ladymisskat said:

Kate Bush probably deserves a mention too

that's what i was thinking, not to piss on anyones parade but she still has a big fanbase. Bananarama not so much

funkmunki said:

ladymisskat said:

Kate Bush probably deserves a mention too

that's what i was thinking, not to piss on anyones parade but she still has a big fanbase. Bananarama not so much

yeah, but its got nothing to do with the OP

banarama have sold considerably more than kate bush. her total sales aren't that high. she is far more influential than succesful in terms of sales or finances

it also just goes to show the shite taste people have if bananarama can sell about six times as many records as kate bush

unique said:

funkmunki said:

that's what i was thinking, not to piss on anyones parade but she still has a big fanbase. Bananarama not so much

yeah, but its got nothing to do with the OP

banarama have sold considerably more than kate bush. her total sales aren't that high. she is far more influential than succesful in terms of sales or finances

it also just goes to show the shite taste people have if bananarama can sell about six times as many records as kate bush

so true mate...lol

Here are Kate Bush's UK sales only:

Whole Story 1.2M
Hounds of Love 1M
Kick Inside 900k
Sensual World 500k
Lionheart 400k
Never for Ever 350k
Red Shoes 400k
Aerial 350k
Dreaming 350k

unique said:

funkmunki said:

that's what i was thinking, not to piss on anyones parade but she still has a big fanbase. Bananarama not so much

yeah, but its got nothing to do with the OP

banarama have sold considerably more than kate bush. her total sales aren't that high. she is far more influential than succesful in terms of sales or finances

it also just goes to show the shite taste people have if bananarama can sell about six times as many records as kate bush

I agree 100% that Bananarama should NEVER be in the same sentence as Kate Bush.

But Bananarama was not total shit all the time. Cruel Summer is still a classic to my ears.

TonyVanDam said:

unique said:

yeah, but its got nothing to do with the OP

banarama have sold considerably more than kate bush. her total sales aren't that high. she is far more influential than succesful in terms of sales or finances

it also just goes to show the shite taste people have if bananarama can sell about six times as many records as kate bush

I agree 100% that Bananarama should NEVER be in the same sentence as Kate Bush.

But Bananarama was not total shit all the time. Cruel Summer is still a classic to my ears.

did you know they turned down malcolm mclarens offer to manage them at the start? he wanted them to make raunchy and controversial music

unique said:

TonyVanDam said:

I agree 100% that Bananarama should NEVER be in the same sentence as Kate Bush.

But Bananarama was not total shit all the time. Cruel Summer is still a classic to my ears.

did you know they turned down malcolm mclarens offer to manage them at the start? he wanted them to make raunchy and controversial music

Say what?

TonyVanDam said:

unique said:

did you know they turned down malcolm mclarens offer to manage them at the start? he wanted them to make raunchy and controversial music

Say what?

http://www.girl.com.au/bananarama-move-in-my-direction.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/aug/15/dolly-rockers-bananarama-meeting

unique said:

funkmunki said:

that's what i was thinking, not to piss on anyones parade but she still has a big fanbase. Bananarama not so much

yeah, but its got nothing to do with the OP

banarama have sold considerably more than kate bush. her total sales aren't that high. she is far more influential than succesful in terms of sales or finances

it also just goes to show the shite taste people have if bananarama can sell about six times as many records as kate bush

ugh yuk , yes.

Now when it comes to record sales we all know that they have dropped considerably over the years so should total sales be a recognition of success?

I remember reading that Blue (or Westlife or some such shit) obtained the same number of No1s as Cliff Richard a few years ago. Cliff responsed by saying something along the lines of "...but back then you needed a million sales to get to No1, now it's what, fifty thousand?".

On a side note I would have loved to have fucked Bananarama but Annie makes me feel a tad queasy.

funkmunki said:

unique said:

yeah, but its got nothing to do with the OP

banarama have sold considerably more than kate bush. her total sales aren't that high. she is far more influential than succesful in terms of sales or finances

it also just goes to show the shite taste people have if bananarama can sell about six times as many records as kate bush

so true mate...lol

More people eat in McDonalds than in any other food outlet (I can't bring myself to call McDonalds a restaurant). Same shit taste?

More people buy cheap mass-produced poultry then spend that bit extra and get something local and free-range (same goes for their choice of veg). Same shit taste?

XFactor... I'll stop there as we all know how bad that is.

iloveannie said:

Now when it comes to record sales we all know that they have dropped considerably over the years so should total sales be a recognition of success?

I remember reading that Blue (or Westlife or some such shit) obtained the same number of No1s as Cliff Richard a few years ago. Cliff responsed by saying something along the lines of "...but back then you needed a million sales to get to No1, now it's what, fifty thousand?".

On a side note I would have loved to have fucked Bananarama but Annie makes me feel a tad queasy.

so how would you define success in terms of this thread?

someone who makes good music but hasn't sold much, as if you sell a lot of records your music must be shite?

one thing to consider is that the shite artists don't usually last long. and with westlife and the other irish band apart from u2, you could mix up the members and no cunt would be able to tell the difference. you could even swap songs between them and no-one would know

iloveannie said:

More people eat in McDonalds than in any other food outlet (I can't bring myself to call McDonalds a restaurant). Same shit taste?

More people buy cheap mass-produced poultry then spend that bit extra and get something local and free-range (same goes for their choice of veg). Same shit taste?

XFactor... I'll stop there as we all know how bad that is.

But McDonald's is cheap, which is good for people that don't have much money. Not everyone can afford organic natural food, which tends to be more expensive. A Bananarama album costs the same as any other album, so people buying cheap food is not exactly the same thing. Also, people who talk about people's "taste" are snobs. It's not that serious.

unique said:

no

she's not a UK artist as she was born in nigeria

annie lennox is. she's sold more records than sade anyway, if you include the eurythmics albums

Doesn't citizenship, upringing and residence matter more than birth-place?

I mean, I don't care who is the UK's most successful female artist no matter who it is, but what an awfully "nativist" position. Someone born outside of the UK can never count as a UK artist by your standard? Sade -- British mother, British citizen, raised mostly in the UK, has resided, for the most part, in the UK.

coltrane3 said:

unique said:

no

she's not a UK artist as she was born in nigeria

annie lennox is. she's sold more records than sade anyway, if you include the eurythmics albums

Doesn't citizenship, upringing and residence matter more than birth-place?

I mean, I don't care who is the UK's most successful female artist no matter who it is, but what an awfully "nativist" position. Someone born outside of the UK can never count as a UK artist by your standard? Sade -- British mother, British citizen, raised mostly in the UK, has resided, for the most part, in the UK.

what the fuck does it matter when annie lennox sold more? that's the main point. don't you get that?

it doesn't matter if sade was the most fucking cockney fucker in cockneyland, she still wouldn't be the most succesful UK female as she hasn't sold half as many records as some people think

MickyDolenz said:

iloveannie said:

More people eat in McDonalds than in any other food outlet (I can't bring myself to call McDonalds a restaurant). Same shit taste?

More people buy cheap mass-produced poultry then spend that bit extra and get something local and free-range (same goes for their choice of veg). Same shit taste?

XFactor... I'll stop there as we all know how bad that is.

But McDonald's is cheap, which is good for people that don't have much money. Not everyone can afford organic natural food, which tends to be more expensive. A Bananarama album costs the same as any other album, so people buying cheap food is not exactly the same thing. Also, people who talk about people's "taste" are snobs. It's not that serious.

I did think of that argument when I wrote my post. However perhaps a little less quantity and a little more quality is what's sometimes needed? Without wanting to lose the thread you only need to look at the US and, increasingly but in no way near the same league, Britain at all the fat fuckers to thing that perhaps McDonalds was maybe part of the worst thing to happen to Western Society.

And regarding Annie Lenox, then yes I'd agree she is the most successfull, British, female, solo artist. On record sales alone without mentioning public awareness.

And talking about taste does not make someone a snob. Thinking your taste is superior to another's is. Then again that person may be right. As they say, you can't educate pork.