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Thread started 09/23/11 8:55am

P2daP

Van Hunt's What Were You Hoping For? out now!

You can now buy a digital copy of Van Hunt's new album on his website www.vanhunt.com

You can also stream the entire album at paste magazine

http://www.pastemagazine....g-for.html

The physical copy of the album will be available anywhere music is still sold on September 27th

I personally LOVE the album. I admit though after my first listen I was thrown off... This isn't your grandma's Van Hunt! What has emerged is more of a "punk-rock" Van Hunt! It's kinda physicadellic punk-rock album w/ soul. So if your looking to hear Van Hunt from his self tittled album or even the one from On The Jungle Floor. This isn't that Van Hunt. But if you been following his career since Jungle Floor and dug Popular this will seem like a natural progression. Like I said I got this album at midnight last night and I LOVE it. My early faves are Watching You Go Crazy is Driving Me Insane, Designer Jeans, Falls (Violet), Cross Dresser, and It's a Mysterious Hustle!

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Reply #1 posted 09/23/11 9:01am

bigd74

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why start 2 different threads on the same subject? confused

She Believed in Fairytales and Princes, He Believed the voices coming from his stereo

If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me?
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Reply #2 posted 09/23/11 9:22am

BlaqueKnight

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I'm listening.

I'll just say this:

Its cool to turn left.

Its even cool to go off road.

Just don't change destination.

There is some nice work on there.

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Reply #3 posted 09/23/11 9:32am

Graycap23

BlaqueKnight said:

I'm listening.

I'll just say this:

Its cool to turn left.

Its even cool to go off road.

Just don't change destination.

There is some nice work on there.

I'n digging it so far.

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Reply #4 posted 09/23/11 11:04am

TrueFunkSoldie
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nice ..

[Edited 9/23/11 11:04am]

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Reply #5 posted 09/23/11 1:42pm

kamsin88

First impression, Van Hunt once said that Popular was his version of Dirty Mind. Musically, What were you hoping for? might be his Black Album? Thoughts?

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Reply #6 posted 09/23/11 3:34pm

duccichucka

Just heard the stream:

Four albums deep, he is a much more interesting songwriter than Prince was.

And no, the loose rock vibe of What Were You Hoping For? does not remind

me of that edgy R&B style on The Black Album, but to each their own, platitudinously.

I don't have the time like I used to have to go over an album theoretically,

but What Were You Hoping For? sounds like Curtis Mayfield covering the

MC5 or the Stooges covering Sly Stone; it's fucking briliant. There's a few

clunkers (I would have inserted "June" in "Violet's" stead) but I appreciate

this guy's artistic efforts, especially in the midst of today's shite.

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Reply #7 posted 09/23/11 4:28pm

wonder505

I like Plum and Mysterious Hustle alot, but the rest...I don't think I wanna hear those songs again and I'm a fan of Van Hunt.

[Edited 9/23/11 16:51pm]

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Reply #8 posted 09/23/11 4:32pm

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kamsin88 said:

First impression, Van Hunt once said that Popular was his version of Dirty Mind. Musically, What were you hoping for? might be his Black Album? Thoughts?

More like his Around The World In A Day.

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Reply #9 posted 09/23/11 8:04pm

Meloh9

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I think he accomplished exactly what he set out for, to sound like Van Hunt. It may take some time to process if people are comparing to his older material or to his influences like Prince, but to me he really sounds original, like himself. That was the goal of this album. Every original work is always a bit of a hybrid, there is nothing new under the sun, we can only mix and match what has been giving to us. Somebody piss him off so he can visit the org, that was fun =)

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Reply #10 posted 09/23/11 8:10pm

PlayboyOrigina
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I just found out that he is an atheist and he writes about it on this new album....... that completely just soured what I thought would be a new artist to enjoy. There is alot of things that I can compromise on and overlook but no belief in God is one that I will NEVER accept.

Stevie Wonder = EARTH
Prince = WIND
Chaka Khan = FIRE
Sade = WATER
the ELEMENTS of MUSIC
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Reply #11 posted 09/23/11 8:49pm

P2daP

PlayboyOriginal said:

I just found out that he is an atheist and he writes about it on this new album....... that completely just soured what I thought would be a new artist to enjoy. There is alot of things that I can compromise on and overlook but no belief in God is one that I will NEVER accept.

That's not true. (as far as I know) and he doesn't mention being athiest on the album. The person who reviewed album... Well i dont' what they heard. I remeber seeing him wearing crosses at his shows back in the day. Even a few days ago I saw him Brooklyn and he ended the show by saying "I love you and God bless you all" He even says something to the degree in the album of "you'll be more ready for the 2nd coming then some so-called belivers". He's never made any public mention of being athiest. He uses the "Lord" in several songs even has a song called "God Moves at Midnight"

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Reply #12 posted 09/23/11 8:58pm

PlayboyOrigina
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P2daP said:

PlayboyOriginal said:

I just found out that he is an atheist and he writes about it on this new album....... that completely just soured what I thought would be a new artist to enjoy. There is alot of things that I can compromise on and overlook but no belief in God is one that I will NEVER accept.

That's not true. (as far as I know) and he doesn't mention being athiest on the album. The person who reviewed album... Well i dont' what they heard. I remeber seeing him wearing crosses at his shows back in the day. Even a few days ago I saw him Brooklyn and he ended the show by saying "I love you and God bless you all" He even says something to the degree in the album of "you'll be more ready for the 2nd coming then some so-called belivers". He's never made any public mention of being athiest. He uses the "Lord" in several songs even has a song called "God Moves at Midnight"

Oh really? I guess you should never believe everything you read online. Thank you for the clarification because I really did enjoy the 2 pre-release songs that came out.

Stevie Wonder = EARTH
Prince = WIND
Chaka Khan = FIRE
Sade = WATER
the ELEMENTS of MUSIC
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Reply #13 posted 09/23/11 10:17pm

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I've said this about other artists and I have to hold Van Hunt to this, too.

I respect any artist who wants to experiment with and explore their craft but for ME PERSONALLY, at the end of it all, there has to be a song I enjoy.

You want to be eccentric? Be eccentric? You want to be dissonant, be dissonant.

You want to make a thrashabilly techno sppedmetal rap album? Go right ahead.

BUT...

If your record doesn't appeal to me, I see no reason to buy it. I'm not saying this is the case with his record but at this point, I am undecided - something I have never been with his previous records.

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Reply #14 posted 09/24/11 12:30am

Fauxie

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BlaqueKnight said:

I've said this about other artists and I have to hold Van Hunt to this, too.

I respect any artist who wants to experiment with and explore their craft but for ME PERSONALLY, at the end of it all, there has to be a song I enjoy.

You want to be eccentric? Be eccentric? You want to be dissonant, be dissonant.

You want to make a thrashabilly techno sppedmetal rap album? Go right ahead.

BUT...

If your record doesn't appeal to me, I see no reason to buy it. I'm not saying this is the case with his record but at this point, I am undecided - something I have never been with his previous records.

Exactly how I feel about it.

MY COUSIN WORKS IN A PHARMACY AND SHE SAID THEY ENEMA'D PRANCE INTO OBLIVION WITH FENTONILS!!
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Reply #15 posted 09/24/11 2:44am

kamsin88

Genre: Concrete / Grime / Grindcore, apt descriptions and I'm digging it!

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Reply #16 posted 09/24/11 4:54am

anc282

PlayboyOriginal said:

P2daP said:

That's not true. (as far as I know) and he doesn't mention being athiest on the album. The person who reviewed album... Well i dont' what they heard. I remeber seeing him wearing crosses at his shows back in the day. Even a few days ago I saw him Brooklyn and he ended the show by saying "I love you and God bless you all" He even says something to the degree in the album of "you'll be more ready for the 2nd coming then some so-called belivers". He's never made any public mention of being athiest. He uses the "Lord" in several songs even has a song called "God Moves at Midnight"

Oh really? I guess you should never believe everything you read online. Thank you for the clarification because I really did enjoy the 2 pre-release songs that came out.

I already spoke about this in the other thread. I also left a comment on that guy's blog. Check it out:

http://prince.org/msg/8/366506

http://according2g.com/2011/08/review-what-were-you-hoping-for-by-van-hunt/

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Reply #17 posted 09/24/11 5:15am

AlexdeParis

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Fauxie said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I've said this about other artists and I have to hold Van Hunt to this, too.

I respect any artist who wants to experiment with and explore their craft but for ME PERSONALLY, at the end of it all, there has to be a song I enjoy.

You want to be eccentric? Be eccentric? You want to be dissonant, be dissonant.

You want to make a thrashabilly techno sppedmetal rap album? Go right ahead.

BUT...

If your record doesn't appeal to me, I see no reason to buy it. I'm not saying this is the case with his record but at this point, I am undecided - something I have never been with his previous records.

Exactly how I feel about it.

I'm not going to co-sign, but I see where y'all are coming from. Listening to the stream, there hasn't been a song I've fallen in love with on first listen (which was the case with the other 3 albums), but I'm definitely leaning towards liking this one. It'll probably take a few spins to really decide, though.

"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #18 posted 09/24/11 5:28am

anc282

P2daP said:

PlayboyOriginal said:

I just found out that he is an atheist and he writes about it on this new album....... that completely just soured what I thought would be a new artist to enjoy. There is alot of things that I can compromise on and overlook but no belief in God is one that I will NEVER accept.

That's not true. (as far as I know) and he doesn't mention being athiest on the album. The person who reviewed album... Well i dont' what they heard. I remeber seeing him wearing crosses at his shows back in the day. Even a few days ago I saw him Brooklyn and he ended the show by saying "I love you and God bless you all" He even says something to the degree in the album of "you'll be more ready for the 2nd coming then some so-called belivers". He's never made any public mention of being athiest. He uses the "Lord" in several songs even has a song called "God Moves at Midnight"

"God Moves At Midnight" features such lyrics as: "I pissed on a flower, watched it die at my feet. Down on my knees, going straight to hell." eek

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Reply #19 posted 09/24/11 6:46am

kamsin88

godless hotspot

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Reply #20 posted 09/24/11 12:21pm

duccichucka

Fauxie said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I've said this about other artists and I have to hold Van Hunt to this, too.

I respect any artist who wants to experiment with and explore their craft but for ME PERSONALLY, at the end of it all, there has to be a song I enjoy.

You want to be eccentric? Be eccentric? You want to be dissonant, be dissonant.

You want to make a thrashabilly techno sppedmetal rap album? Go right ahead.

BUT...

If your record doesn't appeal to me, I see no reason to buy it. I'm not saying this is the case with his record but at this point, I am undecided - something I have never been with his previous records.

Exactly how I feel about it.

Stop listening to the album incorrectly, then.

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Reply #21 posted 09/24/11 12:29pm

duccichucka

kamsin88 said:

godless hotspot

Are you guys really going to focus on whether or not this dude believes that a concept which cannot

possibly be proven true or false is a legitimately held belief or are we going to discuss the merits of the music?...Atheism is just as valid as theism - neither can be proven true or false.

Detach the man and his beliefs, whatever they may be, from the music and discuss: we do it all the time (for example, I do not like assholes and I think Jehovah's Witnessess are scripturally misguided but that doesn't stop me from enjoying Prince.)

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Reply #22 posted 09/24/11 3:10pm

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PlayboyOriginal said:

P2daP said:

That's not true. (as far as I know) and he doesn't mention being athiest on the album. The person who reviewed album... Well i dont' what they heard. I remeber seeing him wearing crosses at his shows back in the day. Even a few days ago I saw him Brooklyn and he ended the show by saying "I love you and God bless you all" He even says something to the degree in the album of "you'll be more ready for the 2nd coming then some so-called belivers". He's never made any public mention of being athiest. He uses the "Lord" in several songs even has a song called "God Moves at Midnight"

Oh really? I guess you should never believe everything you read online. Thank you for the clarification because I really did enjoy the 2 pre-release songs that came out.

If I let an artist's beliefs or actions determine if I like their music or not then I'd have to give up half the albums I own.

I have not listened to the album yet, but the live versions I heard when I saw Van last week sounded appealing in a raw rock club setting.

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Reply #23 posted 09/24/11 3:56pm

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Who the hell cares about his beliefs? It's Van Hunt and he's amazing hmph!

lock

If you will, so will I
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Reply #24 posted 09/24/11 4:20pm

anc282

BlaqueKnight said:

I've said this about other artists and I have to hold Van Hunt to this, too.

I respect any artist who wants to experiment with and explore their craft but for ME PERSONALLY, at the end of it all, there has to be a song I enjoy.

You want to be eccentric? Be eccentric? You want to be dissonant, be dissonant.

You want to make a thrashabilly techno sppedmetal rap album? Go right ahead.

BUT...

If your record doesn't appeal to me, I see no reason to buy it. I'm not saying this is the case with his record but at this point, I am undecided - something I have never been with his previous records.

Just wanted to add that I too was "undecided" after I heard the album for the very first time. However, after the second time there were a couple of songs that I didn't mind: "Plum," "Eyes Like Pearls," "Moving Targets," "It's A Mysterious Hustle." I think it's gonna take a while for this album to grow on me, but that's all right.

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Reply #25 posted 09/24/11 5:22pm

P2daP

thekidsgirl said:

Who the hell cares about his beliefs? It's Van Hunt and he's amazing hmph!

lock

Where is the like button?

P2daP likes this post.

[Edited 9/24/11 17:22pm]

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Reply #26 posted 09/24/11 6:04pm

Fauxie

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duccichucka said:

Fauxie said:

Exactly how I feel about it.

Stop listening to the album incorrectly, then.

lol

Stoopid.

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Reply #27 posted 09/24/11 10:43pm

duccichucka

Fauxie said:

duccichucka said:

Stop listening to the album incorrectly, then.

lol

Stoopid.

You don't have to be a cunt: what I meant by that, if you had only asked, was that Van Hunt

does not subsist on writing catchy pop songs that are immediately accessible. So by listening

to it the way you would a jazz or classical music album, you could have a deeper appreciation

for what was happening musically. You don't approach a jazz album expecting to be taken in by

its accessibility; instead, you prepare yourself to think about what you are hearing.

Complaining that What Were You Hoping For? doesn't have appeal is silly; if it had a whole

bunch of Dusts, Slow Dances, Down Here in Hells, etc, and you still didn't find it appealing, then

your complaint would have merit. Hunt subsists on composition - you're listening to the album incorrectly.

And what is stupid is stating that you would not buy an album that didn't appeal to you: like,

who the hell buys albums because they don't?

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Reply #28 posted 09/24/11 11:53pm

kamsin88

duccichucka said:

kamsin88 said:

godless hotspot

Are you guys really going to focus on whether or not this dude believes that a concept which cannot

possibly be proven true or false is a legitimately held belief or are we going to discuss the merits of the music?...Atheism is just as valid as theism - neither can be proven true or false.

Detach the man and his beliefs, whatever they may be, from the music and discuss: we do it all the time (for example, I do not like assholes and I think Jehovah's Witnessess are scripturally misguided but that doesn't stop me from enjoying Prince.)

I was being sarcastic, I couldn't care less what the man believe in.

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Reply #29 posted 09/25/11 12:38am

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"Such nastiness..." razz lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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