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Reply #30 posted 08/18/11 3:05pm

namepeace

As hard as it is, I gotta take Badu. Her last two albums are the deciding factors.

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Reply #31 posted 08/18/11 4:45pm

Onthe1jb

anyone seen the unblurred version of Badu's window seat...

I wana see that ass lol

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Reply #32 posted 08/18/11 5:08pm

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Onthe1jb said:

anyone seen the unblurred version of Badu's window seat...

I wana see that ass lol

they talked about it in my thread i think.

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Reply #33 posted 08/18/11 5:16pm

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Jill. Who else. hmm

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Reply #34 posted 08/18/11 5:34pm

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why it take me all this time to realize that lauryn hill was not part of the conversation. damn! I really am the only one who still likes this woman. sad aw poor lauryn.

Anyway,

I like Jill Scott's voice better than Erykah's voice but I like Erykah's lyrics better than Jill Scott. Jill's music teeters on some sort of self-ridicule or need for acknowledgement. I get a bad vibe from her songs sometimes; like she is yearning to be loved. Erykah could give a damn if you love her or not because she loves herself.

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Reply #35 posted 08/18/11 5:58pm

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Erykah. It's all about space, which I dig. Inner, outer, lateral.

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Reply #36 posted 08/19/11 3:49am

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HotGritz said:

why it take me all this time to realize that lauryn hill was not part of the conversation. damn! I really am the only one who still likes this woman. sad aw poor lauryn.

Anyway,

I like Jill Scott's voice better than Erykah's voice but I like Erykah's lyrics better than Jill Scott. Jill's music teeters on some sort of self-ridicule or need for acknowledgement. I get a bad vibe from her songs sometimes; like she is yearning to be loved. Erykah could give a damn if you love her or not because she loves herself.

Jill's lyrics do focus a lot on that theme, but I don't think that means she doesn't love herself...

If you listen to songs like "Womanifesto" she's saying, "I am all of that, so don't get it twisted"... and "I Need You" which says, "I am a lot of things, but there are some things that only a man can take care of."

I like Jill Scott because I think she's honest about loving, and I can relate to her lyrics. She sings about "Girl Power", but doesn't give the illusion that "I don't need a man". Some of us are doing fine but would still like to share our lives with someone. Self-sufficiency and relationships do not have to be exclusive.

I have to be honest: I can't speak about Erykah's lyrics after her 2nd album. I have the third, but I had tuned out by then. shrug

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punctuation, then a spelling, THEN a grammar edit... I should have hit "preview" first. lol

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Reply #37 posted 08/19/11 4:32am

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Love them both but on this one Jill comes in ahead for me.

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Reply #38 posted 08/19/11 4:40am

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This is hard. Jill, to me is the technically the stronger singer-she can BLOW. But Erykah is the better

lyricist. BUT, I will have to give this to Erykah, because she has a chill vibe and although I don't agree with her dropping crumbsnatchers like cats have kittens and her many baby daddies, she doesn't have the hateful, bitter vibe that Jill seems to have.

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Reply #39 posted 08/20/11 2:56pm

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HotGritz said:

why it take me all this time to realize that lauryn hill was not part of the conversation. damn! I really am the only one who still likes this woman. sad aw poor lauryn.

Anyway,

I like Jill Scott's voice better than Erykah's voice but I like Erykah's lyrics better than Jill Scott. Jill's music teeters on some sort of self-ridicule or need for acknowledgement. I get a bad vibe from her songs sometimes; like she is yearning to be loved. Erykah could give a damn if you love her or not because she loves herself.

Now this is true. One of Jill's songs... sorry I don't know the name related a story about how she was crazy in love with a man that has moved on and Jill had resorted to stalking him and breaking the windows of his car. And she is left wondering how did this man or actually her obsession of the man broke her down to that. She does come off as a little "need to be loved".

Eryka comes across as "hey, let's see if this thing called love works and if it doesn't let's have fun trying it out." No desperation in her songs... sometimes frustration, but never needy.

and that is something I aspire to. Jill has a finger on where I've BEEN... Eryka vocalizes where I WANT to be.

But I still tip off to Jill. I don't have as much in common with Eryka (that I have heard). I don't deal with men that deal, I don't ever even consider commiserating that even though I have a man, that I can't have that other one too.

So I guess I find myself judging Eryka's pov (not saying that she is singing about herself). Jill... we are right there... eye to eye. I can relate to her. I'm Jill on some songs, my sister is Jill, my sistas are Jill. I really don't know any Eryka's.

Jill is the girl next door, Eryka is that bat shit crazy girl down the street with mad attitude and style.

My opinion.

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Reply #40 posted 08/20/11 3:01pm

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scriptgirl said:

This is hard. Jill, to me is the technically the stronger singer-she can BLOW. But Erykah is the better

lyricist. BUT, I will have to give this to Erykah, because she has a chill vibe and although I don't agree with her dropping crumbsnatchers like cats have kittens and her many baby daddies, she doesn't have the hateful, bitter vibe that Jill seems to have.

At first I was going to ask you what bitter vibe... but then I got a flash of what you are talking about. I think Jill loves harder. I think Jill falls in love so hard there are times she loved THEM as a couple more than she loves herself. and when it doesn't work out... she is hurt and pissed... cause she gave ALL OF HERSELF... that is what that song was about... my love is higher, tighter, lighter... DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT???!!!!

I don't think Eryka has. She has never lost herself. I don't get that in her lyrics. Even when involved with someone else... she is checking out another man close enough to realize that she digs his vibe... and would like more... but dang too bad... I'm already with someone else.

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Reply #41 posted 08/20/11 5:28pm

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It's "Jill Scott Weekend" on the Centric channel, beginning at 9pm. biggrin


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Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #42 posted 08/21/11 10:25am

namepeace

I will say that Jill came with it with this new album. "So Gone," "Making You Wait," "Missing You," pack a punch.

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Reply #43 posted 08/21/11 12:56pm

Timmy84

Erykah has a free love, wild child vibe; Jill has a serene sister but will act bananas if you cheat on me so I'll stalk you and burn all your shit vibe.

I'll go with Erykah over Ms. Bernadine, er, Jill. lol

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Reply #44 posted 08/21/11 3:03pm

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Timmy84 said:

Erykah has a free love, wild child vibe; Jill has a serene sister but will act bananas if you cheat on me so I'll stalk you and burn all your shit vibe.

I'll go with Erykah over Ms. Bernadine, er, Jill. lol

WRONG answer - mad uzi johnwoo machinegun shoot shoot2 missile laser grenade

maybe that's why I love Jill so much. lol lol lol

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Reply #45 posted 08/21/11 3:05pm

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TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

Erykah has a free love, wild child vibe; Jill has a serene sister but will act bananas if you cheat on me so I'll stalk you and burn all your shit vibe.

I'll go with Erykah over Ms. Bernadine, er, Jill. lol


maybe that's why I love Jill so much. lol lol lol

nod lol


"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #46 posted 08/21/11 3:15pm

Timmy84

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

Erykah has a free love, wild child vibe; Jill has a serene sister but will act bananas if you cheat on me so I'll stalk you and burn all your shit vibe.

I'll go with Erykah over Ms. Bernadine, er, Jill. lol

WRONG answer - mad uzi johnwoo machinegun shoot shoot2 missile laser grenade

maybe that's why I love Jill so much. lol lol lol

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Reply #47 posted 08/24/11 6:08pm

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This is hard. Jill is good, but she's like yogurt, an acquired taste. Badu is a bit more interesting to me. I want to know what their both singing about, but just a bit more curious with Badu. I love to figure out what she's trying to tell me. Her voice is sweeter. Jill is certainly the stronger singer, but I think Badu has a slight edge over lyrics.

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Reply #48 posted 08/24/11 7:24pm

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Who is Bernadine? Erykah is a bit too earth mama for me. I like people who are not so alternative-but I do like her music

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Reply #49 posted 08/24/11 11:27pm

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scriptgirl said:

Who is Bernadine? Erykah is a bit too earth mama for me. I like people who are not so alternative-but I do like her music

Bernadine-Angela Basset's character in Waiting to Exhale that burned all her husband's shit.

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Reply #50 posted 08/25/11 12:33am

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Badu no contest for me, Who is jill scott is a great album but hte only album i enjoyed frrom Jill. Erykah has a few albums i really enjoy and i like her voice more.

I gotta admit, the kid's right on this. Jilly's debut is a monster (easilly in my top 3 debuts EVER)..but Badu has had better complete albums.

Also, after hearing Badu SHRED that cover of Chaka's "Stay" on her live album....holy shit.....had no idea that lil lady had that kind of range (check it out @ 3:51). Jill can't do that.

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Reply #51 posted 08/25/11 12:57am

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JamFanHot said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Badu no contest for me, Who is jill scott is a great album but hte only album i enjoyed frrom Jill. Erykah has a few albums i really enjoy and i like her voice more.

I gotta admit, the kid's right on this. Jilly's debut is a monster (easilly in my top 3 debuts EVER)..but Badu has had better complete albums.

Also, after hearing Badu SHRED that cover of Chaka's "Stay" on her live album....holy shit.....had no idea that lil lady had that kind of range (check it out @ 3:51). Jill can't do that.

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Reply #52 posted 08/25/11 6:56am

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^ Okau, now you have piqued my curiosity. I am going to have to take a closer look (listen) to Ms. Badu.
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Reply #53 posted 08/25/11 9:33am

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lyecry said:

scriptgirl said:

Who is Bernadine? Erykah is a bit too earth mama for me. I like people who are not so alternative-but I do like her music

Bernadine-Angela Basset's character in Waiting to Exhale that burned all her husband's shit.

He deserved that by the way.

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Reply #54 posted 08/25/11 9:41am

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^ Okau, now you have piqued my curiosity. I am going to have to take a closer look (listen) to Ms. Badu.

Yep, she ran like Carl Lewis through "Stay." I appreciate it more than Chaka's original. But that amazing LIVE album also has a version of "Apple Tree" that will knock your got damn socks off.

In Dave Chapelle's Block Party there is a scene with Jill backstage watching Erykah perform. It is windy and Erykah's wig is in a crisis moment and she just pulls it smack off her head. Jill is thrilled by this little move, has a little giggle and lets us how much she "loves that girl."

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Reply #55 posted 08/25/11 5:43pm

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allsmutaside said:

prodigalfan said:

^ Okau, now you have piqued my curiosity. I am going to have to take a closer look (listen) to Ms. Badu.

Yep, she ran like Carl Lewis through "Stay." I appreciate it more than Chaka's original. But that amazing LIVE album also has a version of "Apple Tree" that will knock your got damn socks off.

In Dave Chapelle's Block Party there is a scene with Jill backstage watching Erykah perform. It is windy and Erykah's wig is in a crisis moment and she just pulls it smack off her head. Jill is thrilled by this little move, has a little giggle and lets us how much she "loves that girl."

I did see that Block Party. I remember that scene. It is one of the reasons I love Jill so. She is so real and down to earth. None of this competition BS like the scene between Anita and Micki. Jill and Eryka are competitors yet none of this cattiness.

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