The 1984 Video Of The Jackson Tour
Look closely Janet is in this Video & Does appear To look Very Pregnant
If you look she does look Pregnant So Was she Pregnant in 1984 instead of 1985 cause how can she be Pregnant in 1984 if she had the Baby in 1985 & in the Video It looks like shes at least 6 or 7 months Maybe not but it looks it , & lets not forget I don't think Janet was on Fame until Later in 1984 Because In early Episodes in 1984 of FAME they still had the girl who played CoCo & then it went into Jesse , & Lisa & Cleo in 1984 so Janet's Role as Cleo didn't start in the early parts of 1984 on FAME so could it be Possible she had the Baby in 1984 & was able to go & be on theshow in late 1984 & 85. & Etterlene & everyone are getting it mixed up as 1985 ??
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If MJ payed everything untill he died.Why was the house in foreclosure? Also the gas & electric was close to getting cut off to. MJ was in heavy debt at the time of his death. He borrowed totally against his Beatles catalog to help him get out of it & that still didn't help. Explain that? will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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carinemjj said: Actually Michael got the full own of the house in the 2000's because of the Korean case with the family, They (Jackson family) cancelled a show they said would feature Michael in Korea, and they owe money to the Korean company because of that (other) failure.
So since they don't want to give the Koreans the money, they put the house on Michael's name so Michael got all the crap and the Jacksons didn't have to deal with it anymore. That's also the reason why GLE (the upcoming disaster concert) gave a 100 000$ check to katherine saying it was a trust for MJ's kids.. cause if they'd have said it's just a check for Katherine, Koreans would have said, please hand us the check, thank you for your first payement. Does anyone remember the story coming out about Latoya's F up husband basically blackmailing the jacksons. Of course the story could have been made up because it was the national enquirer. I just thought it might be true because Latoya was doing so many outrageous things at that time. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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jax85 said: The 1984 Video Of The Jackson Tour
Look closely Janet is in this Video & Does appear To look Very Pregnant
If you look she does look Pregnant So Was she Pregnant in 1984 instead of 1985 cause how can she be Pregnant in 1984 if she had the Baby in 1985 & in the Video It looks like shes at least 6 or 7 months Maybe not but it looks it , & lets not forget I don't think Janet was on Fame until Later in 1984 Because In early Episodes in 1984 of FAME they still had the girl who played CoCo & then it went into Jesse , & Lisa & Cleo in 1984 so Janet's Role as Cleo didn't start in the early parts of 1984 on FAME so could it be Possible she had the Baby in 1984 & was able to go & be on in late 1984 & 85. I was not sure if it was 84 or 85. That is why I said 84/85. I just remember the season and that it coincided with Janet leaving Fame. I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to look up what year did Janet leave Fame and when she divorced James.
[Edited 9/9/11 13:50pm] [Edited 9/9/11 15:03pm] "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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jax85 said:[quote] The 1984 Video Of The Jackson Tour
Look closely Janet is in this Video & Does appear To look Very Pregnant
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didn't you just answer your own question? mj was in debt and probably didn't have the funds necesary to pay kat's bills the way he had in the past. jermaine's ex wrote in her book that mj paid for hayvenhurst and the people who lived there. that was confirmed by kat when he died and she told the court that she relied on mj to pay her bills. it has been suggested that kat didn't always use the money mj gave her to take care of her notes and bills, so that could be an explanation as to why her house was in foreclosure and lights were about to be cut off, too. | |
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Exactly. | |
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I think that is so tragic & sad all the money that family made & MJ had to support them with barely little money he had. Why didn't Janet step in? I know she paid the staff of Neverland when MJ went through his last trial. But Mj was at half a billion dollars at one point in his career. Where did all that damn money go? Katherine should have NEVER been in foreclosure! Its because them damn Jackson brothers & all them illegitimate kids. I'm sure she was paying there child support & supporting her pimp husband Joe(Who by the way was seeing a women that lived not far from my Grandmothers house)The whole neighborhood knew it to. This family is better than watching "Dynasty" The drama just never ends and the skeletons just continue to come out. will ALWAYS think of like a "ACT OF GOD"! N another realm. mean of all people who might of been aliens or angels.if found out that wasn't of this earth, would not have been that surprised. R.I.P. | |
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Michael had a couple of bad business deals and advisors around him who didn't give a damn about him or his money and was constantly dealing with legal issues. The week he announced the This Is It shows, there were about a couple lawsuits made against him. Raymone Bain sued him for $40 million dollars, Ola Ray and John Landis sued him for royalties from the Thriller video, and All Good Entertainment which signed an agreement with Frank Dileo (NOT Michael) sued him for $400 million dollars for a reunion concert PPV in Texas (the show the brothers were trying to get together during the reality show)
Michael was not only paying for Neverland and other homes, but he was paying for everything Katherine wanted or needed, along with his nephews and nieces' education (Janet helped too), helping his brothers out with their finances (remember, back in '87 right when Michael was moving out, Jermaine moved back in with his second wife and 2 new children and then Randy moved in with his baby momma, Alejandra)
I have no idea if Janet stepped in aside from helping with the nieces and nephews' education and general welfare, but she may have though. She's a helper "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I guess with them, everything can be true or made up, even if it's written, you just never know, so Latoya's story might be true, or not. Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
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Cause by watching the Youtube Video from 1984 , I'm like hold up I thought Janet was Pregnant in 1985 during her Departure from FAME , But seen this 1984 Video of her on Stage dancing & stuff I'm like either she had the Baby in 84" Or shes hiding 2 children some were cause to me it looks like shes Pregnant .
Etterlene maybe right about Janet having A Child or Maybe 2 Children , However her Take on of Talking to Trashy Magazines isn't going to cut it , Why? not Invite your Ex-Daughter in Law for Lunch or Dinner & talk it out in Private with her & your Son . | |
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Since Austin is born on Nov 22nd 1985, none of them (Janet nor Rebbie) is supposed to be pregnant of him during entire 1984 year. Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
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^ no I don't think there was 2 different times. I think we are getting the years mixed up. If the Fame thing happened in 1984 and that video was 1984 then I think she was pg in 1984. If that means that nephew is ruled out because he was born in 1985 then okay... He is ruled out. I don't think Janet and james were Pg twice. Either there is a child undetected or it is possible that she miscarried. It can happen. I am looking at pics of Beyonce who is maybe 8 weeks pg or possibly 2 nd trimester depending on who you believe. Bee's bump Is close to the size that Janet appears in that video. If Janet was only in late first timester or second trimester then it is possible that she had a problem pg and then with no baby there was no need to continue the marriage. Look at the tragedy that happened to Prince when he and Mayte tried to start a family. Sometimes sad things happen regardless of who you are, how famous you are or how much money you have. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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You are Aware that Brandi Jackson was Born in 1982 way before Janet was Pregnant & was before the Rumors started & she's Jackie's Daughter w/His late wife Enid .
Brandi was brought up in 2005 After James DeBarge's Brother "Darell"Young" DeBarge" went on the Radio doing the samething Claiming that His Brother & Janet had A Daughter Named "Renee" & that She was Raised by Janet's older Sister Rebbie .
Come to find out Darell later admited to lying & stated the Story was made up to sell his Album at the time . there for The Story of A Daughter was also Made up back in 2005 but I heard even in 1986 the Rumor was that Janet had A Daughter & this Rumor has never changed in the Gender of the Child until Now with Etterlene Claiming Now its A Son & Janet had A Baby Boy .
& Just like with Omer people started posting up Pictures of Brandi claiming she was "Renee" the Daughter of Janet & James DeBarge when In Fact Brandi was born years earlier in 1982 .
& I was told by A Friend of Brandi's that I'm Friends with that Brandi isn't even Adopted Which a lot of people have posted .
So Brandi Is ruled out she's not the Kid , No one not even The DeBarge's have A Real Clue to what happened Or even if Janet had the Baby .
thats why? I'm Shocked to know that Etterlene went to the Tabloids & she doesn't Know rather if Janet even had the Baby that her & her Family keeps claiming to had been born .
Plus I'm not Believing the DeBarge's due to now Etterlene thrown out accusations that its now A son Janet had & she believe's its Omer Bhatti , Yes he may had been born in 1985 in Norway but it doesn't mean hes Janet & James.
& Her Changing the Sex of the Child suddely also pokes out wanting & needing Money , Using Janet as her Meal ticket in Claiming accusation's that She don't know & I only see her as nothing but A Opitunist now after all this .
First they had Jackie's Daughter Brandi as the Kid & had her been A child named "Renee" & Raised by Rebbie & then it went from it been Rebbie to Janet's Brother Jackie & Wife Enid Adopting Brandi from Janet ........LOL , & Now the Mother Is coming out with it been A Boy & that she believes its Omer Bhatti .
I'm Sorry but seems to me like the DeBarge's are riding off of this Rumor & keeps using it each & every time they need to Sell A Book or Album Or just need Money they seem like Opitunist's When it comes to Janet Jackson In using her & her name to try to start Stories of her having A Child so they can make money .
Oportunist : practice of taking selfish advantage of circumstances, with little regard for principles. [Edited 9/12/11 17:57pm] [Edited 9/12/11 23:38pm] | |
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Don't know why but I get quite annoyed looking at Brandi's 2003 picture, even more so when you guys keep quoting her. | |
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I Get upset & anoyed by reading old Blogs & sites who posted The 2005 Story of Brandi been "Renee" & crap .
So you're not alone & I'm annoyed even more now seen that The Mother of the DeBarge's is yet at it again & claiming someone elses child as Janet & James's Baby . | |
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Remember when Darryl DeBarge brought it back up? | |
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Omer Bhatti to me looks like A Product of A White & Middle Eastern mix & it doesn't help that his Mother is White or French & His Father Possibly Pakastan or some type Middle eastern decent .
You can tell he has Middle Eastern in him & His Complextion is that of A Mixed Half White/Middle Eastern person Hes Dark with Dark Jet Black Hair but you can tell Someone ( Mother ) Is White .
Janet & James Would not be able to Produce A Child who looks Damn White & Middle Eastern decent , Their Child would look More Black maybe even the same skin Complexion as Janet's Niece "Steavenna" Randy's Daughter who's Mixed Black & Mother is of Persian Decent . | |
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I haven't heard this before , I know On YouTube theres A New Radio Interview that the Other Brother El DeBarge did when he was out Promoting his new Album not long ago & the Radio Host asked him about the Rumor of Him having A Niece with Janet Jackson & He didn't answer yes or No but claims hes heard about it & would like to meet the child .
But its always has been A Daughter A Baby girl , & thats why I believe Its A Girl , A Daughter that Janet had Not A Damn Boy I Just think Etterlene is wanting the truth & has Just used Omer Bhatti as A Example Of trying to get the Truth .
But I Believe Janet had & has A Daughter some were .
Cause Both EL & Darell have claimed its A Daughter , & The Rumors have always been Janet had A Daughter & Both have never Changed the Gender of The Child its always been A Daughter .
I just think Etterlene wants Attention , Wants Answers & wants her Grand-DAUGHTER & Just ran to Any Tabloid Mag who would listen to her & Used Omer as A Example , I Don't Believe Etterlene truly Believes Omer is The kid I Just think She Used him as A example & A Good Gossip story & to Draw Attention Back to Janet having A Child Cause anyone who sees Omer knows Hes not A Product of Janet & James DeBarge He looks White & Middle Eastern Indian . [Edited 9/12/11 18:35pm] [Edited 9/12/11 18:42pm] | |
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Well her saying it's a boy just made their alibi drop even more. | |
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Exactly After 26 years of the rumor been that of A Baby Girl been born . & Her using Omer Bhatti A Boy who Michael found in Norway at 6 years old who was impersonating him in A Hotel lobby & who's Family later Moved to the U.S. & Worked at Neverland for Mike Only discredits Her Credits of the Rumor & I personally Don't believe Jack she has to say any more .
& Omer Parents are Exactly White "Mother" & Father is Pakastan Or Iranian & their Names are Pia Bhatti ( Mother ) & Ritz Bhatti ( Father ) & They have A Daughter Named " Sitria Bhatti Who looks like Omer & Michael's Baby Boy Blanket ( Prince Michael II ) & thats why many Believe Omer is either Michael's Other Son Or He's Blankets Brother given the Fact Blanket & Omer both look Identical A like & its possible Michael loved Omer a lot & possibly wanted A Son who looks like Omer & I wouldn't Doubt it that Mike went & had Pia & Ritz to become Sperm Donors & Surrogate Mother for His own son Blanket After Debbie Rowe Couldn't have anymore Kids .
& If thats the Case I wonder what Etterlene Think Of Omer looking like Michael's Baby Boy "Blanket" & Omer & Blanket look like they could be blood Brothers & Michael's 3 Children call Omer Their Brother.
I Believe Either Omer is MJ's real Kid Or Mike went & had Pia & her husband to have A Baby for him Making Omer & Prince Michael II Brother's & thats why The Jackson's Are claiming Omer as Family Is Because Him & Blanket could be Brothers & it actually Sounds about right given the fact The Jackson's Claim Omer & Omer has been With the Family for awhile for years .
So my Thing is I Believe Either Michael & Pia have 2 Children Omer & Prince II Or Michael Liked the way Omer looked & went & asked Pia & her Husband to have A child for him who looks like Omer Making Omer & Mikes Son Blanket Brothers Of The Same Parents .
But Omer been A damn DeBarge I don't even think so , Omer Been Mikes Son Possible Or Mike asking Pia & Ritz to be A Sperm Donor for his Son Blanket VERY VERY POSSIBLE . [Edited 9/12/11 19:11pm] [Edited 9/12/11 19:16pm] | |
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& Thats what I think Might have happened Mike possibly liked Omers Looks & features & wanted A Son who looks like Omer & went & asked Pia & Her Husband to become Sperm Donors of His own Son Blanket & thats why Blanket looks so much like Omer because They're possibly are from the same damn parents & even though Blanket looks Latino/Hispanic to me He looks like he could be Mixed White & Middle Eastern like Omer Cause Omer Was the Same color & looked just like Blanket when he was blankets Age So its Very Possible For this ti had Happened since the 2 Kids Debbie & him had Don't look like Their Mixed Black nether I truly think She & him went & had A Sperm Donor done for Prince Michael Jr & Paris .
& That would Explain why The Jackson's Claim Omer is Cause Omer & Blanket Possibly Share the Same damn Parents . | |
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& Lets not forget Months after Mikes Death Both men Dr.Arnold Klein , & Mark Lester both came out with accusations that Michael asked them for Sperm to have kids & both Claimed they could be The Fathers Of 1 or Both Of Mike's 1st 2 Children , Mark Lester Claimed He Thinks Paris could be His Child & Dr.Klein Thinks he could be the Father of Both Children & at one point Dr.Klein wanted to be in The Children's life & was in Court trying to ask for Visitation rights but that has never came up as A True fact but was rumored that Dr. Klein wanted visits w/the kids cause he thought or think both Children are his & Mark Lester Is The Godfather of MJ's Children .
& I have to admit Paris looks like A Mini me Version of Debbie & Mark Lester & Prince Michael I (Jr) Looks Identical to Dr.Klein the Older he gets the more He looks the Dr.
So Mikes 2 Oldest Children look like the 2 Men who have claimed to have given Mike Sperm to Produce Children Ironically .
So It wouldn't be Fare Fetched of Michael going to the Bhatti's & asking them to be Sperm donor/Surrogate carriers for His last Child Blanket ( Prince Michael II ) & this is the reason why? I strongly think is the Reason why? The Jackson Family Is welcoming & Embraced Omer as Family is due to Him & blanket been Brothers Cause how else would you explain why The Jackson's are Claiming Omer as Family & had him in the front with the rest of Mikes Kids & The Jacksons may already know but aren't saying .
However Omer been a DeBarge & James & Janet's Son Not even Possible , However Omer been the Brother Of Mikes Baby Boy Blanket I think Maybe hitting A nail here & Sounds more Believable then Omer been A DeBarge Cause I can see Mike going to Pia & Ritz & asking them to Have Blanket for him .
& With Etterlene suddenly coming out with A New story & changing the Gender of the Child & using Omer Makes me only Believe shes not thinking & her story don't even add up or Match & why come out with Janet having A Son suddenly When for ever in years Its been rumored that Janet had or has A Daughter & Her 2 Son's Darell & El both have never stated that its A Boy they both have talked about it been A Girl & Janet having A Daughter So Etterlene maybe Just Flapping her Gums & just using Omer Bhatti , But Omer isn't the Kid I believe Omer & Blanket are Brothers & thats why? The Jackson's are so Welcoming to Omer .
So I mean Etterlene Should stick to The Daughter Rumor Or Just Stop this mess period & I Feel Bad For James's 4 other Children he has 4 other kids Includes Kristinia ( Oldest) , Tori ( Middle ) , Joshua , & A New Baby James DeBarge Jr . However I think only Kristinia is old enough to Understand whats going on the other 3 Kids are too young , However I would like to know how Kristinia feel about Her Grand-Mother & uncles spending so much time trying to find A Jackson/DeBarge kid & seems to not ever talk about how proud they are of her been in The Music Industry or Just simply talkng about them been proud of her I would really like to know how She feels about all this mess. [Edited 9/12/11 23:21pm] [Edited 9/12/11 23:29pm] | |
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You gotta admit,in that picture she looks just like a young Janet | |
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Actually the funny thing about it is If you put Brandi's Picture Beside James DeBarge's Picture when hes A Young Boy Brandi does look Identically like James as A young little Boy .
& If you think about it Brandi is the Only Child that Looks like James DeBarge the older she gets the more she looks like him When he was A young little boy & her Smile is like Janet's & this is why many thought or still think she's the Kid even if she was born in 1982 .
& I'm like Brandi does look like James DeBarge with Janet's Smile .......LOL she even has James damn Color complexion when he was A young little boy.
But Brandi also looks a lot like A lady Named Lori too .......LOL Lori was A Friend of Jackie & Enid's . | |
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& to be Honest with you I only see Janet in Brandi's Smile , But I see a lot of James DeBarge facial Feature wise , Hair & Color Complexion .
I'm like Omer looks nothing like James or any of the DeBarge Family , However Brandi looks Identical to James DeBarge & including around the mouth area the older the girl gets the More she looks like James & his Father Robert DeBarge .
I'm like I think Etterlene need to redo her thinking Cause Omer looks nothing like her Son James , However Jackie's Daughter Brandi looks Very Very much like James & the Family she looks like A spliting Image of James as A kid & I would had thought Etterlen would had picked Brandi out of all the kids cause she does look Identical to James , NOT DAMN OMER BHATTI COME ON NOW.
& It doesn't help that Brandi is the Only kid who looks close Enough to actually be passed a A DeBarge/Jackson Child . [Edited 9/13/11 7:58am] | |
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I don't know who I see in Brandi. She actually could look like whoever her mother was. What is Brandi's nationality? Anyone know? | |
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Jackie is African American & Enid was African American & Asian & They're Son Siggy Jr Looks like Her & Jackie .
Brandi doesn't look like Enid & Jackie's Son Siggy . Brandi looks like she could be Mix w/Black & white Or mix Black & Hispanic or Latino No one knows what Nationality Brandi maybe but she doesn't look like A Product of Jackie & Enid But then again you never know Brandi could be Jackie & Enid's Child just happened to come out light skinned .
But to me she looks very much like James & them damn DeBarge's & Janet with the Smile thats why so many people think or thought Brandi was the kid. | |
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The DeBarge family is all mixed up but none of them have Latino/Hispanic blood. I'm sorry but I can't see anywhere where she's a DeBarge. I can see WHY people would say it but I doubt it. | |
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