let's listen to janet response about her having a secret kid and some of the debarges claims about her having one starting at 3:07

Toxic said:

shortstuff45220 said:

how are you calling Janet selfish if you don't even no the story and it's obvious you are biased and for whatever reason have a problem with Janet , and when did James claims he didn't know? it's not James that is even claiming he has a kid or asking if he doe., He knows if he has a child, it's his family that keep using this story to get attention,

You know, I could say the same thing about you, too! But I'm not. You're right, I don't like Janet. I have never said that James said he has a kid. Or that he has one with Janet. I have said just the opposite. I don't know the whole story, but none of here do and that includes you. But you don't know what, if anything, I know. So don't call me a lair, ok? Everything I say, I will back up.

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shortstuff45220 said:

Toxic said:

You know, I could say the same thing about you, too! But I'm not. You're right, I don't like Janet. I have never said that James said he has a kid. Or that he has one with Janet. I have said just the opposite. I don't know the whole story, but none of here do and that includes you. But you don't know what, if anything, I know. So don't call me a lair, ok? Everything I say, I will back up.

you were just calimingJanet and James have a child, and you we

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No. I have claimed throughout this whole talk session, that he might. And if he does, then he has a right to know about it. Go back and read my threads from the very beginning.

Toxic said:

shortstuff45220 said:

you were just calimingJanet and James have a child, and you we

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No. I have claimed throughout this whole talk session, that he might. And if he does, then he has a right to know about it. Go back and read my threads from the very beginning.

no you are speaking as if like you no personally or that personally James is caliming this , and that's the problem 1) you don't know if he has a child a not 2) you don't he does know if he knows has a child or not , so why are you even assuming and calling Jnaet selfish and etc and whne James is not even making these calims?

HAPPYPERSON said:

let's listen to janet response about her having a secret kid and some of the debarges claims about her having one starting at 3:07

Nothing new. It's the same old stuff she's been claiming from day one. Thanks for the vid, though.

HAPPYPERSON said:

let's listen to janet response about her having a secret kid and some of the debarges claims about her having one starting at 3:07

How about this Someone should ask her Why does this Rumor keep Surfacing & Why? shes yet to Completely Deny the Rumor & even in this Video she doesn't say NO I DON'T HAVE A CHILD she Insteads Play it off as If the DeBarge's are doing it for Famn or Money Yet She Doesn't come out & say theirs No Child.

& Just because she says its not True Doesn't mean it is , My Aunt did the same shit Janets doing for years & 3 or 4 Years ago Her ( my aunts ) Adopted Son shows up after 28 years.

Plus Etterlene & her Son's keep saying they Believe theres A Baby & why Would they keep bringing it up If its not Try & why James won't Talk .

i'm Sorry but for some Strange reason I believe theres A Child I don't know why Cause why Are the DeBarge's keep bringing it up & its 26 years later.

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shortstuff45220 said:

Toxic said:

No. I have claimed throughout this whole talk session, that he might. And if he does, then he has a right to know about it. Go back and read my threads from the very beginning.

no you are speaking as if like you no personally or that personally James is caliming this , and that's the problem 1) you don't know if he has a child a not 2) you don't he does know if he knows has a child or not , so why are you even assuming and calling Jnaet selfish and etc and whne James is not even making these calims?

You are correct on one thing, and that is I don't know the whole story. But neither do you. Most all of what I'm saying is my opinion of what I think. That's it. I have only heard James one time speak on the matter and the only thing he really said about it was just that some things had gone on in his marriage to Janet that had hurt them both. A theme that I have echoed from the beginning of my threads. That right there is the only proof I have. Most all of the rest of the information that I have, I have gotten the same way that you all have: magazines, web sites, interviews, etc. A good chunk of it, is just my opinion on how I feel about the matter, that's it. Ok? Don't call me a liar. You don't know me.

jax85 said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

let's listen to janet response about her having a secret kid and some of the debarges claims about her having one starting at 3:07

How about this Someone should ask her Why does this Rumor keep Surfacing & Why? shes yet to Completely Deny the Rumor & even in this Video she doesn't say NO I DON'T HAVE A CHILD she Insteads Play it off as If the DeBarge's are doing it for Famn or Money Yet She Doesn't come out & say theirs No Child.

& Just because she says its not True Doesn't mean it is , My Aunt did the same shit Janets doing for years & 3 or 4 Years ago Her ( my aunts ) Adopted Son shows up after 28 years.

Plus Etterlene & her Son's keep saying they Believe theres A Baby & why Would they keep bringing it up If its not Try & why James won't Talk .

i'm Sorry but for some Strange reason I believe theres A Child I don't know why Cause why Are the DeBarge's keep bringing it up & its 26 years later.

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jax85 said:

HAPPYPERSON said:

let's listen to janet response about her having a secret kid and some of the debarges claims about her having one starting at 3:07

How about this Someone should ask her Why does this Rumor keep Surfacing & Why? shes yet to Completely Deny the Rumor & even in this Video she doesn't say NO I DON'T HAVE A CHILD she Insteads Play it off as If the DeBarge's are doing it for Famn or Money Yet She Doesn't come out & say theirs No Child.

& Just because she says its not True Doesn't mean it is , My Aunt did the same shit Janets doing for years & 3 or 4 Years ago Her ( my aunts ) Adopted Son shows up after 28 years.

Plus Etterlene & her Son's keep saying they Believe theres A Baby & why Would they keep bringing it up If its not Try & why James won't Talk .

i'm Sorry but for some Strange reason I believe theres A Child I don't know why Cause why Are the DeBarge's keep bringing it up & its 26 years later.

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she's been denying it, has been since the very begging and if you don't belive her than that's your oppion and your going to belive what you want to belive anyway

off topic why want they let you edit your post, your or the whole post doesn't show up?

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Toxic said:

shortstuff45220 said:

no you are speaking as if like you no personally or that personally James is caliming this , and that's the problem 1) you don't know if he has a child a not 2) you don't he does know if he knows has a child or not , so why are you even assuming and calling Jnaet selfish and etc and whne James is not even making these calims?

You are correct on one thing, and that is I don't know the whole story. But neither do you. Most all of what I'm saying is my opinion of what I think. That's it. I have only heard James one time speak on the matter and the only thing he really said about it was just that some things had gone on in his marriage to Janet that had hurt them both. A theme that I have echoed from the beginning of my threads. That right there is the only proof I have. Most all of the rest of the information that I have, I have gotten the same way that you all have: magazines, web sites, interviews, etc. A good chunk of it, is just my opinion on how I feel about the matter, that's it. Ok? Don't call me a liar. You don't know me.

exactly that it your oppion and your believeing what you want to believe, James could be talking about anything and by the way you seem to ignoring that and hurt them BOTH part, which is why I don't understand all the judment over something you don't know is true or not.

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shortstuff45220 said:

Toxic said:

You are correct on one thing, and that is I don't know the whole story. But neither do you. Most all of what I'm saying is my opinion of what I think. That's it. I have only heard James one time speak on the matter and the only thing he really said about it was just that some things had gone on in his marriage to Janet that had hurt them both. A theme that I have echoed from the beginning of my threads. That right there is the only proof I have. Most all of the rest of the information that I have, I have gotten the same way that you all have: magazines, web sites, interviews, etc. A good chunk of it, is just my opinion on how I feel about the matter, that's it. Ok? Don't call me a liar. You don't know me.

exactly that it your oppion and your believeing what you want to believe, James could be talking about anything and by the way you seem to ignoring that and hurt them BOTH part, which is why I don't understand all the judment over something you don't know is true or not.

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That's correct. We all believe what we think to be truth, even though it may not be. I have not ignored anything. What James is saying, I may have misconstrued. But I do believe that some of it has to pertain to a kid that he cannot confirm or deny. It is just my opinion. I'm entitled to that.

Look, in the end, twenty-something years of gossip and speculation are enough. Produce some evidence. If there was a "baby" that person would have gone in search of their heritage and would have surfaced by now or at least tried to get in contact with Janet or James. The "baby" would be a grown ass adult. Time for such speculation to just die.

I love how two black people made a little Indian boy.

This is like the pregnant man.

musicjunky318 said:

I love how two black people made a little Indian boy.

This is like the pregnant man.

purplethunder3121 said:

Look, in the end, twenty-something years of gossip and speculation are enough. Produce some evidence. If there was a "baby" that person would have gone in search of their heritage and would have surfaced by now or at least tried to get in contact with Janet or James. The "baby" would be a grown ass adult. Time for such speculation to just die.

thank you that child would have been almost 30 , they would have came looking for there birth parents by now and you would think if your adoptive and if this mystical child is Janet's there surly has to be a resmebalance and that person has herad hey you look like Janet Jackson and a light bulb would have gone oof, but even after all this time no one is coming foward to be this child.

and another thing there is a whole paper trail for adoption, somebody would have found something by now not to mention the whole process of given birth it's self no doctors ,no nurses came forwards ( yeah her persoanl doctor wouldn't have been able to come forward ) but other doctors at hosptial could a have certainlty nurses would have , espically if they have retired and would have been paid proabbly for the boom shell ) heck even somebody in some insurance department would have came across the claim so did she have the baby in the back woods,? cause there is just too many people involved for somedody not to notice

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purplethunder3121 said:

Look, in the end, twenty-something years of gossip and speculation are enough. Produce some evidence. If there was a "baby" that person would have gone in search of their heritage and would have surfaced by now or at least tried to get in contact with Janet or James. The "baby" would be a grown ass adult. Time for such speculation to just die.

Some times Adopt Families at time chooses not to tell their Adopt child about their Birth Parents lets not forget during the Adoption Process The Birth Mother can write in the Documents that she doesn't want to be known or does she what to be found .

So even if the Child is grown & able to reach someone & knows its adopted who's to say Janet even used her own Name Or even has it in the Adoption documents that the kid can find her We don't know what really happend but I do know that some Adopted Children even in their Adult ages aren't able to find their birth parents due to how documents were written during the birth , lets also add the child would have to go through A Adoption agency & then A Court if they wanted to unlock their sealed Birth records that could take up to A Few years & some times the Agents aren't able to find The child's Biological Parents/Mothers .

So theres A lot to go by when theres A Legal Adoption & Documents .

So Just because it is A Adult & is old enough to Go & call up Janet & James who's to say rather Janet used her Name which means If she didn't use her Name then How would even The Adoption agency be able to track that child mother given the fact if she used a phony name which means it may know but not be able to contact anyone due to how the Adoption Documents were written back in 1985.

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shortstuff45220 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Look, in the end, twenty-something years of gossip and speculation are enough. Produce some evidence. If there was a "baby" that person would have gone in search of their heritage and would have surfaced by now or at least tried to get in contact with Janet or James. The "baby" would be a grown ass adult. Time for such speculation to just die.

thank you that child would have been almost 30 , they would have came looking for there birth parents by now and you would think if your adoptive and if this mystical child is Janet's there surly has to be a resmebalance and that person has herad hey you look like Janet Jackson and a light bulb would have gone oof, but even after all this time no one is coming foward to be this child.

and another thing there is a whole paper trail for adoption, somebody would have found something by now not to mention the whole process of given birth it's self no doctors ,no nurses came forwards ( yeah her persoanl doctor wouldn't have been able to come forward ) but other doctors at hosptial could a have certainlty nurses would have , espically if they have retired and would have been paid proabbly for the boom shell ) heck even somebody in some insurance department would have came across the claim so did she have the baby in the back woods,? cause there is just too many people involved for somedody not to notice

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How about using A phony name & Of course we all have look alike's there for Janet could had used A Phony Name Had the Baby , written in the Child's Adoption Papers that theres No Contact to her Nor does she want the Baby to know of her .

This way No one can trail her butt & find her Or she could have done like my Aunt Had the Adopted Family sign all Documents & Her son Spent Years looking for my Aunt & he only found my aunt by the grace of God & A Family Friend otherwise he would have never found her .

musicjunky318 said:

I love how two black people made a little Indian boy.

This is like the pregnant man.

you just made my night

This also reminds of my own self with hearing rumors that I'm Adopted & that one of my Aunts Gave me to my Dad & Mother Which I've heard for Years & I've Heard my Grandmother Joke about Me even been Adopted from A Jackson Family member & shit I've heard a lot of things But I've never believed any of the Rumors about me been Adopted I just have token it with A Grain of Salt & as it is A stupid rumor .

So I do Understand What A Child may feel Or my Hear & I'm like I've never went to my Aunt & asked because I do not believe it . Just like I wouldn't go to THe Jackson Family & be like Hey I want A DNA test Cause I think I'm someones kid.........LOL that would be Crazy & I wouldn't dare go there .

I Believe my Parents are my Parents But this entire Rumor Reminds me Of Hearing rumors about myself been given away to My Dad & mom for Years .

purplethunder3121 said:

Look, in the end, twenty-something years of gossip and speculation are enough. Produce some evidence. If there was a "baby" that person would have gone in search of their heritage and would have surfaced by now or at least tried to get in contact with Janet or James. The "baby" would be a grown ass adult. Time for such speculation to just die.

CHUUCH!

shortstuff45220 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Look, in the end, twenty-something years of gossip and speculation are enough. Produce some evidence. If there was a "baby" that person would have gone in search of their heritage and would have surfaced by now or at least tried to get in contact with Janet or James. The "baby" would be a grown ass adult. Time for such speculation to just die.

thank you that child would have been almost 30 , they would have came looking for there birth parents by now and you would think if your adoptive and if this mystical child is Janet's there surly has to be a resmebalance and that person has herad hey you look like Janet Jackson and a light bulb would have gone oof, but even after all this time no one is coming foward to be this child.

and another thing there is a whole paper trail for adoption, somebody would have found something by now not to mention the whole process of given birth it's self no doctors ,no nurses came forwards ( yeah her persoanl doctor wouldn't have been able to come forward ) but other doctors at hosptial could a have certainlty nurses would have , espically if they have retired and would have been paid proabbly for the boom shell ) heck even somebody in some insurance department would have came across the claim so did she have the baby in the back woods,? cause there is just too many people involved for somedody not to notice

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thats why i Never believed Her Niece Brandi was the kid cause what almost 30 something kid who's within the Jackson Family wouldn't be asking Aunt Janet if their her kid & why wouldn't they not contact James ...........LOL Yet People Believed Brandi was the Kid & Now Omer .

This is slightly off the topic, but I would like to say something, if I may.

This is a forum, is it not? Those of us who come here (any forum), come because we have something that we would like to share. Perhaps for many of us, sharing this information (whether true or not), could be very theraputic and may be just what we need to help us keep our sanity. It just may be that there may not be another place for us to go and share such information with someone who would care enough to listen. If someone on here says something that you would like to share in, that's great! If you find it to be truth, that's even better! If someone says something that you don't think is truth, well, you don't have to participate in it and get yourself riled up over nothing. It could be possible that they didn't know it wasn't true. They just wanted to share it with other like minded people who share their interest. My point is, let those who will come, come.

Back to this thing about James, this mystery "kid" and Janet, as long as there is breath in someone's body to breathe out a word of this, this will continue on. And as long as I can continue on with it, I will. It's just an interest of mine because I like James so much! I like the way he dances, it's so funny to watch him! That's all. You know, nothing for me to get all riled up over. It's not like I know the man personally.

^^^ I'm sure by this time James has some kids that are known and acknowledged--after all, don't most of the DeBarge men have a whole village of them?! No need to bring Janet in continually, except for name value, that is.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...r_embedded

Found this and wanted to share it. It's James talking about how Michael Jackson saved his life once.

This is a clip from the Dr. Drew show that's coming on tomorrow.

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musicjunky318 said:

I love how two black people made a little Indian boy.

This is like the pregnant man.

They can't. But two African-American people can make an Indian-looking child, if the parents' features are similar to that of an Indian. In this case, though, the child in question is not James and/or Janet's.

purplethunder3121 said:

Look, in the end, twenty-something years of gossip and speculation are enough. Produce some evidence. If there was a "baby" that person would have gone in search of their heritage and would have surfaced by now or at least tried to get in contact with Janet or James. The "baby" would be a grown ass adult. Time for such speculation to just die.

Not necessarily. Outside of the whole James/Janet connection, an adopted child do not always have a desire to meet their biological parents and if they do, we've all hear of the various horror stories of those who've tried. It's no small task. Now, factor in the James/Janet connection, and I would bet the farm that the terms of the adoption were made in such a way that the "child" would never be able to track either of them down. Again, we're talking about the Jacksons.

Ok, so let's look at this from yet another angle. Earlier someone brought up James' drug addiction and another person mentioned that Janet may have got an abortion. You may have hit on something by mentioning the drugs and possible abortion. Is it safe to say that if there were a child that Janet may had miscarried, the child could had been stillborn, had since passed away due to complication of being a drug-addicted child, or had been placed in an medical facility like Dorothy Dandridge's daughter? If the last option was the case, it could had been done with the help of a family friend or employee (lawyer, possibly) where the staff of the facility wouldn't had known who the parents of the child are. And that would explain way no one has come forward with any "proof".

P.S. I think a lot of what has been posted here has been based on looking at this thing from an average everyday citizen p-o-v. James and especially Janet were celebrities and we all know that how celebrities handle their problems business and how we handle ours is totally different.

Ask Jacky… Does Janet Jackson Have a Secret Son?

So Jacky, I know you’ve been hearing for years that Janet Jackson had a child while married to James debarg!

While working on the set of Fame Janet (Miss Jackson if ya nasty) was very much pregnant. Not only was she pregnant but chain smoking like a train.. Then she later emerged with the control album little baby fat still on her body..

I’ve broken this story last year in one of my blind items and guess what? National Enquirer picked up on it and investigated my story, solving the mystery of Janet Jackson’s bastard child.

Janet Jackson has a 27 year old son and his name is Omer Bhatti. Don’t believe me? Ask Katherine Jackson.

Yours Truly,
Jacky J.

Why is this thread so long? Over this? Omer looks nothing like some James DeBarge (and based on his daughter Christina, dude has some strong/dominant genes). All these years, the false "story" has been that's he's Michael's son (who he actually does resemble facially), and now he's somehow being connected to Janet? This is ludicrous. If Michael was really covering for Janet by "adopting" her supposed secret child, he would have done it when Omer was born, not when he was 10 years old in 1995 after meeting him in Europe. Janet needs to just speak out and end these fallacies.

Does anyone else find it strange that Omar and his parents aren't saying a word? Why aren't they denying this bullshit story? It almost seems as if they welcome this type of publicity.I guess that's one thing they have in common with the DeBarge family,lol.

WaterInYourBath said:

Why is this thread so long? Over this? Omer looks nothing like some James DeBarge (and based on his daughter Christina, dude has some strong/dominant genes). All these years, the false "story" has been that's he's Michael's son (who he actually does resemble facially), and now he's somehow being connected to Janet? This is ludicrous. If Michael was really covering for Janet by "adopting" her supposed secret child, he would have done it when Omer was born, not when he was 10 years old in 1995 after meeting him in Europe. Janet needs to just speak out and end these fallacies.

I know she has spoken out in the past,but it's time for her to speak out AGGRESSIVELY,to show that she means business.She needs to be blunt,direct and to the point,if she wants to put this rumor to rest.And like I said before,she needs to threaten legal action against those who are spreading these lies.....to show that she ain't playin'!

Hell,she should request a private meeting with Etterlene....and bring her attorneys along,for good measure