Also, would you say her place in music history is assured?

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no

she's not a UK artist as she was born in nigeria

annie lennox is. she's sold more records than sade anyway, if you include the eurythmics albums

Well, she born in Nigeria, but raised in the UK, so I consider her UK. I have never heard of anyone referring to her as a Nigerian artist.

Technically, Sade is a band.

true and thanks for those pics!

No, that would be Kylie Minogue (despite being born in Australia).

If you're not truncating your time frame...

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...Dusty Springfield would warrant consideration as a true Brit.



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well if you consider non uk artists like sade and kylie to be uk artists, and/or you consider sade a band or solo artist, car, mobile phone or gummi bear, it still has no affect on the answer i gave earlier, which is that annie lennox is the UK's most successful female artist

that is at least if you are talking in terms of selling the most amount of records, as annie lennox has done. you may well have another measure of success. if you could detail in writing the requirements to qualify for the answer of your question, i could perhaps in turn provide an answer

but in simple terms, annie lennox sold more than sade and kylie, and she is from the UK. scotland to be precise. and i once got chatted up by her neice, who was fucking gorgeous

Sade is a band yes.

They sold over 50 million records worldwide

Annie (including Eurythmics sales) sold 80 million records worldwide

Kylie is from Australia so she doesn't count but she sold over 70 million records worldwide.

MickyDolenz said:

Technically, Sade is a band.

True, they are a band, and many of us forget that, sometimes. I don't know if they're still touring, but they were in Charlotte, NC in July.

unique said:

well if you consider non uk artists like sade

Not gonna get into anything else other than to point out that three of the four members of Sade were born in the UK. Would you still not consider them a UK band?

FYI: Hello Magazine says it's Susan Boyle.

Well, if they don't have to be born here, isn't the answer Madonna??

sosgemini said:

unique said:

well if you consider non uk artists like sade

Not gonna get into anything else other than to point out that three of the four members of Sade were born in the UK. Would you still not consider them a UK band?

i'd consider sade a UK band

but to answer the OP's question "Is Sade the UK's most successful female artist?" the answer is no

even if you considered sade a female UK artist the answer is still no

wasn't that clear from any previous posts? neither the band or the individual known as sade have sold as many records as annie lennox who is from the UK?

does that not answer the OP?

Dusty is.

Timmy84 said:

Dusty is.

she hasn't sold as many as annie lennox, and success isn't really the best way to describe dusty if you know anything about her history. she had initial success and then almost dissapeared, and unfortunately died just after the PSB's comeback material

unique said:

Timmy84 said:

Dusty is.

she hasn't sold as many as annie lennox, and success isn't really the best way to describe dusty if you know anything about her history. she had initial success and then almost dissapeared, and unfortunately died just after the PSB's comeback material

I see. I guess since it was a different era - and that's probably not a good excuse - I can see how Annie would be way more successful.

Timmy84 said:

unique said:

she hasn't sold as many as annie lennox, and success isn't really the best way to describe dusty if you know anything about her history. she had initial success and then almost dissapeared, and unfortunately died just after the PSB's comeback material

I see. I guess since it was a different era - and that's probably not a good excuse - I can see how Annie would be way more successful.

that's got a lot to do with it. annies success started in the 80s when record sales were at a high, and her peak continued into the 90s with her solo stuff, so most of her prime time was when sales were good. back in the 60s when dusty was popular, singles could sell much larger amounts than today, but the music buying public was a lot smaller

i'm not a fan of either artist, but the eurythmics stuff was pretty good and some of annies solo stuff wasn't bad. some of dustys stuff was pretty good too, but after the 60s she was very much forgotten about until the pet shop boys pulled her back into the limelight, a bit like the smiths and sandy shaw

unique said:

sosgemini said:

Not gonna get into anything else other than to point out that three of the four members of Sade were born in the UK. Would you still not consider them a UK band?

i'd consider sade a UK band

but to answer the OP's question "Is Sade the UK's most successful female artist?" the answer is no

even if you considered sade a female UK artist the answer is still no

wasn't that clear from any previous posts? neither the band or the individual known as sade have sold as many records as annie lennox who is from the UK?

does that not answer the OP?

It does---I wasn't asking about that stuff though.

Kate Bush probably deserves a mention too

theAudience said:

If you're not truncating your time frame...

[img:$uid]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b59/jbodine/Music%20II/Female/dustyspringfieldbornthiswaylyrics.jpg[/img:$uid]

...Dusty Springfield would warrant consideration as a true Brit.



Music for adventurous listeners

tA

Tribal Records

If we're talking true brits that were born in the UK, then it is Dusty & Kate.

If girl bands are welcome in this discussion, then Bananarama & The Spice Girls are definitely UK's most successful female artists that are true brits.

TonyVanDam said:

theAudience said:

If you're not truncating your time frame...



...Dusty Springfield would warrant consideration as a true Brit.



Music for adventurous listeners

tA

Tribal Records

If we're talking true brits that were born in the UK, then it is Dusty & Kate.

no it's not, it's annie lennox. just lookup how many each have sold. it even says on annie lennox wiki that she's the most successful uk female artist, which is a slight clue

kate similarly to dusty, had a succesful period in the 80s but pretty much retired from music to raise her kid. she also didn't pander to the pop charts, whilst the eurythmics and annies solo stuff was pretty commercial

TonyVanDam said:

If girl bands are welcome in this discussion, then Bananarama & The Spice Girls are definitely UK's most successful female artists that are true brits.

nope, still annie lennox. that's why i said annie lennox in the first place. don't people bother checking info before posting when someone is asking for a fact?

annie has sold nearly twice as many records as bananarama, and she's sold a few million more than the spice girls. annie sold over 80 million and the spice girls 75 million

financially, she's also the UK's richest female recording artist

http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/digital-britain/510-musicians-coining-it-in-sunday-times-rich-list

so whether you measure her success by sales or financially, which are two of the most recognised forms of measuring success, annie lennox is the uk's most successful female artist

and if you wanted to include people who are UK based but not from the UK, kylie is more succesful financially than annie lennox, but she's australian, and she's sold less records than annie lennox

or we could include madonna who's not UK born but lives there at least at times. or if it doesn't really have to be a female, it could be elvis. he's neither a woman or born in the UK, but he sold more records than all of them

so elvis is the winner

unique said:

TonyVanDam said:

If girl bands are welcome in this discussion, then Bananarama & The Spice Girls are definitely UK's most successful female artists that are true brits.

nope, still annie lennox. that's why i said annie lennox in the first place. don't people bother checking info before posting when someone is asking for a fact?

annie has sold nearly twice as many records as bananarama, and she's sold a few million more than the spice girls. annie sold over 80 million and the spice girls 75 million

financially, she's also the UK's richest female recording artist

http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/digital-britain/510-musicians-coining-it-in-sunday-times-rich-list

so whether you measure her success by sales or financially, which are two of the most recognised forms of measuring success, annie lennox is the uk's most successful female artist

and if you wanted to include people who are UK based but not from the UK, kylie is more succesful financially than annie lennox, but she's australian, and she's sold less records than annie lennox

or we could include madonna who's not UK born but lives there at least at times. or if it doesn't really have to be a female, it could be elvis. he's neither a woman or born in the UK, but he sold more records than all of them

so elvis is the winner

Despite my age (37), I would have definitely gotten this trivial question wrong very easily. If it's about true brits, I still would have said Bananarama or The Spice Girls right off the bat without even considering Annie Lennox.

KEY WORDS: most. successful. female. artist. uk.

TonyVanDam said:

unique said:

nope, still annie lennox. that's why i said annie lennox in the first place. don't people bother checking info before posting when someone is asking for a fact?

annie has sold nearly twice as many records as bananarama, and she's sold a few million more than the spice girls. annie sold over 80 million and the spice girls 75 million

financially, she's also the UK's richest female recording artist

http://www.iptegrity.com/index.php/digital-britain/510-musicians-coining-it-in-sunday-times-rich-list

so whether you measure her success by sales or financially, which are two of the most recognised forms of measuring success, annie lennox is the uk's most successful female artist

and if you wanted to include people who are UK based but not from the UK, kylie is more succesful financially than annie lennox, but she's australian, and she's sold less records than annie lennox

or we could include madonna who's not UK born but lives there at least at times. or if it doesn't really have to be a female, it could be elvis. he's neither a woman or born in the UK, but he sold more records than all of them

so elvis is the winner

Despite my age (37), I would have definitely gotten this trivial question wrong very easily. If it's about true brits, I still would have said Bananarama or The Spice Girls right off the bat without even considering Annie Lennox.

KEY WORDS: most. successful. female. artist. uk.

so with those key words you would still have choosen a band instead of a femal artist?

unique said:

TonyVanDam said:

Despite my age (37), I would have definitely gotten this trivial question wrong very easily. If it's about true brits, I still would have said Bananarama or The Spice Girls right off the bat without even considering Annie Lennox.

KEY WORDS: most. successful. female. artist. uk.

so with those key words you would still have choosen a band instead of a femal artist?

They're females!

TonyVanDam said:

unique said:

so with those key words you would still have choosen a band instead of a femal artist?

They're females!

yes. plural, not singular

and yet not as successful