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Reply #330 posted 09/17/11 1:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

prodigalfan said:

A full term pregnancy is 40 weeks. Most months has 4 weeks in it. So I think it is more like 9 1/2 months. Because 9 months at 4 weeks per month would be 36 weeks. Any pregnacy shorter than 36 weeks is considered pre-mature. On the other hand...it is common to go 2 weeks over due. So a 10 month pregnancy is really not that rare.

geek

http://health.discovery.c...nancy.html

Just went to this pregnancy calculator. If your last period was Feb. 17, 2010 and you conceived during that cycle, your due date... according to the calculator would be November 24, 2011.

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Whoa, that's like 24 months or something. lol Don't you mean like February 2011? lol

falloff I meant 2/20/11.

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Reply #331 posted 09/17/11 1:59pm

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Whoa, that's like 24 months or something. lol Don't you mean like February 2011? lol

falloff I meant 2/20/11.

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Reply #332 posted 09/17/11 1:59pm

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lol @ kingsblood, I just had a good laugh, and to think some fans believe it? That just goes to show they are new fans and naive....he's south asian!!!

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Reply #333 posted 09/17/11 5:27pm

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Look at us! Playing "pregnancy detectives" falloff

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Reply #334 posted 09/18/11 9:34am

jax85

We are silly But this is Interesting & Entertaining ...........LMAO Maybe 10 Months isn't A long term but I would think March 85 to November 85 would be more of A 9 months Pregnancy .

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Reply #335 posted 09/18/11 9:59am

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lol @ kingsblood, I just had a good laugh, and to think some fans believe it? That just goes to show they are new fans and naive....he's south asian!!!

True it trips me out that this Same dude is Suddenly using these rumors of him been A Jackson & Michael's Son to now become A Rapper & start his career Were was he A few years ago when mike was Alive & why now come out wanting to be A rap star & using this rumor that hes Mikes kid to Scoop up MJ & Jackson fans who are Stupid enough to actually believe hes MJ's Kid .

He wants to Rap about having the Kings Bloodline but We've yet to Hear about A DNA been done to Prove this dude is Related to the Jacksons , Yet he wants to Rap about been the King of Pop & King's Bloodline & crap But Yet refuses to show Proof .

Mrs.Etterlene Needs to stop James needs to tell his Family to stop it & stop with these rumors & wanting to claim Kids who are associated with the Jacksons as the Kid yet Still not Proof of anything

& how the hell Etterlene get Omer to be the Kid God only knows , But Even if she does get A DNA Sample from Omer I'm 200% sure its not going to be What she's Hoping for Or What she thinks Cause anyone with GOOD Eyes can see that Omer is A Product of A ( WHITE MOTHER ) & ( IRANIAN MIDDLE EASTERN FATHER ) theres no way on this Earth A African American & A Half White/African American Man & Woman Could Produce A White/& Half Middle Eastern Looking Child .

& If anyone remembers Omer was to do A DNA Test back 2-3 years ago in 2009 to see if he was Mikes Son & we've yet to get any story on rather there was or is going to be A DNA Test done & I don't think there will ever be one cause Omer isn't A Jackson hes just using them & their Last name to try to become Famous cause if he had any good intentions he would have had A DNA Test done in 2009 after MJ died to Prove hes A Jackson & he hasn't So I only get that Omer's Intentions are to use The Jackson Family since he has yet to prove his DNA match Michael's So I highly doubt he will Give Etterlene anything . All it is that Him & B.Howard are on the same boat using The Jackson name to gain fame they have no intentions of proving anything DNA wise of course .

& I also blame The Jackson Family for continuing to allow BS of Omer been A Jackson , If hes not A Jackson then they need to stop it too there no better then Omer by allowing Omer to use Mike & The Jacksons to gain fame & I don't even know why Katherine won't get DNA Tests done on some of them damn grandkids to see If they are Jackson's & i'm talking about Omer , Prince Jr , Paris, & Prince II ( Blanket ) , Donte ( Adopted ) & Brandi .

I kinda see were Etterlene is coming from & Why Katherine won't do A DNA Test to see if some of those Mitchmatch kids Are really Her Blood Grand Children & I don't like it that The Jackson's Have never tried to seek any type of DNA testing on Paris ,Prince I & Prince II & Now Omer to see if their Michael's & to know the real truth & I Kind of feel like They don't want to know cause they know Michael isn't any of those kid Biological Father .

[Edited 9/18/11 10:10am]

[Edited 9/18/11 10:16am]

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Reply #336 posted 09/18/11 1:11pm

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jax85 said:

alphastreet said:

lol @ kingsblood, I just had a good laugh, and to think some fans believe it? That just goes to show they are new fans and naive....he's south asian!!!

True it trips me out that this Same dude is Suddenly using these rumors of him been A Jackson & Michael's Son to now become A Rapper & start his career Were was he A few years ago when mike was Alive & why now come out wanting to be A rap star & using this rumor that hes Mikes kid to Scoop up MJ & Jackson fans who are Stupid enough to actually believe hes MJ's Kid .

He wants to Rap about having the Kings Bloodline but We've yet to Hear about A DNA been done to Prove this dude is Related to the Jacksons , Yet he wants to Rap about been the King of Pop & King's Bloodline & crap But Yet refuses to show Proof .

Mrs.Etterlene Needs to stop James needs to tell his Family to stop it & stop with these rumors & wanting to claim Kids who are associated with the Jacksons as the Kid yet Still not Proof of anything

& how the hell Etterlene get Omer to be the Kid God only knows , But Even if she does get A DNA Sample from Omer I'm 200% sure its not going to be What she's Hoping for Or What she thinks Cause anyone with GOOD Eyes can see that Omer is A Product of A ( WHITE MOTHER ) & ( IRANIAN MIDDLE EASTERN FATHER ) theres no way on this Earth A African American & A Half White/African American Man & Woman Could Produce A White/& Half Middle Eastern Looking Child .

& If anyone remembers Omer was to do A DNA Test back 2-3 years ago in 2009 to see if he was Mikes Son & we've yet to get any story on rather there was or is going to be A DNA Test done & I don't think there will ever be one cause Omer isn't A Jackson hes just using them & their Last name to try to become Famous cause if he had any good intentions he would have had A DNA Test done in 2009 after MJ died to Prove hes A Jackson & he hasn't So I only get that Omer's Intentions are to use The Jackson Family since he has yet to prove his DNA match Michael's So I highly doubt he will Give Etterlene anything . All it is that Him & B.Howard are on the same boat using The Jackson name to gain fame they have no intentions of proving anything DNA wise of course .

& I also blame The Jackson Family for continuing to allow BS of Omer been A Jackson , If hes not A Jackson then they need to stop it too there no better then Omer by allowing Omer to use Mike & The Jacksons to gain fame & I don't even know why Katherine won't get DNA Tests done on some of them damn grandkids to see If they are Jackson's & i'm talking about Omer , Prince Jr , Paris, & Prince II ( Blanket ) , Donte ( Adopted ) & Brandi .

I kinda see were Etterlene is coming from & Why Katherine won't do A DNA Test to see if some of those Mitchmatch kids Are really Her Blood Grand Children & I don't like it that The Jackson's Have never tried to seek any type of DNA testing on Paris ,Prince I & Prince II & Now Omer to see if their Michael's & to know the real truth & I Kind of feel like They don't want to know cause they know Michael isn't any of those kid Biological Father .

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[Edited 9/18/11 10:16am]

I think that the reason for not getting any DNA testing done on the children is because it's not necessary. After a while, it stops being about paternity and starts being about love. At the end of the day, whether Michael's sperm was used to create the Prince, Paris, and/or Prince II; those are Katherine's grandchildren.

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Reply #337 posted 09/18/11 2:00pm

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mimi02 said:

jax85 said:

True it trips me out that this Same dude is Suddenly using these rumors of him been A Jackson & Michael's Son to now become A Rapper & start his career Were was he A few years ago when mike was Alive & why now come out wanting to be A rap star & using this rumor that hes Mikes kid to Scoop up MJ & Jackson fans who are Stupid enough to actually believe hes MJ's Kid .

He wants to Rap about having the Kings Bloodline but We've yet to Hear about A DNA been done to Prove this dude is Related to the Jacksons , Yet he wants to Rap about been the King of Pop & King's Bloodline & crap But Yet refuses to show Proof .

Mrs.Etterlene Needs to stop James needs to tell his Family to stop it & stop with these rumors & wanting to claim Kids who are associated with the Jacksons as the Kid yet Still not Proof of anything

& how the hell Etterlene get Omer to be the Kid God only knows , But Even if she does get A DNA Sample from Omer I'm 200% sure its not going to be What she's Hoping for Or What she thinks Cause anyone with GOOD Eyes can see that Omer is A Product of A ( WHITE MOTHER ) & ( IRANIAN MIDDLE EASTERN FATHER ) theres no way on this Earth A African American & A Half White/African American Man & Woman Could Produce A White/& Half Middle Eastern Looking Child .

& If anyone remembers Omer was to do A DNA Test back 2-3 years ago in 2009 to see if he was Mikes Son & we've yet to get any story on rather there was or is going to be A DNA Test done & I don't think there will ever be one cause Omer isn't A Jackson hes just using them & their Last name to try to become Famous cause if he had any good intentions he would have had A DNA Test done in 2009 after MJ died to Prove hes A Jackson & he hasn't So I only get that Omer's Intentions are to use The Jackson Family since he has yet to prove his DNA match Michael's So I highly doubt he will Give Etterlene anything . All it is that Him & B.Howard are on the same boat using The Jackson name to gain fame they have no intentions of proving anything DNA wise of course .

& I also blame The Jackson Family for continuing to allow BS of Omer been A Jackson , If hes not A Jackson then they need to stop it too there no better then Omer by allowing Omer to use Mike & The Jacksons to gain fame & I don't even know why Katherine won't get DNA Tests done on some of them damn grandkids to see If they are Jackson's & i'm talking about Omer , Prince Jr , Paris, & Prince II ( Blanket ) , Donte ( Adopted ) & Brandi .

I kinda see were Etterlene is coming from & Why Katherine won't do A DNA Test to see if some of those Mitchmatch kids Are really Her Blood Grand Children & I don't like it that The Jackson's Have never tried to seek any type of DNA testing on Paris ,Prince I & Prince II & Now Omer to see if their Michael's & to know the real truth & I Kind of feel like They don't want to know cause they know Michael isn't any of those kid Biological Father .

[Edited 9/18/11 10:10am]

[Edited 9/18/11 10:16am]

I think that the reason for not getting any DNA testing done on the children is because it's not necessary. After a while, it stops being about paternity and starts being about love. At the end of the day, whether Michael's sperm was used to create the Prince, Paris, and/or Prince II; those are Katherine's grandchildren.

& thats why we are seen this Issue with Omer is because they don't want to Enforce DNA test & this will continue because Of the Jackson's been Sweet & Nice & accepting of any & everyone within their Family I'm surprised no other Kids haven't came out & tried to claim their Mike's Kid(s). Maybe not the 3 Kids Cause they are legally Mikes & I do feel Sorry for them Having to loose A Father so Young so I'll say Leave the Other Kids out but Damn at least get one on Omer & if hes not A Jackson then They need to Stop it & Omer needs to Stop it too If he is A Jackson then hey get A DNA test to prove it If not then Omer needs to stop playing off on These Rumors that hes Mikes Son & Rapping about it yet hes not on anyones Will or Legal Papers Hes not Adopted Hell at least the Other Kids are Legally Jackson's Omer isn't on No ones Papers as A Jackson & It seems like hes not wanting to do A DNA Test due to him possibly knowing hes not A Jackson & I do kinda Blame The Jackson's for Continuing to have him within Their Family & Say they Think hes A Jackson yet Won't Force him to get A DNA Test especially when theres thousands of fans who actually believe he could be I seriously Don't think its right .

The Other kids are Legally Mikes his name is on their Birth certificates & their on His will & so is some of HIs Nieces & Nephews are on his will & Estate But NOT OMER which I find strange of Why Omer isn't on anything Yet Michael Made sure His 3 Children & Some of his Young Nieces & Nephew's & even Some Cousin's are all on Mikes Will & Estate But Omer is not on his Legal Papers & I find it Hard to believe hes Mikes kid Or A Jackson & Hes Not on anyones Papers Nor is He Adopted by any of the Jacksons .

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Reply #338 posted 09/18/11 9:49pm

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jax85 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I can see Nathaniel in some of Austin's features.

I Didn't know it Toke 10 months to have A Baby If he was Conceived in Feb of 85

1. Feb 85

2. Mar 85

3.Apr 85

4. May 85

5.June 85

6.July 85

7.Aug 85

8. Sep 85

9.Oct 85

10. Nov 85

Thats 10 Months However I would say He was Conceived around March of 1985 which would make Rebbie Pregnant From March of 1985 to November of 1985 which would be 9 months which sound more realistic because in some cases it does take 8 or 9 months to have Baby , 10 months is a little to long to be carrying a baby .

So Rebbie had to have conceive Austin around March of 1985 For him to be Born in November of 1985 .

Well it could have been March or it could have been February if you look at it like this:

Feb-March = 1 month

March-April = 2nd month

April-May = 3rd month

May-June = 4th month

June-July = 5th month

July-Aug = 6th month

Aug-Sept = 7th month

Sept-Oct = 8th month

Oct-Nov = 9th month

According to the pregnancy calculator link that Prodigalfan posted if she had conceived in Feb. the baby would've been born in November. But pregnancy times vary, a normal pregnancy can last anywhere from 38-42 weeks. Obviously Rebbie would've started showing sometime after Feb. which was the main point of my question, if anyone rememberd seeing her being pregnant sometime during 1985.

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Reply #339 posted 09/18/11 10:04pm

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SoulAlive said:

Look at us! Playing "pregnancy detectives" falloff

I know. neutral neutral

lol

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Reply #340 posted 09/18/11 10:09pm

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jax85 said:

alphastreet said:

lol @ kingsblood, I just had a good laugh, and to think some fans believe it? That just goes to show they are new fans and naive....he's south asian!!!

True it trips me out that this Same dude is Suddenly using these rumors of him been A Jackson & Michael's Son to now become A Rapper & start his career Were was he A few years ago when mike was Alive & why now come out wanting to be A rap star & using this rumor that hes Mikes kid to Scoop up MJ & Jackson fans who are Stupid enough to actually believe hes MJ's Kid .

He wants to Rap about having the Kings Bloodline but We've yet to Hear about A DNA been done to Prove this dude is Related to the Jacksons , Yet he wants to Rap about been the King of Pop & King's Bloodline & crap But Yet refuses to show Proof .

Mrs.Etterlene Needs to stop James needs to tell his Family to stop it & stop with these rumors & wanting to claim Kids who are associated with the Jacksons as the Kid yet Still not Proof of anything

& how the hell Etterlene get Omer to be the Kid God only knows , But Even if she does get A DNA Sample from Omer I'm 200% sure its not going to be What she's Hoping for Or What she thinks Cause anyone with GOOD Eyes can see that Omer is A Product of A ( WHITE MOTHER ) & ( IRANIAN MIDDLE EASTERN FATHER ) theres no way on this Earth A African American & A Half White/African American Man & Woman Could Produce A White/& Half Middle Eastern Looking Child .

& If anyone remembers Omer was to do A DNA Test back 2-3 years ago in 2009 to see if he was Mikes Son & we've yet to get any story on rather there was or is going to be A DNA Test done & I don't think there will ever be one cause Omer isn't A Jackson hes just using them & their Last name to try to become Famous cause if he had any good intentions he would have had A DNA Test done in 2009 after MJ died to Prove hes A Jackson & he hasn't So I only get that Omer's Intentions are to use The Jackson Family since he has yet to prove his DNA match Michael's So I highly doubt he will Give Etterlene anything . All it is that Him & B.Howard are on the same boat using The Jackson name to gain fame they have no intentions of proving anything DNA wise of course .

& I also blame The Jackson Family for continuing to allow BS of Omer been A Jackson , If hes not A Jackson then they need to stop it too there no better then Omer by allowing Omer to use Mike & The Jacksons to gain fame & I don't even know why Katherine won't get DNA Tests done on some of them damn grandkids to see If they are Jackson's & i'm talking about Omer , Prince Jr , Paris, & Prince II ( Blanket ) , Donte ( Adopted ) & Brandi .

I kinda see were Etterlene is coming from & Why Katherine won't do A DNA Test to see if some of those Mitchmatch kids Are really Her Blood Grand Children & I don't like it that The Jackson's Have never tried to seek any type of DNA testing on Paris ,Prince I & Prince II & Now Omer to see if their Michael's & to know the real truth & I Kind of feel like They don't want to know cause they know Michael isn't any of those kid Biological Father .

[Edited 9/18/11 10:10am]

[Edited 9/18/11 10:16am]

Well, I don't know much about who and how many children MJ has except the 3 he adopted err... sired through surrogate mothers.

But I will say this... shen I saw that interview of Micki Howard's son... I got goose bumps when I heard his speak... not just the soft tone of his voice... but his inflection and pauses... He sounded just like, just like, just like MJ. SMH.

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Reply #341 posted 09/18/11 10:13pm

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mimi02 said:

jax85 said:

True it trips me out that this Same dude is Suddenly using these rumors of him been A Jackson & Michael's Son to now become A Rapper & start his career Were was he A few years ago when mike was Alive & why now come out wanting to be A rap star & using this rumor that hes Mikes kid to Scoop up MJ & Jackson fans who are Stupid enough to actually believe hes MJ's Kid .

He wants to Rap about having the Kings Bloodline but We've yet to Hear about A DNA been done to Prove this dude is Related to the Jacksons , Yet he wants to Rap about been the King of Pop & King's Bloodline & crap But Yet refuses to show Proof .

Mrs.Etterlene Needs to stop James needs to tell his Family to stop it & stop with these rumors & wanting to claim Kids who are associated with the Jacksons as the Kid yet Still not Proof of anything

& how the hell Etterlene get Omer to be the Kid God only knows , But Even if she does get A DNA Sample from Omer I'm 200% sure its not going to be What she's Hoping for Or What she thinks Cause anyone with GOOD Eyes can see that Omer is A Product of A ( WHITE MOTHER ) & ( IRANIAN MIDDLE EASTERN FATHER ) theres no way on this Earth A African American & A Half White/African American Man & Woman Could Produce A White/& Half Middle Eastern Looking Child .

& If anyone remembers Omer was to do A DNA Test back 2-3 years ago in 2009 to see if he was Mikes Son & we've yet to get any story on rather there was or is going to be A DNA Test done & I don't think there will ever be one cause Omer isn't A Jackson hes just using them & their Last name to try to become Famous cause if he had any good intentions he would have had A DNA Test done in 2009 after MJ died to Prove hes A Jackson & he hasn't So I only get that Omer's Intentions are to use The Jackson Family since he has yet to prove his DNA match Michael's So I highly doubt he will Give Etterlene anything . All it is that Him & B.Howard are on the same boat using The Jackson name to gain fame they have no intentions of proving anything DNA wise of course .

& I also blame The Jackson Family for continuing to allow BS of Omer been A Jackson , If hes not A Jackson then they need to stop it too there no better then Omer by allowing Omer to use Mike & The Jacksons to gain fame & I don't even know why Katherine won't get DNA Tests done on some of them damn grandkids to see If they are Jackson's & i'm talking about Omer , Prince Jr , Paris, & Prince II ( Blanket ) , Donte ( Adopted ) & Brandi .

I kinda see were Etterlene is coming from & Why Katherine won't do A DNA Test to see if some of those Mitchmatch kids Are really Her Blood Grand Children & I don't like it that The Jackson's Have never tried to seek any type of DNA testing on Paris ,Prince I & Prince II & Now Omer to see if their Michael's & to know the real truth & I Kind of feel like They don't want to know cause they know Michael isn't any of those kid Biological Father .

[Edited 9/18/11 10:10am]

[Edited 9/18/11 10:16am]

I think that the reason for not getting any DNA testing done on the children is because it's not necessary. After a while, it stops being about paternity and starts being about love. At the end of the day, whether Michael's sperm was used to create the Prince, Paris, and/or Prince II; those are Katherine's grandchildren.

Agreed. And MJ love those children and raised all of them from infancy till his death. Regardless of whether his DNA runs through them... His love and yes his legacy runs through them.

It would do no good to test these children. It would really be a DIShonor to MJ to question the paternity of those 3 kids, and it would not matter with inheritance since there was a WILL, not probate to give to next of kin. So even if the children were not biologically related, no one could set aside their inheritance. MJ had a will.

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Reply #342 posted 09/18/11 10:26pm

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PippiL said:

bboy87 said:

Omer has been riding this whole "honorary Jackson family member" thing since Michael passed neutral

Exactly. He's been gladly exploiting the whole thing all this time. Every time I point this out though I get slaughtered by other fans. lol

So damn true ever since MJ died Omer has been Exploiting The Jacksons & Exploiting him been A Family member yet Have no DNA test to Prove hes One yet Wants to Rap about Having the Kings Bloodline . I however fault the Jacksons for allowing this to Continue instead of making his ass do A Damn DNA test to Prove hes A Jackson It seems to me that they are allowing it & backing it up by Claiming him as part of the Family .

& to be honest the only way I see Omer been part of The Jackson Family is Through Blanket as His Brother .

Otherwise I don't think Hes Blood kind or else His ass would have done A DNA Test back in 2009 & if hes not His Parents need to stop him & The Jackson need to stop allow him to exploit this Rumor & make his ass go back home to norway & set down & stop with this crap of him been related .

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Reply #343 posted 09/18/11 10:57pm

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prodigalfan said:

SoulAlive said:

I don't understand why she just didn't say "Yeah,Rene and I are married".Why the need to deny that? People already knew they were a couple anyway.Sometimes,when you hide certain facts from the public,you just make things worse.That's why some people believe that there is a secret child.The attitude becomes "well...she wasn't forthcoming about her marriage,so maybe she's hiding a secret child,too".Michael Jackson played this game,too.He wasn't totally forthcoming about his surgeries,his children and how they were conceived,etc.Don't get me wrong,I truly understand why they do this.They want to have a private life and this stuff isn't our business anyway,but I'm not sure if their strategy is the right one.

exactly. I think some celebrities make it worst (by design). Look at Madonna... she jogs on the streets of NYC. Had 2 kids and ID both fathers... no big controversy... no papparazi stalking her kids. Totally NORMAL. When people conceal and outright lie... it just fans the flames. Maybe this is by design. hmmm

At any rate, I don't understand why she didn't just say we are already married. I got the feeling that Rene sure wanted to say something before Janet smoothly responded to the answer.

And like Ottensen said... I know what I saw too. Janet had a pregnancy bump bigger than what Beyonce is showing now. On the show Fame, she wore a lot of jumpers with the skinny belt hanging around her waist and the belt drooped down. it used to be the style. Anyway, that was the first that I noticed that she had a pouch in there.

Then the next show, her character sat down a lot or would be standing behind a stack of books etc. Soap opera fans recogninze these are strategies used when an actress is pg and the pregnancy is not written in the show.

Finally, she had her last scene on the show... that was late spring. By summer I read in my hometown newspaper that Janet was joining the ranks of expectant moms and would not be on the next season of Fame because she was in the family way.

Actually to Correct many of you I do Watch FAME still & the Episode that everyone keeps claiming they saw her Pregnany is called "SCHOOL IS OUT " is when Cleo is leaving the school Its with Nicole & Jesse & cleo are in the School Cafeteria .

Lets Just say I have the Episode Saved on TiVo & I watched it Back & to be honest durring her Episodes She was Shown Fully & she didn't look Big & Pregnant like many of you are claiming She looked like A Girl who was gaining weight but she didn't look Full Belly Pregnant it looks like she ccould had been gaining weight & the Episode is in 1985 however She doesn't look all out Full Belly Pregnant She just looks like she was starting to pack on A Few Extra pounds around the Time the Show was Airing in 85.

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Reply #344 posted 09/18/11 11:02pm

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SoulAlive said:

prodigalfan said:

exactly. I think some celebrities make it worst (by design). Look at Madonna... she jogs on the streets of NYC. Had 2 kids and ID both fathers... no big controversy... no papparazi stalking her kids. Totally NORMAL. When people conceal and outright lie... it just fans the flames. Maybe this is by design. hmmm

At any rate, I don't understand why she didn't just say we are already married. I got the feeling that Rene sure wanted to say something before Janet smoothly responded to the answer.

And like Ottensen said... I know what I saw too. Janet had a pregnancy bump bigger than what Beyonce is showing now. On the show Fame, she wore a lot of jumpers with the skinny belt hanging around her waist and the belt drooped down. it used to be the style. Anyway, that was the first that I noticed that she had a pouch in there.

Then the next show, her character sat down a lot or would be standing behind a stack of books etc. Soap opera fans recogninze these are strategies used when an actress is pg and the pregnancy is not written in the show.

Finally, she had her last scene on the show... that was late spring. By summer I read in my hometown newspaper that Janet was joining the ranks of expectant moms and would not be on the next season of Fame because she was in the family way.

Exactly.Madonna has never tried to hide her children or her marriages.What's the point? I remember when Michael used to make his kids wear masks in public to hide their identity disbelief that was sad and totally unnecessary.

no papparazi stalking her kids .

Not true papparazi do follow her Daughter theres A Video of Her Daughter leaving A Spa w/Friends & the Papparai Had Camera stalking the place were she & her Friend were getting A Spa at Good thing She has body gards .

But Paparazi do be Following Madonna's oldest Daughter Loudes so just to Let you know .

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Reply #345 posted 09/19/11 10:50am

Toxic

What is James up to these days? Anybody know?

NaughtyKitty said:

Take this story with a grain of salt and consider the source--it comes from MediaTakeout, which got the story from the National Enquirer.

http://mediatakeout.com/5...e_boy.html

SHOCK CLAIM: THE TABLOIDS ARE SAYING THAT JANET JACKSON HAS A SECRET SON . . THEY GOT PROOF . . . AND PICS OF THE BOY!!!

August 25, 2011. MediaTakeOut.com just got wind of an EXPLOSIVE REPORT in the National Enquirer. James DeBarge's MOTHER spoke to them . . and admitted that Janet WAS PREGNANT . . . and that she had s SON with her first husband James.

And get this. James mother, 75 yr old ETTELENE DeBarge claims that Janet's baby is Omer Bhatti - the boy that was CONSTANTLY around Michael.

Here are some quotes from ETTERLENE:

[Omer Bhatti] is my grandson! He looks just like James did when he was young . . . Omer is Janet's son."


And more:


And more:

Janet gave birth overseas, and her family arranged to have Janet give the child to a family in Norway.


Well . . . there you have it!!!


I thought that Omar was supposedly Michael's secret son lol But why would is Etterlene say something like this now? And to a tabloid? confused



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Reply #346 posted 09/19/11 12:24pm

Giselle

Who cares ? All I know is .... Omer Bhatti is a sexy MF ! lol

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Reply #347 posted 09/19/11 12:26pm

jax85

Toxic said:

What is James up to these days? Anybody know?

NaughtyKitty said:

Take this story with a grain of salt and consider the source--it comes from MediaTakeout, which got the story from the National Enquirer.

http://mediatakeout.com/5...e_boy.html

SHOCK CLAIM: THE TABLOIDS ARE SAYING THAT JANET JACKSON HAS A SECRET SON . . THEY GOT PROOF . . . AND PICS OF THE BOY!!!

August 25, 2011. MediaTakeOut.com just got wind of an EXPLOSIVE REPORT in the National Enquirer. James DeBarge's MOTHER spoke to them . . and admitted that Janet WAS PREGNANT . . . and that she had s SON with her first husband James.

And get this. James mother, 75 yr old ETTELENE DeBarge claims that Janet's baby is Omer Bhatti - the boy that was CONSTANTLY around Michael.

Here are some quotes from ETTERLENE:


Well . . . there you have it!!!


I thought that Omar was supposedly Michael's secret son lol But why would is Etterlene say something like this now? And to a tabloid? confused



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Etterlene Is doing it for Money & why Is she changing the Gender of the Child from been A Daughter Named "Renee" To now Suddenly its A Son & its Omer Bhatti It just Speaks Money shes Broke & she's needing Money & this is her only way of getting Money .

For Years The Rumor has been Janet & James having A Daughter A Baby girl Named "Renee" Even her 2 Son's Have Not Denied that Its A Daughter & one son came out with A Name "Renee" back in 2005 .

So I'm not Understanding why Etterlene is or has came out with A Story that suddenly its A Boy & its Omer Bhatti which makes no Sence & her Sudden Gender Change Of the Secret Love Child Makes many of Us Wonder What is Etterlene Smoking Or on for her to throw her own Son under the Bus & throw these Crazy insane accusations out into A Tabloid Magazine suddenly .

I Believe theres A child & its A Daughter , Omer on the Other hand I'm pretty sure Many would agree I'm not Understanding were Etterlene got that its A Son & its Omer who is Half White/& Middle eastern Indian & looks nothing like A child I would think would be Produced Between Janet who's African American & Her own Son who's Black & Half White cause Some were down the line That Kid or Child Would look More African American Or even Biracial , But It wouldn't Come out looking like Omer Bhatti .

& Lets not Forget even some of the DeBarge's have kids by African American women & those kids don's look like Omer Bhatti Some look like DeBarge's & I notice Some of El's & James Kids both look like Etterlene Krisinia & Her Cousin Adris ( El's Daughter ) both look a like & look like Bunny & Mrs.DeBarge & then you have Other Grand children who's Mothers are Black & some of them Look any were Between Biracial to African American & most have African features .

So If anything If Janet does Have A Kid Her Kid would Possibly look like her with A Little bit of James Or it could come out look just like Janet Or James with Some Color .

Omer however looks just like his Parents & looks Middle Eastern & White Just like his Parents Ritz & Pia Bhatti .

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Reply #348 posted 09/19/11 12:31pm

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Etterlene wants to turn her twocents into $$$.

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #349 posted 09/19/11 12:43pm

jax85

purplethunder3121 said:

Etterlene wants to turn her twocents into $$$.

LOL exactly cause Why wait until Now to want to Say Ohhhhhhh My Son told me it was A Boy & that I think its Omer Bhatti ..........LOL

I don't even believe James ever told her ass that I think She made it up to make it look like Her Son told her , when In fact Her Son James don't & won't talk to his Family about His Child or anything concerning this issue So I don't believe James told her A Damn thing I believe Her ass has made all of this Mess up & went to NE & told A Gossip Story To get A few Dollars .

& If she actually Believes this Crap then she is More Messed up then I thought . .......LOL

She only has twocents because her kids have use all the money for Drugs & cocaine ....LOL Hell she might be on Some Drugs with these Claims .

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[Edited 9/19/11 12:48pm]

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Reply #350 posted 09/19/11 12:52pm

Toxic

What kind of mother would continue to hurt sweet little innocent James, by telling this stuff to whoever would listen? Either she doesn't love James or it's just like you said, she's only out for a couple of dollars. In which case, if I were James, I would denounce her!

purplethunder3121 said:

Etterlene wants to turn her twocents into $$$.

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Reply #351 posted 09/19/11 5:33pm

jax85

Toxic said:

What kind of mother would continue to hurt sweet little innocent James, by telling this stuff to whoever would listen? Either she doesn't love James or it's just like you said, she's only out for a couple of dollars. In which case, if I were James, I would denounce her!

purplethunder3121 said:

Etterlene wants to turn her twocents into $$$.

Hell I'll be like Thats not my Mom ....LOL If I was him .

& What gets me is that She gets on Facebook & post up Religions Video's About the Lord & God & Praising the Lord . but then Go & throw her own Child under A moving bus Basically For A Dollar & I don't like it that She would do Janet this way & Janet has been Nice enough to not Trash her & her Family in the Public For throwning her Name around & alleging her to have A love Child .


Maining I think Of it this way If Her Son & Ex-Daughter In-Law aren't saying shit about them having A kid I as the Mother in this Case wouldn't talk neither & would keep Information about my Grandchild Private . Etterlene just seems to be A opportunist who uses any of her Grand kids & family members to gain money .

& If I was Janet's Child & I knew Etterlene did this to Me & my parents I wouldn't want anything to do with her as A Grand mother Because Its Also A Insult to The Child Especially If Its A Girl & Shes thrown out that its A Boy & its Omer Bhatti thats insulting your own Grand Child & their gender & who they are especially since she herself don't know anything about if its A Girl Or Boy Or if Janet ever even had the child or child for that matter .

I wonder what other Grand kid shes done this Shit too .

[Edited 9/19/11 18:00pm]

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Reply #352 posted 09/19/11 5:35pm

Timmy84

jax85 said:

Toxic said:

What kind of mother would continue to hurt sweet little innocent James, by telling this stuff to whoever would listen? Either she doesn't love James or it's just like you said, she's only out for a couple of dollars. In which case, if I were James, I would denounce her!

Hell I'll be like Thats not my Mom ....LOL If I was him .

& What gets me is that She gets on Facebook & post up Religions Video's About the Lord & God & Praising the Lord . but then Go & throw her own Child under A moving bus Basically For A Dollar & I don't like it that She would do Janet this way & Janet has been Nice enough to not Trash her & her Family in the Public For throwning her Name around & alleging her to have A love Child .


Maining I think Of it this way If Her Son & Ex-Daughter In-Law aren't saying shit about them having A kid I as the Mother in this Case wouldn't talk neither & would keep Information about my Grandchild Private . Etterlene just seems to be A opportunist who uses any of her Grand kids & family members to gain money .

& If I was Janet's Child & I knew Etterlene did this to Me & my parents I wouldn't want anything to do with her as A Grand mother Because Its Also A Insult to The Child Especially If Its A Girl & Shes thrown out that its A Boy & its Omer Bhatti thats insulting your own Grand Child & their gender & who they are .

I wonder what other Grand kid shes done this Shit too .

I know right? She's no different from all those who talk about "praise God, give God all the glory" but then turn around and judge you when your back's turned. confused

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Reply #353 posted 09/19/11 6:07pm

jax85

Timmy84 said:

jax85 said:

Hell I'll be like Thats not my Mom ....LOL If I was him .

& What gets me is that She gets on Facebook & post up Religions Video's About the Lord & God & Praising the Lord . but then Go & throw her own Child under A moving bus Basically For A Dollar & I don't like it that She would do Janet this way & Janet has been Nice enough to not Trash her & her Family in the Public For throwning her Name around & alleging her to have A love Child .


Maining I think Of it this way If Her Son & Ex-Daughter In-Law aren't saying shit about them having A kid I as the Mother in this Case wouldn't talk neither & would keep Information about my Grandchild Private . Etterlene just seems to be A opportunist who uses any of her Grand kids & family members to gain money .

& If I was Janet's Child & I knew Etterlene did this to Me & my parents I wouldn't want anything to do with her as A Grand mother Because Its Also A Insult to The Child Especially If Its A Girl & Shes thrown out that its A Boy & its Omer Bhatti thats insulting your own Grand Child & their gender & who they are .

I wonder what other Grand kid shes done this Shit too .

I know right? She's no different from all those who talk about "praise God, give God all the glory" but then turn around and judge you when your back's turned. confused

Exactly Just like her & her Daughter Carol are on Facebook talking about How people are doing them On Lipstick Alley , But their No Better then those on Lip Stick Alley because their doing the Same BS to Janet Now with going off to the Tab's & to NE & talking about Crap they don't even know & I'm not even sure If Janet knows Or is Aware of what Etterlene has done .

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Reply #354 posted 09/19/11 6:09pm

Timmy84

jax85 said:

Timmy84 said:

I know right? She's no different from all those who talk about "praise God, give God all the glory" but then turn around and judge you when your back's turned. confused

Exactly Just like her & her Daughter Carol are on Facebook talking about How people are doing them On Lipstick Alley , But their No Better then those on Lip Stick Alley because their doing the Same BS to Janet Now with going off to the Tab's & to NE & talking about Crap they don't even know & I'm not even sure If Janet knows Or is Aware of what Etterlene has done .

IKR? Like how gullible do they think they are thinking that they can't talk shit but get offended when it becomes the other way around?

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Reply #355 posted 09/19/11 6:14pm

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How the heck is this still going strong? confuse

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Reply #356 posted 09/19/11 6:24pm

jax85

Timmy84 said:

jax85 said:

Exactly Just like her & her Daughter Carol are on Facebook talking about How people are doing them On Lipstick Alley , But their No Better then those on Lip Stick Alley because their doing the Same BS to Janet Now with going off to the Tab's & to NE & talking about Crap they don't even know & I'm not even sure If Janet knows Or is Aware of what Etterlene has done .

IKR? Like how gullible do they think they are thinking that they can't talk shit but get offended when it becomes the other way around?

Heres the thing Etterlene Blocked me on Facebook after I E-mailed About WTH? is she talking about Omer been A DeBarge & i'm sure I'm not the ONLY One shes Blocked .

I'm like Blocking people is not going to Help her issues .......LOL she can Block all day its still not helping her Image & her Creditability .

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Reply #357 posted 09/19/11 6:25pm

jax85

Timmy84 said:

jax85 said:

Exactly Just like her & her Daughter Carol are on Facebook talking about How people are doing them On Lipstick Alley , But their No Better then those on Lip Stick Alley because their doing the Same BS to Janet Now with going off to the Tab's & to NE & talking about Crap they don't even know & I'm not even sure If Janet knows Or is Aware of what Etterlene has done .

IKR? Like how gullible do they think they are thinking that they can't talk shit but get offended when it becomes the other way around?

Heres the thing Etterlene Blocked me on Facebook after I E-mailed About WTH? is she talking about Omer been A DeBarge & i'm sure I'm not the ONLY One shes Blocked .

I'm like Blocking people is not going to Help her issues .......LOL she can Block all day its still not helping her Image & her Creditability .

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Reply #358 posted 09/19/11 7:42pm

Timmy84

jax85 said:

Timmy84 said:

IKR? Like how gullible do they think they are thinking that they can't talk shit but get offended when it becomes the other way around?

Heres the thing Etterlene Blocked me on Facebook after I E-mailed About WTH? is she talking about Omer been A DeBarge & i'm sure I'm not the ONLY One shes Blocked .

I'm like Blocking people is not going to Help her issues .......LOL she can Block all day its still not helping her Image & her Creditability .

lol she can't handle the truth that's why she blocked ya lol

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Reply #359 posted 09/19/11 10:46pm

jax85

Timmy84 said:

jax85 said:

Heres the thing Etterlene Blocked me on Facebook after I E-mailed About WTH? is she talking about Omer been A DeBarge & i'm sure I'm not the ONLY One shes Blocked .

I'm like Blocking people is not going to Help her issues .......LOL she can Block all day its still not helping her Image & her Creditability .

lol she can't handle the truth that's why she blocked ya lol

Exactly & I can not Believe people / Fans on her page are going along with this Bullcrap talking Yeah Mrs.DeBarge Omer Do look like James & The DeBarge's ........LOL

I'm like OK Did they Hear that Omer is Mikes Son & that Janet & James has A Daughter that The DeBarges themselves claimed was Named "Renee" & was raised by One of Janets Family members ......LOL

Like why are they Jumping on This Bandwagon too Just like With The "Renee" / Daughter thing Next year It'll Be Someone else & Another Girl ........LOL .

Cause Everyone should Remember them Claiming the Girl's Name was "Renee" & People Started Posting up Jackie Jackson's Daughter "Brandi" as Been Renee & Janet & James Daughter even though Brandi was born Years Earlier in 1982 .

Now Them Idiots are on this Omer been The Son & A DeBarge Bandwagon Once again With Them

I think Some fans are kissing asses & agreeing with Her Bullshit Which is not good cause what If they Find out it is A Girl they'll be looking Stupid if Its Actually A Daughter that Janet Had & her ass is going arounf thrown around its Omer for Attention which don't look good in her Favor.

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