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Reply #30 posted 10/12/11 10:16am

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Nile is the mastermind behind Chic (my fav disco band), Let's Dance, Like a Virgin and the funky era of Duran Duran, and that's something

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Reply #31 posted 10/12/11 11:02am

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thumbs up!

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #32 posted 10/12/11 7:30pm

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I'm driving to L.A. next Tues to see Nile @ at the book signing on Sunset Blvd. I honestly can't wait to see dude. To paraphase the Chic Organzation,"c'est fantastique"!

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Reply #33 posted 10/12/11 8:56pm

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Identity said:

I'm driving to L.A. next Tues to see Nile @ at the book signing on Sunset Blvd. I honestly can't wait to see dude. To paraphase the Chic Organzation,"c'est fantastique"!

Just don't ask him about his hair! If he had to go through chemo, he might still be waiting for it to grow in... The man looks good! Leave his bandana and locks alone! lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #34 posted 10/13/11 6:03am

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Identity said:

I'm driving to L.A. next Tues to see Nile @ at the book signing on Sunset Blvd. I honestly can't wait to see dude. To paraphase the Chic Organzation,"c'est fantastique"!

Just don't ask him about his hair! If he had to go through chemo, he might still be waiting for it to grow in... The man looks good! Leave his bandana and locks alone! lol

spit Identity, I got $20 bucks wit yo name on it if you get GOOD pics that will allow us to properly assess his hair sitchuayshun! geek

Oh, and have fun. lol

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Reply #35 posted 10/13/11 8:06am

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A Hit Maker’s Life and Lyrics

October 2011

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The venerable musician and record producer Nile Rodgers, wearing a bandanna tied around his dreadlocks, fade-out sunglasses and a charcoal-gray pinstripe jacket, arrived at Cafe Luxembourg right on schedule one morning last week.

The original idea was to have breakfast and then walk around the Upper West Side, revisiting landmarks represented in his new memoir, “Le Freak: An Upside Down Story of Family, Disco and Destiny” (Spiegel & Grau). We could have started at the former site of Ungano’s, next door on West 70th Street, where Mr. Rodgers played guitar in 1970 with a jazz-rock band called New World Rising. He was a teenager then, organizing for the Black Panthers and unofficially attending Stuyvesant High School. (He wasn’t enrolled, he explained; he just sat in on classes with teachers he found interesting.)

Then we might have gone down to the site of Studio 54, which inspired his first No. 1 hit, “Le Freak,” in 1978, as the songwriter, guitarist and producer of the funk band Chic, a group that transcended the clichés of the disco era and became influential across styles. You can hear its imprint on hits by Queen, the Clash and Notorious B.I.G., as well as in piles of postpunk bands that sloppily emulated Mr. Rodgers’s rhythm guitar style, cleanly chopping in perfect time.

We’d continue past the Power Station recording studio, now Avatar Studios, at West 53rd Street between 9th and 10th Avenues, where he spent many days producing hit records for Sister Sledge (“We Are Family”), David Bowie (“Let’s Dance”), Madonna (“Like a Virgin”), Diana Ross (“I’m Coming Out”) and Duran Duran (“The Wild Boys”).

But we stayed put. Mr. Rodgers, 59, is a serious talker; leaving the table would have disrupted the flow. Chic valorized the notion of the breakdown — the process whereby instruments strip away from the track one by one, leaving pure rhythm, then pile back in — and like a breakdown in a song he makes his life transparent.

Breakfast became a discourse on a history that has never been well documented: the post-’60s, pre-D.J., nonrock nightclub scene in New York that fed Chic and Mr. Rodgers’s entire conception of music. “We weren’t a disco band,” he said, without rancor. “We’d always have a ballad, always have an instrumental, just like any other R&B band.”

Anyway, he was soon due back at the same location for his next appointment, lunch with Chris Blackwell, the founder of Island Records, now a hotelier, philanthropist and rum producer. “Chris and I used to be really good,” Mr. Rodgers said, a little regretfully. “I don’t know if I tell it clearly in the book, but the last day I did drugs, I was in Chris Blackwell’s hotel, in his suite. I went to Madonna’s birthday party, and that was the first time I had cocaine psychosis.”

Yes, the freakout is in the book — the bender leading up to the party in Miami in 1994; the paranoia; the procuring of a samurai sword for self-protection; etc., etc. — but not the Chris Blackwell part. “This will be the first time I’ve laid eyes on him since I was in that room,” Mr. Rodgers said. “Wow, that’s weird.”

What’s weirder is how Mr. Rodgers went from a chaotic and frequently dangerous childhood to making such gorgeously ordered music. Along with showcasing his rhythm guitar, Chic and its spacious sound also featured the virtuosic bass lines of Bernard Edwards, Mr. Rodgers’s songwriting partner. Chic was also characterized by lush string arrangements and glamorous lyrics sung by five vocalists, including Luther Vandross.

Yet the first third of “Le Freak,” set partly in Los Angeles but mostly in New York, involves severe asthma, a heroin-addicted mother and stepfather nodding off in the living room, a convalescent home with a child-molesting caretaker, and a three-month truancy during second grade spent in movie theaters around Skid Row in Los Angeles. At 8 he spotted his biological father naked and deranged on the roof of a Bleecker Street flophouse in Greenwich Village; at 15 he was sleeping in the New York subways. (At that time his mother was not yet 30.)

“I think that childhood forced me to be a real taskmaster, to be completely organized,” Mr. Rodgers said. “My house is the same way.” He’s not lying: you can see it on his blog, at nilerodgers.com, on which, among other things, he has detailed his recent treatment for prostate cancer.

By his late teens Mr. Rodgers studied the guitar with intensity, playing stints in African, Persian, Latin, jazz and boogaloo bands. One story he left out of the book, strangely enough, was his first encounter with the serious dance-music world, in a nightclub called the Hadar, on Staten Island, around 1974. He was astonished by the crowd’s dedication to dance, and to dressing up. “It was like my mom: beautiful, elegant, organized and disorganized,” he said of the scene.

By 1977, influenced by Mr. Edwards’s songwriting economy with melody and rhythm, as well as by largely instrumental, protodisco records like Hamilton Bohannon’s “Foot Stompin’ Music” and El Coco’s “Let’s Get It Together,” Mr. Rodgers, a former hippie, had become attached to another subculture.

“The cat was a free spirit, and that’s probably a result of the life he had,” the singer Fonzi Thornton said of Mr. Rodgers. Mr. Thornton, a mainstay on Chic records and many of Mr. Rodgers’s later productions, added, “When you grow up having to look out for yourself, you go through a lot of scenes, and you meet a lot of different kinds of people.”

At the point in the book in which Mr. Rodgers’s income soars, you learn much about piloting speedboats with powerful sound systems, party-induced heart stoppage and sexual practices in the women’s bathroom at Studio 54. (And later, recovery, at a rehab center in Connecticut. Mr. Rodgers, who lives with his girlfriend Nancy Hunt in Westport, Conn., and on the Upper West Side, said he has been drug and alcohol free since that Madonna party 17 years ago.)

In and around and between there is much about the science and business of music. Mr. Rodgers is equally interested in harmonic theory, groove and coldblooded hit making. He is a composer-arranger first, and a jazz musician deep down. But he is fascinated by the marketplace and formulas for pop, even if his own golden touch began to fade in the ’90s. (Among his recent productions are soundtracks for video games, including Halo.)

In 2004, inspired by what the musical “Mamma Mia!” did for Abba’s back catalog, Mr. Rodgers imagined a Broadway show featuring his own songs, and those he produced, as the backbone, a kind of index of pop in the second half of the 20th century, moving through various cultural movements, cutting across race and class and sexual identity. It didn’t happen, but Mr. Rodgers had already framed the narrative and found the connective threads to his own story, which became the memoir.

In a typical scene from “Le Freak” he finds himself in the men’s room of a Hell’s Kitchen bar, surrounded by transvestite Diana Ross look-alikes; he wonders about the possibilities of a song that capitalizes on Ms. Ross’s gay audience. That song would become “I’m Coming Out.”

Asked whether writing the book forced him to seize on moments that he might otherwise have passed over he looked incredulous. “Man, ‘I’m Coming Out’ is one of the best songs I’ve ever written,” he said. “You don’t forget how you thought of that.”

He reflected a bit. “Now here’s the only part of the story I don’t know for sure,” he said. “I thought there were at least five Diana Ross impersonators in the bathroom, which seems like a large number, unless they were having a special theme night there.”

http://www.nytimes.com/20...gewanted=1


[Edited 10/20/11 10:58am]

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Reply #36 posted 10/25/11 2:37pm

Identity

Nile will appear on Tavis Smiley Show tonight, Oct 25. Check local listings.

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Reply #37 posted 10/26/11 5:36am

SoulAlive

just ordered my copy biggrin

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Reply #38 posted 10/26/11 5:50am

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Im currently reading his memoir it is a page turner especially his childhood.

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Reply #39 posted 10/26/11 11:25am

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October 26, 2011

Guitarist and producer Nile Rodgers' impressive and astounding musical credits reads like a history of popular music. In the mid '70s, with the late Bernard Edwards, Rodgers founded Chic, the great R&B/funk band who had a string of smash hits during the disco era, such as 'Le Freak,' 'I Want Your Love' and 'Good Times'; both he and Edwards also wrote and produced the hits 'We are Family' for Sister Sledge and 'I'm Coming Out' and 'Upside Down' for Diana Ross.

After Chic's career wound down in the early '80s, Rodgers became a superstar producer and has worked with numerous acts including David Bowie, Madonna, Duran Duran, the B-52s, the Thompson Twins, the Vaughan Brothers and Mick Jagger.

Rodgers' recently published memoir, 'Le Freak,' talks about his musical achievements, but it only tells a part of his life story. Like his biological father, Rodgers success as a producer was accompanied by a serious drug addiction. When it got out of control in the early '90s, Rodgers went into rehab and has since become clean and sober for almost 20 years. But then, in October 2010, he revealed he was battling another obstacle: An "aggressive" form of prostate cancer.

In this interview with Spinner, Rodgers talks about the origins of Chic. working with Bowie, Madonna and Duran Duran, the cocaine-fueled moment that turned him around and his cancer treatment.


How are you feeling since your cancer surgery?

It's up and down, in and out. It's really weird for me. There's no straight line to recovery and healing. Especially for the first five years, it's sort of an up and down rollercoaster. Right now, you caught me in the middle of a cycle where I had a test a week or a two ago and I haven't gotten the results yet. It's a weird period.

Was the book already in the works when the cancer happened?

You won't believe this. I handed in the book -- it was done. Two days later I get a phone call from my doctor -- I'm on my way to Rome to do a concert. And he tells me to sit down. I said, "I can't sit down I'm late." "You got to sit down because you have very aggressive cancer and we need to discuss your options." It freaked me out but I caught the plane, went to Rome, played a great show and came home and said, "Now what were you saying, doc?"

I'm pretty optimistic. You just don't feel great, especially when you're waiting for test results. Not knowing in a way, that sort of it stinks, but it's easier not knowing because you can project anything you want. And typically I project something really great.

In 'Le Freak,' you talk about growing up with a hip mother and stepfather and your childhood shuttling between New York City and Los Angeles. How much did your family background influence the way you lived the rest of your life?

They absolutely influenced the way that I live my life. The good part of it was that my parents were very open-minded [and] super intellectual. They could see any subject from any point of view, so we can talk, talk, talk. So it was a great environment, but in another ways it was also sad because I was a loner. I was rarely around other kids. So I gravitated towards adults and adult-types of teachings and adult types of entertainment. I loved being into Nina Simone, Clifford Brown, Max Roach and bebop. I liked the fact that we had this sort of hip house.

Your biological father had a profound influence on you, and the parts in the book that mention him are pretty heartbreaking to read.

My biological father was amazing. But he was really strung out on heroin and he was really strung out on love with my mother. My mother just didn't love him. She really liked him a lot because he was a really nice guy and he was generous as he could possibly be with me and everybody else.

Flash forward to when you were in your teens and met Bernard Edwards before Chic happened. What were your early impressions of him?

We met on the telephone [and] we didn't get along at all. In fact he told me to lose his number and to never call him again. And then we met accidentally on a pickup gig, not realizing that we were the same people who had spoken months earlier. When we met at the pickup gig, it was musical love at first sight because he and I were two totally different types of people. I was a complete hippie, skintight jeans with the embroidery and big platform shoes; Bernard was a total R&B guy, dressed very conservatively.

Bernard was a genius. He had this musicality that was just infused in his bone and his whole persona, his whole being. He was able to sort of reel me in and say, "Hey man, with your knowledge, you could be one of the most commercial guys in the world, because not many people know what you know. Now let's put that into practice in a way that the masses can consume it." That's what made our partnership so unique, was because like with any artists, the genius is never in the writing, it's always in the rewriting. So I would give him so much stuff that he'd always say to me me, "Man you got 10 records in here."


Roxy Music and Kiss played a role in the development of Chic. Can you explain how that came to be?

I go see Roxy Music and coincidentally they were playing at a place called the Roxy in London. It was the most sophisticated, slick, atmospheric, textural rock 'n' roll that I had ever seen. I remember saying it to Bernard that I had seen a completely immersive artistic experience. I'm like, "Roxy Music, they got this thing, they have chicks on the cover and they're dressed up in high fashion outfits and costumes and it was all hip." I flew home a few days later and we started to put together this concept. We didn't' know what it was going to be, but we needed a starting point. So we started with Roxy Music.

When we hired our keyboard player Rob Sabino, he was good friends with Ace Frehley from Kiss, and this was before Kiss blew up. We would go to these different nightclubs around New York in the early punk scene. We'd see different bands and the one band that was more outstanding than any of the other bands were Kiss. We just thought it was so amazing that they were so anonymous off stage, and on stage they were so recognizable and identifiable. We thought, "Let's mix that with Roxy Music and do it as a black band." We started to dump it out on the table and it looked like this thing called Chic and we just started to cast it.

You later produced David Bowie's 1983 album 'Let's Dance.' It was a partnership that was mutually beneficial: It gave him hit singles and you recovered from a string of less-successful Chic albums.

After 'Good Times,' Chic never had another hit. Even though Atlantic let us finish all the albums on our contract -- that means we did four more albums -- all were flops. Then I meet David Bowie at an after-hours club and we talk and just hit it off. We convinced each other that we were supposed to be working together. He came to my apartment and listened to my solo record, which was a total flop, but he thought it was amazing. And like they say, the rest is history. We worked hard on 'Let's Dance' before we recorded a record. We didn't even write music, we just talked concept. David is a great conceptual guy. And being around him was like being around my parents. They can talk in these abstract terms and you know exactly what they were talking about.

Before you later worked with Madonna on the 'Like a Virgin' album, you first saw her perform as the opening act for Jenny Burton at the Roxy in New York in 1983. As you write in the book, at the time you were intrigued about Madonna but didn't know what to make of her. What turned you around?

Madonna herself. I have never met anyone in my lif -- and this is an absolute statement, so it's almost science -- that was more certain that they were gonna make it and spend more energy devoted to making it than Madonna ever in my life. And I've been around superstars. Nobody under the sun was like Madonna. She was positive and clear and wholly dedicated to achieving everything that she's achieved. And I thought I was positive, I thought that I knew what I wanted to do.

You produced Duran Duran's remix of 'The Reflex,' 'The Wild Boys' and the 'Notorious' album. What was it like working with them?

I love Duran Duran. I think that we were the right paring -- it was the right thing at the right time. I don't like to overly take credit for anything, but since they said it first ... When we did 'Notorious' [and] when the two other Taylors [Roger and Andy] left, that's a heavy blow to a band at the top of their career. I think I was the glue that held that together. I used to say to the guys, "People don't realize how great you are because you're still like this boy band and the girls are still talking about your looks, and the music becomes sort of an added bonus. Now it's time to go in the direction where you can become more like a U2 that's really classic and solid artistically. You got to build that foundation and let's take the fans along with us." And that's what the 'Notorious' album was supposed to do.

You had serious drug addiction throughout the years. At one time in Miami, around Madonna' 36th birthday party, you went through a cocaine psychosis because there was a contract out on your life. You write in the book that you armed yourself with a samurai sword and a .45 automatic for protection.

I was on a three-day bender. I hadn't slept at all. By the time I got to Madonna's [party] the next night, I was completely out of control. I was absolutely the last person to leave Madonna's house. [My friends] were carrying me to the Marlin Hotel on South Beach and I slept for about an hour or so. When I woke up, I had my first and only bout of cocaine psychosis. I called my home in New York and heard my answering machine tell me clearly that there was a contract out on my life. Then I went into in this crazy downward spiral for the next two to three hours. I really don't know how long it was, but it felt like an eternity. I was actually hearing voices that were whispering in my ear and they were clear as a bell.

That incident and finding out about Keith Richards' decision to get help for his substance abuse problem convinced you to get treatment.

I was so afraid, I didn't know what to do. I was calling people to come down and rescue me -- a bunch of private detectives I knew who were ex-homicide cops. While I was waiting, I read an article in some magazine where Keith Richards was talking about how he was going to give up drugs because music was more important to him than drugs. I went into rehab and I gave it up. That was more than 17 years ago and I never had another drink or drug since.

Along with the book, are you working on any other projects?

My life is as artistically exciting as it's ever been. You know how when you're writing you get in a zone? I've been in a zone for quite a while now. I've been working on a Broadway show for about the last five years. And notice I call it a Broadway show, even though it's not on Broadway, just because I focus on the end game. We're in the process of being picked up -- we haven't signed the contract yet, so I don't want to make something go wrong.

[The] Alabama Shakespeare Festival, where we put up the work in a sort of workshop/reading form this past summer, we got a 20-minute standing ovation. So they're in the process of picking up our option and becoming our partners in this Broadway musical that I have composed called 'Double Time.' It's about a guy named Leonard Harper, who was the first and only African American to bring the Harlem Renaissance revue to Broadway in 1929.

Chic have been nominated several times to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame but have yet to be inducted. What are your thoughts on that and do you think you'll get in?

Of course. In my opinion, when we were coming up, it was all rock 'n' roll. In other words, rock 'n' roll was the classification of all of this kind of contemporary pop music and you just figure out what type of rock 'n' roll it was. We weren't doing show music, we weren't doing classical music. We weren't even doing jazz. We were doing this pop thing that was under this broad banner of rock 'n' roll.

We're a funk/R&B band, we're a groove band that other people happened to like and gravitate towards. We were being very opportunistic because we saw that in the discos, they would play music by jazz musicians -- all you had to do was have a great groove. These guys figured out how to get in and so that's what we were. We were these jazz fusion instrumentalists who learned how to write songs.

http://www.spinner.com/20...ncer-book/

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Reply #40 posted 10/27/11 10:34pm

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I'm about to start reading my copy Friday, I should done by next friday, I'm a SLOW reader biggrin

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Reply #41 posted 10/27/11 10:57pm

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He was recently on the Tavis Smiley Show and i must admit, he impressed me a lot. He seems very down to earth and man,he's been thru some s*** ! I gotta read his book.

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #42 posted 10/28/11 9:04am

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10:02 am
Awesome. I love the who, when, and where methadone dialog. It shows a certain sense of style. I'm impressed by the quality of readers of the NY Times. (Oh happy day.)
When I read Bob Dylan's Chronicles I was certain he'd gotten a few things wrong because he was talking about places that I knew like the back of my hand. He's a wee bit older than me and he'd known some of the original locations of places. Turns out he was correct in every case - and I so wanted to one-up Bob Dylan.

My mother was very candid as to how they procured their drugs. They were on the leading edge of the dope scene. I've learned to never underestimate the craftiness of a dope fiend. I'm very giddy that your discussing this. Thanks.
This is his reaction to a discussion board talking about his book. The NY Times excerpt of his book made me very giddy reading it. I may have to go out and get this one.
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Reply #43 posted 10/29/11 9:12am

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Thanks for the thread man. Seen a write up in the Times last week. Going to check it out.

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Reply #44 posted 11/01/11 5:04am

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I happened to come across it at the local B&N and like an earlier poster said, it is a real page turner. I browsed thru some of the sections dealing with Diana Ross, Duran Duran, the death of Bernard Edwards, and working with Madonna. Especially Madonna, "Time is money and the money is mine!"

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Reply #45 posted 11/01/11 3:39pm

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Great fun book. Read it in one sitting. I had no idea Nile had produced records for so many people. And the chapter on working with Madonna on Like A Virgin was fantasic.

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"...literal people are scary, man
literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
while getting it wrong fundamentally
down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco
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