Who's Bad, baby?

Although Control is the first runner up.

Timmy84 said:

I swear the Jackson fans always have to make mountains out of molehills just so people can start throwing punches.

Anyway, I ain't choosing neither. They're both classic. Fuck off.

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Get yer ass off that fence and pick a side!

rialb said:

Timmy84 said:

I swear the Jackson fans always have to make mountains out of molehills just so people can start throwing punches.

Anyway, I ain't choosing neither. They're both classic. Fuck off.

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Get yer ass off that fence and pick a side!

I'm surprised that so many prefer Control.

mjscarousal said:

SEANMAN said:

Sorry, but

is not better than

That isnt a good comparision.

The correct comparision would be All 4 U vs. Invincible and I think you probably didnt do that because Invincible of course is the better album

How could you possible compare one of Janets best work with Michaels weakest?

I'll take Break of Dawn, Butterflies, Whatever Happens off Invincible over some tracks on Velvet Rope

Love Janet but she doesnt touch Michaels OVERALL music catalogue. Ive notice Janets 4 other albums(All 4 U, Discipline, Damita Jo, 20.Y.O and her two early albums) NEVER get brought up here for debating.. I wonder why

Janets catalogue which only consist of 4 solid good albums doesnt touch Michaels overall music catalogue... BUT if that is your preference then okay

... With this debate obviously people like Janets Control album more than BAD so what you tripping for?

The reason I compared those two is because the poster said everything MJ has put out is better than anything Janet has put out. It's really just all subjective.

SEANMAN said:

mjscarousal said:

That isnt a good comparision.

The correct comparision would be All 4 U vs. Invincible and I think you probably didnt do that because Invincible of course is the better album

How could you possible compare one of Janets best work with Michaels weakest?

I'll take Break of Dawn, Butterflies, Whatever Happens off Invincible over some tracks on Velvet Rope

Love Janet but she doesnt touch Michaels OVERALL music catalogue. Ive notice Janets 4 other albums(All 4 U, Discipline, Damita Jo, 20.Y.O and her two early albums) NEVER get brought up here for debating.. I wonder why

Janets catalogue which only consist of 4 solid good albums doesnt touch Michaels overall music catalogue... BUT if that is your preference then okay

... With this debate obviously people like Janets Control album more than BAD so what you tripping for?

The reason I compared those two is because the poster said everything MJ has put out is better than anything Janet has put out. It's really just all subjective.

Hmm, I find it hard to believe that anyone would claim that Michael's Motown era solo albums are better than Janet's run from Control-The Velvet Rope. It is probably not a fair comparison but those are albums with Michael's name on them.

Control is an incredible album.

but "Bad" might well be my favorite album of all time. To me it's flawless and I adore everything about it.

Militant said:

Control is an incredible album.

but "Bad" might well be my favorite album of all time. To me it's flawless and I adore everything about it.

^ THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS!!!!!!!!!!

I'm marrying the Bad album

alphastreet said:

I'm marrying the Bad album

I'm marrying the BAD ERA!

paisleypark4 said:

alphastreet said:

It was apparently completed in 1988 even though Quincy gives that story on the Special Edition. Found this out recently in the MJ thread. And Bad is perfect as it is.

How can it be completed in 1988?? What do you mean?

I think she was referring to the song "Streetwalker". My favorite MJ song

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

alphastreet said:

I'm marrying the Bad album

I'm marrying the BAD ERA!

I'm marrying the Smooth Criminal video!

I was listening to this album yesterday and I'm rediscovering how awesome it is. I listened to Control and Bad back to back....I think Bad still has it for me.

SEANMAN said:

mjscarousal said:

That isnt a good comparision.

The correct comparision would be All 4 U vs. Invincible and I think you probably didnt do that because Invincible of course is the better album

How could you possible compare one of Janets best work with Michaels weakest?

I'll take Break of Dawn, Butterflies, Whatever Happens off Invincible over some tracks on Velvet Rope

Love Janet but she doesnt touch Michaels OVERALL music catalogue. Ive notice Janets 4 other albums(All 4 U, Discipline, Damita Jo, 20.Y.O and her two early albums) NEVER get brought up here for debating.. I wonder why

Janets catalogue which only consist of 4 solid good albums doesnt touch Michaels overall music catalogue... BUT if that is your preference then okay

... With this debate obviously people like Janets Control album more than BAD so what you tripping for?

The reason I compared those two is because the poster said everything MJ has put out is better than anything Janet has put out. It's really just all subjective.

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mjscarousal said:

SEANMAN said:

The reason I compared those two is because the poster said everything MJ has put out is better than anything Janet has put out. It's really just all subjective.

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Wow, that's very hypnotic.

mjscarousal said:

SEANMAN said:

The reason I compared those two is because the poster said everything MJ has put out is better than anything Janet has put out. It's really just all subjective.

[img:$uid]http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac231/mjscarousal/BillieJean-29.gif[/img:$uid]

lmao.

smoothcriminal12 said:

I'm surprised that so many prefer Control.

I find "Bad" to be disingenuous, and diminished by trying to live up to "Thriller's" brilliance. There were some great moments on it. "Off The Wall" is Genius to me, start to finish - ain't no question.

"Control" is rich and fine and reflects an interior life that is compelling and universal. "Control" and "RN1814" represent the best intentions for music and what it offers up in reflection of the human experience. Perhaps a different MJ album could be compared to "Control" to better results.

I am actually a little freaked out that "Bad" is held in such high regard. I will revisit it this weekend.

Militant said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

I'm marrying the BAD ERA!

I'm marrying the Smooth Criminal video!

I'm marrying both of you. Cuz in the divorce I will be happily intent on incorporating your CD collections into mine.

allsmutaside said:

Militant said:

I'm marrying the Smooth Criminal video!

I'm marrying both of you. Cuz in the divorce I will be happily intent on incorporating your CD collections into mine.

Baby, give counselling a chance!

mjscarousal said:

SEANMAN said:

The reason I compared those two is because the poster said everything MJ has put out is better than anything Janet has put out. It's really just all subjective.

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x1,000

no contest........

!!!

My bad! Very sorry. I had forgotten about some of the great songs from this album, The Way You Make Me Feel, I Just Can't Stop Loving You, Smooth Criminal, Man In the Mirror... There is something really Grand in all of these.

"Bad", by a long shot. Michael wrote the LYRICS and MELODY to basically every song on that album, as well as arranging, producing,etc:

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel

Dirty Diana

Liberian Girl

Speed Demon

I Just Can't Stop Lovin' You

Smooth Criminal

Another Part of Me

Leave Me Alone

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis wrote EVERY note and LYRIC on Control. Janet contributed her life story to them and it was THEM who took control and wrote the album. Of course, Janet added her touch with the iconic videos and performances.

For me, there is no contest, BAD wins hands down!

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allsmutaside said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I'm surprised that so many prefer Control.

I find "Bad" to be disingenuous, and diminished by trying to live up to "Thriller's" brilliance. There were some great moments on it. "Off The Wall" is Genius to me, start to finish - ain't no question.

"Control" is rich and fine and reflects an interior life that is compelling and universal. "Control" and "RN1814" represent the best intentions for music and what it offers up in reflection of the human experience. Perhaps a different MJ album could be compared to "Control" to better results.

I am actually a little freaked out that "Bad" is held in such high regard. I will revisit it this weekend.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I Just Can't Stop Lovin U & Man In The Mirror are so fuckin corny to me.

Free2BMe said:

"Bad", by a long shot. Michael wrote the LYRICS and MELODY to basically every song on that album, as well as arranging, producing,etc:

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel

Dirty Diana

Liberian Girl

Speed Demon

I Just Can't Stop Lovin' You

Smooth Criminal

Another Part of Me

Leave Me Alone

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis wrote EVERY note and LYRIC on Control. Janet contributed her life story to them and it was THEM who took control and wrote the album. Of course, Janet added her touch with the iconic videos and performances.

For me, there is no contest, BAD wins hands down!

[Edited 8/12/11 22:56pm]

Why is that a criteria? A good song is a good song, dont matter who wrote or produced it.

So you also think even the wackest album by Prince is better than MJ's best?

WildStyle said:

MattyJam said:

Janet seems a lot more popular on the org than MJ. Her albums always seem to get more votes than her brothers on these MJ vs. JJ threads.

Fuck knows why, all of Michael's studio albums are superior to anything Janet's put out.

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Word.

i dont know, I only like Control and RN as albums and sound, but i dont really like her voice. I cant imagine people thinking or sayin JJ is a better artist.

SpookyElektrix said:

WildStyle said:

Word.

i dont know, I only like Control and RN as albums and sound, but i dont really like her voice. I cant imagine people thinking or sayin JJ is a better artist.

It's a freakin opinion dude, chill out!!!

Free2BMe said:

"Bad", by a long shot. Michael wrote the LYRICS and MELODY to basically every song on that album, as well as arranging, producing,etc:

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel

Dirty Diana

Liberian Girl

Speed Demon

I Just Can't Stop Lovin' You

Smooth Criminal

Another Part of Me

Leave Me Alone

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis wrote EVERY note and LYRIC on Control. Janet contributed her life story to them and it was THEM who took control and wrote the album. Of course, Janet added her touch with the iconic videos and performances.

For me, there is no contest, BAD wins hands down!

[Edited 8/12/11 22:56pm]

Lie

Control- captured Janet's time in a bottle for me! Havent been all that interested in her work since.Rhythm had some good stuff.But when i think of janet(no pun intended)I Think of Control.

Bad is okay.I love Speed Demon. but Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis production on Control is tha shiznit.Minny sound.Urban.funk.wit pop.

ThePopLover2 said:

Free2BMe said:

"Bad", by a long shot. Michael wrote the LYRICS and MELODY to basically every song on that album, as well as arranging, producing,etc:

Bad

The Way You Make Me Feel

Dirty Diana

Liberian Girl

Speed Demon

I Just Can't Stop Lovin' You

Smooth Criminal

Another Part of Me

Leave Me Alone

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis wrote EVERY note and LYRIC on Control. Janet contributed her life story to them and it was THEM who took control and wrote the album. Of course, Janet added her touch with the iconic videos and performances.

For me, there is no contest, BAD wins hands down!

[Edited 8/12/11 22:56pm]

Lie

Are you saying that Janet wrote the lyrics and melodies to songs on Control? Maybe I missed something, please elaborate.