I am confused Between ironic comments (which are very funny) and statements from people who seem 2 believe that they were living inside Janet's vagina back then (2 really know what was happening down there)...I don't know what 2 believe
Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
If you can't be nice to someone on the net, you probably ain't worth much talking to in real life either.
Like I said before,it's time for Janet to become more aggressive in dealing with this.She needs to file a lawsuit against Etterlene.Send a strong message! I know she doesn't want to sue her ex-mother in law but sometimes,you gotta go to extreme measures.Otherwise,Etterlene will keep spreading these lies every few years.She's proven to be a publicity-hungry opportunist.
Don't understand why this rumor just won't go away after over 25 years. Why would Janet hide a child? That doesn't make sense. Maybe she should just go on and have one, to stop this rumor resurfacing again & again.
Because it would totally go against her good girl, squeaky clean image.
I am not saying that I agree that this young man is their (James and Janet's) child, but it's possible that there may be a child out there somewhere. Think about it, Janet got married twice and no one was the wiser until both marriage were exposed. That means that Janet (The Jacksons as a whole) are pros at keeping secrets. James' own family didn't know that he was married.
My theory is....a child would have gotten in the way of her career ambitions.She was on the 'Fame' TV show at the time and was working on her 'Dream Street' album.Being a mother would have slowed her down tremendously.
Janet won't do anything for the same reason Michael didn't. The minute they stop talking about you, it's not a good sign.
litigtion in the states is extremely expensive. moreover, during the discovery process, etterlene can ask janet all sorts of questions about her private life which then becomes public information. no one cares about etterlene, but they do care about being in janet's business. for the record, mj did go after those former employees that lied about them on tv, got a judgement, but i'll bet most people never knew about that. so what was the point for him? it wasn't about all publicity being 'good' or the gossip keeping his, or janet's name in this case, in the public for sake of being talked about. the fact is, there is no point of any public figure goint to court to 'win', because you don't 'win' anything. etterlene would be 'flattered' that janet deigned to acknowledge her.
^ especially if there IS a child. Maybe not this one or even one that died at birth. But you brought up a good point. If there is ANY kernel of truth to this rumor, going to court will bring light to it.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
^ especially if there IS a child. Maybe not this one or even one that died at birth. But you brought up a good point. If there is ANY kernel of truth to this rumor, going to court will bring light to it.
I am not saying that I agree that this young man is their (James and Janet's) child, but it's possible that there may be a child out there somewhere. Think about it, Janet got married twice and no one was the wiser until both marriage were exposed. That means that Janet (The Jacksons as a whole) are pros at keeping secrets. James' own family didn't know that he was married.
they really are pros at keeping secrets They often try to play games and manipulate the media.Michael was a master at this.
will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P.
This is Crazy first these fools had everyone believing Janet had A Daughter named "Renee" & that the Child was 18 & she was Raised by one of Janet's Brothers Or Sister Rebbie & People Jump on that Bandwagon & started thrown up Jackie's ( Daughter ) Brandi as the kid even though Brandi was born years before in 1982 now their trying to claim its A Son & Its Omer Bhatti .
My thing is why is Etterlene running to the Tabloids blowing James & Janets Smoke into the Media Why not have James do it & why is The Family agreeing with their Mother & On Facebook she posted Pictures of One of her Grandsons & Omer & I noticed She lost A Few Friends mainly because All of this Do not make any sence at all of why they Suddenly want to Change their Story from it been A Daughter to now its A Son & its the Boy that Michael had at Neverland & He called Mike Dad & Joe & Family claims as Michael's Secret Son .
& also Etterlene's Claims of Janet traveling to Europe Don't sound right neither once you start thinking If Janet was 8 or 9 months Pregnant Many Doctors usually tell their patience they can not Fly on any airplanes or Aircrafts due to risk of early labor I believe thats why many Dr's of Pregnant woman tell them . So in all her claims of this girl jumping up on A Airplane & flying to another country to have A Baby doesn't sound especially if Janet was in her last stage of Pregnancy which are 8 to 9 months she would be risking her health & her unborn baby's health & what woman would risk going into early labor & possibly having A Child early who could possibly be born with Special needs .
What I do see happening Is that Janet & The Family going to Vegas & her having the Baby in Vegas & staying in Vegas until she was well enough to return home to Cali & then went back to California after she had the Baby & Gave it up .
Some people are like well If she gave A Baby up for Adoption The Media would had found out , Maybe thats true but their is A way to not have your name on any Documents & who to say Janet even used her name on the Documents plus Janet was 18 at the time so her Family could had used her age to have someone else older to step in & sign the baby's Birth Certificate & Birth documents claiming Janet was to Young to sign them plus this was in the late 80's & some of those Adoption agencies have closed Or changed named so it would be hard to try to track down A Jackkson/DeBarge Baby if all Documents aren't signed by Janet & Adoption Agency has closed & Name has changed & Doctors can retire Or die within those 25 or 26 years time frame . so in all words Its possible she did Have A Baby & that Baby does exist but isn't track or Tracable due to Some serious control damage .
This is Crazy first these fools had everyone believing Janet had A Daughter named "Renee" & that the Child was 18 & she was Raised by one of Janet's Brothers Or Sister Rebbie & People Jump on that Bandwagon & started thrown up Jackie's ( Daughter ) Brandi as the kid even though Brandi was born years before in 1982 now their trying to claim its A Son & Its Omer Bhatti .
My thing is why is Etterlene running to the Tabloids blowing James & Janets Smoke into the Media Why not have James do it & why is The Family agreeing with their Mother & On Facebook she posted Pictures of One of her Grandsons & Omer & I noticed She lost A Few Friends mainly because All of this Do not make any sence at all of why they Suddenly want to Change their Story from it been A Daughter to now its A Son & its the Boy that Michael had at Neverland & He called Mike Dad & Joe & Family claims as Michael's Secret Son .
& also Etterlene's Claims of Janet traveling to Europe Don't sound right neither once you start thinking If Janet was 8 or 9 months Pregnant Many Doctors usually tell their patience they can not Fly on any airplanes or Aircrafts due to risk of early labor I believe thats why many Dr's of Pregnant woman tell them . So in all her claims of this girl jumping up on A Airplane & flying to another country to have A Baby doesn't sound especially if Janet was in her last stage of Pregnancy which are 8 to 9 months she would be risking her health & her unborn baby's health & what woman would risk going into early labor & possibly having A Child early who could possibly be born with Special needs .
What I do see happening Is that Janet & The Family going to Vegas & her having the Baby in Vegas & staying in Vegas until she was well enough to return home to Cali & then went back to California after she had the Baby & Gave it up .
Some people are like well If she gave A Baby up for Adoption The Media would had found out , Maybe thats true but their is A way to not have your name on any Documents & who to say Janet even used her name on the Documents plus Janet was 18 at the time so her Family could had used her age to have someone else older to step in & sign the baby's Birth Certificate & Birth documents claiming Janet was to Young to sign them plus this was in the late 80's & some of those Adoption agencies have closed Or changed named so it would be hard to try to track down A Jackkson/DeBarge Baby if all Documents aren't signed by Janet & Adoption Agency has closed & Name has changed & Doctors can retire Or die within those 25 or 26 years time frame . so in all words Its possible she did Have A Baby & that Baby does exist but isn't track or Tracable due to Some serious control damage .
Like a professional "cleaner"?
Could be, but I just don't see the Jacksons giving away a Jackson to total strangers. I would believe this more if it was Rebbie raising the baby, or the baby going with father.
And as far as why James would not be the one to tell the tabloids.. maybe a divorce settlement had stipulations of confidentiality. I have always thought that.
I don't believe this boy is Janet's. He doesn't even look like the Jackson. Trust, people will compare this boy to Janet and Michael POST SURGERY alterations. That is not an authentic Jackson nose. The Jackson have all had surgery for so long that people have forgotten what an authetic Jackson nose looks like.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
This is Crazy first these fools had everyone believing Janet had A Daughter named "Renee" & that the Child was 18 & she was Raised by one of Janet's Brothers Or Sister Rebbie & People Jump on that Bandwagon & started thrown up Jackie's ( Daughter ) Brandi as the kid even though Brandi was born years before in 1982 now their trying to claim its A Son & Its Omer Bhatti .
My thing is why is Etterlene running to the Tabloids blowing James & Janets Smoke into the Media Why not have James do it & why is The Family agreeing with their Mother & On Facebook she posted Pictures of One of her Grandsons & Omer & I noticed She lost A Few Friends mainly because All of this Do not make any sence at all of why they Suddenly want to Change their Story from it been A Daughter to now its A Son & its the Boy that Michael had at Neverland & He called Mike Dad & Joe & Family claims as Michael's Secret Son .
& also Etterlene's Claims of Janet traveling to Europe Don't sound right neither once you start thinking If Janet was 8 or 9 months Pregnant Many Doctors usually tell their patience they can not Fly on any airplanes or Aircrafts due to risk of early labor I believe thats why many Dr's of Pregnant woman tell them . So in all her claims of this girl jumping up on A Airplane & flying to another country to have A Baby doesn't sound especially if Janet was in her last stage of Pregnancy which are 8 to 9 months she would be risking her health & her unborn baby's health & what woman would risk going into early labor & possibly having A Child early who could possibly be born with Special needs .
What I do see happening Is that Janet & The Family going to Vegas & her having the Baby in Vegas & staying in Vegas until she was well enough to return home to Cali & then went back to California after she had the Baby & Gave it up .
Some people are like well If she gave A Baby up for Adoption The Media would had found out , Maybe thats true but their is A way to not have your name on any Documents & who to say Janet even used her name on the Documents plus Janet was 18 at the time so her Family could had used her age to have someone else older to step in & sign the baby's Birth Certificate & Birth documents claiming Janet was to Young to sign them plus this was in the late 80's & some of those Adoption agencies have closed Or changed named so it would be hard to try to track down A Jackkson/DeBarge Baby if all Documents aren't signed by Janet & Adoption Agency has closed & Name has changed & Doctors can retire Or die within those 25 or 26 years time frame . so in all words Its possible she did Have A Baby & that Baby does exist but isn't track or Tracable due to Some serious control damage .
Like a professional "cleaner"? Could be, but I just don't see the Jacksons giving away a Jackson to total strangers. I would believe this more if it was Rebbie raising the baby, or the baby going with father. And as far as why James would not be the one to tell the tabloids.. maybe a divorce settlement had stipulations of confidentiality. I have always thought that. I don't believe this boy is Janet's. He doesn't even look like the Jackson. Trust, people will compare this boy to Janet and Michael POST SURGERY alterations. That is not an authentic Jackson nose. The Jackson have all had surgery for so long that people have forgotten what an authetic Jackson nose looks like.
How about Family Friends Now I can see Them Having A Family that are close to the Jacksons to Take the Baby If indeed Janet didn't want Family to have him/or her But both Families staid in Contacts & the Child has been living with another Family but both Families & Janet possibly keep in Contact . I can actually see this done because how can you explain of why no one has yet to place any of the Jackson children w/Janet besides her Niece Brandi which everyone later has found out Brandi isn't the kid & that she was born in 1982 . Other then that The Media has yet to find any Birth Record on A existing Jackson/DeBarge child that's living within The Family & that would be very easy to find since everyones Kids are at Katherine's Living or staying & The Media has yet to even find one kid that they have A Birth trail on That Belongs to Janet & James thats why I said The Child had to be put up for adoption to A totally different Family & under A totally Diffrent Name & isn't around The Jacksons or else The Media would had Found out about the Child long time ago & the DeBarge's wouldn't be still searching for A Kid & They wouldn't be still putting out these Rumors & Now Putting out rumors Of Other peoples Kids been the Kid ........LOL not Funny I kinda actually feel Sorry for James , But I have A feeling that The Kid Isn't within the Family I bet once the Smoke clears This Kid isn't even with the Family at all after you think a baby been raised within the family would had been already found The media would had Digged into some of the kids , But then again the Media hasn't digged deep into this Story so Maybe you could be right But I'm looking at it from A point of view that If Rebbie Or anyone within that Family toke the Baby you would think the Media would had found out by now . & the only Child that Looks like it Could pass Or be A DeBarge is Jackie's Daughter Brandi Jackson she looks like James when he was A Young little Boy If yu go & get A picture Of James as A Young little Boy & Compare it to Brandi's Picture's as she's gotten Older Her & James look Very much a like however she was born in 1982 .
Why exactly is it so difficult to imagine a woman not having a child?
Maybe she just never had kids, like LaToya (thank god), a woman can be a woman without having kids... please...
Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
If you can't be nice to someone on the net, you probably ain't worth much talking to in real life either.
Like I said before,it's time for Janet to become more aggressive in dealing with this.She needs to file a lawsuit against Etterlene.Send a strong message! I know she doesn't want to sue her ex-mother in law but sometimes,you gotta go to extreme measures.Otherwise,Etterlene will keep spreading these lies every few years.She's proven to be a publicity-hungry opportunist.
I Have to Agree Janet needs to step in & File Legal Action On James's Family To stop them from doing this every 3 to 4 years i mean they have No Proof other then The Mother claiming to have saw Janet Pregnant & who to say she even was Pregnant Or that She even had the baby if indeed she was pregnant cause things can & could have happened She could had a abortion or the Baby was stillborn Or she Miscarried Or she was Just Big from Birth Control as Janet claims in her book .
& Them changing their Story each time they Come out with these Claims of A Jackson/DeBarge Child The Stories get Unbelievable ,Uncreditable,& Bizzare It has Bizzarely went From Janet & James having A Daughter Named "Renee" to Now Its A son & its Omer Bhatti ..........LOL .
next They'll have Janet having 8 Kids & been the Next Jon & Kate Plus 8 .............LMAO & hell at the rate their going I wouldn't be Surprised if they Came back out 3 or 4 Years from now with Claims of Janet having 8 children with James & they're all were put up for adoption ..............LMAO
i was in the food 4 less in hawthorne b/c my friend wanted to pick up some muscato. (btw, in her opinion, barefoot is the best, gallo sucks, and she'll let me know about sutter home - they were out of barefoot.)
so we get up to the check out, and that damn national enquirer story is staring us in the face. my friend begins to comment on it, when the guy in front of us turns around to explain that that boy is not janet's, that janet has a daughter that's been raised by rebbie, and who wants nothing to do w/janet at this point.
he was a 50-ish filipino dude. i just wasn't expecting that.
i was thinking to myself, 'damn, this rumor has legs!' every damn body and their mama has heard this story!!
i was in the food 4 less in hawthorne b/c my friend wanted to pick up some muscato. (btw, in her opinion, barefoot is the best, gallo sucks, and she'll let me know about sutter home - they were out of barefoot.)
so we get up to the check out, and that damn national enquirer story is staring us in the face. my friend begins to comment on it, when the guy in front of us turns around to explain that that boy is not janet's, that janet has a daughter that's been raised by rebbie, and who wants nothing to do w/janet at this point.
he was a 50-ish filipino dude. i just wasn't expecting that.
i was thinking to myself, 'damn, this rumor has legs!' every damn body and their mama has heard this story!!
Why exactly is it so difficult to imagine a woman not having a child?
Maybe she just never had kids, like LaToya (thank god), a woman can be a woman without having kids... please...
Because NOT ONCE did anyone (any magazine or newspaper rag or legitimate) EVER wrote a story that Latoya was in the family way.
There was WIDE SPREAD reports of Janet being VISIBLY pregnant during her marriage to James Debarge.
Maybe you haven't been a fan back in those days... maybe you are not old enough.... but there are SEVERAL people stating the same thing.... they read stories in legititmate papers... (not National Enquirer we are talking about Jet magazine and in my case the TOLEDO freakin BLADE that reported just that.
You just can't deal with that small little issue.... That is just IGNORED because it can not be explained.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
Because NOT ONCE did anyone (any magazine or newspaper rag or legitimate) EVER wrote a story that Latoya was in the family way.
There was WIDE SPREAD reports of Janet being VISIBLY pregnant during her marriage to James Debarge.
Maybe you haven't been a fan back in those days... maybe you are not old enough.... but there are SEVERAL people stating the same thing.... they read stories in legititmate papers... (not National Enquirer we are talking about Jet magazine and in my case the TOLEDO freakin BLADE that reported just that.
You just can't deal with that small little issue.... That is just IGNORED because it can not be explained.
Janet always had issue with her weight.. so do you also think, based on what you just stated from my previous post, that couple of years ago when she was at 183 pounds, it was because she had another baby? Or this time she was really just overweight?
prodigalfan said:
but there are SEVERAL people stating the same thing....
Since when 'several people' saying something about a Jackson means something?
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Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
If you can't be nice to someone on the net, you probably ain't worth much talking to in real life either.
i was in the food 4 less in hawthorne b/c my friend wanted to pick up some muscato. (btw, in her opinion, barefoot is the best, gallo sucks, and she'll let me know about sutter home - they were out of barefoot.)
so we get up to the check out, and that damn national enquirer story is staring us in the face. my friend begins to comment on it, when the guy in front of us turns around to explain that that boy is not janet's, that janet has a daughter that's been raised by rebbie, and who wants nothing to do w/janet at this point.
he was a 50-ish filipino dude. i just wasn't expecting that.
i was thinking to myself, 'damn, this rumor has legs!' every damn body and their mama has heard this story!!
LOL...this rumor won't ever die In a few years,we'll hear yet another variation of this story posted on the tabloids,lol.
i was in the food 4 less in hawthorne b/c my friend wanted to pick up some muscato. (btw, in her opinion, barefoot is the best, gallo sucks, and she'll let me know about sutter home - they were out of barefoot.)
so we get up to the check out, and that damn national enquirer story is staring us in the face. my friend begins to comment on it, when the guy in front of us turns around to explain that that boy is not janet's, that janet has a daughter that's been raised by rebbie, and who wants nothing to do w/janet at this point.
he was a 50-ish filipino dude. i just wasn't expecting that.
i was thinking to myself, 'damn, this rumor has legs!' every damn body and their mama has heard this story!!
LOL...this rumor won't ever die In a few years,we'll hear yet another variation of this story posted on the tabloids,lol.
Janet could be in her 60s and people still saying that a 30-year-old woman looks like her and "that might be her daughter, she was in Rebbie's closet".
Like I said before,it's time for Janet to become more aggressive in dealing with this.She needs to file a lawsuit against Etterlene.Send a strong message! I know she doesn't want to sue her ex-mother in law but sometimes,you gotta go to extreme measures.Otherwise,Etterlene will keep spreading these lies every few years.She's proven to be a publicity-hungry opportunist.
I Have to Agree Janet needs to step in & File Legal Action On James's Family To stop them from doing this every 3 to 4 years i mean they have No Proof other then The Mother claiming to have saw Janet Pregnant & who to say she even was Pregnant Or that She even had the baby if indeed she was pregnant cause things can & could have happened She could had a abortion or the Baby was stillborn Or she Miscarried Or she was Just Big from Birth Control as Janet claims in her book .
& Them changing their Story each time they Come out with these Claims of A Jackson/DeBarge Child The Stories get Unbelievable ,Uncreditable,& Bizzare It has Bizzarely went From Janet & James having A Daughter Named "Renee" to Now Its A son & its Omer Bhatti ..........LOL .
next They'll have Janet having 8 Kids & been the Next Jon & Kate Plus 8 .............LMAO & hell at the rate their going I wouldn't be Surprised if they Came back out 3 or 4 Years from now with Claims of Janet having 8 children with James & they're all were put up for adoption ..............LMAO
I should clarify....Janet should only file a lawsuit IF there really is no child.Otherwise,the truth could come out in a messy court case.
LOL...this rumor won't ever die In a few years,we'll hear yet another variation of this story posted on the tabloids,lol.
Janet could be in her 60s and people still saying that a 30-year-old woman looks like her and "that might be her daughter, she was in Rebbie's closet".
I Have to Agree Janet needs to step in & File Legal Action On James's Family To stop them from doing this every 3 to 4 years i mean they have No Proof other then The Mother claiming to have saw Janet Pregnant & who to say she even was Pregnant Or that She even had the baby if indeed she was pregnant cause things can & could have happened She could had a abortion or the Baby was stillborn Or she Miscarried Or she was Just Big from Birth Control as Janet claims in her book .
& Them changing their Story each time they Come out with these Claims of A Jackson/DeBarge Child The Stories get Unbelievable ,Uncreditable,& Bizzare It has Bizzarely went From Janet & James having A Daughter Named "Renee" to Now Its A son & its Omer Bhatti ..........LOL .
next They'll have Janet having 8 Kids & been the Next Jon & Kate Plus 8 .............LMAO & hell at the rate their going I wouldn't be Surprised if they Came back out 3 or 4 Years from now with Claims of Janet having 8 children with James & they're all were put up for adoption ..............LMAO
I should clarify....Janet should only file a lawsuit IF there really is no child.Otherwise,the truth could come out in a messy court case.
Sorry I Forgot to Clarify That in my Previous post . Yes she surely would have A good case to go on If indeed Theres no child , But thats were its getting Wierd cause Janet claims theres No Kid But yet Hasn't File Legal action against The DeBarge Family for Slandering which Kinda makes you wonder rather if theres A Kid Or Janet could be Just not into Filing Legal action due to it been to much Time , but if it was me I would had File A case in 2005 when James's Brother Darell "Young" DeBarge went out & Claimed It was A Girl named "Renee" Janet didn't go & try to stop them then & here we are 6 or 7 years down the road & here comes the Mother Etterlene DeBarge Claiming the same thing But now its A Son ........LOL So It kinda makes you wonder rather If Janet does have A kid & its adopted Or else Janet should had stopped it in 2005 .
I Have to Agree Janet needs to step in & File Legal Action On James's Family To stop them from doing this every 3 to 4 years i mean they have No Proof other then The Mother claiming to have saw Janet Pregnant & who to say she even was Pregnant Or that She even had the baby if indeed she was pregnant cause things can & could have happened She could had a abortion or the Baby was stillborn Or she Miscarried Or she was Just Big from Birth Control as Janet claims in her book .
& Them changing their Story each time they Come out with these Claims of A Jackson/DeBarge Child The Stories get Unbelievable ,Uncreditable,& Bizzare It has Bizzarely went From Janet & James having A Daughter Named "Renee" to Now Its A son & its Omer Bhatti ..........LOL .
next They'll have Janet having 8 Kids & been the Next Jon & Kate Plus 8 .............LMAO & hell at the rate their going I wouldn't be Surprised if they Came back out 3 or 4 Years from now with Claims of Janet having 8 children with James & they're all were put up for adoption ..............LMAO
I should clarify....Janet should only file a lawsuit IF there really is no child.Otherwise,the truth could come out in a messy court case.
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Between ironic comments (which are very funny) and statements from people who seem 2 believe that they were living inside Janet's vagina back then (2 really know what was happening down there)...I don't know what 2 believe 
I hadnt seen pics of his parents before. Wow, Omar sure is decked out in the MJ style...jacket, eyeliner and all 
They often try to play games and manipulate the media.Michael was a master at this.
will ALWAYS think of 
like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. 
is this why she never sued?