Unholyalliance said:

You can start your journey here:

http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17316

http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=63110

Unfortunatelty Nelson and MJDangerous have both been banned from the site. I don't know where they are now though. =( Though those links are mostly album sales. There was another one that went over singles chart history, but don't know where that post is. =/

There's something here, but I don't know how accurate it is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Records_and_achievements_of_Michael_Jackson

Thank you
190 + 340 pages?? Auch!
I need only 10-15 data.

Paddy Power (British betting site) have these odds for which actor will play MJ:

4/1 Johnny Depp
9/2 Zac Efron
6/1 Usher
6/1 Jaden Smith
8/1 Will Smith
8/1 Jamie Foxx
10/1 Andre 3000
12/1 Justin Timberlake
12/1 Randy Jackson
16/1 Crispin Glover
16/1 Chris Brown
20/1 Chris Tucker
20/1 Jared Leto
20/1 Adrian Grenier
25/1 Derek Hough
40/1 Justin Bieber
40/1 Denzel Washington
40/1 Will.I.Am
40/1 Eddie Murphy
50/1 Kenny Wormald
50/1 Pharell Williams
80/1 Kevin Bacon
100/1 Channing Tatum
100/1 Keanu Reeves

http://www.movieline.com/...g-pool.php

[Edited 11/16/11 14:20pm]

mookie said:

Paddy Power (British betting site) have these odds for which actor will play MJ:

4/1 Johnny Depp
9/2 Zac Efron
6/1 Usher
6/1 Jaden Smith
8/1 Will Smith
8/1 Jamie Foxx
10/1 Andre 3000
12/1 Justin Timberlake
12/1 Randy Jackson
16/1 Crispin Glover
16/1 Chris Brown
20/1 Chris Tucker
20/1 Jared Leto
20/1 Adrian Grenier
25/1 Derek Hough
40/1 Justin Bieber
40/1 Denzel Washington
40/1 Will.I.Am
40/1 Eddie Murphy
50/1 Kenny Wormald
50/1 Pharell Williams
80/1 Kevin Bacon
100/1 Channing Tatum
100/1 Keanu Reeves

http://www.movieline.com/...g-pool.php

[Edited 11/16/11 14:20pm]

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How about NONE of them?

Jackson brothers sue over 'Thriller' jacket deal
By Alan Duke, CNN
November 16, 2011 -- Updated 2219 GMT (0619 HKT)

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Three of Michael Jackson's brothers claim in a lawsuit filed this week that they've been "duped" by a company selling replicas of jackets worn by the pop icon.
The endorsement deal was the first involving Michael Jackson's oldest son, Prince, who posed for pictures with his uncles as they autographed the limited-edition jackets.

The "Thriller" and "Beat It" jackets went on sale online last week, but Jackie, Tito and Marlon Jackson filed a lawsuit Tuesday alleging the marketer bounced a check to them for travel expenses.
Steeve Bohbot, owner of Connected Internationals Sales, also failed to pay each of the three brothers the $100,000 each for signing the 1,000 leather jackets, the suit, filed in Los Angeles County Superior Court Tuesday, contends.

"Plaintiffs, tired of chasing Bohbot for the moneys, have no choice but to seek redress from the courts," it said.
The suit alleges that Bohbot told the Jackson's that the delayed payment was caused by a problem with the jackets' delivery to Amazon.com, but it was not true.

The brothers believe the company is insolvent and has not paid other creditors, including Michael Jackson's estate, which authorized the sale, the suit said.
Bohbot did not respond to CNN calls for comment.

The Jackson brothers, who recently reunited onstage for a series of concerts, gathered at West Hollywood's Bar Marmont on October 29 to sign the jackets. Prince Jackson, who has previously stayed away from commercial endorsements, joined them at the event, but he did not autograph the jackets.

Prince Jackson is not involved in the lawsuit since he was not part of the marketing agreement. It was not disclosed how much he was to be paid to attend and pose with the jackets.

Connected International Sales "duped plaintiffs into a scheme to sign 1,000 collectors' jackets," the suit said.

Michael Jackson debuted the red "Beat It" and red and black "Thriller" jackets, designed by Marc Laurent, in 1983. The Jackson brothers signed 500 of each jacket, which are still on sale for $2,350.

http://edition.cnn.com/20...index.html

Some parts of the book of frack cascio:

"Sometimes Michael invited members of his fan clubs to Neverland, and he occasionally formed a special relationship with one of the women. One time I was driving Michael into town. Someone was next to me in the passenger seat of the Bentley, and Michael was in the backseat, kissing one of his fans.

"Easy back there," I said. "Relax, calm down."

"Just keep driving," Michael said in a joking way. "Don't worry about it, just keep driving."

Michael's dalliances with fans were infrequent and discreet, but they were hardly unheard of. He tended to like tall, slender women whom I'd describe as nerdy in a sexy way. Once, in Lodon, I was in his suite when he brought a friend he'd known for years into his bedroom. They were in there for about an hour, and when he emerged, his pants were unbuttoned. I smirked at him.

"Shut up, Frank," he said, smiling sheepishly. The woman, equally sheepish, said goodbye and left.

Around this time, Michael had another friend - I'll call her Emily - who visited the ranch regularly. She was a nice, cute girl, slender, with brown hair, in her early to midthirties. Emily didn't want or need anything from Michael. They just liked spending time together - talking, walking around, hanging out in his bedroom. It was a romantic relationship, but as far as I know, he didn't tell anyone about Emily but me. Michael kept her a secret - she didn't stay in his room because he didn't want her to be seen coming out in the morning - and even I didn't see real evidence of the romance. That's how I knew he was telling the truth. He wouldn't have been so secretive if he hadn't had something to hide. That was the longest relationship I saw Michael have: Emily was at the ranch frequently over the course of about a year.

The question as to whether Michael was intimate with Debbie Rowe came up often. People seemed to think that they could make sense of Michael if they could only unravel the mystery of his relationships with women, but Michael was his own man. There were no simple answers. I know he was sexually intimate with Lisa Marie when they were together - he told me so. With Emily, to be honest, I'm not sure, but I know in her he found a companion, a friend."

a new cirque video, it shows some accepella michael, and its just BEAUTIFUL.

enjoy!

The jacksons do not get bored using to prince and paris .. look at this.

Regardless, I like what prince says of his father

claudiax said:

The jacksons do not get bored using to prince and paris .. look at this.

Regardless, I like what prince says of his father

kibbles said:

claudiax said:

The jacksons do not get bored using to prince and paris .. look at this.

Regardless, I like what prince says of his father

i didn't look at this b/c i'm disgusted by the use of these kids in the family's "business" exploits. i'm surprised to learn that the estate signed off on that jacket deal, if in fact it's true that they did. they certainly acted outraged when joe was having the kids sign belts to sell them off. i wouldn't be surprised if the brothers are just saying the estate signed off on the deal, when in fact they mean their mother who is a beneficiary of the estate. i would think that the branca and mcclain would have performed their due diligence before getting in business with this company. however, it would be like the jacksons to be involved in a shady outfit like this. frank cascio may mean well, i don't think writing about mj's sex life is going to convince people of anything one way or another. the people who believe him to be gay pedophile are not going to be convinced by his anecdotes. he would have been better off keeping his mouth shut.

The estate probably did. Jackie is a consultant with the estate and J5 Collection is his line so they probably agreed to

a quick thought, so i began thinking... do you think its possible that michael was writting another autobiography?

with moonwalk being released in 88, there is ALOT of things that happened since then, so i began thinking maybe while michael was "away from the stage" maybe he was working on something like this..

NOTE: there is NO info to support this, i just began thinking about "what if"

thoughts?

If Michael Jackson gets a planned biopic, who should play the King of Pop?

Now that the trial of Dr. Conrad Murray has reached its conclusion (he’ll be sentenced on November 29), the estate of Michael Jackson can get back to the business of flooding the market with product to keep the late King of Pop in the collective consciousness forever. The Cirque du Soleil show based on his music is currently on the road, and there are supposedly many more posthumous releases coming from Michael’s vaults.

According to Variety, the next logical piece of the puzzle has started to fall into place; MJ estate executor John Branca has started having conversations with Hollywood types about the prospect of producing a biopic based on Jackson’s life. The project is only at the “discussions” stage at the moment, so it could be years before there is a finished film (or any movement forward at all, really).

The idea of a Michael Jackson biopic raises two immediate questions. The first is: Who will play Michael? And secondly: What stages of Jackson’s life will get covered?

Let’s tackle the last question first. Michael was famous by age six, which means that he lived most of his life in the public eye and thus doesn’t have a whole lot of stories that were left untold. The Jackson 5 era was covered pretty well by the award-winning 1992 mini-series The Jacksons: An American Dream, so a new film would feel like a bit of a rehash.

Most likely, the most fascinating material would come from the stuff that is least likely to depicted on screen, like his child-abuse scandal and late-period money troubles. If they really just want to focus on his career peak, a film about the construction of Thriller would probably be the most entertaining, as it would be the story of Jackson’s ability to distill a diverse number of ’70s sounds into a whole new form that defined the 1980s.

(The alternate-universe version of that film would encircle HIStory, which would tell the tale of a massive superstar stumbling for the first time after a decade-plus run at the pinnacle of pop music.)

As for the actor who should play Jackson, it seems like the only reasonable choice would be to find a newcomer to slip into MJ’s bedazzled gloves. The role is going to carry so much weight that it will be tough for any established actor to come to it baggage-free. Plus, that actor can’t fake it. So you have to have somebody who is willing to shoulder the burden of the character while also being able to sing and dance in a convincing way. Outside of the many impersonators out there, the only person who could possibly pull that off right now is Donald Glover.But what do you think?

Any nominations for who should play Jackson or which one of his career arcs would make for the best film? Don’t keep it in the closet – leave it in the comments!

http://music-mix.ew.com/2011/11/16/michael-jackson-biopic/

I didn't like any of the movies at all. The American Dream made Joe look like a psychopath (though I love Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs), and the other one with Flex Alexander, Man In The Mirror or whatever, LMAO. I never laughed so hard in my life. If they do go ahead with another film please get anybody BUT Flex.

Snippet of Pharrell interview mentioning the records intended for Michael...

ViintageJunkiie said:

Snippet of Pharrell interview mentioning the records intended for Michael...

The"Rump Shaker" producer opened up on trying to convince Michael Jackson's manager to use a selection of beats tailored specifically for the "King of Pop." According to Williams, the late singer preferred a sound similar to the producer's 1998 hit Noreaga song, "Superthug."

"I have been telling him, 'Yo, I got these Michael records [that I did for Michael].' And I'll never forget Michael's manager saying, 'Yo, Michael wants some "Superthug!"' And I was like, 'What?'" the producer-singer recalled. "I remember being so baffled and so crushed, 'cause he still is my idol."

When the initial tracks produced for Jackson were scrapped, Williams sought out Justin Timberlake, who was working with the Neptunes on his debut album, Justified. The songs went on to commercial success, not to mention eliciting a phone call from Jackson.

"Funny story is, when we were working on it, Michael called ... he just called me and he was eating popcorn in my ear [over the phone] and he was like, 'Oh, so you're working with Justin, how's it going?' I remember just thinking to myself, 'Man, I wish Michael could hear these songs,'" he said.

"And later on, after those songs came out and they were really huge thanks to Justin's talent and what he had to offer, I'll never forget the day that me and Michael met up. And he sang me those songs, sounding like Justin. And he said, 'You should've gave those songs to me.'"

WELL!

can anyone reupload a picture from a recent photo book of mike. You see mike on an air bed in a pool with the fedora and i think there was a bodyguard with an umbrella

motownlover said:

can anyone reupload a picture from a recent photo book of mike. You see mike on an air bed in a pool with the fedora and i think there was a bodyguard with an umbrella

perhaps its a lake instead of a pool. Its from a photo book with roughtly 200+ never before seen pics i believe. cant make up the title right now, hope this discription is enough

claudiax said:

The jacksons do not get bored using to prince and paris .. look at this.

Regardless, I like what prince says of his father

They¨re sweet. BTW what does Paris say when they start laughing?

And when Prince says: "There's nothing I can do to make us forget about him?" What does he mean? Does he mean that he will never do anything that his father did not raise him to do?

[Edited 11/17/11 11:46am]

claudiax said:

Some parts of the book of frack cascio:

"Sometimes Michael invited members of his fan clubs to Neverland, and he occasionally formed a special relationship with one of the women. One time I was driving Michael into town. Someone was next to me in the passenger seat of the Bentley, and Michael was in the backseat, kissing one of his fans.

"Easy back there," I said. "Relax, calm down."

"Just keep driving," Michael said in a joking way. "Don't worry about it, just keep driving."

Michael's dalliances with fans were infrequent and discreet, but they were hardly unheard of. He tended to like tall, slender women whom I'd describe as nerdy in a sexy way. Once, in Lodon, I was in his suite when he brought a friend he'd known for years into his bedroom. They were in there for about an hour, and when he emerged, his pants were unbuttoned. I smirked at him.

"Shut up, Frank," he said, smiling sheepishly. The woman, equally sheepish, said goodbye and left.

Around this time, Michael had another friend - I'll call her Emily - who visited the ranch regularly. She was a nice, cute girl, slender, with brown hair, in her early to midthirties. Emily didn't want or need anything from Michael. They just liked spending time together - talking, walking around, hanging out in his bedroom. It was a romantic relationship, but as far as I know, he didn't tell anyone about Emily but me. Michael kept her a secret - she didn't stay in his room because he didn't want her to be seen coming out in the morning - and even I didn't see real evidence of the romance. That's how I knew he was telling the truth. He wouldn't have been so secretive if he hadn't had something to hide. That was the longest relationship I saw Michael have: Emily was at the ranch frequently over the course of about a year.

The question as to whether Michael was intimate with Debbie Rowe came up often. People seemed to think that they could make sense of Michael if they could only unravel the mystery of his relationships with women, but Michael was his own man. There were no simple answers. I know he was sexually intimate with Lisa Marie when they were together - he told me so. With Emily, to be honest, I'm not sure, but I know in her he found a companion, a friend."

Jealous.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Snippet of Pharrell interview mentioning the records intended for Michael...

The"Rump Shaker" producer opened up on trying to convince Michael Jackson's manager to use a selection of beats tailored specifically for the "King of Pop." According to Williams, the late singer preferred a sound similar to the producer's 1998 hit Noreaga song, "Superthug."

"I have been telling him, 'Yo, I got these Michael records [that I did for Michael].' And I'll never forget Michael's manager saying, 'Yo, Michael wants some "Superthug!"' And I was like, 'What?'" the producer-singer recalled. "I remember being so baffled and so crushed, 'cause he still is my idol."

When the initial tracks produced for Jackson were scrapped, Williams sought out Justin Timberlake, who was working with the Neptunes on his debut album, Justified. The songs went on to commercial success, not to mention eliciting a phone call from Jackson.

"Funny story is, when we were working on it, Michael called ... he just called me and he was eating popcorn in my ear [over the phone] and he was like, 'Oh, so you're working with Justin, how's it going?' I remember just thinking to myself, 'Man, I wish Michael could hear these songs,'" he said.

"And later on, after those songs came out and they were really huge thanks to Justin's talent and what he had to offer, I'll never forget the day that me and Michael met up. And he sang me those songs, sounding like Justin. And he said, 'You should've gave those songs to me.'"

Michael didn't even hear them His manager messed that up

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Snippet of Pharrell interview mentioning the records intended for Michael...

Michael didn't even hear them His manager messed that up

MAN! His manager cock blocked did him dirty for that one...

Last Night from the Justified album is so under rated. Would've loved to hear MJ do that.

Bboy87, thanks for the info you posted on page 12.

I knew some of it already but you always manage to dig up some new stuff. Cheers fella!

claudiax said:

His disease was very strong

It's a shame that he never had the courage to allow the general public to see him like this, it may have shut a lot of them up.

Then again, maybe not. His eldest son also has vitiligo and yet there are still those who claim that he's not Mike's child.

Cloudbuster said:

claudiax said:

His disease was very strong

It's a shame that he never had the courage to allow the general public to see him like this, it may have shut a lot of them up.

Then again, maybe not. His eldest son also has vitiligo and yet there are still those who claim that he's not Mike's child.

People wouldn't have been convinced if Michael had told people back in 1986 when he was first confirmed that he had it and that it was something he started having around 1974-ish (he reportedly started having blotches starting around 16, 17 years old). And Prince reportedly has it too so who knows how long Michael actually had it. He might've had had it when he was still real young but was afraid to have a diagnosis until the blotches started to become more obvious.

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

Michael didn't even hear them His manager messed that up

MAN! His manager cock blocked did him dirty for that one...

Who WAS his manager then? I forget. I wanted to say Sandy Gallin but I'm not sure. It's been a while lol

Cloudbuster said:

claudiax said:

His disease was very strong

It's a shame that he never had the courage to allow the general public to see him like this, it may have shut a lot of them up.

Then again, maybe not. His eldest son also has vitiligo and yet there are still those who claim that he's not Mike's child.

Courage? How annoying. People were talking because they are mindless pawns of the media who gave them something to talk about instead of explaining the situation as it was explained to them.

You can see the vitiligo splotches in They Don't Care About Us video. Just like you could hear him speaking in a deeper voice at the Super Bowl in 1993 and other places. Yet people believe what they want because it's less frightening to think MJ was a freak than to acknowledge that the media just tells us boldfaced lies about any and everything to suit various agendas.

MJ wasn't hiding anything. People were just being led by the media and not looking or thinking for themselves. Now all of a sudden he should have just gone outside with no makeup to appease the curiosity of the fickle masses. The reason so many people didn't know about vitiligo is most people who have it - especially on their faces - wear makeup to cover it. That's regular people not people who get photographed just for stepping foot outside their homes. So why should a world famous star have gone outside with disfiguring splotches just because some idiots don't believe he had vitiligo? The joke is on their dumbasses now, but they are too dumb to understand an autopsy report and don't even know it to this day.

[Edited 11/17/11 14:41pm]

claudiax said:

Some parts of the book of frack cascio:

"Sometimes Michael invited members of his fan clubs to Neverland, and he occasionally formed a special relationship with one of the women. One time I was driving Michael into town. Someone was next to me in the passenger seat of the Bentley, and Michael was in the backseat, kissing one of his fans.

"Easy back there," I said. "Relax, calm down."

"Just keep driving," Michael said in a joking way. "Don't worry about it, just keep driving."

Michael's dalliances with fans were infrequent and discreet, but they were hardly unheard of. He tended to like tall, slender women whom I'd describe as nerdy in a sexy way. Once, in Lodon, I was in his suite when he brought a friend he'd known for years into his bedroom. They were in there for about an hour, and when he emerged, his pants were unbuttoned. I smirked at him.

"Shut up, Frank," he said, smiling sheepishly. The woman, equally sheepish, said goodbye and left.

Around this time, Michael had another friend - I'll call her Emily - who visited the ranch regularly. She was a nice, cute girl, slender, with brown hair, in her early to midthirties. Emily didn't want or need anything from Michael. They just liked spending time together - talking, walking around, hanging out in his bedroom. It was a romantic relationship, but as far as I know, he didn't tell anyone about Emily but me. Michael kept her a secret - she didn't stay in his room because he didn't want her to be seen coming out in the morning - and even I didn't see real evidence of the romance. That's how I knew he was telling the truth. He wouldn't have been so secretive if he hadn't had something to hide. That was the longest relationship I saw Michael have: Emily was at the ranch frequently over the course of about a year.

The question as to whether Michael was intimate with Debbie Rowe came up often. People seemed to think that they could make sense of Michael if they could only unravel the mystery of his relationships with women, but Michael was his own man. There were no simple answers. I know he was sexually intimate with Lisa Marie when they were together - he told me so. With Emily, to be honest, I'm not sure, but I know in her he found a companion, a friend."

Yeah, SHUT UP Frank. One of MJ's biggest problems was too many of his "fans" are also tabloid junkies who are so obsessed that they watch, read, listen to anything anyone has to say about him and really have defective bullshit meters.

I wonder how the process of vitiligo starts. Does it start developing around your face or arms or back or chest or legs? I've never been clear on how vitiligo starts. Michael's grandfather had vitiligo too.

[Edited 11/17/11 14:37pm]

Timmy84 said:

People wouldn't have been convinced if Michael had told people back in 1986 when he was first confirmed that he had it and that it was something he started having around 1974-ish (he reportedly started having blotches starting around 16, 17 years old). And Prince reportedly has it too so who knows how long Michael actually had it. He might've had had it when he was still real young but was afraid to have a diagnosis until the blotches started to become more obvious.

That's probably true, he had The Beatles catalogue by that point. Some folk just loved to hate him I guess.

Like those weirdos that wanted him to be found guilty of child molestation no matter the truth.

Cloudbuster said:

Timmy84 said:

People wouldn't have been convinced if Michael had told people back in 1986 when he was first confirmed that he had it and that it was something he started having around 1974-ish (he reportedly started having blotches starting around 16, 17 years old). And Prince reportedly has it too so who knows how long Michael actually had it. He might've had had it when he was still real young but was afraid to have a diagnosis until the blotches started to become more obvious.

That's probably true, he had The Beatles catalogue by that point. Some folk just loved to hate him I guess.

Like those weirdos that wanted him to be found guilty of child molestation no matter the truth.

Yeah even if he had done an interview to talk about vitiligo, it would've added further about Michael being "bonkers".