Yes, Usher can definitely sing. He's no Luther (Then again who is?), but he can sing and is by far a much stronger singer than say Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake,etc.

musicjunky318 said:

babybugz said:

Usher basically gave birth to them lol. I listen to all three (not Chris anymore) I always felt Ne-Yo had the better songs out of Trey and Chris.

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Chris is the best dancer (even better than Usher at his peak) and Ne-Yo is the top songwriter. I don't know who's the greater singer out of the three. I honestly don't. They're all subpar to me but I guess it would be between Chris & Ne-Yo. Goat No Songz does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for me in no arena. The nerve to come at R. Kelly.

LOL Trey debut and second album were decent his new stuff is a hit and miss and too extra at times.

Cain't Neva gon sang....all of these young guys mentioned on this thread really, really, REALLY come up short as true singers....

Cinnamon234 said:

Yes, Usher can definitely sing. He's no Luther (Then again who is?), but he can sing and is by far a much stronger singer than say Chris Brown, Justin Timberlake,etc.

Usher can sing better than Chris Brown ill give him that.

But putting him against other singers like ginuwine, sisqo,jaheim etc male singers exactly in his generation bracket he cant hold a candle to them. And its fair to compare them and that is not even mentioning other male singers not in his generation bracket.

Usher really is a average singer.. nothing special about his singing at all.

I remember when I saw him open for Janet he did a Bobby Brown medley, though I remember originally hearing he was to do an MJ one.

I'm still mad this man didn't get the career I think he deserved. People talk about how Chris compares to MJ, Justin compares to MJ, Usher compares to MJ...

No Tevin Campbell came the closest as far as vocal ability. I remember growing up thinking some of his records were Michael. But nobody talks about him...his name is never brought up, he's completely off radar and it's sad. He was talented.

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Tevin is far more talented than all of them vocally... its sad how his career went..

I'm not familiar with his music but have always loved his voice and loved it in A Goofy Movie.

Didn't tevin questionable sexuality mess him up? I love tevin idgaf but i'm not even sure if he wanted that big fame maybe he was content with the success he had. I last saw him on the monique show.

This is the only video I found.

http://www.worldstarhipho...X66vA6xvCI

babybugz said:

Didn't tevin questionable sexuality mess him up? I love tevin idgaf but i'm not even sure if he wanted that big fame maybe he was content with the success he had. I last saw him on the monique show.

I am not sure if that is the complete reason but I think that had partially something to do with it.

mjscarousal said:

babybugz said:

Didn't tevin questionable sexuality mess him up? I love tevin idgaf but i'm not even sure if he wanted that big fame maybe he was content with the success he had. I last saw him on the monique show.

I am not sure if that is the complete reason but I think that had partially something to do with it.

Well in the video I posted he said if he had stayed in the industry he would go insane so he decided to walk away. I think it was a good thing he did if he couldn't handle it.

babybugz said:

Didn't tevin questionable sexuality mess him up? I love tevin idgaf but i'm not even sure if he wanted that big fame maybe he was content with the success he had. I last saw him on the monique show.

Of course it did. I remember a famous Chris Rock line, something about Usher being great because he was like "the straight Tevin Campbell." Tremendously talented but we don't care anymore. He might be gay so that automatically becomes a clutch to his success. People are pathetic.

babybugz said:

mjscarousal said:

I am not sure if that is the complete reason but I think that had partially something to do with it.

Well in the video I posted he said if he had stayed in the industry he would go insane so he decided to walk away. I think it was a good thing he did if he couldn't handle it.

I think its good as well. His talent is just far beyond the pop market anyway.

mjscarousal said:

Tevin is far more talented than all of them vocally... its sad how his career went..

Yeah, in that thread you started i asked what happened to him....

He is so off & on in the industry... it's sad

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Average at best.

Gunsnhalen said:

mjscarousal said:

Tevin is far more talented than all of them vocally... its sad how his career went..

Yeah, in that thread you started i asked what happened to him....

He is so off & on in the industry... it's sad

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Oh I am not sure if you read that part but he was doing broadway for a while around 09. When someone asked him about performing again at the BET Awards 09 he said that based on how the industry is now he wasnt that interested anymore...

mjscarousal said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Yeah, in that thread you started i asked what happened to him....

He is so off & on in the industry... it's sad

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Oh I am not sure if you read that part but he was doing broadway for a while around 09. When someone asked him about performing again at the BET Awards 09 he said that based on how the industry is now he wasnt that interested anymore...

I wonder what made him so disgusted in the first place. Did Quincy Jones have something to do with Tevin's disdain for the industry? It seems like there are so many non-talented hacks out there, maybe that's what he's referring to....I just cannot understand why Trey Sucks sounds like a goat but has a career----oh and LOL @ the person who said Goat No Songs lol

SeventeenDayze said:

mjscarousal said:

Oh I am not sure if you read that part but he was doing broadway for a while around 09. When someone asked him about performing again at the BET Awards 09 he said that based on how the industry is now he wasnt that interested anymore...

I wonder what made him so disgusted in the first place. Did Quincy Jones have something to do with Tevin's disdain for the industry? It seems like there are so many non-talented hacks out there, maybe that's what he's referring to....I just cannot understand why Trey Sucks sounds like a goat but has a career----oh and LOL @ the person who said Goat No Songs lol

Thats basically what he was referring to! I think he was selective with his words because he was at the BET AWARDS LOL o irony... I think Quincy Jones did have something to do with it and I wouldnt be suprised being that Jones is a shady character.

Trey Sucks gets all that praise because the industry now is built on image and what sells. For some odd reason his no singing self sells. My generation knows nothing about good music.

^ Quincy's a shark like Clive. I wouldn't be surprised.

Timmy84 said:

^ Quincy's a shark like Clive. I wouldn't be surprised.

I've heard rumors about Quiny that really make me wonder if he didn't somehow take advantage of Tevin, and I'll leave it at that...

Oddly enough while at the store yesterday, they were playing an album cut from one of Tevin's albums that I had on cassette back in the day. It was that song, "Goodbye"....man it made me feel old as hell hearing a song from elementary school being played while shopping at the store, geez.

Can someone post the youtube link for that song Goodbye by Tevin to remind others of it? Thanks

musicjunky318 said:

babybugz said:

Usher basically gave birth to them lol. I listen to all three (not Chris anymore) I always felt Ne-Yo had the better songs out of Trey and Chris.

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Chris is the best dancer (even better than Usher at his peak) and Ne-Yo is the top songwriter. I don't know who's the greater singer out of the three. I honestly don't. They're all subpar to me but I guess it would be between Chris & Ne-Yo. Goat No Songz does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for me in no arena. The nerve to come at R. Kelly.

chris isn't better than anybody with his sloppy ass movements. Omarion would body him, and Usher is far more cleaner and technical with his movements. Chris dances like a wild monkey. No precision or teqnique. He's decent though

On the topic at hand, Usher is a decent singer. At the same time, his vocals wasn't good enough to just rely on that (like tevin campbell for example), the dancing added to his talent factor

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SeventeenDayze said:

Timmy84 said:

^ Quincy's a shark like Clive. I wouldn't be surprised.

I've heard rumors about Quiny that really make me wonder if he didn't somehow take advantage of Tevin, and I'll leave it at that...

Oddly enough while at the store yesterday, they were playing an album cut from one of Tevin's albums that I had on cassette back in the day. It was that song, "Goodbye"....man it made me feel old as hell hearing a song from elementary school being played while shopping at the store, geez.

Can someone post the youtube link for that song Goodbye by Tevin to remind others of it? Thanks

If that's true, that makes me sad.

SeventeenDayze said:

Timmy84 said:

^ Quincy's a shark like Clive. I wouldn't be surprised.

I've heard rumors about Quiny that really make me wonder if he didn't somehow take advantage of Tevin, and I'll leave it at that...

Oddly enough while at the store yesterday, they were playing an album cut from one of Tevin's albums that I had on cassette back in the day. It was that song, "Goodbye"....man it made me feel old as hell hearing a song from elementary school being played while shopping at the store, geez.

Can someone post the youtube link for that song Goodbye by Tevin to remind others of it? Thanks

And I know what "rumors" you're talking about. *shudders*

Pressure said:

musicjunky318 said:

Chris is the best dancer (even better than Usher at his peak) and Ne-Yo is the top songwriter. I don't know who's the greater singer out of the three. I honestly don't. They're all subpar to me but I guess it would be between Chris & Ne-Yo. Goat No Songz does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for me in no arena. The nerve to come at R. Kelly.

chris isn't better than anybody with his sloppy ass movements. Omarion would body him, and Usher is far more cleaner and technical with his movements. Chris dances like a wild monkey. No precision or teqnique. He's decent though

On the topic at hand, Usher is a decent singer. At the same time, his vocals wasn't good enough to just rely on that (like tevin campbell for example), the dancing added to his talent factor

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Sloppy? You can't be serious.

Pressure said:

musicjunky318 said:

Chris is the best dancer (even better than Usher at his peak) and Ne-Yo is the top songwriter. I don't know who's the greater singer out of the three. I honestly don't. They're all subpar to me but I guess it would be between Chris & Ne-Yo. Goat No Songz does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for me in no arena. The nerve to come at R. Kelly.

chris isn't better than anybody with his sloppy ass movements. Omarion would body him, and Usher is far more cleaner and technical with his movements. Chris dances like a wild monkey. No precision or teqnique. He's decent though

On the topic at hand, Usher is a decent singer. At the same time, his vocals wasn't good enough to just rely on that (like tevin campbell for example), the dancing added to his talent factor

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I agree that Chris is rather sloppy and he always proves this when he tries to imitate MJ. ex. BET tribute (good but not graceful, no precision etc) however... I think his dancing skills are more versatile than the others.... I also think Omarion is a talented dancer as well... I dunno... Ive never been to impressed with Usher's dancing... He is alright at just mimicking choregraphy but put him on a stage alone??? His style primarily consists of ripping off MJ.. the SAME with Chris Brown as well but Ive seen him do more versatile things...

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I think that out of a lot of the male artists that have been influenced by MJ (from those who dance and sing) Chris Brown is one of the few that makes the dance moves work for him. He doesn't try to fight his body type. None of them have the slender body and grace that MJ had when he moved, but I don't think that Chris Brown makes it seem awkward either. I find him to do a pretty good job tbqh. Vocally, I think he's all right, but I do like to watch him dance/perform.

He may have his issues, but I find him to be pretty talented...

As for Usher...I don't find him annoying and he stays on key to me whenever I hear him singing a song so that's fine for me.

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Chris Brown looks awkward when he dances because of his height

Urshur is not clean and is too muskully

Omarion is clean but too short

Michael Jackson could dance his ass off but he had the same 10 moves for 30yrs

Ginuwine would crush all of these lil R&B shuckin' and jivin' young'ns

Urshur can really sing. The question is: do you like

his singing?

duccichucka said:

Chris Brown looks awkward when he dances because of his height

Urshur is not clean and is too muskully

Omarion is clean but too short

Michael Jackson could dance his ass off but he had the same 10 moves for 30yrs

Ginuwine would crush all of these lil R&B shuckin' and jivin' young'ns

Urshur can really sing. The question is: do you like

his singing?

What's interesting to me is that these guy don't really even attempt to have their own style, they are too busy ripping off MJ to bother carving their own niche, which actually takes time. It seems like this generation of artists is really bent on being the "next" whoever without even bothering to try to be their own artist. Yes all artists have those they were influenced by but it seems like this wave of artists doesn't even bother to try to be their own artist anymore!