purplethunder3121 said:

On a serious note, the man does exhibit signs of bipolar disorder. I've known people that had it and if left untreated it can have disasterous consequences.

Anyone left that unstable, it can definitely get worse.

The sad trurh is that it seems like some people with that much money, fame, and power won't get the help they need because ass-kissing sycophants will just tell them what they want to hear and not to seek treatment.

purplethunder3121 said:

The sad trurh is that it seems like some people with that much money, fame, and power won't get the help they need because ass-kissing sycophants will just tell them what they want to hear and not to seek treatment.

Therein lies the real problem.

Timmy84 said:

I don't know if anyone ever COMPARED Kanye to that monster, I can see what you mean as him being compared to being "evil". In one breath he says he don't mind being a villain in his raps but then he tries to plead for "understanding" in other public events. Maybe he just has two sides and he has a problem merging the two.

[Edited 8/9/11 9:24am]

I never said that people compare Kanye to Hitler; Kanye compared

himself to Hitler in that he thought people were treating him as if he

personified evil itself.

The uproar over his comment is due to the notion that Hitler was so evil,

that using his name as a metonym for something evil, but not as outrageously

evil as what Hitler did, is a taboo. My point is that this is a result of the

flexible nature of language. Which means, language is about expression,

communication via putting words to concepts concrete and/or subjective.

We all know what he meant; it is bad taste perhaps, but that too is just

an opinion.

And I'm no psychologist and cannot act like I know all that is going

on in Kanye's life: but I wonder if he was not famous, his sense of

arrogance and self-centeredness would not be as "loud" as it is now.

My point?

Fame makes some people act like a fool.

Timmy84 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

The sad trurh is that it seems like some people with that much money, fame, and power won't get the help they need because ass-kissing sycophants will just tell them what they want to hear and not to seek treatment.

Therein lies the real problem.

Word; I think you're on to something. It may be a simplification

but yeah, I think you guys are on to something.

Prime exteme example--Howard Hughes. I rest my case.

Kanye always saying crazy stuff.

duccichucka said:

People need to relax. We all know what he meant by the

metaphor; "Hitler" is a metonym for an outrageous type of "evil".

We act as if there are some words/concepts/events that are so sacrosanct that

using them as a figure of speech to describe is sacrilege. By that I mean,

was Hitler was so egregiously evil, that his name should not be

ever mentioned metaphorically to something not as evil?

No. We already use words/concepts/events that were originally attached

to some sort of universal event that was outstandingly evil.

For example:

Jesus was betrayed by Judas Iscariot.

Jesus is considered by millions to be sacrosanct

But, we now use the concept/name "Judas" to describe

a turncoat, thus the original word/concept has become

a metonym, mostly erasing the "holiness" attached to Christ and Judas.

We all know what he meant by using Hitler and to be

honest, it is appropriate; that is the philosophy and workings

of language.

The Ashkanezi Jews that run the media have socially conditioned the general public to over-react whenever the word Hitler or Holocaust is mentioned. Its the politically correct thing to do.

The Swastika, one of the oldest symbols in written history, has been demonized to equate to a symbol of Hitler's reign.

We actually agree on something! Any halfway intelligent person who doesn't have comprehension problems knows what Kanye meant. People just want to take shots at dude, so they pretend not to get it, so they can be go in on him. They are still mad at him for interrupting a white chick at an awards show.

purplethunder3121 said:

The sad trurh is that it seems like some people with that much money, fame, and power won't get the help they need because ass-kissing sycophants will just tell them what they want to hear and not to seek treatment.

Kanye definitely has some form of mental illness and he hasn’t been the same since his mother past as well. I thought overrall Kanye was just a little odd but it seems to be more going on there.

Dude might have a persecution complex. When he behaves like an ass, the public reacts negatively towards him as one would expect it to. He immediatly goes into victim mode in order to absolve himself of any blame.

Identity said:

Dude might have a persecution complex. When he behaves like an ass, the public reacts negatively towards him as one would expect it to. He immediatly goes into victim mode in order to absolve himself of any blame.

OR.....maybe the public overreacts to his behavior? His interruption of Taylor Swift was treated like he came onstage and shot a child on national television. People kept talking and talking about it like it was some significant thing in their lives; like it affected them personally. "How dare you, slave descendant!" "Interrupt a nice white girl on t.v.!" Come on. People made much more of a big deal of it than they should have because every time you turn around, someone in the media was drawing attention to it. People would have forgotten about it the next week if so much media time wasn't devoted to it. I don't doubt that he has some issues. At the same time, I'm the type of person who, if some reporter asked the President "what is your cock size?", would ask why did he/she ask that and who told him/her to ask that question rather than just wonder why he didn't answer. The media would have a field day "President is hiding penis size like a birth certificate" and people would follow where the media tells them to go instead of asking "what's the real purpose behind this?"

I was proud of Kanye for his "George Bush doesn't like black people" statement and no matter how many times he apologizes, I will always be because at the time, he meant it no matter what he says now. Dude made the President answer to him and that was a big move. He rants and rambles about all kinds of shit but that doesn't mean he's wrong about everything.

There is a saying: "Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean that no one is after me."

I wish he'd shut his fuckin' ass up.

YO KANYE!!! IT AINT ALWAYS ABOUT YOU BRUH!

...as a matter of fact, this whole incident exemplifies exactly what I was saying. This is something that he said at one concert during his set and the media has told the public to have a problem with it. Why? It was at one show that most likely none of us were at. Why should we care? Because someone with a camera and an associated press pass told us to?

[Edited 8/9/11 11:38am]

Attention whore

HotGritz said:

Attention whore

BlaqueKnight said:

His mother's passing has nothing to do with what he goes through with the media, like when he had to set Matt Lauer straight about trying to "play tv" with him. It doesn't make any of what he said wrong, even if he apologizes for it. The media DOES play the sensationalism card every chance they get. People just look where the cameras go and listen to what the reporters say and they NEVER look at who's behind what direction the camera is pointed in and who told the reporters to say what they say.

And to think people wonder why I'm not a fan of Nancy (Dis)Grace!

These days, corporate media is using reality TV-like ideas/tactics on everything: news, sport, music, whatever.

I believe what Kanye needs right now is a nice steaming, hot cup of shutdafuccup .

BlaqueKnight said:

duccichucka said:

People need to relax. We all know what he meant by the

metaphor; "Hitler" is a metonym for an outrageous type of "evil".

We act as if there are some words/concepts/events that are so sacrosanct that

using them as a figure of speech to describe is sacrilege. By that I mean,

was Hitler was so egregiously evil, that his name should not be

ever mentioned metaphorically to something not as evil?

No. We already use words/concepts/events that were originally attached

to some sort of universal event that was outstandingly evil.

For example:

Jesus was betrayed by Judas Iscariot.

Jesus is considered by millions to be sacrosanct

But, we now use the concept/name "Judas" to describe

a turncoat, thus the original word/concept has become

a metonym, mostly erasing the "holiness" attached to Christ and Judas.

We all know what he meant by using Hitler and to be

honest, it is appropriate; that is the philosophy and workings

of language.

The Ashkanezi Jews that run the media have socially conditioned the general public to over-react whenever the word Hitler or Holocaust is mentioned. Its the politically correct thing to do.

The Swastika, one of the oldest symbols in written history, has been demonized to equate to a symbol of Hitler's reign.

We actually agree on something! Any halfway intelligent person who doesn't have comprehension problems knows what Kanye meant. People just want to take shots at dude, so they pretend not to get it, so they can be go in on him. They are still mad at him for interrupting a white chick at an awards show.

The viewers should have been more piss in witnessing the entire Illuminati's coming out party (aka The 2009 MTV VMA), neither mind what Kanye did to Taylor!

BlaqueKnight said:

duccichucka said:

People need to relax. We all know what he meant by the

metaphor; "Hitler" is a metonym for an outrageous type of "evil".

We act as if there are some words/concepts/events that are so sacrosanct that

using them as a figure of speech to describe is sacrilege. By that I mean,

was Hitler was so egregiously evil, that his name should not be

ever mentioned metaphorically to something not as evil?

No. We already use words/concepts/events that were originally attached

to some sort of universal event that was outstandingly evil.

For example:

Jesus was betrayed by Judas Iscariot.

Jesus is considered by millions to be sacrosanct

But, we now use the concept/name "Judas" to describe

a turncoat, thus the original word/concept has become

a metonym, mostly erasing the "holiness" attached to Christ and Judas.

We all know what he meant by using Hitler and to be

honest, it is appropriate; that is the philosophy and workings

of language.

The Ashkanezi Jews that run the media have socially conditioned the general public to over-react whenever the word Hitler or Holocaust is mentioned. Its the politically correct thing to do.

The Swastika, one of the oldest symbols in written history, has been demonized to equate to a symbol of Hitler's reign.

We actually agree on something! Any halfway intelligent person who doesn't have comprehension problems knows what Kanye meant. People just want to take shots at dude, so they pretend not to get it, so they can be go in on him. They are still mad at him for interrupting a white chick at an awards show.

Aside from the conspiracy shit, you're still wrong.

Just because someone can say something doesn't mean they should, first of all. It seems to me that Kanye (and you, apparently) is upset because people treated him badly. Him, a sloppy, smug, arrogant douchebag with mediocre music who is most famous for stereotypical coonery at an awards show. I don't think he has any fucking concept what it feels like to be treated as if he were Hitler. And if he did know? Then obviously he deserved it because regardless of your sway when it comes to rich jews, Hitler really did kill people and there are real families missing members due to a bloodthirsty dictator.

Furthermore, he does his mother's memory shame by continuing to act as if she was a clueless parent. I love how some of you swear up and down people should be using their "ACK RIGHT" yet assholes like Kanye get by because he makes race-related comments and plays the poor Woe Is Me I'm Black And Rich card.

afro75 said:

I believe what Kanye needs right now is a nice steaming, hot cup of shutdafuccup .

OR, why can't we just ignore stuff that doesn't affect us? Kanye is always talking. If everybody turned the television

purplethunder3121 said:

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Believe it!

kanye's hook seems to be making off the wall statements to boost his center of attention mindset.

i hope he's not suffering from meglomania. imo he takes his self too seriously.

TonyVanDam said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Believe it!

But I don't!

Spinlight said:

Aside from the conspiracy shit, you're still wrong.

Just because someone can say something doesn't mean they should, first of all. It seems to me that Kanye (and you, apparently) is upset because people treated him badly. Him, a sloppy, smug, arrogant douchebag with mediocre music who is most famous for stereotypical coonery at an awards show. I don't think he has any fucking concept what it feels like to be treated as if he were Hitler. And if he did know? Then obviously he deserved it because regardless of your sway when it comes to rich jews, Hitler really did kill people and there are real families missing members due to a bloodthirsty dictator.

Furthermore, he does his mother's memory shame by continuing to act as if she was a clueless parent. I love how some of you swear up and down people should be using their "ACK RIGHT" yet assholes like Kanye get by because he makes race-related comments and plays the poor Woe Is Me I'm Black And Rich card.

How is the truth a consipracy?

Here, let me lay out some facts for your uninformed ass and you feel free to counter them:

CBS Corporation:

Sumner M. Redstone(Ashkenazi Jew) – Executive Chairman

Leslie Moonves(Ashkenazi Jew) – President and Chief Executive Officer

NBC Universal:

Brian L. Roberts(Ashkenazi Jew) – Chairman

[Edited 8/9/11 13:06pm]

purplethunder3121 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Believe it!

But I don't!

The truth is out there. But you have to want it in order to understand it.

http://www.bibliotecapley...iopolitica

TonyVanDam said:

purplethunder3121 said:

But I don't!

The truth is out there. But you have to want it in order to understand it.

http://www.bibliotecapley...iopolitica

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on our understanding of "the truth."

purplethunder3121 said:

TonyVanDam said:

The truth is out there. But you have to want it in order to understand it.

http://www.bibliotecapley...iopolitica

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on our understanding of "the truth."

Fair enough. Be at peace my brother (or sister).

TonyVanDam said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on our understanding of "the truth."

Fair enough. Be at peace my brother (or sister).

to you also.