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Thread started 12/17/11 7:02pm

musicjunky318

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Is Taylor Swift Really A Country Artist?

I've listened to all three of her albums and it's nothing but pop to me. People say she's crossing over when she scores all these hits on Top 40 but is she really? Stuff like "Love Story" "You Belong With Me" and "Fifteen" is considered country-pop? Carrie Underwood (my favorite) and LeAnn Rimes are country-pop to me. 50/50, sometimes 60/40 one way or the other.


Swift is country maybe 20% of the time, if that. It's like she's putting on a front just to sell records.'

Just my two cents.

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Reply #1 posted 12/17/11 7:04pm

lazycrockett

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Today's country is pop.

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Reply #2 posted 12/17/11 7:07pm

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If you don't like Taylor Swift, then you have no one to blame but Garth Brooks AND Shania Twain.

And yes, Taylor Swift is country-pop. I can NEVER consider just a contemporary country anymore.

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Reply #3 posted 12/17/11 7:13pm

Timmy84

She's cookie cutter pop.

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Reply #4 posted 12/17/11 7:15pm

lazycrockett

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The only thing bout her thats country is her gait. biggrin

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Reply #5 posted 12/17/11 7:18pm

unique

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what difference does it make? you either enjoy the music or you don't. you don't enjoy anything better if you can pidgeon hole it

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Reply #6 posted 12/17/11 7:22pm

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Taylor Swift yawn
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Reply #7 posted 12/17/11 7:36pm

spacedolphin

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Here she is classified as Hick Pop

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Reply #8 posted 12/17/11 7:43pm

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The REAL question should be, "Is Taylor Swift REALLY an ARTIST? neutral

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Reply #9 posted 12/17/11 7:56pm

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Taylor Swift is the girl that writes your sad teenage life stories about a boy who you either: a) like but he doesnt notice you b) hate because he dumped you for another girl and c) moaning about boys in general.

She's good at what she does (for her target audience anyways) but I just can't see her having a serious and long lasting career in the industry.

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Reply #10 posted 12/17/11 8:14pm

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Asymphony5 said:

Taylor Swift is the girl that writes your sad teenage life stories about a boy who you either: a) like but he doesnt notice you b) hate because he dumped you for another girl and c) moaning about boys in general.

She's good at what she does (for her target audience anyways) but I just can't see her having a serious and long lasting career in the industry.

That's the thing, there is no such thing as, "The Industry" anymore, so she fits right in...

"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #11 posted 12/17/11 8:18pm

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Country music wont even play "country" anymore. They avoid it like the plague. Dolly Parton released a proper country album last year and the radio statioins wouldn't even touch it.

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Reply #12 posted 12/17/11 8:27pm

Timmy84

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Country music wont even play "country" anymore. They avoid it like the plague. Dolly Parton released a proper country album last year and the radio statioins wouldn't even touch it.

I remember when they wouldn't give Johnny Cash the time of day... yet he was STILL selling albums. These hating ass bitches had the nerve to say he didn't appeal to the "market". Country is turning into what pop/rock turned to decades ago: they wanna cater to the kiddies.

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Reply #13 posted 12/17/11 8:29pm

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Yep.

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Reply #14 posted 12/17/11 8:54pm

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Pop, pop, pop.

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Reply #15 posted 12/17/11 8:58pm

RKJCNE

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Pop star with a banjo and a twang.

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Reply #16 posted 12/17/11 9:01pm

Emancipation89

She can do anything, including rap lol

I've always considered her as "pop" singer. I love Carrie Underwood, but she's also country/pop. In fact, most of young country artists these days do more than just country. Miranda Lambert, my other favorite "country" artist, she has a little bit of rock edge to her records/performances, which I love. So really, I don't have problems with Taylor being invited to CMA and her records being acknowledge in "country" category.

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Reply #17 posted 12/17/11 9:25pm

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shorttrini said:

Asymphony5 said:

Taylor Swift is the girl that writes your sad teenage life stories about a boy who you either: a) like but he doesnt notice you b) hate because he dumped you for another girl and c) moaning about boys in general.

She's good at what she does (for her target audience anyways) but I just can't see her having a serious and long lasting career in the industry.

That's the thing, there is no such thing as, "The Industry" anymore, so she fits right in...

Wrong! As long as there are record label execs & CEOs that continues to have more love for their shockholders than for the real knowledgeable music fans, there will always be a music industry.

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Reply #18 posted 12/17/11 9:28pm

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Timmy84 said:

lazycrockett said:

Country music wont even play "country" anymore. They avoid it like the plague. Dolly Parton released a proper country album last year and the radio statioins wouldn't even touch it.

I remember when they wouldn't give Johnny Cash the time of day... yet he was STILL selling albums. These hating ass bitches had the nerve to say he didn't appeal to the "market". Country is turning into what pop/rock turned to decades ago: they wanna cater to the kiddies.

@Lazy & Timmy.....Please do not make me create another Dolly VS. Taylor thread! no no no! lol

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Reply #19 posted 12/17/11 10:04pm

musicjunky318

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LOL @ Tony. Garth & Shania really did start this shit though. The more you think about it.

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Reply #20 posted 12/17/11 10:34pm

Timmy84

musicjunky318 said:

LOL @ Tony. Garth & Shania really did start this shit though. The more you think about it.

It was a gradual push though so while Garth and Shania furthered pop's influence on country, they sure as hell weren't the first. Least the type of pop-tinged country that was popular pre-Brooks/Twain still had enough grit to still be country.

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Reply #21 posted 12/17/11 10:59pm

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Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

LOL @ Tony. Garth & Shania really did start this shit though. The more you think about it.

It was a gradual push though so while Garth and Shania furthered pop's influence on country, they sure as hell weren't the first. Least the type of pop-tinged country that was popular pre-Brooks/Twain still had enough grit to still be country.

The first maybe not but the first to sell truckloads. They were all over the place in the 90s. It was actually annoying.

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Reply #22 posted 12/17/11 11:00pm

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It all began in the mid 80's when country rejected kd. lang, Dwight Yokum and Lyle Lovett.

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Reply #23 posted 12/17/11 11:01pm

Timmy84

lazycrockett said:

It all began in the mid 80's when country rejected kd. lang, Dwight Yokum and Lyle Lovett.

There you go...

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Reply #24 posted 12/18/11 3:13am

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musicjunky318 said:

LOL @ Tony. Garth & Shania really did start this shit though. The more you think about it.

What about early '80s country music? A lot of it was quite poppy. Think Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton. A song like "9 To 5" is pretty much a straight pop song. Garth and Shania were both much more successful and moved insane numbers of albums but I think they were just building on what came before them.

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Reply #25 posted 12/18/11 3:35am

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POP... she isnt going to last that much longer

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Reply #26 posted 12/18/11 7:27am

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TonyVanDam said:

shorttrini said:

That's the thing, there is no such thing as, "The Industry" anymore, so she fits right in...

Wrong! As long as there are record label execs & CEOs that continues to have more love for their shockholders than for the real knowledgeable music fans, there will always be a music industry.

Yes. But it is not an industry based on music, where the artist and it's listener's comes, first. While it has always been a business, it has become more one-sided as the years go by.

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Reply #27 posted 12/18/11 12:52pm

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shorttrini said:

TonyVanDam said:

Wrong! As long as there are record label execs & CEOs that continues to have more love for their shockholders than for the real knowledgeable music fans, there will always be a music industry.

Yes. But it is not an industry based on music, where the artist and it's listener's comes, first. While it has always been a business, it has become more one-sided as the years go by.

Very true.

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Reply #28 posted 12/18/11 3:42pm

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rialb said:

musicjunky318 said:

LOL @ Tony. Garth & Shania really did start this shit though. The more you think about it.

What about early '80s country music? A lot of it was quite poppy. Think Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton. A song like "9 To 5" is pretty much a straight pop song. Garth and Shania were both much more successful and moved insane numbers of albums but I think they were just building on what came before them.

Then it's Dolly Parton's fault lol

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