Diana Ross won 8 American Music Awards and been nominated for twelve Grammy Awards, but has never won a Grammy. Ross did win a Tony award for her one-woman show "An Evening with Diana Ross" in 1977.

Ross has had eighteen number one records in her career and was listed in the 1993 "Guinness Book of World Records" as the most successful female music artist in history. Ross has two stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, one for her solo career and one as a member of The Supremes.

Well what can one say? Maybe in the eyes of the top record mogals Beyonce epitomises the sterotypical image of black women. Seemingly this image is still alive and well in that black women are still protrayed as maids, or as sexually aggressive and overly promiscuous types.

Most of Beyonce's videos are very sexy in content, so she keeps the image of the "too hot to trot" cliche alive and well for many of today's (black) young women.

Not to mention her husband Jay-Zenomorph (spelled xenomorph), who has ignorantly shaped Beyonce's image, making her the video queen of glitterized slutism, frosted over with visual cryptic symbolic imagery. All the while she is the host while breeding a caste of body gyrating sub-beyonce morphs at the behest of the record company's top elite and exclusive club members. (wtf, sex sells and it's all about money-right?)

So the powers that be, are happy with the image Beyonce gives to the public. imo, young women who want to be like beyonce should be afraid, and be "very afraid."

PippiL said:

TonyVanDam said:

I can NOT believe that U2's The Joshua Tree won over Michael's Bad & Prince's Sign 'O' The Times. What kind of bullshit was that?!?

Honestly, it should've won over "Bad". "Sign O the Times" though, yeah - that would've been a fair fight.

Several critics at the time agreed SOTT should have won, but JT carried off the image of A Serious Album. Prince was disappointed for years after that.

And myself, I've watched the show twice in the 23 years since that night.

I respect JT, but SOTT was superior, remains superior, and should have won.

What category were SOTT and JT up for?

scriptgirl said:

What category were SOTT and JT up for?

Album of the Year, I presume.

namepeace said:

PippiL said:

Honestly, it should've won over "Bad". "Sign O the Times" though, yeah - that would've been a fair fight.

Several critics at the time agreed SOTT should have won, but JT carried off the image of A Serious Album. Prince was disappointed for years after that.

And myself, I've watched the show twice in the 23 years since that night.

I respect JT, but SOTT was superior, remains superior, and should have won.

SOTT might be superior, but JT had a bunch of hits. It was U2's most popular album to date. Sign had classic prince songs but really only U Got the Look was a big hit. It was most likely seen by some people as disappointing, since everything he did got compared to Purple Rain.

So I might agree with you, but I can see how Joshua Tree appears to be more of a classic album, concise and consistent, and Sign might be seen as spotty.

SeventeenDayze said:

Cause she wasn't married to a rap mogul/thug and isn't in an era of auto-tuned phony "singers" who mediocre singers seem like legends, compared to the no talent hacks (Rihanna) that are famous these days.

Most of Bey's Grammies were bought. That's what I think. Money and politics got her those Grammies. She even got a Grammy for singing "At Last" at the Obama Inaugural Ball. What kind of nonsense is that? Yeah, the Grammies are a BIG joke!

Mong said:

Beyonce deserves a Grammy WAY more than Diana Ross.

Diana Ross is a very weak singer and has never come across as likeable. Beyonce's far more charismatic and you can't fault her vocals. Gorgeous too.

Here's the thing though....Diana has amazing songs in her catalog.Songs that are now considered 'classic'.A song like "Do You Know Where You're Going To" is more Grammy-worthy than crap like "Single Ladies".

How did Bouncy get a nom for singing At Last at the Inaguaration?

scriptgirl said:

How did Bouncy get a nom for singing At Last at the Inaguaration?

She won for best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance. My guess is they turned it into a single.

Paris9748430 said:

scriptgirl said:

How did Bouncy get a nom for singing At Last at the Inaguaration?

She won for best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance. My guess is they turned it into a single.

Yeah it peaked at number 79 on the R&B chart.

This Bouncy shit has gotten outta hand

scriptgirl said:

This Bouncy shit has gotten outta hand

tears rolling out my eyes

scriptgirl said:

This Bouncy shit has gotten outta hand

Timmy and Ms Trina, I don't see what's so funny?

scriptgirl said:

Timmy and Ms Trina, I don't see what's so funny?

It ain't what you said, it's HOW you said it.

RnBAmbassador said:

Who in their right mind would vote for Diane Ross as Best Female R&B Performance?

The same ones who voted for Nippy in the R&B field.

kitbradley said:

RnBAmbassador said:

Who in their right mind would vote for Diane Ross as Best Female R&B Performance?

The same ones who voted for Nippy in the R&B field.

I've never agreed with the prevailing opinion that she's pure pop. I think she effortlessly crossed between the two. The way I see it, it was split pretty evenly:

You Give Good Love - R&B

Saving All My Love for You - Pop

How Will I Know - Pop

Greatest Love of All - R&B

I Wanna Dance With Somebody - Pop

Didn't We Almost Have It All - R&B

So Emotional - Pop

Where Do Broken Hearts Go - R&B

I'm Your Baby Tonight - Pop

All the Man I Need - R&B

My Name Is Not Susan - R&B

I Belong to You - R&B

Mong said:

Beyonce deserves a Grammy WAY more than Diana Ross.

Diana Ross is a very weak singer and has never come across as likeable. Beyonce's far more charismatic and you can't fault her vocals. Gorgeous too.

Your opinion. My opinion is Beyonce is a mediocre singer with ZERO originality who sings nothing but silly, empty dance-Pop songs and I don't think she's very likeable at all. And as far as her being gorgeous, if you call looking like a ghetto Barbie doll gorgeous, then fine.

If her father wasn't who he is in the business and she wasn't married to JZ, I highly doubt she would have garnered 16 Grammys in such a short period of time.

AlexdeParis said:

kitbradley said:

The same ones who voted for Nippy in the R&B field.

I've never agreed with the prevailing opinion that she's pure pop. I think she effortlessly crossed between the two. The way I see it, it was split pretty evenly:

You Give Good Love - R&B

Saving All My Love for You - Pop

How Will I Know - Pop

Greatest Love of All - R&B

I Wanna Dance With Somebody - Pop

Didn't We Almost Have It All - R&B

So Emotional - Pop

Where Do Broken Hearts Go - R&B

I'm Your Baby Tonight - Pop

All the Man I Need - R&B

My Name Is Not Susan - R&B

I Belong to You - R&B

Same with Diane. That's why they dubbed Nippy the new Diana Ross back in the day. Neither were never totally Pop. But their music, for the most part, was always geared a lot towards that audience.

scriptgirl said:

How did Bouncy get a nom for singing At Last at the Inaguaration?

That is some B.S.!!!! I guess they are letting any old dog or cat off the streets submit Grammy nominations these days???

I still remember Etta James' comments about Beyonce being included in the inaugural ball singing "At Last" and not her.

Timmy84 said:

Paris9748430 said:

She won for best Traditional R&B Vocal Performance. My guess is they turned it into a single.

Yeah it peaked at number 79 on the R&B chart.

OK, so should Chart success factor into a Grammy win?

Paris9748430 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it peaked at number 79 on the R&B chart.

OK, so should Chart success factor into a Grammy win?

Nah people voted her to win lol

Timmy84 said:

I still remember Etta James' comments about Beyonce being included in the inaugural ball singing "At Last" and not her.

I am still confused as to why Obama didnt ask ETTA to do it herself. We know its not her song but she is most famous for her cover of it. I guess because Beyonce being a big pop star now he asked her instead of Etta. Etta had a big ass diva moment about it to

SoulAlive said:

Mong said:

Beyonce deserves a Grammy WAY more than Diana Ross.

Diana Ross is a very weak singer and has never come across as likeable. Beyonce's far more charismatic and you can't fault her vocals. Gorgeous too.

Here's the thing though....Diana has amazing songs in her catalog.Songs that are now considered 'classic'.A song like "Do You Know Where You're Going To" is more Grammy-worthy than crap like "Single Ladies".

Between the Supremes and her solo career, Diana's had an insane amount of hits. But she should've put her ego aside w/ Mary Wilson and just did the tour. They had to scrap the tour anyway.

mjscarousal said:

Timmy84 said:

I still remember Etta James' comments about Beyonce being included in the inaugural ball singing "At Last" and not her.

I am still confused as to why Obama didnt ask ETTA to do it herself. We know its not her song but she is most famous for her cover of it. I guess because Beyonce being a big pop star now he asked her instead of Etta. Etta had a big ass diva moment about it to

That's the only reason I could see Barack asking Beyonce and not Etta. Plus they got two young girls who are Beyonce fans anyways. It's kinda sad though because this was right after Etta's remarks that Etta started getting sick.

dalsh327 said:

SoulAlive said:

Here's the thing though....Diana has amazing songs in her catalog.Songs that are now considered 'classic'.A song like "Do You Know Where You're Going To" is more Grammy-worthy than crap like "Single Ladies".

Between the Supremes and her solo career, Diana's had an insane amount of hits. But she should've put her ego aside w/ Mary Wilson and just did the tour. They had to scrap the tour anyway.

Both Diana and Mary have MAD ego problems. It's just that people are trying to excuse Mary's deal but she's worse than Diana when it comes to ego. Who knows what went on with the Supremes in Diana's mind since she's hardly talked about it while Mary and Florence (in a way) had presented their sides.

NDRU said:

namepeace said:

Several critics at the time agreed SOTT should have won, but JT carried off the image of A Serious Album. Prince was disappointed for years after that.

And myself, I've watched the show twice in the 23 years since that night.

I respect JT, but SOTT was superior, remains superior, and should have won.

SOTT might be superior, but JT had a bunch of hits. It was U2's most popular album to date. Sign had classic prince songs but really only U Got the Look was a big hit. It was most likely seen by some people as disappointing, since everything he did got compared to Purple Rain.

So I might agree with you, but I can see how Joshua Tree appears to be more of a classic album, concise and consistent, and Sign might be seen as spotty.

All true, all reasons why JT did win.

Yeah, I can see the spotty argument re SOTT