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Reply #30 posted 08/16/11 1:19pm

robertlove

LiLi1992 said:

I hope so. Lol! biggrin
I liked Gaga at the beginning of her career: a talented, creative artist. But when she turned into the
complete freak, quality of the music began to fall sharply. .... I'm sorry, dear, your career is already far behind the peak.

Of course you do, when everybody was praising her, you praised her too.

Now people start bash her, you bash her too....makes sense

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Reply #31 posted 08/16/11 1:32pm

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robertlove said:

Of course you do, when everybody was praising her, you praised her too. Now people start bash her, you bash her too....makes sense

I never praised her. NEVER! I've never been a fan of her, I just liked some of her songs 3 years ago. Lol! I will never bow to public opinion. Do not write nonsense about who did not meet in person.
I thought before, and I think now that she is talented. Gaga has ceased to interest me long before this era began. I believe that the level of her music is getting lower and lower

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Reply #32 posted 08/16/11 1:47pm

Timmy84

robertlove said:

LiLi1992 said:

I hope so. Lol! biggrin
I liked Gaga at the beginning of her career: a talented, creative artist. But when she turned into the
complete freak, quality of the music began to fall sharply. .... I'm sorry, dear, your career is already far behind the peak.

Of course you do, when everybody was praising her, you praised her too.

Now people start bash her, you bash her too....makes sense

It's like that saying: Follow the leader. "If he's doing it you might as well do it too." lol Which is silly.

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Reply #33 posted 08/16/11 1:47pm

robertlove

LiLi1992 said:

robertlove said:

Of course you do, when everybody was praising her, you praised her too. Now people start bash her, you bash her too....makes sense

I never praised her. NEVER! I've never been a fan of her, I just liked some of her songs 3 years ago. Lol! I will never bow to public opinion. Do not write nonsense about who did not meet in person.
I thought before, and I think now that she is talented. Gaga has ceased to interest me long before this era began. I believe that the level of her music is getting lower and lower

Sweetie, if we can't write stuff about people we did not meet on this forum, we might as well quit this whole forum....

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Reply #34 posted 08/16/11 1:48pm

robertlove

Timmy84 said:

robertlove said:

Of course you do, when everybody was praising her, you praised her too.

Now people start bash her, you bash her too....makes sense

It's like that saying: Follow the leader. "If he's doing it you might as well do it too." lol Which is silly.

exactely

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Reply #35 posted 08/16/11 2:14pm

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robertlove said:

LiLi1992 said:

I never praised her. NEVER! I've never been a fan of her, I just liked some of her songs 3 years ago. Lol! I will never bow to public opinion. Do not write nonsense about who did not meet in person.
I thought before, and I think now that she is talented. Gaga has ceased to interest me long before this era began. I believe that the level of her music is getting lower and lower

Sweetie, if we can't write stuff about people we did not meet on this forum, we might as well quit this whole forum....

For me there is nothing more insulting than absolutely identify with the crowd. I've never been a fan of Gaga and hardly will be, but if she really will create music that impressed me, I could be her last and only fan. But so far I see only regression in her work.

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Reply #36 posted 08/16/11 2:23pm

LightOfArt

That's just silly, she's still the hottest name in show biz! All she needs is a no:1 single so people will shut up

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Reply #37 posted 08/16/11 5:09pm

mancabdriver

Not a fan but I have to admit "the edge of glory" is epic. I could imagine it being played in stadiums for years to come.

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Reply #38 posted 08/16/11 6:12pm

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Hmm she seems to be over every week but I steadily see her on my Television Screen and Newspapers.

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Reply #39 posted 08/16/11 6:34pm

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Guess folks don't want this generation to have any pop superstar who isn't a disney-fied Barbie Doll cut out character... razz lol

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

https://youtu.be/CVwv9LZMah0
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Reply #40 posted 08/16/11 6:53pm

paniuroczy

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Guess folks don't want this generation to have any pop superstar who isn't a disney-fied Barbie Doll cut out character... razz lol


Has nothing to do with that. She was incredible, up until bad romance. After that it seems like it all got to her head and now she's trying way too hard. disbelief She could be amazing but at this point I see her as a big disappointment.
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Reply #41 posted 08/16/11 8:29pm

Timmy84

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Guess folks don't want this generation to have any pop superstar who isn't a disney-fied Barbie Doll cut out character... razz lol

People are never satisfied these days. lol

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Reply #42 posted 08/16/11 9:59pm

Spinlight

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paniuroczy said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Guess folks don't want this generation to have any pop superstar who isn't a disney-fied Barbie Doll cut out character... razz lol

Has nothing to do with that. She was incredible, up until bad romance. After that it seems like it all got to her head and now she's trying way too hard. disbelief She could be amazing but at this point I see her as a big disappointment.

Ohhhhh, so another one of those people who think an artist should follow what YOU think they should rather than you appreciate an artist for their journey. lol

She's 3 records in. "A big disappointment" doesn't even qualify. You didn't know her before she became famous so you have nothing to compare her to. Thus far, each record has been more successful than the last.

People are sooooooooooooooooo possessive and insecuuuuurrrrre.

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Reply #43 posted 08/16/11 10:16pm

alphastreet

reading this made me put her on after so many weeks, I'm rocking Hair

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Reply #44 posted 08/16/11 10:38pm

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alphastreet said:

reading this made me put her on after so many weeks, I'm rocking Hair

That's one of the few songs I didn't like so much. lol But who cares as long as you enjoy it. wink

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #45 posted 08/16/11 10:41pm

alphastreet

I nearly forgot about it, my favourites on the album are Black Jesus and Marry the Night. I don't care much for the singles.

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Reply #46 posted 08/16/11 11:09pm

paniuroczy

Spinlight said:

paniuroczy said:

purplethunder3121 said: Has nothing to do with that. She was incredible, up until bad romance. After that it seems like it all got to her head and now she's trying way too hard. disbelief She could be amazing but at this point I see her as a big disappointment.

Ohhhhh, so another one of those people who think an artist should follow what YOU think they should rather than you appreciate an artist for their journey. lol

She's 3 records in. "A big disappointment" doesn't even qualify. You didn't know her before she became famous so you have nothing to compare her to. Thus far, each record has been more successful than the last.

People are sooooooooooooooooo possessive and insecuuuuurrrrre.

Ohhhhh, so another one of those 'monsters' who get butthurt over a simple opinion instead of respecting that other people think differently than them.

rolleyes Gimme a break. "Appreciate an artist for their journey"? Are you serious? lol I like some artists and I don't like others. What do you want me to say? Gaga can do whatever she wants for all I care, but I don't like it. So I don't pay much attention to her, that's my solution. There are plenty of other artists that I "appreciate for their artistic journey." falloff

Good for her. Glad she's successful. She probably works very hard. I don't care to know her before she became famous, who gives a shit about that? I liked her before, don't like her now. Maybe you're the one who's insecure. Not everyone has to like your precious mother monster.

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Reply #47 posted 08/16/11 11:25pm

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paniuroczy said:

Spinlight said:

Ohhhhh, so another one of those people who think an artist should follow what YOU think they should rather than you appreciate an artist for their journey. lol

She's 3 records in. "A big disappointment" doesn't even qualify. You didn't know her before she became famous so you have nothing to compare her to. Thus far, each record has been more successful than the last.

People are sooooooooooooooooo possessive and insecuuuuurrrrre.

Ohhhhh, so another one of those 'monsters' who get butthurt over a simple opinion instead of respecting that other people think differently than them.

rolleyes Gimme a break. "Appreciate an artist for their journey"? Are you serious? lol I like some artists and I don't like others. What do you want me to say? Gaga can do whatever she wants for all I care, but I don't like it. So I don't pay much attention to her, that's my solution. There are plenty of other artists that I "appreciate for their artistic journey." falloff

Good for her. Glad she's successful. She probably works very hard. I don't care to know her before she became famous, who gives a shit about that? I liked her before, don't like her now. Maybe you're the one who's insecure. Not everyone has to like your precious mother monster.

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Reply #48 posted 08/16/11 11:45pm

paniuroczy

Spinlight said:

paniuroczy said:

Ohhhhh, so another one of those 'monsters' who get butthurt over a simple opinion instead of respecting that other people think differently than them.

rolleyes Gimme a break. "Appreciate an artist for their journey"? Are you serious? lol I like some artists and I don't like others. What do you want me to say? Gaga can do whatever she wants for all I care, but I don't like it. So I don't pay much attention to her, that's my solution. There are plenty of other artists that I "appreciate for their artistic journey." falloff

Good for her. Glad she's successful. She probably works very hard. I don't care to know her before she became famous, who gives a shit about that? I liked her before, don't like her now. Maybe you're the one who's insecure. Not everyone has to like your precious mother monster.

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Reply #49 posted 08/16/11 11:57pm

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paniuroczy said:

Spinlight said:

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Reply #50 posted 08/16/11 11:58pm

paniuroczy

Spinlight said:

paniuroczy said:

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Reply #51 posted 08/17/11 12:02am

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Bad Romance has been praised as some of her best work. And she is certainly not a "freak", not any more than anyone else on this planet is. She's a performer and that's the way she chooses to express her work, and just because you don't agree with her choices doesn't make her a freak.

With that said, I think she ended up alienating the casual fans more than before with this album. The Fame and The Fame Monster were pop albums, and they could easily appeal to fans of most music genres. This album, from what I've heard, has a lot more of a rock-influence. In addition, her look has changed to coincide with the album, so she said goodbye to the mega-blonde hair/bow made of hair/yellow hair.

I think that as the casual fans trickle away, she'll be left with the diehard fans that appreciate any direction she chooses to take musically. Right now, it's hard to tell who likes her and who likes her because everyone likes her. Though I doubt she'll "disappear" unless by choice.

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Reply #52 posted 08/17/11 12:14am

paniuroczy

just1lousydime said:

Bad Romance has been praised as some of her best work. And she is certainly not a "freak", not any more than anyone else on this planet is. She's a performer and that's the way she chooses to express her work, and just because you don't agree with her choices doesn't make her a freak.

With that said, I think she ended up alienating the casual fans more than before with this album. The Fame and The Fame Monster were pop albums, and they could easily appeal to fans of most music genres. This album, from what I've heard, has a lot more of a rock-influence. In addition, her look has changed to coincide with the album, so she said goodbye to the mega-blonde hair/bow made of hair/yellow hair.

I think that as the casual fans trickle away, she'll be left with the diehard fans that appreciate any direction she chooses to take musically. Right now, it's hard to tell who likes her and who likes her because everyone likes her. Though I doubt she'll "disappear" unless by choice.

I agree. I mean, I don't like her but to call her a freak is just ignorant. I think that she's trying too hard lately, but I admire the careful planning she takes. She said that each outfit represents something; I mean, I think that's creative and thoughtful.

I just feel like the way she does all this is not natural, like she's forcing herself, and I think that her ideas are great but the way she is going about them is hard to follow and in my honest opinion, hard to appreciate because of it (personally).

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Reply #53 posted 08/17/11 12:23am

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just1lousydime said:

Bad Romance has been praised as some of her best work. And she is certainly not a "freak", not any more than anyone else on this planet is. She's a performer and that's the way she chooses to express her work, and just because you don't agree with her choices doesn't make her a freak.

With that said, I think she ended up alienating the casual fans more than before with this album. The Fame and The Fame Monster were pop albums, and they could easily appeal to fans of most music genres. This album, from what I've heard, has a lot more of a rock-influence. In addition, her look has changed to coincide with the album, so she said goodbye to the mega-blonde hair/bow made of hair/yellow hair.

I think that as the casual fans trickle away, she'll be left with the diehard fans that appreciate any direction she chooses to take musically. Right now, it's hard to tell who likes her and who likes her because everyone likes her. Though I doubt she'll "disappear" unless by choice.

Well said, fair points, would read again, A++++.

Born This Way is an adventurous album. That's the best way I can put it. I get why it has put some people off, but I think we all had to have known it was going in this direction because she damn near screamed it from the top of her lungs. The whole Born This Way attitude and shtick began long before it was released and it does perplex me as to why people see such a huge difference. To me, I feel like its evermore cohesive. Hell, you could look at the 3 albums as a trilogy with BTW being the pre-quel to The Fame and The Fame Monster being the ultimate pop downfall. I enjoy that you could even think of her records in this manner.

Pop stars simply don't put any meaning into their work anymore, be it forced or natural, at all. It's refreshing and encouraging to see someone whose still "got it".

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Reply #54 posted 08/17/11 12:27am

alphastreet

Though I like her casually, I can't say I'm disappoined in her even if I don't like every single track. I'm so impressed with how much she has sold in such a short time too. At least she has the talent to back it up. But if people are calling her weird or a freak cause of her image, I think it's immature cause it's just all an act and makeup, and she's not the first artist to act like that and will not be the last.

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Reply #55 posted 08/17/11 9:46am

imago

....debuted at number 1

.....Judas peaked at number 10, (this was her worst performing single lol )

....many of her songs charted on the Hot 100

...jumped into the Top 10

.... and her single Edge of Glory, while still a huge hit,

These are the author's own words. lol

Lady Gaga is far, far, faaaaar from over.

She has in a very short period of time built up a very commanding (and loyal) fanbase. She has become a Madonna, a Morrissey, a Greatful Dead, in the sense that she has built a cult of personality with a very devoted following of "Monsters".

And unlike so many of her peers, this girl can truly sing, perform, ...just do it all.

Will she top album sales of her previous albums (to include Born This Way)?

Probably not. Will she need to? No. She's here to stay.

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Reply #56 posted 08/17/11 9:51am

V10LETBLUES

Over at 25? If she was at least in her 30's an argument could be made.

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Reply #57 posted 08/17/11 10:53am

Timmy84

just1lousydime said:

Bad Romance has been praised as some of her best work. And she is certainly not a "freak", not any more than anyone else on this planet is. She's a performer and that's the way she chooses to express her work, and just because you don't agree with her choices doesn't make her a freak.

With that said, I think she ended up alienating the casual fans more than before with this album. The Fame and The Fame Monster were pop albums, and they could easily appeal to fans of most music genres. This album, from what I've heard, has a lot more of a rock-influence. In addition, her look has changed to coincide with the album, so she said goodbye to the mega-blonde hair/bow made of hair/yellow hair.

I think that as the casual fans trickle away, she'll be left with the diehard fans that appreciate any direction she chooses to take musically. Right now, it's hard to tell who likes her and who likes her because everyone likes her. Though I doubt she'll "disappear" unless by choice.

Pretty much. Plus ain't that what most artists do? Sometimes people evolve and some fans who are not as hardcore leave? I mean we're on a site dedicated to a man who evolved so much that folks just started not feeling it and leaving and he's still around 33 years later.

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Reply #58 posted 08/17/11 11:08am

dalsh327

She seemed to want to get touring out of the way before the summer, and the latest round of promotions were focused on the adult fanbase. She also has some duets that are planned to be released before the end of the year, one with Cher, and one with Tony Bennett. If Cher gets a #1, that would mean she's had a #1 hit single every decade. And it's inevitable that she'll sing with Madonna, and prob. write songs with her or for her.

I do think in coming years we're going to see Lady Gaga writing and producing other artists when she's on "break".

I think they're planning on her hosting SNL this season. I also won't be surprised if she does "Storytellers".

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Reply #59 posted 08/17/11 11:15am

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lol You know when you watch her video for "Paparazzi" when you see all newspaper clippings at the beginning, one of them says exactly what this title says..."Gaga is Over". Too bad her reign hasn't let up yet

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