JoeTyler said:

Dreamer2 said:

No ....is the answer to your question check out this lady....

1. She is young

2. She is Sexy as hell

3. She British

4. She plays the hell out of the Sax

5. Stevie Wonder lovers her....

6. Check out her new website....

http://www.yolandabrown.co.uk/

7. She talented.... I hope Prince will be working with her soon !!!!!!!

8. At school, YolanDa was as able in the classroom as she was in the music room. She excelled in all subjects, especially maths and science. She sailed through her GCSEs, became head girl during her A-levels, and went on to university. She graduated with first class honours, gaining a Masters in Management Science. She then completed a Masters in Social Research Methods. For the last four years Brown has been studying for a PhD, at the University of Kent, but has taken a sabbatical in order to pursue her music career.

ok, the lady went to college...

so?

lol

Way to go .... is this a thread about SAX being hip/current and you skip past this talent like she's not worth your time...great you should of just ruled out female sax players and young ones at that...and i wouldn't of posted the thread....

only on the org...

A youngblood with an interesting name, Grace Kelly...



...The Way You Look Tonight



Another female is Suga Mamas band member Tia Fuller...



...2010 JJA Jazz Awards



Although they're current, since they primarily play Jazz they probably wouldn't be considered hip by most.




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As long as saxophone is not an endangered species instrument in jazz, it'll remain. Maybe it'll make a pop comeback one day.

Timmy84 said:

As long as saxophone is not an endangered species instrument in jazz, it'll remain. Maybe it'll make a pop comeback one day.

In the world of Jazz, it's alive and well.

Music for adventurous listeners

tA

Tribal Records

Timmy84 said:

As long as saxophone is not an endangered species instrument in jazz, it'll remain.

Exactly, and it works better in that context anyway IMO.

Like standup bass doesn't appear too much in pop either, or playing drums with brushes, muted trumpet, etc

NDRU said:

Like standup bass doesn't appear too much in pop either, or playing drums with brushes, muted trumpet, etc

Just to go off the main topic for a sec, it's a question of the players and how they incorporate it.

Brian Bromberg...



...Hero

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Did someone just diss Anita Baker & James Ingram 2 of the best vocalists the industry has ever seen? Wow the Org really does hate anybody who specializes in VOCALS instead of whispering like some blow up doll aka Madonna or Britney. SMDH This forum is a mess.

PlayboyOriginal said:

Did someone just diss Anita Baker & James Ingram 2 of the best vocalists the industry has ever seen? Wow the Org really does hate anybody who specializes in VOCALS instead of whispering like some blow up doll aka Madonna or Britney. SMDH This forum is a mess.

I will proudly raise my hand as being that cat that is not a fan of Anita and James. For me the quality of the vocals has absolutely nothing to do with my enjoyment of the music. I will happily take an engaging song with crappy vocals over a crappy song with fantastic vocals. Ideally I would like both but I find a lot of great singers are saddled with boring music. For a few years I heard people raving about the great soul singer Anita Baker so I bought Rapture expecting it to be great soul music. Well, I don't know what you call her music but soul it ain't! That album put me right to sleep.

Now, of course I am not saying that just because something is not to my taste that others can't enjoy it. If people want to hear watered down R & B that's up to them but the thing that bothered me about the eighties was that the gritty soul music of the '60s and '70s that I loved virtually disappeared and was replaced by very clean and sterile adult contemporary music. What I want is variety.

This I like:

rialb said:

PlayboyOriginal said:

Did someone just diss Anita Baker & James Ingram 2 of the best vocalists the industry has ever seen? Wow the Org really does hate anybody who specializes in VOCALS instead of whispering like some blow up doll aka Madonna or Britney. SMDH This forum is a mess.

I will proudly raise my hand as being that cat that is not a fan of Anita and James. For me the quality of the vocals has absolutely nothing to do with my enjoyment of the music. I will happily take an engaging song with crappy vocals over a crappy song with fantastic vocals. Ideally I would like both but I find a lot of great singers are saddled with boring music. For a few years I heard people raving about the great soul singer Anita Baker so I bought Rapture expecting it to be great soul music. Well, I don't know what you call her music but soul it ain't! That album put me right to sleep.

Now, of course I am not saying that just because something is not to my taste that others can't enjoy it. If people want to hear watered down R & B that's up to them but the thing that bothered me about the eighties was that the gritty soul music of the '60s and '70s that I loved virtually disappeared and was replaced by very clean and sterile adult contemporary music. What I want is variety.

I could careless what you categorize and pigeonhole Anita's music as. But you not gonna sit here and act like that woman ain't a damn good singer. She is by far Top 5 of the best singers that emerged from the 80's and her influence is undeniable in Lalah Hathaway, Rachelle Ferrell, Monica, Chrisette Michele etc. Her vocals are straight up jazzy soul and she writes/ produces her own shit. Watered down R&B my ass but you are the same person who just said Tina and Ike was mediocore so whatever. I can respect others' opinions that differ to my own but when someone brings in irrelevant things from the topic at hand then I'll peep up.

PlayboyOriginal said:

rialb said:

I will proudly raise my hand as being that cat that is not a fan of Anita and James. For me the quality of the vocals has absolutely nothing to do with my enjoyment of the music. I will happily take an engaging song with crappy vocals over a crappy song with fantastic vocals. Ideally I would like both but I find a lot of great singers are saddled with boring music. For a few years I heard people raving about the great soul singer Anita Baker so I bought Rapture expecting it to be great soul music. Well, I don't know what you call her music but soul it ain't! That album put me right to sleep.

Now, of course I am not saying that just because something is not to my taste that others can't enjoy it. If people want to hear watered down R & B that's up to them but the thing that bothered me about the eighties was that the gritty soul music of the '60s and '70s that I loved virtually disappeared and was replaced by very clean and sterile adult contemporary music. What I want is variety.

I could careless what you categorize and pigeonhole Anita's music as. But you not gonna sit here and act like that woman ain't a damn good singer. She is by far Top 5 of the best singers that emerged from the 80's and her influence is undeniable in Lalah Hathaway, Rachelle Ferrell, Monica, Chrisette Michele etc. Her vocals are straight up jazzy soul and she writes/ produces her own shit. Watered down R&B my ass but you are the same person who just said Tina and Ike was mediocore so whatever. I can respect others' opinions that differ to my own but when someone brings in irrelevant things from the topic at hand then I'll peep up.

Obviously you care how I categorise and pigeonhole Anita's music, otherwise you would not have taken the time to respond. Seriously, no need to get all worked up about it. Of course my opinions are absolutely meaningless to you. The only opinion that should matter is your own and if you love Anita Baker's music that's great.

As I said, I am far more interested in great songs rather than great vocals and for me Anita's music is boring. As a pure vocalist Celine Dion is a phenomenal singer but that doesn't mean that her music is good. Material is key. Writing and producing your own material has absolutely nothing to do with the quality. Plenty of people write and produce bad music.

Honestly, do you believe that in the '60s Ike and Tina's albums were full of great music? Typically they had one or two decent singles and the rest was forgettable filler. I like Ike and I think he was a great musician and bandleader and live they were killer but Ike was not a great songwriter. By the late '60s/early '70s they started to do some great covers and their albums got better but I don't believe that they ever released a classic album that was great from start to finish. I'm curious to know, what would you say was their best studio album, particularly of the sixties?

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rialb said:

PlayboyOriginal said:

I could careless what you categorize and pigeonhole Anita's music as. But you not gonna sit here and act like that woman ain't a damn good singer. She is by far Top 5 of the best singers that emerged from the 80's and her influence is undeniable in Lalah Hathaway, Rachelle Ferrell, Monica, Chrisette Michele etc. Her vocals are straight up jazzy soul and she writes/ produces her own shit. Watered down R&B my ass but you are the same person who just said Tina and Ike was mediocore so whatever. I can respect others' opinions that differ to my own but when someone brings in irrelevant things from the topic at hand then I'll peep up.

Obviously you care how I categorise and pigeonhole Anita's music, otherwise you would not have taken the time to respond. Seriously, no need to get all worked up about it. Of course my opinions are absolutely meaningless to you. The only opinion that should matter is your own and if you love Anita Baker's music that's great.

As I said, I am far more interested in great songs rather than great vocals and for me Anita's music is boring. As a pure vocalist Celine Dion is a phenomenal singer but that doesn't mean that her music is good. Material is key. Writing and producing your own material has absolutely nothing to do with the quality. Plenty of people write and produce bad music.

Honestly, do you believe that in the '60s Ike and Tina's albums were full of great music? Typically they had one or two decent singles and the rest was forgettable filler. I like Ike and I think he was a great musician and bandleader and live they were killer but Ike was not a great songwriter. By the late '60s/early '70s they started to do some great covers and their albums got better but I don't believe that they ever released a classic album that was great from start to finish. I'm curious to know, what would you say was their best studio album, particularly of the sixties?

[Edited 10/1/11 7:23am]

Working Together is a great example of the gritty side of soul music. And if you like the blues, you'll love the Hunter.

I'm cheating here, but I would def rank River Deep, Mountain High right up there even though its not an Ike production. I'd def say this album was the single greatest thing Phil Spector ever produced.

Harlepolis said:

rialb said:

Obviously you care how I categorise and pigeonhole Anita's music, otherwise you would not have taken the time to respond. Seriously, no need to get all worked up about it. Of course my opinions are absolutely meaningless to you. The only opinion that should matter is your own and if you love Anita Baker's music that's great.

As I said, I am far more interested in great songs rather than great vocals and for me Anita's music is boring. As a pure vocalist Celine Dion is a phenomenal singer but that doesn't mean that her music is good. Material is key. Writing and producing your own material has absolutely nothing to do with the quality. Plenty of people write and produce bad music.

Honestly, do you believe that in the '60s Ike and Tina's albums were full of great music? Typically they had one or two decent singles and the rest was forgettable filler. I like Ike and I think he was a great musician and bandleader and live they were killer but Ike was not a great songwriter. By the late '60s/early '70s they started to do some great covers and their albums got better but I don't believe that they ever released a classic album that was great from start to finish. I'm curious to know, what would you say was their best studio album, particularly of the sixties?

[Edited 10/1/11 7:23am]

Working Together is a great example of the gritty side of soul music. And if you like the blues, you'll love the Hunter.

I'm cheating here, but I would def rank River Deep, Mountain High right up there even though its not an Ike production. I'd def say this album was the single greatest thing Phil Spector ever produced.

I think I have The Hunter as part of a two disc set that collects four albums from the late '60s/early '70s. I believe that Workin' Together was recently reissued with another album on a single disc, I'll keep an eye out for it. Hmm, pretty sure that River Deep, Mountain High was also recently reissued but I haven't picked it up yet. The bad thing about Ike and Tina is that their catalog is pretty messy. They recorded for several different labels which complicates things a bit. It would be great if there was a compilation that could cherry pick from everything circa 1958-1975.