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Reply #30 posted 08/21/11 9:06am

HohnerCatcher

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http://www.impawards.com/..._blues.jpg

http://www.impawards.com/...hogany.jpg

I just noticed that the two movie posters in the start of my thread are not showing! mad

Thanks for posting even though it was such an obvious fail! lol

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Reply #31 posted 08/21/11 9:07am

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It cracks me up that everytime a black Oscar nominee is mentioned within this forum, THEY WERE ROBBED!!

lol

Ross was up against a career defining role by Liza Minnelli. She won all the other major awards that season. The film was directed by the red hot Bob Fosse. Sure, Ross was great in Blues but to say she was robbed is just forgetting historical context.

And while I am on the subject, no, Angela Bassett was not robbed either. WLGTDWI is a weak ass film and Bassett's nomination was reward in of itself. She lost to Holly Hunter who played a freaken mute. A mute! And Hunter owned that screen and carried that film without saying a word in a film that was just mindblowing. Bassett's film was a couple steps above a Lifetime movie of the week. So no, Bassett wasn't robbed either.

You know who was robbed? Ms. Goldberg for The Colored Purple and Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls. Those are robs!

Yep. My thoughts exactly, but Diana should've gotten that prize. I'll like to add Denzel to that list for Malcolm X as well! razz biggrin

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Reply #32 posted 08/21/11 9:07am

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Lady Sings The Blues

Mahongany was a very bad movie with a horrible script, I mean really. lol The only saving grace was the theme song, which should've won an Oscar. Awards shows and popularity... wink

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Reply #33 posted 08/21/11 11:26am

Timmy84

silverchild said:

sosgemini said:

It cracks me up that everytime a black Oscar nominee is mentioned within this forum, THEY WERE ROBBED!!

lol

Ross was up against a career defining role by Liza Minnelli. She won all the other major awards that season. The film was directed by the red hot Bob Fosse. Sure, Ross was great in Blues but to say she was robbed is just forgetting historical context.

And while I am on the subject, no, Angela Bassett was not robbed either. WLGTDWI is a weak ass film and Bassett's nomination was reward in of itself. She lost to Holly Hunter who played a freaken mute. A mute! And Hunter owned that screen and carried that film without saying a word in a film that was just mindblowing. Bassett's film was a couple steps above a Lifetime movie of the week. So no, Bassett wasn't robbed either.

You know who was robbed? Ms. Goldberg for The Colored Purple and Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls. Those are robs!

Yep. My thoughts exactly, but Diana should've gotten that prize. I'll like to add Denzel to that list for Malcolm X as well! razz biggrin

I agree to some level with what sos was saying. I loved Liza's role in Cabaret.

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Reply #34 posted 08/21/11 2:06pm

Harlepolis

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Now here's a question that will throw us for a loop...which soundtrack was better (Lady Sings The Blues or Mahogany)? We all know Lady Sings The Blues is gonna be mostly everyone's choice, but the Mahogany soundtrack had beautiful instrumentals that I just love.

For the the Cat Fight instrumental alone. Michael Masser showed it with those instrumentals.

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Reply #35 posted 08/21/11 4:02pm

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My vote goes to Mahogany.

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Reply #36 posted 08/21/11 4:03pm

TonyVanDam

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Harlepolis said:

Mahogany

Despite the fashion siren goes back with hubby to the ghetto plot lol

I've already made my feelings pretty clear about the other mess.

So how do you think a film like Mahogany should have ended?

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Reply #37 posted 08/21/11 4:29pm

Harlepolis

TonyVanDam said:

Harlepolis said:

Mahogany

Despite the fashion siren goes back with hubby to the ghetto plot lol

I've already made my feelings pretty clear about the other mess.

So how do you think a film like Mahogany should have ended?

She should've told his greasy ass to go fuck himself and stayed in Italy.

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Reply #38 posted 08/21/11 4:44pm

TD3

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Harlepolis said:



TonyVanDam said:




Harlepolis said:


Mahogany



Despite the fashion siren goes back with hubby to the ghetto plot lol



I've already made my feelings pretty clear about the other mess.




So how do you think a film like Mahogany should have ended?


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She should've told his greasy ass to go fuck himself and stayed in Italy.




Redraft of the script.

Brian: Do you know where you're going to?

Tracy: He'll yeah, and it's not back to south side of Chicago with your broke ass. Ciao!
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Reply #39 posted 08/21/11 4:45pm

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Harlepolis said:

TonyVanDam said:

So how do you think a film like Mahogany should have ended?

She should've told his greasy ass to go fuck himself and stayed in Italy.

But doesn't that equal to "selling out"? Whatever happen to "Be True To The Game"? omg

BTW, moving back to the ghetto was a bad idea. The brotha could at least move to the interracial suburbs. cool

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Reply #40 posted 08/21/11 4:49pm

TD3

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TonyVanDam said:



Harlepolis said:




TonyVanDam said:




So how do you think a film like Mahogany should have ended?




She should've told his greasy ass to go fuck himself and stayed in Italy.




But doesn't that equal to "selling out"? Whatever happen to "Be True




To The Game"? omg





BTW, moving back to the ghetto was a bad idea. The brotha could at least move to the interracial suburbs. cool





No such thing in the greater Chicago area back then (Hyde Park the exception), hell I'll argue not now.. still. lol

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Reply #41 posted 08/21/11 5:17pm

Entertainer

Lady sings the blues- heartbreaking to watch and Diana owned that role. Very believable.

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Reply #42 posted 08/21/11 5:48pm

HohnerCatcher

TD3 said:

Mahongany was a very bad movie with a horrible script, I mean really. lol The only saving grace was the theme song, which should've won an Oscar. Awards shows and popularity... wink

omg that is my favorite song by her

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Reply #43 posted 08/21/11 6:43pm

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TD3 said:

Mahongany was a very bad movie with a horrible script, I mean really. lol The only saving grace was the theme song, which should've won an Oscar. Awards shows and popularity... wink

omg that is my favorite song by her

nod

The orchestral arrangement for "theme of Mahogany" is perfect. The lyrics of that song had a hell lot more credibility and substance than sappy "Evergreen"; which won, Academy Award for Best Original Song. The 17th version of "A Star Is Born" was a bad movie too; I'm sure Judy Garland was rolling over in her grave. lol

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Reply #44 posted 08/21/11 6:49pm

Harlepolis

TD3 said:

HohnerCatcher said:

omg that is my favorite song by her

nod

The orchestral arrangement for "theme of Mahogany" is perfect. The lyrics of that song had a hell lot more credibility and substance than sappy "Evergreen"; which won, Academy Award for Best Original Song. The 17th version of "A Star Is Born" was a bad movie too; I'm sure Judy Garland was rolling over in her grave. lol

Uh, paws off, Miss Trina hmph! You're not gonna talk smack about this film, not in my watch.

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Reply #45 posted 08/21/11 6:54pm

Timmy84

Funny some of you would love to see Diana still in Italy in the film but if she did you still be criticizing her black ass. lol razz

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Reply #46 posted 08/21/11 7:07pm

SoulAlive

TD3 said:

HohnerCatcher said:

omg that is my favorite song by her

nod

The orchestral arrangement for "theme of Mahogany" is perfect. The lyrics of that song had a hell lot more credibility and substance than sappy "Evergreen"; which won, Academy Award for Best Original Song. The 17th version of "A Star Is Born" was a bad movie too; I'm sure Judy Garland was rolling over in her grave. lol

I agree! That's one of Diana's best songs.I love the lyrics,the orchestral arrangement,the vocals...it's such a haunting,captivating song music

and yes,the 1976 "A Star Is Born" movie is terrible.Kris Kristofferson's character was so annoying that I was actually cheering his death at the end boxed lol

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Reply #47 posted 08/21/11 7:38pm

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lol

Harlepolis said:

TD3 said:

nod

The orchestral arrangement for "theme of Mahogany" is perfect. The lyrics of that song had a hell lot more credibility and substance than sappy "Evergreen"; which won, Academy Award for Best Original Song. The 17th version of "A Star Is Born" was a bad movie too; I'm sure Judy Garland was rolling over in her grave. lol

Uh, paws off, Miss Trina hmph! You're not gonna talk smack about this film, not in my watch.

Oh, I like the movie, Judy Garland's version. I didn't like the 17th version (Streisand's) of this movie, it was a hot mess. Kris could've done us all a favor and ran off the damn road in the first twenty minutes of the film.

THE END, with Streisand singing Everygreen... lol

'Love soft as an easy chair
Love fresh as the morning air
One love that is shared by two
I have found with you'

Don't make me gag... lol lol

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Reply #48 posted 08/21/11 7:42pm

TD3

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SoulAlive said:

TD3 said:

nod

The orchestral arrangement for "theme of Mahogany" is perfect. The lyrics of that song had a hell lot more credibility and substance than sappy "Evergreen"; which won, Academy Award for Best Original Song. The 17th version of "A Star Is Born" was a bad movie too; I'm sure Judy Garland was rolling over in her grave. lol

I agree! That's one of Diana's best songs.I love the lyrics,the orchestral arrangement,the vocals...it's such a haunting,captivating song music

and yes,the 1976 "A Star Is Born" movie is terrible.Kris Kristofferson's character was so annoying that I was actually cheering his death at the end boxed lol

You too Soul? This isn't a good thing.... the movie is dead on arrival. lol

See Harle, proof! lol lol lol Girl come on now. biggrin

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Reply #49 posted 08/21/11 8:01pm

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Timmy84 said:

Funny some of you would love to see Diana still in Italy in the film but if she did you still be criticizing her black ass. lol razz

Exactly.

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Reply #50 posted 08/21/11 8:29pm

TD3

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Timmy84 said:

Funny some of you would love to see Diana still in Italy in the film but if she did you still be criticizing her black ass. lol razz

Darling speak for yourself. razz razz razz

lol

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Reply #51 posted 08/22/11 12:04am

Harlepolis

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

Funny some of you would love to see Diana still in Italy in the film but if she did you still be criticizing her black ass. lol razz

Darling speak for yourself. razz razz razz

lol

I was cackling when I saw Billy Dee "The Grease Factory" Williams tell her "Success is nothing, without a man to share it with" barf falloff

Now see, they could've used that bullshit to their advantage right there and managed to portray her in a cool light as opposed to the pathetic bullshit ending, but NOOOOOO what do they do? Fly her back to Chicago in the ghetto, GTFOHWTB, you could've told me she was selling bean pies in Harlem with him and it could've even sounded more realistic lol

I know, I know, its just a movie rolleyes lol But I'm just saying.

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Reply #52 posted 08/22/11 12:07am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

I agree! That's one of Diana's best songs.I love the lyrics,the orchestral arrangement,the vocals...it's such a haunting,captivating song music

and yes,the 1976 "A Star Is Born" movie is terrible.Kris Kristofferson's character was so annoying that I was actually cheering his death at the end boxed lol

You too Soul? This isn't a good thing.... the movie is dead on arrival. lol

See Harle, proof! lol lol lol Girl come on now. biggrin

biggrin that movie is a hot mess.

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Reply #53 posted 08/22/11 12:13am

Harlepolis

SoulAlive said:

TD3 said:

You too Soul? This isn't a good thing.... the movie is dead on arrival. lol

See Harle, proof! lol lol lol Girl come on now. biggrin

biggrin that movie is a hot mess.

falloff

Ya'll need Jesus disbelief

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Reply #54 posted 08/22/11 1:16am

Timmy84

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

Funny some of you would love to see Diana still in Italy in the film but if she did you still be criticizing her black ass. lol razz

Darling speak for yourself. razz razz razz

lol

Sure. Suuuurrrre. whistling biggrin

lol

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Reply #55 posted 08/22/11 11:30am

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"Lady Sings The Blues" is the better movie for sure, but the subject is too heavy handed for me to watch often. I have it on VHS (Yes I still have a VCR! Along with a DVD player) but only watch it once every few years. It just makes me so sad at how Billie Holiday's life turned out and yes I know the movie wasn't true to Billie's life in many ways, but either way she had a tragic ending and the movie often makes me sad, but Diana did a great job in it. She's a natural.

I prefer "Mahogany" for replay value however. It's so cheesy and campy, but I love the fabulous outfits Diana wears and who can forget the over the top scene where Anthony Perkin's character tries to kill Tracy in the car?

"Take the picture Sean....." falloff

Lmaooooooooooo@ Diana's facial expressions in that scene.

I love "Mahogany".

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THIS! ^ You took the words right outta my mouth! LSTB is the better movie but I choose Mahogany because of its cheesy, campy soap-like drama. And that scene where A. Perkins tries to kill Tracy in the car? Classic. So HILARIOUS!

Take the picture! TAKE THE FREAKIN PICTURE!!!

falloff lol lol lol

Mahogany FTW!

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Reply #56 posted 08/22/11 11:32am

kibbles

sosgemini said:

It cracks me up that everytime a black Oscar nominee is mentioned within this forum, THEY WERE ROBBED!!

lol

Ross was up against a career defining role by Liza Minnelli. She won all the other major awards that season. The film was directed by the red hot Bob Fosse. Sure, Ross was great in Blues but to say she was robbed is just forgetting historical context.

And while I am on the subject, no, Angela Bassett was not robbed either. WLGTDWI is a weak ass film and Bassett's nomination was reward in of itself. She lost to Holly Hunter who played a freaken mute. A mute! And Hunter owned that screen and carried that film without saying a word in a film that was just mindblowing. Bassett's film was a couple steps above a Lifetime movie of the week. So no, Bassett wasn't robbed either.

You know who was robbed? Ms. Goldberg for The Colored Purple and Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls. Those are robs!

i co-signed your post all the way, until you got here. i hated the color purple. there is something about it that is so contrived, i always hate when the "bad" characters are cartoon villains, and the "good" ones are so saintly as not to be believed. no nuance to the characters and there is a superficiality to the film that i can't quite put my finger on. hated the movie, hated the book, and when i had the opportunity to see the play, i turned my cousin down because i knew that was going to be 2 hours of my life i would have regretted giving up. whoopi did fine, everyone did fine, but hated the film. i liked her better in the film she did win for, 'ghosts'.

saw dreamsgirls. same thing you said about angela in 'what's love', in my mind applies to eddie and dreamgirls. weak ass movie, and if he was going to nominated he should have gotten one for bowfinger(?), the one with steve martin.

(btw, my vote is for lady sings the blues.)

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Reply #57 posted 08/22/11 11:36am

Timmy84

kibbles said:

sosgemini said:

It cracks me up that everytime a black Oscar nominee is mentioned within this forum, THEY WERE ROBBED!!

lol

Ross was up against a career defining role by Liza Minnelli. She won all the other major awards that season. The film was directed by the red hot Bob Fosse. Sure, Ross was great in Blues but to say she was robbed is just forgetting historical context.

And while I am on the subject, no, Angela Bassett was not robbed either. WLGTDWI is a weak ass film and Bassett's nomination was reward in of itself. She lost to Holly Hunter who played a freaken mute. A mute! And Hunter owned that screen and carried that film without saying a word in a film that was just mindblowing. Bassett's film was a couple steps above a Lifetime movie of the week. So no, Bassett wasn't robbed either.

You know who was robbed? Ms. Goldberg for The Colored Purple and Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls. Those are robs!

i co-signed your post all the way, until you got here. i hated the color purple. there is something about it that is so contrived, i always hate when the "bad" characters are cartoon villains, and the "good" ones are so saintly as not to be believed. no nuance to the characters and there is a superficiality to the film that i can't quite put my finger on. hated the movie, hated the book, and when i had the opportunity to see the play, i turned my cousin down because i knew that was going to be 2 hours of my life i would have regretted giving up. whoopi did fine, everyone did fine, but hated the film. i liked her better in the film she did win for, 'ghosts'.

saw dreamsgirls. same thing you said about angela in 'what's love', in my mind applies to eddie and dreamgirls. weak ass movie, and if he was going to nominated he should have gotten one for bowfinger(?), the one with steve martin.

(btw, my vote is for lady sings the blues.)

Something used to bother me about "The Color Purple", I don't know what it is but you know every time someone mentions the movie now, it's often as something to be made fun of, especially Oprah's "you told Harpo to beat me" line. Dreamgirls SUCKED ass! It just did. As for "What's Love", what could've been a great film was hampered by inaccuracies, a not-so-good script and a little uneasiness. Larry & Angela were the only saving graces in that film like Eddie was the only saving grace in "Dreamgirls".

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Reply #58 posted 08/22/11 11:37am

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Lady Sings the Blues for the acting. Mahogany is just fun to watch and the theme song is killer.

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Reply #59 posted 08/22/11 11:41am

kibbles

TD3 said:

SoulAlive said:

I agree! That's one of Diana's best songs.I love the lyrics,the orchestral arrangement,the vocals...it's such a haunting,captivating song music

and yes,the 1976 "A Star Is Born" movie is terrible.Kris Kristofferson's character was so annoying that I was actually cheering his death at the end boxed lol

You too Soul? This isn't a good thing.... the movie is dead on arrival. lol

See Harle, proof! lol lol lol Girl come on now. biggrin

okay, now i have very, very fond memories of this movie. maybe you can put it down to the fact that i was young, maybe it was the jet lag, i don't know.

my cousin and her friend took me and my brother to this movie our first night in chicago, and i remember crying when kris kicked off. what about the part where she's alone in the manse, and she hears his voice downstairs and goes running only to find it was a tape recorder? you guys are just heartless! lol

and nobody likes 'evergreen'? come on! i don't like it more than the theme from mahogany, but still.... it's one of babs' best! lol

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