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Reply #420 posted 10/12/11 5:59am

LiLi1992

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I think MJ was thin, but it was not painful thinness. Here the question of the constitution of the body, MJ had thin bones of nature, it is an additional factor in its leanness. The ribs do not stick out at all, the shoulder bones are not visible. Starving and unhealthy skinny people look different.

In addition, 90% of Michael's life was a skinny, so there is nothing extraordinary.

Where is his belly button? I knew that MJ is an alien from outer space. lol

This process is unpleasant, but it answered clearly and formally for many painful for MJ topics:

- He really had vitiligo;

- He was not a chronic drug addict;

- He had not the worst health in the world.

Poor haters, maybe they are so upset. lol

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Reply #421 posted 10/12/11 6:41am

Timmy84

^ I've seen people with bodies as thin looking as Michael's that were indeed healthy. In fact, Michael was skinny his entire life. He was always lanky. It seemed he probably lost a bit of weight prior to his death. Even with clothes on, his appearance in the autopsy photo don't differ much from how he look during the This Is It rehearsals.

[Edited 10/11/11 23:42pm]

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Reply #422 posted 10/12/11 7:16am

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Some people commenting under the posting on TMZ are calling the photo fake.

And the question of the missing belly button still hasn't been conclusively answered so far.

Just saying... rolleyes

Oh and what's this blood-colored incision mark at the top of his chest, anyone knows?..

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Reply #423 posted 10/12/11 8:25am

Timmy84

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I want to believe that if there was no trial, we would have never seen such a photo. It just doesn't feel decent, if not for Michael, then for his family. I felt that MJ couldn't rest in peace until this trial is over, but maybe that's just the thoughts of a living person, I think for me it feels like he isn't getting a rest because of this fiasco, it really doesn't seem real. This feels like some fictional story. I hope those jurors were listening to the autopsy doctor.

MJ looked really skinny, but according to Coroner his weight was reasonable for his height. Wow, obviously my mind has become distorted to what is normal. It isn't the worst celebrity autopsy photo that I've seen, Tupac Shakur's was absolute horrors. The impression of his photo stayed on my mind for many weeks. This trial is moving right along. Earlier I read approx. 6 weeks, then I heard several months. Has anyone else heard this? How could this trial possibly last several months when it seems the writing's on the wall.

It's to last 4 to 6. It's on its third. Depending on how many witnesses the defense presents, we could see this end around the middle of the fourth week.

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Reply #424 posted 10/12/11 1:51pm

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Flo6 said:

Some people commenting under the posting on TMZ are calling the photo fake.

And the question of the missing belly button still hasn't been conclusively answered so far.

Just saying... rolleyes

Oh and what's this blood-colored incision mark at the top of his chest, anyone knows?..

Fake? So I've heard shrug

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Reply #425 posted 10/12/11 3:55pm

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This cardiologist seems to be very nice. He¨s too talkative though. lol

[Edited 10/12/11 9:00am]

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #426 posted 10/12/11 4:07pm

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dag said:

This cardiologist seems to be very nice. He¨s too talkative though. lol

[Edited 10/12/11 9:00am]

lol I thought the same thing. He's probably going to bust Conrad's ass. lol

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Reply #427 posted 10/12/11 4:09pm

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Musicslave said:

dag said:

This cardiologist seems to be very nice. He¨s too talkative though. lol

[Edited 10/12/11 9:00am]

lol I thought the same thing. He's probably going to bust Conrad's ass. lol

After his testimony, I think the jurors might be able to take a test to become a cardiologist.lol

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #428 posted 10/12/11 4:18pm

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lol daq. yeah he seems 2 know his standard of care procedures like he wrote it! lol

hmmm he found SIX violations on murray tho!

something tells me tho if anyone is a hospital under care and the nurse comes with prophofal ..we might get scared for ourselves or family members..

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #429 posted 10/12/11 4:20pm

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I love the way he explains it all as if he was talking to little children.

[Edited 10/12/11 9:22am]

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #430 posted 10/12/11 4:35pm

Timmy84

L4OATheOriginal said:

lol daq. yeah he seems 2 know his standard of care procedures like he wrote it! lol

hmmm he found SIX violations on murray tho!

something tells me tho if anyone is a hospital under care and the nurse comes with prophofal ..we might get scared for ourselves or family members..

Propofol is scary anyway. I definitely wouldn't trust a nurse or doctor prescribing it!

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Reply #431 posted 10/12/11 4:38pm

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dag said:

I love the way he explains it all as if he was talking to little children.

[Edited 10/12/11 9:22am]

all of his answers are being directed straight 2 the jurours too. u can tell this man has giving seminars

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #432 posted 10/12/11 4:41pm

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Timmy84 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

lol daq. yeah he seems 2 know his standard of care procedures like he wrote it! lol

hmmm he found SIX violations on murray tho!

something tells me tho if anyone is a hospital under care and the nurse comes with prophofal ..we might get scared for ourselves or family members..

Propofol is scary anyway. I definitely wouldn't trust a nurse or doctor prescribing it!

my uncle was giving propofol sad 2 say he later passed away due 2 other complications but yeah i don't think i would want that drug. but who's 2 say that any drug we're giving truly helps or harms us ..fucking corporatons only see dollar signs anyway

but back 2 the trial ..sorry 4 my rant

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #433 posted 10/12/11 4:42pm

Timmy84

L4OATheOriginal said:

Timmy84 said:

Propofol is scary anyway. I definitely wouldn't trust a nurse or doctor prescribing it!

my uncle was giving propofol sad 2 say he later passed away due 2 other complications but yeah i don't think i would want that drug. but who's 2 say that any drug we're giving truly helps or harms us ..fucking corporatons only see dollar signs anyway

but back 2 the trial ..sorry 4 my rant

lol I feel ya. nod

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Reply #434 posted 10/12/11 4:44pm

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The cardiologist is destroying Murray. But at the same time, as he describes the strange behaviour of Murray, I'm thinking, no one can be that incompetant. I'm starting to agree with Toya an Jermaine and thinking a conspiracy is afoot.

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Reply #435 posted 10/12/11 4:57pm

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dayum the defense said MORNING BREAK NOW we got our foot up our ass we need 2 regroup!

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #436 posted 10/12/11 5:21pm

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Saw that pic yesterday. I think it's horrible that they just show the pic in public. It's disrespectful, really. We shouldn't have seen it. Poor Michael... sad

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Reply #437 posted 10/12/11 5:30pm

Musicslave

L4OATheOriginal said:

dag said:

I love the way he explains it all as if he was talking to little children.

[Edited 10/12/11 9:22am]

all of his answers are being directed straight 2 the jurours too. u can tell this man has giving seminars

nod Yep. He's a natural. He could probably teach this stuff in his sleep. Which really highlights the incompetence of Murray. Sometimes after hearing certain witnesses, I feel like the defense could just rest and give it up. This dude's toast!

I know they only need reasonable doubt but I can't imagine this jury NOT convicting this man. I just wish he faced more time and actually serve it all.

[Edited 10/12/11 10:38am]

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Reply #438 posted 10/12/11 5:32pm

Musicslave

xLiberiangirl said:

Saw that pic yesterday. I think it's horrible that they just show the pic in public. It's disrespectful, really. We shouldn't have seen it. Poor Michael... sad

Hopefully they gave the family a heads up (so they could leave the room) before putting the picture on display.

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Reply #439 posted 10/12/11 5:42pm

Timmy84

Musicslave said:

xLiberiangirl said:

Saw that pic yesterday. I think it's horrible that they just show the pic in public. It's disrespectful, really. We shouldn't have seen it. Poor Michael... sad

Hopefully they gave the family a heads up (so they could leave the room) before putting the picture on display.

According to people, Rebbie and Katherine Jackson left the court room before the photo could be shown.

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Reply #440 posted 10/12/11 5:43pm

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Loooooooooooove this guy.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #441 posted 10/12/11 5:45pm

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Defense drops claim Jackson took fatal drug dose

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Attorneys for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death say the defense is dropping its claim that the superstar self-administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol.

Lawyer J. Michael Flanagan said Wednesday that a study commissioned by the defense showed any effect from swallowing propofol would be trivial.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren and Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor appeared surprised by the disclosure, which was not made in front of jurors.

Lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff said during opening statements on Sept. 27 that his team would try to show that Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of propofol.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

http://news.yahoo.com/def...14733.html

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Reply #442 posted 10/12/11 5:46pm

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

Defense drops claim Jackson took fatal drug dose

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Attorneys for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death say the defense is dropping its claim that the superstar self-administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol.

Lawyer J. Michael Flanagan said Wednesday that a study commissioned by the defense showed any effect from swallowing propofol would be trivial.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren and Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor appeared surprised by the disclosure, which was not made in front of jurors.

Lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff said during opening statements on Sept. 27 that his team would try to show that Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of propofol.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

http://news.yahoo.com/def...14733.html

I SAW THIS COMING!!!! But what change will this do for Conrad's eventual conviction? lol Nothing.

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Reply #443 posted 10/12/11 5:54pm

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dag said:

Loooooooooooove this guy.

Excellent witness...and easily the most compelling and attractive guy in the courtroom. Not that there's much competition. razz lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #444 posted 10/12/11 5:56pm

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This doctor is a bad ass is not letting the defense trip him up. You go Doctor!!!!!!

Murray, take ya sorry ass to jail already!

This has got 2 B the worst defense attorney ever. lol

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Reply #445 posted 10/12/11 5:57pm

Musicslave

NaughtyKitty said:

Defense drops claim Jackson took fatal drug dose

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Attorneys for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death say the defense is dropping its claim that the superstar self-administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol.

Lawyer J. Michael Flanagan said Wednesday that a study commissioned by the defense showed any effect from swallowing propofol would be trivial.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren and Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor appeared surprised by the disclosure, which was not made in front of jurors.

Lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff said during opening statements on Sept. 27 that his team would try to show that Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of propofol.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

http://news.yahoo.com/def...14733.html

Wow that's a major concession! biggrin I wonder what's next a plea deal or is it too late for that?

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Reply #446 posted 10/12/11 6:05pm

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dag said:

Loooooooooooove this guy.

i'm loving how flanigan is trying 2 say something and this doctor is like BITCH YOUR OWN GUY TOLD THE COPS THIS LOL

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #447 posted 10/12/11 6:06pm

Timmy84

Musicslave said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Defense drops claim Jackson took fatal drug dose

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Attorneys for the doctor charged in Michael Jackson's death say the defense is dropping its claim that the superstar self-administered a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol.

Lawyer J. Michael Flanagan said Wednesday that a study commissioned by the defense showed any effect from swallowing propofol would be trivial.

Deputy District Attorney David Walgren and Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor appeared surprised by the disclosure, which was not made in front of jurors.

Lead defense attorney Ed Chernoff said during opening statements on Sept. 27 that his team would try to show that Jackson gave himself the fatal dose of propofol.

Murray has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter.

http://news.yahoo.com/def...14733.html

Wow that's a major concession! biggrin I wonder what's next a plea deal or is it too late for that?

A plea deal could happen. I wonder if the defense is now gonna say Murray didn't know Michael had died from his (Murray's) dosage??? They just put their boy deeper in the hole with this semi-white flag giving up decision.

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Reply #448 posted 10/12/11 6:08pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

dag said:

Loooooooooooove this guy.

i'm loving how flanigan is trying 2 say something and this doctor is like BITCH YOUR OWN GUY TOLD THE COPS THIS LOL

Yeah!

That fucking lawyer is so clueless and annoying and grasping at straws

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Reply #449 posted 10/12/11 6:12pm

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PatrickS77 said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

i'm loving how flanigan is trying 2 say something and this doctor is like BITCH YOUR OWN GUY TOLD THE COPS THIS LOL

Yeah!

That fucking lawyer is so clueless and annoying and grasping at straws

if i was the prosecution i wouldn't even recross this witness he's basically said in so many ways and times that i'm using your own clients words against him, he fucked up

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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