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Thread started 09/29/11 11:49am

JoeTyler

Is sax dead as a "hip/current" instrument?

whatever happened to sax? and the winds?! remember the pre-50s big bands, 50s rock n' roll driven by wild saxes? 70s funk with a big horns section? 80s pop songs with tasty sax solos??

00s music sucks because it killed the horns/sax , predictable, rhythmless crap

and now even Clarence is dead sad :discuss:

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Reply #1 posted 09/29/11 11:52am

MickyDolenz

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Kenny G. still records. wink

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Reply #2 posted 09/29/11 11:53am

JoeTyler

MickyDolenz said:

Kenny G. still records. wink

and God Bless him!

people call him cheesy, I call him a warrior fighting for good taste

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Reply #3 posted 09/29/11 11:56am

NDRU

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SERGIO!!!!!!!

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Reply #4 posted 09/29/11 12:02pm

NDRU

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Sax is doing fine IMO, I know a bunch of sax players who work. One was hired along with a few others to back up The Black Crowes just a couple years back.

But it's a horn section, not a cheesy dirty sax rock solo

you can see them here

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Reply #5 posted 09/29/11 12:04pm

JoeTyler

Sergio the Sax Player?

cool

that man doesn't even have an article on Wikipedia... disbelief

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Reply #6 posted 09/29/11 12:05pm

JoeTyler

NDRU said:

Sax is doing fine IMO, I know a bunch of sax players who work. One was hired along with a few others to back up The Black Crowes just a couple years back.

But it's a horn section, not a cheesy dirty sax rock solo

you can see them here

oh c'mon man...

it's not extint, but it's certainly one of the endangered species...

I mean, the golden age is looooong gone...

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Reply #7 posted 09/29/11 12:06pm

NDRU

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JoeTyler said:

NDRU said:

Sax is doing fine IMO, I know a bunch of sax players who work. One was hired along with a few others to back up The Black Crowes just a couple years back.

But it's a horn section, not a cheesy dirty sax rock solo

you can see them here

oh c'mon man...

it's not extint, but it's certainly one of the endangered species...

I mean, the golden age is looooong gone...

well, yeah it's not thriving as a rock instrument, but the horn players I know all seem to make more money than me, the singer/guitar player

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Reply #8 posted 09/29/11 12:07pm

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Boney James is still around.

As for popular music, I think Katy Perry and Gaga are trying to bring them back, but I don't see it catching on anytime soon. There are so many songs I hear on the radio that could use a good sax solo.

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Reply #9 posted 09/29/11 1:35pm

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Not if you play a white or matt black one.

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Reply #10 posted 09/29/11 1:38pm

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Sax is all over the new fDeluxe album. biggrin They are "hip/current", right?

Right???

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Reply #11 posted 09/29/11 1:40pm

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I was at the funeral. It was a nice service. Lots of reeds were there. The mouthpieces couldn't stop singing his praises. I'll miss him. touched

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Reply #12 posted 09/29/11 1:54pm

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sextonseven said:

Sax is all over the new fDeluxe album. biggrin They are "hip/current", right?

Right???

neutral

This is exactly what I came here to post.

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Reply #13 posted 09/29/11 2:12pm

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johnart said:

sextonseven said:

Sax is all over the new fDeluxe album. biggrin They are "hip/current", right?

Right???

neutral

This is exactly what I came here to post.

highfive

I've only heard the 90 second song clips on iTunes, but every time the sax comes on, I'm all love

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Reply #14 posted 09/29/11 4:46pm

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This thread is about 10-15 years too late LOL. I havn't heard sax in a pop song (which is what I presume JoeTyler means) since Whitneys "I will always love you". Iam sure theres been a few here and there, and of course as mentioned, there was Gaga's "edge of glory" which was cool and different for her to do, but otherwise, its been dead since the early 90's. It's heyday being the 80's.

I've got songs where I guess to myself "is this gonna be a sax solo or a guitar solo?" LOL. Which reminds me that guitars have been gone in pop music since the El lay session draught after the late 80's. Again theres been some guitar in pop music, but not like it was.....

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Reply #15 posted 09/29/11 6:26pm

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JoeTyler said:

whatever happened to sax? and the winds?! remember the pre-50s big bands, 50s rock n' roll driven by wild saxes? 70s funk with a big horns section? 80s pop songs with tasty sax solos??

"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #16 posted 09/29/11 6:36pm

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Eh, I think a lot of the saxophone solos of the eighties were pretty bad and did not serve the songs very well. For me that is when the instrument started to go downhill in the context of pop music. The use of saxophone in the eighties kind of became a cliche and I'm not surprised that by the late eighties/early nineties it was basically dead.

I say screw the saxophone, I have always preferred trombones and trumpets anyway.

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Reply #17 posted 09/29/11 7:28pm

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Edge of Glory, Last Friday Night.

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Reply #18 posted 09/29/11 9:05pm

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Sax-AH-funnist? Damn, I been saying it wrong all these years? biggrin

theAudience said:

Depends on what you listen to.

Ernie Watts...



...Interview


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Reply #19 posted 09/29/11 9:29pm

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Damn the sax was such a funky instrument. I love the Sax solo at the end of Super Freak. It really shows how saxes can be the funkiest and sexiest instrument.

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Reply #20 posted 09/30/11 6:33am

Militant

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peep the sax solo that starts at 2.40

music

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Reply #21 posted 09/30/11 6:40am

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No ....is the answer to your question check out this lady....

1. She is young

2. She is Sexy as hell

3. She British

4. She plays the hell out of the Sax

5. Stevie Wonder lovers her....

6. Check out her new website....

http://www.yolandabrown.co.uk/

7. She talented.... I hope Prince will be working with her soon !!!!!!!

8. At school, YolanDa was as able in the classroom as she was in the music room. She excelled in all subjects, especially maths and science. She sailed through her GCSEs, became head girl during her A-levels, and went on to university. She graduated with first class honours, gaining a Masters in Management Science. She then completed a Masters in Social Research Methods. For the last four years Brown has been studying for a PhD, at the University of Kent, but has taken a sabbatical in order to pursue her music career.

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Reply #22 posted 09/30/11 9:01am

JoeTyler

Dreamer2 said:

No ....is the answer to your question check out this lady....

1. She is young

2. She is Sexy as hell

3. She British

4. She plays the hell out of the Sax

5. Stevie Wonder lovers her....

6. Check out her new website....

http://www.yolandabrown.co.uk/

7. She talented.... I hope Prince will be working with her soon !!!!!!!

8. At school, YolanDa was as able in the classroom as she was in the music room. She excelled in all subjects, especially maths and science. She sailed through her GCSEs, became head girl during her A-levels, and went on to university. She graduated with first class honours, gaining a Masters in Management Science. She then completed a Masters in Social Research Methods. For the last four years Brown has been studying for a PhD, at the University of Kent, but has taken a sabbatical in order to pursue her music career.

ok, the lady went to college...

so?

lol

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Reply #23 posted 09/30/11 9:02am

JoeTyler

rialb said:

Eh, I think a lot of the saxophone solos of the eighties were pretty bad and did not serve the songs very well. For me that is when the instrument started to go downhill in the context of pop music. The use of saxophone in the eighties kind of became a cliche and I'm not surprised that by the late eighties/early nineties it was basically dead.

I say screw the saxophone, I have always preferred trombones and trumpets anyway.

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Reply #24 posted 09/30/11 9:08am

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JoeTyler said:

rialb said:

Eh, I think a lot of the saxophone solos of the eighties were pretty bad and did not serve the songs very well. For me that is when the instrument started to go downhill in the context of pop music. The use of saxophone in the eighties kind of became a cliche and I'm not surprised that by the late eighties/early nineties it was basically dead.

I say screw the saxophone, I have always preferred trombones and trumpets anyway.

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confused

Well, what do you think are some good eighties saxophone solos? When I think eighties saxophone I think "Careless Whisper" which is a bit icky.

I guess I just prefer it in the context of jazz/R & B. In pop music it often seems like a bit of a novelty.

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Reply #25 posted 09/30/11 9:13am

JoeTyler

rialb said:

JoeTyler said:

confused

Well, what do you think are some good eighties saxophone solos? When I think eighties saxophone I think "Careless Whisper" which is a bit icky.

I guess I just prefer it in the context of jazz/R & B. In pop music it often seems like a bit of a novelty.

early-80s new wave was full of saxes. Nothing cheesy about them

and some tasty saxes during the heyday of Sophisti-Pop (84-90)

even 90s modern-R&B knew when to use a sax ...

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Reply #26 posted 09/30/11 9:33am

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Reply #27 posted 09/30/11 10:03am

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JoeTyler said:

rialb said:

Well, what do you think are some good eighties saxophone solos? When I think eighties saxophone I think "Careless Whisper" which is a bit icky.

I guess I just prefer it in the context of jazz/R & B. In pop music it often seems like a bit of a novelty.

early-80s new wave was full of saxes. Nothing cheesy about them

and some tasty saxes during the heyday of Sophisti-Pop (84-90)

even 90s modern-R&B knew when to use a sax ...

But specifically what are the eighties songs that you believe feature tasty saxophone solos?

For me I never thought that the saxophone fit with the sound of eighties pop. Much of it was fairly cold and sterile and then you would have a saxophone solo, it seemed fairly incongruous. Groups like The Specials and Madness that regularly featured horns sounded fine but most of the time it seemed like a novelty.

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Reply #28 posted 09/30/11 10:08am

JoeTyler

rialb said:

JoeTyler said:

early-80s new wave was full of saxes. Nothing cheesy about them

and some tasty saxes during the heyday of Sophisti-Pop (84-90)

even 90s modern-R&B knew when to use a sax ...

But specifically what are the eighties songs that you believe feature tasty saxophone solos?

For me I never thought that the saxophone fit with the sound of eighties pop. Much of it was fairly cold and sterile and then you would have a saxophone solo, it seemed fairly incongruous. Groups like The Specials and Madness that regularly featured horns sounded fine but most of the time it seemed like a novelty.

man, too many lol the sax and the guitar owned the 80s

the songs that I posted are just SOME examples...

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Reply #29 posted 09/30/11 10:15am

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I kind of dig the saxophone on Aerosmith's Night in the Ruts album and Guns N' Roses' "Move to the City."

'60s and '70s R & B I can dig the saxophone.

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