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Thread started 10/13/11 5:35am

HermesReborn

Rock N' Roll Nigger!

Discuss..

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Reply #1 posted 10/13/11 5:57am

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Baby was a black sheep. baby was a whore.

headbang

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Reply #2 posted 10/13/11 6:39am

Graycap23

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Reply #3 posted 10/13/11 6:43am

SoulAlive

eek

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Reply #4 posted 10/13/11 8:05am

HermesReborn

SoulAlive said:

eek

lol

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Reply #5 posted 10/13/11 10:45am

Timmy84

headbang horns

BTW I got read the Riot Act when I posted this lmao

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Reply #6 posted 10/13/11 1:56pm

smoothcriminal
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Reply #7 posted 10/13/11 2:07pm

PlayboyOrigina
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confused I tried to listen to the song and be objective but this is some ol bullshit. This type of rock doesn't move me in the least.

Stevie Wonder = EARTH
Prince = WIND
Chaka Khan = FIRE
Sade = WATER
the ELEMENTS of MUSIC
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Reply #8 posted 10/13/11 2:34pm

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=0P

Brace yourself
The best is yet to come
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Reply #9 posted 10/13/11 2:42pm

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I think I get that she is trying to say (by comparing Jesus and Jackson Pollack) that those who are outcast or scorned by society are the ones she admires and wants to be associated with--and that society ends up understanding the truth about them much later.

But I don't think songs like this age very well, lyrically speaking. Musically it's okay, not amazing.

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Reply #10 posted 10/13/11 3:47pm

HermesReborn

NDRU said:

I think I get that she is trying to say (by comparing Jesus and Jackson Pollack) that those who are outcast or scorned by society are the ones she admires and wants to be associated with--and that society ends up understanding the truth about them much later.

But I don't think songs like this age very well, lyrically speaking. Musically it's okay, not amazing.

You can pretty much say that about the whole punk movement.

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Reply #11 posted 10/13/11 3:57pm

Timmy84

I like the punk movement of the '70s though.

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Reply #12 posted 10/13/11 4:07pm

Gunsnhalen

Great album!. Great artist. Misunderstood message razz

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

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Reply #13 posted 10/13/11 4:08pm

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Timmy84 said:

I like the punk movement of the '70s though.

Back when punk was done by punks lol

Pistols sounded like "Fuck off," wheras The Clash sounded like "Fuck Off, but here's why.."- Thedigitialgardener

All music is shit music and no music is real- gunsnhalen

Datdonkeydick- Asherfierce

Gary Hunts Album Isn't That Good- Soulalive
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Reply #14 posted 10/13/11 4:13pm

Timmy84

Gunsnhalen said:

Timmy84 said:

I like the punk movement of the '70s though.

Back when punk was done by punks lol

lol

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Reply #15 posted 10/13/11 5:06pm

Tortilla

I get the sentiment, but.. ehhh. lol

Not a favorite Patti Smith song.

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Reply #16 posted 10/13/11 6:01pm

HermesReborn

Timmy84 said:

I like the punk movement of the '70s though.

I think Punk was probably the most honest movement in Rock.

It wasn't pretending to be anything more than it was.

A bunch of blokes who could barely tune and play their guitars, expressing their angst to the world.

Nothing wrong with that.

I think the sex pistols ruined that. (which is why I was never partial to them)

This song in particular, I've always had a soft spot for, because it took balls to do.

Low and behold a female from Jersey did it.

I

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Reply #17 posted 10/13/11 6:03pm

Timmy84

HermesReborn said:

Timmy84 said:

I like the punk movement of the '70s though.

I think Punk was probably the most honest movement in Rock.

It wasn't pretending to be anything more than it was.

A bunch of blokes who could barely tune and play their guitars, expressing their angst to the world.

Nothing wrong with that.

I think the sex pistols ruined that. (which is why I was never partial to them)

This song in particular, I've always had a soft spot for, because it took balls to do.

Low and behold a female from Jersey did it.

I

I like the Pistols for their attitude (mainly lol) because that's what sold them in the first place. The Ramones, Clash, Patti and 'em obviously had more talent though.

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Reply #18 posted 10/13/11 6:12pm

HermesReborn

Timmy84 said:

HermesReborn said:

I think Punk was probably the most honest movement in Rock.

It wasn't pretending to be anything more than it was.

A bunch of blokes who could barely tune and play their guitars, expressing their angst to the world.

Nothing wrong with that.

I think the sex pistols ruined that. (which is why I was never partial to them)

This song in particular, I've always had a soft spot for, because it took balls to do.

Low and behold a female from Jersey did it.

I

I like the Pistols for their attitude (mainly lol) because that's what sold them in the first place. The Ramones, Clash, Patti and 'em obviously had more talent though.

The pistols were all cock and no balls.

They had no message.

And you could see that punk slowly started to die after they came. The message was lost

And a transitional stage was sought.

This was achieved by Joy Division... Who interestingly enough where inspired by Sex Pistols energy yet harnessed it in a much more artistic fashion.

In my opinion without Joy Division there is no U2, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Smiths, REM etc...

and alternative rock as we know it would not exist.

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Reply #19 posted 10/13/11 6:17pm

Timmy84

HermesReborn said:

Timmy84 said:

I like the Pistols for their attitude (mainly lol) because that's what sold them in the first place. The Ramones, Clash, Patti and 'em obviously had more talent though.

The pistols were all cock and no balls.

They had no message.

And you could see that punk slowly started to die after they came. The message was lost

And a transitional stage was sought.

This was achieved by Joy Division... Who interestingly enough where inspired by Sex Pistols energy yet harnessed it in a much more artistic fashion.

In my opinion without Joy Division there is no U2, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Smiths, REM etc...

and alternative rock as we know it would not exist.

I've read on how the Pistols had marked the beginning of the end of the punk movement in the UK. Once they hit the U.S., Americans basically thought punk was just a fad or something. Good point about Joy Division. They definitely were a start of a new thing when punk was dying. The Cure and 'em also played a part, same with Siouxsie once she got tired of the Pistols.

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Reply #20 posted 10/13/11 6:39pm

smoothcriminal
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Can I just chime in and say that I adore the Sex Pistols? cool

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Reply #21 posted 10/13/11 6:41pm

HermesReborn

Timmy84 said:

HermesReborn said:

The pistols were all cock and no balls.

They had no message.

And you could see that punk slowly started to die after they came. The message was lost

And a transitional stage was sought.

This was achieved by Joy Division... Who interestingly enough where inspired by Sex Pistols energy yet harnessed it in a much more artistic fashion.

In my opinion without Joy Division there is no U2, Echo and the Bunnymen, The Smiths, REM etc...

and alternative rock as we know it would not exist.

I've read on how the Pistols had marked the beginning of the end of the punk movement in the UK. Once they hit the U.S., Americans basically thought punk was just a fad or something. Good point about Joy Division. They definitely were a start of a new thing when punk was dying. The Cure and 'em also played a part, same with Siouxsie once she got tired of the Pistols.

Americans are stupid...

They didn't even realize it was them who created punk.

If it weren't for proto-punk innovaters like the MC5's, The Velvet underground and the Kinks.

Punk would of never existed.

Punk was pretty much a manifestation of all those acts, with just more added distortion. (And less message in the case of the Sex Pistols.)

But back to this song.

Patti Smith, was def harnessing proto-punk on this record.

It's so sparse. But it does the job.

And it really showcases her vocal rage.

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Reply #22 posted 10/13/11 6:42pm

HermesReborn

smoothcriminal12 said:

Can I just chime in and say that I adore the Sex Pistols? cool

lol It seems on every thread I totally disagree with your preference of music.

razz

No worries though cool

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Reply #23 posted 10/13/11 6:44pm

Timmy84

HermesReborn said:

Timmy84 said:

I've read on how the Pistols had marked the beginning of the end of the punk movement in the UK. Once they hit the U.S., Americans basically thought punk was just a fad or something. Good point about Joy Division. They definitely were a start of a new thing when punk was dying. The Cure and 'em also played a part, same with Siouxsie once she got tired of the Pistols.

Americans are stupid...

They didn't even realize it was them who created punk.

If it weren't for proto-punk innovaters like the MC5's, The Velvet underground and the Kinks.

Punk would of never existed.

Punk was pretty much a manifestation of all those acts, with just more added distortion. (And less message in the case of the Sex Pistols.)

But back to this song.

Patti Smith, was def harnessing proto-punk on this record.

It's so sparse. But it does the job.

And it really showcases her vocal rage.

Exactly! nod I just posted Patti's Pissing in a River... nod

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Reply #24 posted 10/13/11 6:57pm

smoothcriminal
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HermesReborn said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Can I just chime in and say that I adore the Sex Pistols? cool

lol It seems on every thread I totally disagree with your preference of music.

razz

No worries though cool

lol I'm sure we have things in common....

Hmm...your profile says:

Michael Jackson (I love his music, obviously), Ryan Adams (?), Stevie Wonder (I adore Stevie), John Lennon (I can take some of his music), George Harrison (Absolutely love George).

Look at that. Something we agree on. razz

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Reply #25 posted 10/13/11 9:17pm

RKJCNE

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Timmy84 said:

HermesReborn said:

Americans are stupid...

They didn't even realize it was them who created punk.

If it weren't for proto-punk innovaters like the MC5's, The Velvet underground and the Kinks.

Punk would of never existed.

Punk was pretty much a manifestation of all those acts, with just more added distortion. (And less message in the case of the Sex Pistols.)

But back to this song.

Patti Smith, was def harnessing proto-punk on this record.

It's so sparse. But it does the job.

And it really showcases her vocal rage.

Exactly! nod I just posted Patti's Pissing in a River... nod

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