Flaming is a disease in this place.

unique said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I'm sorry, but you do have an obvious bias. You simply cannot claim to be as objective as you think you are because you really aren't.

what the fuck do you know, and who gives a shit what you think? based on the shit you've posted so far that i've read, your opinion isn't worth airing

You just posted pages blasting Michael Jackson for no good reason and you say that my opinion isn't worth airing? Come on man, at least try to objective. You can at lest respect him with blasting him and his fans and everyone else who doesn't agree with you.

Timmy84 said:

Flaming is a disease in this place.

Yeah I know, it's human though.

Org takes music a little too seriously.

HermesReborn said:

All I know is that I sucessfully mediated the argument between you two.

and you both agree with me.

So technically you two are on the same page.

I think the animosity is personal

So if you guys wanna go on flaming each other, take it to the orgnote.

But if anymore flaming happens,

It's time to let the mods in.

lets get back to intellectual debate.

[Edited 8/6/11 14:12pm]

There is no animosity. Not at all.

And flaming? Nah...

unique said:

dm3857 said:

to say that about this is it is not fair, those are rehearsals..if you look at the dangerous world tour rehearsals, and the rehearsals from this is it..michael is FAR more energetic..and no, thriller was indeed live on the bad tour..im in no way trying to say that freddy or prince aren't good, because of coarse they are!! but michael was a great LIVE performer,

if you don't wanna watch this whole clip watch from 3:15-

he is IMO the GREATEST live performer..of coarse thats biased.. but.. mike still had at 50.

Mj as an adult was a shite live performer. fucking absolute fucking shite

anyone who says different doesn't have a fucking clue. go listen to more music if that's what you think

all he fucking did was dance to choreography and mime to his records, and when he did sing live, more often than not it sounded shite compared to the records. that's why you don't have any MJ live albums and why there is a lack of official live dvds. the cunt died years ago and the record company want to rape every last fucking cent out of him but the best they can come up with is that album that was shat into creation last year and more fucking rereleases?

why not some live lbums or dvds? well a live album would be pointless as he mimed so much and sounded shit when he didn't mime, as he spent more time dancing than trying to sing well, and the live videos that are circulating show a far from enthusiastic side of him. you might be able to cut and paste a few minutes here and there from various gigs, but how many full shows out of all that are circulating on video could you honestly say show the best side of him?

he fucked up big style by not touring off the wall or thriller and doing the jacksons tour instead

like i said before..the only tour he mimed was the HIStory..bad tour was COMPLETELY live..dangerous was live except for 4 songs..michael also dances his but off while singing live..why no live prince albums? if you go look at the videos posted above you will see michael was indeed NOT "shite" ... and if you would like to know FULL shows where you can see enthusiastic side of him, i would start with:bad tour yokohoma,bad tour brisbane,dangerous tour mexico,dangerous tour bucharest.. i may even buy these for you! just so you can see as a matter of fact... here you go:

thats the FULL bad tour in yokohoma

FULL dangerous tour live in Bucharest

i cant find the jackson 5 medley for this show on youtube for some reason, but it was live

motown 25.

these are just SOME of the shows that were professionally shot,and released, if you want more..just ask..

^ see what i mean about the youtubes. for fuck sake

prince live albums, one night alone live triple cd set with aftershow cd, and 21 nights in london book with live cd, plus live tracks on purple rain, sign o the times, crystal ball, plus live videos like syracuse, lovesexy, sign o the times, beautiful strange, rave un2, ONA live

btw, i have all the pro shot MJ videos and soundboards in circulation so i know what the fuck i'm talking about without having to watch shitty youtubes, and you'll notice i have no need to post youtubes to prove any points i'm making as they are perfectly clear

MJ mimed during his live shows thus no fucking way can you consider him the best vocalist. end of discussion. if you want to think otherwise go ahead, but you are on your own with the rest of the MJ loonatics

just noticed someone posted parts of the MJ 30th anniversary show. if that's not evidence he was shite live, then what is. it's as cringeworthy as an episode of curb your enthusiasm

smoothcriminal12 said:

unique said:

what the fuck do you know, and who gives a shit what you think? based on the shit you've posted so far that i've read, your opinion isn't worth airing

You just posted pages blasting Michael Jackson for no good reason and you say that my opinion isn't worth airing? Come on man, at least try to objective. You can at lest respect him with blasting him and his fans and everyone else who doesn't agree with you.

i posted them with plenty good reason and if you bothered reading instead of posting shit that no-one cares about, you would see that

you know this WAS a thread about freddy mercury? what the fuck have you posted about FM of value? fuck all

unique said:

^ see what i mean about the youtubes. for fuck sake

prince live albums, one night alone live triple cd set with aftershow cd, and 21 nights in london book with live cd, plus live tracks on purple rain, sign o the times, crystal ball, plus live videos like syracuse, lovesexy, sign o the times, beautiful strange, rave un2, ONA live

btw, i have all the pro shot MJ videos and soundboards in circulation so i know what the fuck i'm talking about without having to watch shitty youtubes, and you'll notice i have no need to post youtubes to prove any points i'm making as they are perfectly clear

MJ mimed during his live shows thus no fucking way can you consider him the best vocalist. end of discussion. if you want to think otherwise go ahead, but you are on your own with the rest of the MJ lunatics

as well as i do!! michael did NOT mimic his songs in the bad tour.. NOT ONE! michael performed all the songs live on the dangerous tour except(jam,smooth criminal,thriller,will u be there,man in the mirror) thats 5 out of 15 songs.. the HIStory tour was mainly playback, but in michaels defense he was going through a bad stage of laryngitis.. and i didn't know you had mj live dvds, there for i was trying to show you that he sang live for his shows for the most part.. i said in the beginning that he was the best vocalist IN MY OPINION, and that i was in NO WAY trying to change your opinion, but when you said he lip synched his tours..i had to say something because besides the HIStory tour, thats just not true.

TylerHippie said:

Why all the Michael videos?

cuz they can't be fucking annoying enough by posting shit, they have to try and fill the whole fucking screen with videos and pictures. it ALWAYS happens if you mention the one gloved kiddie fiddler

TylerHippie said:

Why all the Michael videos?

because unique seems to think that michael lip synched all of his performances, so i posted 3 full mj shows to show him otherwise,he claims he already has all the pro shot shows and soundboards..but if this was true he wouldn't have made the "michael mimics his songs" statement.

dm3857 said:

unique said:

^ see what i mean about the youtubes. for fuck sake

prince live albums, one night alone live triple cd set with aftershow cd, and 21 nights in london book with live cd, plus live tracks on purple rain, sign o the times, crystal ball, plus live videos like syracuse, lovesexy, sign o the times, beautiful strange, rave un2, ONA live

btw, i have all the pro shot MJ videos and soundboards in circulation so i know what the fuck i'm talking about without having to watch shitty youtubes, and you'll notice i have no need to post youtubes to prove any points i'm making as they are perfectly clear

MJ mimed during his live shows thus no fucking way can you consider him the best vocalist. end of discussion. if you want to think otherwise go ahead, but you are on your own with the rest of the MJ lunatics

as well as i do!! michael did NOT mimic his songs in the bad tour.. NOT ONE! michael performed all the songs live on the dangerous tour except(jam,smooth criminal,thriller,will u be there,man in the mirror) thats 5 out of 15 songs.. the HIStory tour was mainly playback, but in michaels defense he was going through a bad stage of laryngitis.. and i didn't know you had mj live dvds, there for i was trying to show you that he sang live for his shows for the most part.. i said in the beginning that he was the best vocalist IN MY OPINION, and that i was in NO WAY trying to change your opinion, but when you said he lip synched his tours..i had to say something because besides the HIStory tour, thats just not true.

jezuz fuck, it fucking is true as you've just fucking confirmed yourself

how the fuck can someone post something and then contradict exactly what they just fucking typed themselves?

no wonder no cunt takes MJ fanatics seriously. fucking hell. trolling cunts the lot of them. that the fuck does that have to do with freddy mercury?

unique said:

TylerHippie said:

Why all the Michael videos?

cuz they can't be fucking annoying enough by posting shit, they have to try and fill the whole fucking screen with videos and pictures. it ALWAYS happens if you mention the one gloved kiddie fiddler

dude..just stop!! im not trying to sway your opinion!! and im not bashing anyone you have brought up!!! michael was a great live performer..thats all im saying..for someone who has "all the pro shot shows..and all the sound boards" you show strong dislike towards him.

dm3857 said:

TylerHippie said:

Why all the Michael videos?

because unique seems to think that michael lip synched all of his performances, so i posted 3 full mj shows to show him otherwise,he claims he already has all the pro shot shows and soundboards..but if this was true he wouldn't have made the "michael mimics his songs" statement.

i very clearly didn't say that. so why the fuck would you think that? no-one gives a fuck about your videos. the MJ fans have seen them and the non MJ fans don't give a fuck about watching them. it's just childish posting so much off topic shite

try reading what someone is saying and think about what they are trying to put across and then take into consideration everything else to put it into context instread of trying to twist words to put across your own opposite agenda and you might get a bit fucking further

unique said:

unique said:

dm3857 said:

as well as i do!! michael did NOT mimic his songs in the bad tour.. NOT ONE! michael performed all the songs live on the dangerous tour except(jam,smooth criminal,thriller,will u be there,man in the mirror) thats 5 out of 15 songs.. the HIStory tour was mainly playback, but in michaels defense he was going through a bad stage of laryngitis.. and i didn't know you had mj live dvds, there for i was trying to show you that he sang live for his shows for the most part.. i said in the beginning that he was the best vocalist IN MY OPINION, and that i was in NO WAY trying to change your opinion, but when you said he lip synched his tours..i had to say something because besides the HIStory tour, thats just not true.

jezuz fuck, it fucking is true as you've just fucking confirmed yourself

how the fuck can someone post something and then contradict exactly what they just fucking typed themselves?

no wonder no cunt takes MJ fanatics seriously. fucking hell. trolling cunts the lot of them. that the fuck does that have to do with freddy mercury?

what are you talking about? what did i confirm? i said "michael did NOT mimic his songs in the bad tour.. NOT ONE! michael performed all the songs live on the dangerous tour except(jam,smooth criminal,thriller,will u be there,man in the mirror) thats 5 out of 15 songs.." so what are you talking about?

unique said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

You just posted pages blasting Michael Jackson for no good reason and you say that my opinion isn't worth airing? Come on man, at least try to objective. You can at lest respect him with blasting him and his fans and everyone else who doesn't agree with you.

i posted them with plenty good reason and if you bothered reading instead of posting shit that no-one cares about, you would see that

you know this WAS a thread about freddy mercury? what the fuck have you posted about FM of value? fuck all

This is a thread about Freddie Mercury being one of the best male voalists. It was destined to turn into a thread about other male vocalists.

And you really need to learn to calm yourself down. You are mad ALL THE TIME just because someone doesn't agree with you.

[Edited 8/6/11 14:56pm]

unique said:

dm3857 said:

because unique seems to think that michael lip synched all of his performances, so i posted 3 full mj shows to show him otherwise,he claims he already has all the pro shot shows and soundboards..but if this was true he wouldn't have made the "michael mimics his songs" statement.

i very clearly didn't say that. so why the fuck would you think that? no-one gives a fuck about your videos. the MJ fans have seen them and the non MJ fans don't give a fuck about watching them. it's just childish posting so much off topic shite

try reading what someone is saying and think about what they are trying to put across and then take into consideration everything else to put it into context instread of trying to twist words to put across your own opposite agenda and you might get a bit fucking further

i honestly can not understand what you are trying to say.. you keep bashing me and mj, but you also keep saying things like "im twisting words around" and "you didn't say this" but what are you talking about?!?!?

We need to make it a rule that you could only post 3 vids at a time...

seriously...

dm3857 said:

unique said:

i very clearly didn't say that. so why the fuck would you think that? no-one gives a fuck about your videos. the MJ fans have seen them and the non MJ fans don't give a fuck about watching them. it's just childish posting so much off topic shite

try reading what someone is saying and think about what they are trying to put across and then take into consideration everything else to put it into context instread of trying to twist words to put across your own opposite agenda and you might get a bit fucking further

i honestly can not understand what you are trying to say.. you keep bashing me and mj, but you also keep saying things like "im twisting words around" and "you didn't say this" but what are you talking about?!?!?

if you don't understand what people are saying, it's perhaps an idea not to respond to them

i have nothing against MJ. i've made that pretty fucking clear if you bother to read what i've posted

and i'm not fucking mad or taking this seriously. if you can't fucking tell when people are being light hearted it's time to take a fucking rest. fuck sake. go listen to some queen and chill the fuck out

unique said:

dm3857 said:

i honestly can not understand what you are trying to say.. you keep bashing me and mj, but you also keep saying things like "im twisting words around" and "you didn't say this" but what are you talking about?!?!?

if you don't understand what people are saying, it's perhaps an idea not to respond to them

i have nothing against MJ. i've made that pretty fucking clear if you bother to read what i've posted

and i'm not fucking mad or taking this seriously. if you can't fucking tell when people are being light hearted it's time to take a fucking rest. fuck sake. go listen to some queen and chill the fuck out

HermesReborn said:

We need to make it a rule that you could only post 3 vids at a time...

seriously...

post none videos. folk can look for them themselves if they want to watch em. or worst case scenario post a link without embedding. that's just fucking insanity and bad fucking manners

if cunts took a slice out of my fucking book when it came to posting there would be no fucking problems at all, everyone would fucking get along fine and have perfect fucking manners

unique said:

dm3857 said:

i honestly can not understand what you are trying to say.. you keep bashing me and mj, but you also keep saying things like "im twisting words around" and "you didn't say this" but what are you talking about?!?!?

if you don't understand what people are saying, it's perhaps an idea not to respond to them

i have nothing against MJ. i've made that pretty fucking clear if you bother to read what i've posted

and i'm not fucking mad or taking this seriously. if you can't fucking tell when people are being light hearted it's time to take a fucking rest. fuck sake. go listen to some queen and chill the fuck out

im not mad.. and i have read what your saying.. you keep cursing and carrying on and ect.. i was NEVER 'mad" to begin with, i wanted to show you that michael didn't lip sync all his shows, because thats the way you came across.. i don't want to argue anymore, michael,freddy,and prince are all top notch entertainers..the greatest of all time, we are going to have our own opinions, sorry that this blew up so much, as a fan of mj i just wanted defend him, just like if someone would have said "prince lip syncs his shows" you would have defended him,

lets continue on with the post with out arguing,

truce?

smoothcriminal12 said:

unique said:

if you don't understand what people are saying, it's perhaps an idea not to respond to them

i have nothing against MJ. i've made that pretty fucking clear if you bother to read what i've posted

and i'm not fucking mad or taking this seriously. if you can't fucking tell when people are being light hearted it's time to take a fucking rest. fuck sake. go listen to some queen and chill the fuck out

jezuz fuck, you aren't retarded are you? can't you fucking tell when people are being serious or not? it's a fucking thread about freddie mercury. not about war and fucking peice. fuck sake. you are way off the fucking page

dm3857 said:

unique said:

if you don't understand what people are saying, it's perhaps an idea not to respond to them

i have nothing against MJ. i've made that pretty fucking clear if you bother to read what i've posted

and i'm not fucking mad or taking this seriously. if you can't fucking tell when people are being light hearted it's time to take a fucking rest. fuck sake. go listen to some queen and chill the fuck out

im not mad.. and i have read what your saying.. you keep cursing and carrying on and ect.. i was NEVER 'mad" to begin with, i wanted to show you that michael didn't lip sync all his shows, because thats the way you came across.. i don't want to argue anymore, michael,freddy,and prince are all top notch entertainers..the greatest of all time, we are going to have our own opinions, sorry that this blew up so much, as a fan of mj i just wanted defend him, just like if someone would have said "prince lip syncs his shows" you would have defended him,

lets continue on with the post with out arguing,

truce?

i've got nothing against you to have a truce about. i don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about prince so wouldn't defend him. it's just when MJ fans post a load of shite to try and make MJ seem better than another artist, that's when i'll point out the truths of the matter

so to end this for all. MJ lip synched during his shows as no-one denies, thus is not a better vocalist than freddie mercury who sang live during his shows

and if you don't understand that, go listen to some queen. or look at fucking queen youtubes. just don't post the fuckers here as no cunt wants to see them

I have the best threads ever...

unique said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

jezuz fuck, you aren't retarded are you? can't you fucking tell when people are being serious or not? it's a fucking thread about freddie mercury. not about war and fucking peice. fuck sake. you are way off the fucking page

I didn't say anything. You really need to stop. I'm surprised that you've been on this forum for as long as you have.

unique said:

dm3857 said:

im not mad.. and i have read what your saying.. you keep cursing and carrying on and ect.. i was NEVER 'mad" to begin with, i wanted to show you that michael didn't lip sync all his shows, because thats the way you came across.. i don't want to argue anymore, michael,freddy,and prince are all top notch entertainers..the greatest of all time, we are going to have our own opinions, sorry that this blew up so much, as a fan of mj i just wanted defend him, just like if someone would have said "prince lip syncs his shows" you would have defended him,

lets continue on with the post with out arguing,

truce?

i've got nothing against you to have a truce about. i don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about prince so wouldn't defend him. it's just when MJ fans post a load of shite to try and make MJ seem better than another artist, that's when i'll point out the truths of the matter

so to end this for all. MJ lip synched during his shows as no-one denies, thus is not a better vocalist than freddie mercury who sang live during his shows

and if you don't understand that, go listen to some queen. or look at fucking queen youtubes. just don't post the fuckers here as no cunt wants to see them

Him lip-synching during concerts does not make him a worse vocalist, it just makes him lazier. Your logic is flawed.

smoothcriminal12 said:

unique said:

i've got nothing against you to have a truce about. i don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about prince so wouldn't defend him. it's just when MJ fans post a load of shite to try and make MJ seem better than another artist, that's when i'll point out the truths of the matter

so to end this for all. MJ lip synched during his shows as no-one denies, thus is not a better vocalist than freddie mercury who sang live during his shows

and if you don't understand that, go listen to some queen. or look at fucking queen youtubes. just don't post the fuckers here as no cunt wants to see them

Him lip-synching during concerts does not make him a worse vocalist, it just makes him lazier. Your logic is flawed.

and could you say he lip synced SOME of his shows, because for the most part, his tours where live..besides HIStory. because it comes across as if your saying michael NEVER performed live, which is not true.