A Mariah and JD collaboration is fine with me, I'm a huge JD fan-he's so underrated. But that's another thread. I loved the Mariah of old before the hip-hop, but I don't know if Mariah liked it.

I like the Mariah we have now and will not put her in a box because I believe the Mariah that we were introudced to wasn't the real Mariah. That was someone else's vision.

Mariah says that she will always be 12, it doesn't mean that she's immature, just that she see's herself in a different way. I believe that this is keeping her youthful. I know that she can be classy and she is certainly a woman who can be girlish-nothing wrong with that! I know what you mean about rainbows and licking lollipops, but Mariah is just trying to appeal to her audience who actually downloads an album or a single or who will tweet about her. Not old-timers who might nod their heads when they hear her music (if they hear it) and then do nothing.

SoulAlive said:

That song is from 'Glitter'

Cool, I should have known better. It really has that soundtrack written all over it. Who would have thought that Mariah Carey and Funk in the same sentence would actually go together without being a joke.

Thanks for confirming SoulAlive

BlaqueKnight said:

To this day, IMO, "All My Life" is one of her best fast songs and shows what happens when a real producer (Rick James) gets their hands on her voice.

Jermaine Dupri has always been a slouch to me. He needs to stick to producing kids and leave the grown folks music to the grown folks.

Rick put that Tina funk on that track and Mariah sang the sh*t out of it. This actually sounds like something Jam & Lewis might have done as well. She needs to move on to more musically skilled producers. JD can make simple dance floor grooves but he's not a skilled musician and it shows in his production.

Am I the only person that ran out and bought the Glitter album? Just asking because when I went to see the movie the first day it premiered, my date and I were the only people in the theatre!

Wasn't that special of hinm to rent the theatre for little ole' me?

Rick James is all over this song! When I hear this song, I can hear Teena Marie's voice. She could have slid right into this song.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Even though U right about Rick James. Who I was a huge fan of his productions. I never heard this track. I never knew he even worked with Mariah. This track is HOT! But U dead wrong about Jermaine. I don't why he gets so much critisism on this site. Jermaine produced Mariah's biggest hit "We Belong Together".Also U wrong about his skills to. He is a skilled musician to & was a child prodigy.

Now I will agree I didn't care much for his work with my girl Janet Jackson. That was not a good match. But Jermaine & Mariah make good music together.

I think we have different standards. JD has never impressed me as a musician. What does he even play besides the sequencer? Is there any youtube footage of him playing something somewhere? I'm open to have my mind changed about his abilities if there is proof.

BlaqueKnight said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Even though U right about Rick James. Who I was a huge fan of his productions. I never heard this track. I never knew he even worked with Mariah. This track is HOT! But U dead wrong about Jermaine. I don't why he gets so much critisism on this site. Jermaine produced Mariah's biggest hit "We Belong Together".Also U wrong about his skills to. He is a skilled musician to & was a child prodigy.

Now I will agree I didn't care much for his work with my girl Janet Jackson. That was not a good match. But Jermaine & Mariah make good music together.

I think we have different standards. JD has never impressed me as a musician. What does he even play besides the sequencer? Is there any youtube footage of him playing something somewhere? I'm open to have my mind changed about his abilities if there is proof.

I agree with you. JD is a beat maker. His best songs were co-written by real musicians and singers. I find it funny that "Always Be My Baby" was co-written by Jermaine, but the co-writers were the ones that really put that track together.

Timmy84 said:

CHIC0 said:

ok.. ENOUGH about her hair!!

i just want a new album with a fresh sound. am i hoping for too much?

no, or very very minimal hip hop/rap/callaborations...

no lullaby album...though i expect a song or two.

no songs feat. Jermaine Dupris.

just Mariah. << yes i did!!

We might get a solid R&B/pop album. Least I hope so. The hip-hop/R&B marriage is falling apart.

Keep dreaming. I love my Mimi but I doubt if she'll go back to music with substance anytime soon. Maybe one day but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting on it to happen.

Identity said:

September 26, 2011

Mariah Carey is back to work.

Less than six months after giving birth to her twins, the new mom returned to the studio to begin her next album. She and longtime collaborator Jermaine Dupri posted photos of themselves in the lab. “So happy to be back in the studio with the one & only @Mr_Dupri aka Jermash!” wrote MC, while JD added, “We are back together.”

The dynamic duo last collaborated on “Oh Santa” off last year’s holiday album Merry Christmas II You. Mariah will also make an appearance on the U.S. edition of “The X Factor” as Simon Cowell’s guest.

Link

She looks AMAZING!!!!! Hope she will sound as good as she looks

Musicslave said:

BlaqueKnight said:

To this day, IMO, "All My Life" is one of her best fast songs and shows what happens when a real producer (Rick James) gets their hands on her voice.

Jermaine Dupri has always been a slouch to me. He needs to stick to producing kids and leave the grown folks music to the grown folks.

Rick put that Tina funk on that track and Mariah sang the sh*t out of it. This actually sounds like something Jam & Lewis might have done as well. She needs to move on to more musically skilled producers. JD can make simple dance floor grooves but he's not a skilled musician and it shows in his production.

Where the hell have I been? Never heard this joint! WOW Never knew she worked with Rick. Which album was this from? And you're right, it does have a Jam & Lewis feel to it. Thanks for posting...

This song is from the underrated Glitter album. Everyone assumes since the movie sucked the album

sucked too. The album was good save a couple of mundande tracks. Since everyone around that time seemed to stump on Mariah while she was down with the whole breakdown because she was physically exhausted and not crazy as people put it seemed everyone bailed on the album.

This is imo too that this is Mariah's best uptempo track and i agree with BK here. I remember watching a few years ago an interview with Mariah on Larry King where she stated people would

ask her why don't she belt out tunes like she used to do in the early nineties and she stated she

doesn't want to and it's boring as hell at times. I agree with her to an extent. I don't need anymore

Hero, Vision of Love, etc. but the kiddie as producer driven tunes must go. If she had a producer like Rick that knew what the hell they were doing in the studio, she would have more gems like this. I'll admit her and JD had chemistry together and Mariah is the only one he has had it with

in recent memory but one can only wonder how long before the well runs dry here.

phunkdaddy said:

Musicslave said:

Where the hell have I been? Never heard this joint! WOW Never knew she worked with Rick. Which album was this from? And you're right, it does have a Jam & Lewis feel to it. Thanks for posting...

This song is from the underrated Glitter album. Everyone assumes since the movie sucked the album

sucked too. The album was good save a couple of mundande tracks. Since everyone around that time seemed to stump on Mariah while she was down with the whole breakdown because she was physically exhausted and not crazy as people put it seemed everyone bailed on the album.

This is imo too that this is Mariah's best uptempo track and i agree with BK here. I remember watching a few years ago an interview with Mariah on Larry King where she stated people would

ask her why don't she belt out tunes like she used to do in the early nineties and she stated she

doesn't want to and it's boring as hell at times. I agree with her to an extent. I don't need anymore

Hero, Vision of Love, etc. but the kiddie as producer driven tunes must go. If she had a producer like Rick that knew what the hell they were doing in the studio, she would have more gems like this. I'll admit her and JD had chemistry together and Mariah is the only one he has had it with

in recent memory but one can only wonder how long before the well runs dry here.

Actually Jermaine has had major success with Usher to. He is the reason Usher became a major crossover artist with his mega hit album "Confessions" that they compare to Mj's "Thriller".

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

phunkdaddy said:

This song is from the underrated Glitter album. Everyone assumes since the movie sucked the album

sucked too. The album was good save a couple of mundande tracks. Since everyone around that time seemed to stump on Mariah while she was down with the whole breakdown because she was physically exhausted and not crazy as people put it seemed everyone bailed on the album.

This is imo too that this is Mariah's best uptempo track and i agree with BK here. I remember watching a few years ago an interview with Mariah on Larry King where she stated people would

ask her why don't she belt out tunes like she used to do in the early nineties and she stated she

doesn't want to and it's boring as hell at times. I agree with her to an extent. I don't need anymore

Hero, Vision of Love, etc. but the kiddie as producer driven tunes must go. If she had a producer like Rick that knew what the hell they were doing in the studio, she would have more gems like this. I'll admit her and JD had chemistry together and Mariah is the only one he has had it with

in recent memory but one can only wonder how long before the well runs dry here.

Actually Jermaine has had major success with Usher to. He is the reason Usher became a major crossover artist with his mega hit album "Confessions" that they compare to Mj's "Thriller".

That is if you consider anything that Usher has done recently to be good. I only dug that

slow title track off his last album recently since a few tracks off of 8701.

phunkdaddy said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Actually Jermaine has had major success with Usher to. He is the reason Usher became a major crossover artist with his mega hit album "Confessions" that they compare to Mj's "Thriller".

That is if you consider anything that Usher has done recently to be good. I only dug that

slow title track off his last album recently since a few tracks off of 8701.

Wait, who compared Confessions to Thriller? Were they high or something? LOL

SeventeenDayze said:

phunkdaddy said:

That is if you consider anything that Usher has done recently to be good. I only dug that

slow title track off his last album recently since a few tracks off of 8701.

Wait, who compared Confessions to Thriller? Were they high or something? LOL

That album was Usher's Thriller in his career. He will never top that success he got with that mega hit album, that turned him into a sex symbol like Prince....

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Wait, who compared Confessions to Thriller? Were they high or something? LOL

That album was Usher's Thriller in his career. He will never top that success he got with that mega hit album, that turned him into a sex symbol like Prince....

oh ok--you're not comparing it to Thriller/1982 but saying that was Usher's breakout album--okay agreed on that Just thought at first that was a comment that sounds like all the others that try to dig around for the next MJ....I've heard some pretty horrible comparisons of some of today's artists to MJ and it makes my stomach turn!

SeventeenDayze said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That album was Usher's Thriller in his career. He will never top that success he got with that mega hit album, that turned him into a sex symbol like Prince....

oh ok--you're not comparing it to Thriller/1982 but saying that was Usher's breakout album--okay agreed on that Just thought at first that was a comment that sounds like all the others that try to dig around for the next MJ....I've heard some pretty horrible comparisons of some of today's artists to MJ and it makes my stomach turn!

I wish Janet would get back into the studio, at least around January 2012. Please don't work with JD again......LÖL

PrettyMan72 said:

I wish Janet would get back into the studio, at least around January 2012. Please don't work with JD again......LÖL

Both Mimi and Janet need to work with more adult-oriented producers who are going to completely overhaul their sound. I'm sorry, but no one wants to see a 40+ old performing extravagant dance routines and singing dumb, meaningless teeny-bopper songs.

daPrettyman said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I think we have different standards. JD has never impressed me as a musician. What does he even play besides the sequencer? Is there any youtube footage of him playing something somewhere? I'm open to have my mind changed about his abilities if there is proof.

I agree with you. JD is a beat maker. His best songs were co-written by real musicians and singers. I find it funny that "Always Be My Baby" was co-written by Jermaine, but the co-writers were the ones that really put that track together.

JD and Mariah have worked well together sometimes, but his beats are very plastic. I liked his production on stuff like "Slipping Away" "Always Be My Baby" and ... some other ones. I always felt he does best when he is doing the 80's r&b sound..and sadly when he was it is a rehash of another song already produced...like what he did to Imaginations "Illusion" for Mariah's "Get Your Number". Had it been original it would have had more flavor imo.

paisleypark4 said:

daPrettyman said:

I agree with you. JD is a beat maker. His best songs were co-written by real musicians and singers. I find it funny that "Always Be My Baby" was co-written by Jermaine, but the co-writers were the ones that really put that track together.

JD and Mariah have worked well together sometimes, but his beats are very plastic. I liked his production on stuff like "Slipping Away" "Always Be My Baby" and ... some other ones. I always felt he does best when he is doing the 80's r&b sound..and sadly when he was it is a rehash of another song already produced...like what he did to Imaginations "Illusion" for Mariah's "Get Your Number". Had it been original it would have had more flavor imo.

True. JD's cool but yeah he is indeed plastic.

kitbradley said:

PrettyMan72 said:

I wish Janet would get back into the studio, at least around January 2012. Please don't work with JD again......LÖL

Both Mimi and Janet need to work with more adult-oriented producers who are going to completely overhaul their sound. I'm sorry, but no one wants to see a 40+ old performing extravagant dance routines and singing dumb, meaningless teeny-bopper songs.

You know Kit, I think that's the flipside of all this easy production/overproduction, it doesn't really give a performer/entertainer like Janet a lot of room to grow with their sound because it revolved around everything but her singing...with Mariah, you can pretty much guess her songs are gonna be about butterflies, charmbracelets, rain or something with Baby being repeated.....this is the reality of music nowadays---maybe they can do jazz albums or something?

[Edited 9/28/11 20:02pm]

I love Mc's music. Her last album is very underrated. Can't wait to see what she does next

Marlena58 said:

I love Mc's music. Her last album is very underrated. Can't wait to see what she does next

Meh the last two albums were just not hitting it for me. I liked the Christmas album though if that what you were talking about.

Imperfect Angel was very hit or miss. She had some good lyrics..but the Dream produced tracks really did not do much in terms of value. They all kind of sound the same after while.

She NEEDS to keep her hair curly.

She looks great.

I want more of 'Always be my baby' and less of 'Thanx 4 nothin''.

phunkdaddy said:

This song is from the underrated Glitter album. Everyone assumes since the movie sucked the album

sucked too. The album was good save a couple of mundande tracks.

"Lead The Way" is probably my favorite Mariah ballad of all. Love it! And I love "All My Life," and the Cherelle and Indeep covers. Heck, I even like "If We." But I really, really dislike "Loverboy," and it's too bad that was the lead single. Oh well. All-in-all I think Glitter is a strong effort and one of her better albums. It's got the sad, introspective songs she likes to do, but it's got a fun side too.

paisleypark4 said:

Marlena58 said:

I love Mc's music. Her last album is very underrated. Can't wait to see what she does next

Meh the last two albums were just not hitting it for me. I liked the Christmas album though if that what you were talking about.

Imperfect Angel was very hit or miss. She had some good lyrics..but the Dream produced tracks really did not do much in terms of value. They all kind of sound the same after while.

The Dream is a overrated producer

Marlena58 said:

paisleypark4 said:

Meh the last two albums were just not hitting it for me. I liked the Christmas album though if that what you were talking about.

Imperfect Angel was very hit or miss. She had some good lyrics..but the Dream produced tracks really did not do much in terms of value. They all kind of sound the same after while.

The Dream is a overrated producer

He does well on his own production...songwriting is very hit or miss when it comes to him. He is best when he is experiemental. Her voice and album history joes not fit her style. It made he sound more desperate to sound hip. I thought it would work, but most of the tunes threw her right into hip hop alley. although I did indeed enjoy the album onyl MORE SO than E=MC2, which was a huge fail in my opinion since Charmbracelet.

Betcha Gon Know

HATEU

Candy Bling

Ribbon (its alright)

It's A Wrap (it's alright)

More Than Just Friends

Languishing

Were the tracks I enjoyed most. The rest really slowed it down for being a good album but at least 5 listenable songs on one album is ok. As a whole..meh.

The reunon of Mariah and JD

Always Be My Baby!