Ellie said:

Awesome quote I just read on that site form LCD Soundsystem:

“That Black Eyed Peas Dirty Dancing thing is worse than raping a cat. What is wrong with people? Do they hate ears?”

sosgemini said:

Timmy84 said:

Because R. Kelly apparently disrespected him during some supposed duet they had.

So he calls him an elephant dick? Isn't that a compliment?

No. You're reading the comment the wrong way.

He's not describing R.Kelly; he's saying what should be done to him!

Lammastide said:

sosgemini said:

So he calls him an elephant dick? Isn't that a compliment?

No. You're reading the comment the wrong way.

He's not describing R.Kelly; he's saying what should be done to him!

DING DING DING! Exactly.

Don't forget what Whitney said about Diana Ross when they were thinking of doing Dreamgirls as a movie way back in the 80's. They wanted Whitney to play the Deena Jones role and Diana felt she should play it. When they asked Whitney how she felt about it she said, "Well what are they going to call it Dreamgrannies?" lolololol. I died when I read that.

grethomory said:

Don't forget what Whitney said about Diana Ross when they were thinking of doing Dreamgirls as a movie way back in the 80's. They wanted Whitney to play the Deena Jones role and Diana felt she should play it. When they asked Whitney how she felt about it she said, "Well what are they going to call it Dreamgrannies?" lolololol. I died when I read that.

For some reason I don't believe this story. Maybe it's because, well, Diana hated "Dreamgirls" so why would she even agreed to participate? All I heard was Whitney was on bill to do it but it fell flat.

grethomory said:

Don't forget what Whitney said about Diana Ross when they were thinking of doing Dreamgirls as a movie way back in the 80's. They wanted Whitney to play the Deena Jones role and Diana felt she should play it. When they asked Whitney how she felt about it she said, "Well what are they going to call it Dreamgrannies?" lolololol. I died when I read that.

Nippy said WHAT? When was this?

Oddly after Trent's rant against Marilyn, the two made up and Marilyn appeared in NIN's "Starfuckers" video.

Timmy84 said:

Oddly after Trent's rant against Marilyn, the two made up and Marilyn appeared in NIN's "Starfuckers" video.

For a song that was at least partly about him. But yeah, they made nicey nice. Never really worked together again, though (to the best of my knowledge anyway, I lost interest in MM way back at the beginning).

Cerebus said:

Timmy84 said:

Oddly after Trent's rant against Marilyn, the two made up and Marilyn appeared in NIN's "Starfuckers" video.

For a song that was at least partly about him. But yeah, they made nicey nice. Never really worked together again, though (to the best of my knowledge anyway, I lost interest in MM way back at the beginning).

Yeah they still ain't worked on nothing together since. The Trent-produced MM material was their best.

I'd like a separate list of Steve Alibin's harshest musician insults. I don't always agree, and he can be a bit of a prick, but he's always entertaining and the insults are usually zingers.

13. Rick James on Prince
“A little short ego-ed fucker who I had a feeling didn’t like people of his own race and wanted to be white and taller.”

Wow. Can't say that he's wrong tho.

Timmy84 said:

Cerebus said:

For a song that was at least partly about him. But yeah, they made nicey nice. Never really worked together again, though (to the best of my knowledge anyway, I lost interest in MM way back at the beginning).

Yeah they still ain't worked on nothing together since. The Trent-produced MM material was their best.

Timmy84, you need to be slapped. Sure, Antichrist Superstar was great, arguably his best album, but do you really believe that Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children are superior to Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood?

rialb said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah they still ain't worked on nothing together since. The Trent-produced MM material was their best.

Timmy84, you need to be slapped. Sure, Antichrist Superstar was great, arguably his best album, but do you really believe that Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children are superior to Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood?

I do. He very quickly became more about the spectacle, controversy and image of Marilyn Manson and not the music to anybody other than his hard core fans. He lost me with the Dope Show and the constant firing of his band.

Layzie said:

13. Rick James on Prince
“A little short ego-ed fucker who I had a feeling didn’t like people of his own race and wanted to be white and taller.”

Wow. Can't say that he's wrong tho.

Rick talked alot of mess back then Some other comments he made about Prince:

You can't take his music seriously.He sings songs about oral sex and incest.Something else....he doesn't want to be black.It's my job to keep reality over this science fiction creep.And if he doesn't like what I'm saying about him,he can kiss my ass.

rialb said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah they still ain't worked on nothing together since. The Trent-produced MM material was their best.

Timmy84, you need to be slapped. Sure, Antichrist Superstar was great, arguably his best album, but do you really believe that Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children are superior to Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood?

I love those albums as well.

Cerebus said:

rialb said:

Timmy84, you need to be slapped. Sure, Antichrist Superstar was great, arguably his best album, but do you really believe that Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children are superior to Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood?

I do. He very quickly became more about the spectacle, controversy and image of Marilyn Manson and not the music to anybody other than his hard core fans. He lost me with the Dope Show and the constant firing of his band.

I think with Portrait, Smells Like Children and Antichrist, MM was on some other level. It was helped by Trent. He had dope material afterwards and there's a lot of genius in Holy Wood but something about those first three I named that ring out as special to me.

coltrane3 said:

I'd like a separate list of Steve Alibin's harshest musician insults. I don't always agree, and he can be a bit of a prick, but he's always entertaining and the insults are usually zingers.

Albini, in response to a newspaper article that praised Liz Phair and The Smashing Pumpkins

....you are making the case that Liz Phair and the Smashing Pumpkins are somehow unique in rock music because they are brazenly trying to sell records......These are not "alternative" artists any more than their historical precursors. They are by, of and for the mainstream. Liz Phair is Rickie Lee Jones (more talked about than heard, a persona completely unrooted in substance, and a fucking chore to listen to), Smashing Pumpkins are REO Speedwagon (stylistically appropriate for the current college party scene, but ultimately insignificant).

This coming from the guy who produced Bush. He seems to embody the ridiculous snobbery, hypocrisy, and iconoclasm of the whole indie/pitchfork dig-the-populist-shit-only-in-an-ironical-way hipster world.

I can really get into some of the stuff he's been involved with though, like The Jesus Lizard and Big Black, btu his production style irks me. It's dry, the guitars are really upfront and harsh, and the vocals are buried.

Cerebus said:

rialb said:

Timmy84, you need to be slapped. Sure, Antichrist Superstar was great, arguably his best album, but do you really believe that Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children are superior to Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood?

I do. He very quickly became more about the spectacle, controversy and image of Marilyn Manson and not the music to anybody other than his hard core fans. He lost me with the Dope Show and the constant firing of his band.

You need to be slapped too.

I don't know, the songs on Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children are pretty weak to my ears. I would argue that in the beginning he was mostly image with very little to back it up musically but starting with Antichrist Superstar and continuing with Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood he finally started delivering great music to go along with the image. Certainly the early stuff is much less commercial sounding than the middle period stuff.

rialb said:

Cerebus said:

I do. He very quickly became more about the spectacle, controversy and image of Marilyn Manson and not the music to anybody other than his hard core fans. He lost me with the Dope Show and the constant firing of his band.

You need to be slapped too.

I don't know, the songs on Portrait of an American Family and Smells Like Children are pretty weak to my ears. I would argue that in the beginning he was mostly image with very little to back it up musically but starting with Antichrist Superstar and continuing with Mechanical Animals and Holy Wood he finally started delivering great music to go along with the image. Certainly the early stuff is much less commercial sounding than the middle period stuff.

Maybe that's why I love it. The interludes that were in those albums were funny. I don't know I've always been a quirky individual. Not everything has to be polished lol

"I'm not Prince or Rivers Cuomo, who brags about having hundreds of great songs," Reznor replied. "And to that I would say, 'Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you've put out, because your last several have sucked.' Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know." - Trent Reznor

dalsh327 said:

"I'm not Prince or Rivers Cuomo, who brags about having hundreds of great songs," Reznor replied. "And to that I would say, 'Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you've put out, because your last several have sucked.' Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know." - Trent Reznor

Trent always sounds like a professor with his disses lmao

Timmy84 said:

dalsh327 said:

"I'm not Prince or Rivers Cuomo, who brags about having hundreds of great songs," Reznor replied. "And to that I would say, 'Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you've put out, because your last several have sucked.' Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know." - Trent Reznor

Trent always sounds like a professor with his disses lmao

Well his using some pretty solid logic there! And I don't think its meant to be mean spirited in this case, either.

I am one of "those" NIN fans, but I would never argue with anyone who wished to talk shit about his lyrics. They've often left a bit to be desired. But musically, sonically and emotionally he creates great soundscapes. I for one and happy he's focused on instrumentals and soundtracks more in the last few years. I could listen to more of that stuff forever.

So, anyway, in regards to what he said, I'm pretty sure he was expressing his genuine frustration at the fact that these guys DO have those songs (lyrically), but they sit on them (for years, decades even).

Cerebus said:

Timmy84 said:

Trent always sounds like a professor with his disses lmao

Well his using some pretty solid logic there! And I don't think its meant to be mean spirited in this case, either.

I am one of "those" NIN fans, but I would never argue with anyone who wished to talk shit about his lyrics. They've often left a bit to be desired. But musically, sonically and emotionally he creates great soundscapes. I for one and happy he's focused on instrumentals and soundtracks more in the last few years. I could listen to more of that stuff forever.

So, anyway, in regards to what he said, I'm pretty sure he was expressing his genuine frustration at the fact that these guys DO have those songs (lyrically), but they sit on them (for years, decades even).

Yeah that's why I said what I said, it doesn't even sound like a diss.

[Edited 8/22/11 20:13pm]

SoulAlive said:

Layzie said:

13. Rick James on Prince
“A little short ego-ed fucker who I had a feeling didn’t like people of his own race and wanted to be white and taller.”

Wow. Can't say that he's wrong tho.

Rick talked alot of mess back then Some other comments he made about Prince:

You can't take his music seriously.He sings songs about oral sex and incest.Something else....he doesn't want to be black.It's my job to keep reality over this science fiction creep.And if he doesn't like what I'm saying about him,he can kiss my ass.

Which is hilarious coming from a guy who sang a song about wanting to bang a teenage girl.

Paris9748430 said:

SoulAlive said:

Rick talked alot of mess back then Some other comments he made about Prince:

You can't take his music seriously.He sings songs about oral sex and incest.Something else....he doesn't want to be black.It's my job to keep reality over this science fiction creep.And if he doesn't like what I'm saying about him,he can kiss my ass.

Which is hilarious coming from a guy who sang a song about wanting to bang a teenage girl.

Hasn't virtually every male singer sang a song about wanting to bang a teenage girl?

Isn't that why there is music in the first place?

Paris9748430 said:

SoulAlive said:

Rick talked alot of mess back then Some other comments he made about Prince:

You can't take his music seriously.He sings songs about oral sex and incest.Something else....he doesn't want to be black.It's my job to keep reality over this science fiction creep.And if he doesn't like what I'm saying about him,he can kiss my ass.

Which is hilarious coming from a guy who sang a song about wanting to bang a teenage girl.

14. Noel Gallagher on Jack White
“He looks like Zorro on doughnuts.”

Funny, bold and accurate as hell. No offensel Jacky Jack.