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2011 Year-To-Date U.S. Album Sales 1. 21 ADELE 3,419,261 | |
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i like the Selena Gomez cd "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Go Adele!
The sales are horrible though. | |
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Good music makes me happy. | |
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Album sales is laughable but glad that Adele is number one and has surpassed the overpushed Lady Gaga.
Happy for Bruno Mars
LOL at Beyonce's album | |
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Why do people say the album sales numbers look bad? What were the numbers like "back in the day"? Also, how do artists make money nowadays w/ music often available for free, like spotify and facebook music? This is an honest question - not rhetorical.
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Oh wow! Thanks for info. Have the numbers been this low for while, or just this year? So how do the artists make money nowadays, besides concerts?
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Album sales reached an all time peak in 1999-2001; since 2002 they have been on the decline -- but it's only been in the last three or four years (during the rise of iTunes, and the fall of retail music stores) that albums have been lucky to sell a million stateside. | |
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This is a legitimate question. The music industry has the mentality that it is entitled to our money, just like in the past. The decline is due to the fact that there are more musical options. Those companies that used to make beepers and pagers are also not making the money that they used to, if at all. They have not changed the way they do business but the market has changed. Artist never made the money that they deserved from the record companies. You see a lot of folks on tour now, that is where they get the majority of their money from. The scene has flipped. Before, an artist would tour to promote an album and increase sales. Today, the album is released to get you to come out to the show. | |
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It's pretty amazing that Adele has sold 3.1 million copies of 21 in the U.K as well. Haven't they learned to steal music there yet? | |
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Is it safe to assume that Katy Perry's Teenage Dream sold quite a few copies in 2010 that are not included in the above total? Surely an album featuring five number one singles has cracked one million is sales? | |
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The data relates to 2011 only.
The chart does not include cumulative sales of albums initially released in 2010. Katy Perry and Rihanna have sold over 1M copies of their individual albums, to cite two examples.
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Perry has sold 1.8 million copies of Teenage Dream, according to Soundscan. | |
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So can good artists (good songs, good performers) make more money now than they did under record companies? I do quite feel bad about "stealing" music, getting it for free, musicians have been underappreciated since at least the time of Homer, but then I'd like to know who's losing the money - the "industry" or the musicians.
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Adele's album seems to be the "coffee book" table album this year in the US and UK. Not surprising for UK, but Iam surprised the US has taken to her second album as well as it has.
Personally I find her music abit dull, though I did like "chasing pavements", a song that did little business in the US to my knowledge?
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Awesome sales for Adele
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but disappointing overall. Only five albums managed to go platinum this year so far. 
Having said that, it appears the massive free fall in album sales has sort of reached a bottom, but it's been a huge fall.
Bytheway, Adele's "21" album has gone 10x platinum in the UK (making it in the topsellers all time list in UK). Thats 3 million. And they say UK album sales are down but compared to the US LOL.
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Format problem. See following post.
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Very good question. The way it worked was that a record company was basically a bank. You as an artist receive an advance (loan), in order to "sign" with that company. The company would then provide you with the means to make a product (record). All charges incurred were put on the artist project account and billed to the project. So when an album production cost was $100,000, and the artist received a $50,000 advance, they are on the hook from the start for that 150 large. The record companies also charged the printing cost, travel and promotion expenses to the project. That is how some artist can have hit records with nothing financial to show for it. As we know, most records are not "hits." This leaves the artist in a very precarious situation, as they now owe the record company for the cost of production. In the past, they would tour and promote the album hoping to get enough sales to put them in the black. And if it is a hit, a typical contract may call for a 200% recovery of outlay for the company and a small percentage of net profit points for the artist after that. Which through creative accounting, may never materialize. Back in the 1980's, one of the first artist to buck that trend was MC Hammer. He gets a lot of flack for blowing 23 million in 3 years, but how did he make that money to begin with? He self- produced his first album and sold it direct to the crowds at his shows. He turned down the first few record deals he was offered because he would have had to take a pay cut. At that time James Brown had been on tour for 30 years and never made 23 million in his career, much less a 3 year period.
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He speaks the truth...Now 37 and Now 38, do these comps sell in the US then? i thought it was just a UK thing.
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Thanks. It's a good analogy - record company = bank, with unconscionable "interest rate." But you wrote that MC Hammer sold his record direct to the audience at shows. What happens now when people don't buy records (as the 2011 album sales numbers show). Is the money just from the concert tickets? How much can an artist make after paying venue, promotion, etc. for the concerts? I just want to be educated so I know where my money goes when I spend it.
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Well, others could probably give you more information but the new standard seems to be 360 deals. What this means is that in addition to getting a cut of record sales the lables now get a piece of touring and merchandising revenues. When 360 deals were first introduced they were fairly controversial but I believe that virtually all new acts that sign to a major label are now agreeing to them.
If you want to support your favourite artists you would probably be better off illegally downloading their music and sending them ten dollars to make up for it. | |
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The system is still in place. The record companies are still taking the lions share of the money in the industry. Artist will typically make a touring deal separate from the record companies, or with a better deal than they get for the record sales. That is why you can often see performers from different record companies on the same show. Artist are not really missing that money, because it was never theirs anyway. That is why we see them branching out into different areas. Puffy sells Vodka, Jay Z sells liquor, and Sammy Hagar sells Tequila, and everybody is trying to sell clothing. But the tour is where the rubber meets the road. AC/DC, Bon Jovi, U2 have each come off of massive tours recently that generated hundreds of millions in ticket sales. These guys are pretty much finished selling records in any meaningful way, but are playing to their strengths in the current atmosphere. I give you 2 great examples. Luthor Vandross and Patti Labelle. They had notoriously bad deals with their record companies, but each made millions on tour. | |
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Good job we don't steal as much. The british music industry fund the talent school that Adele came out of.
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So your response is basically, money still goes to companies, not the artist. Except for concert ticket sales? Do they get to keep more of the money from performances? Alright, thanks.
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Yay for Chris Brown, Adele, and Bruno! I didn't realize how popular Nicki's album was though. It was "ok." | |
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