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Thread started 07/03/11 1:04pm

controversy99

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Misogyny & Parliament Funkadelic

While I love Funkadelic, I find the misogyny in some of the lyrics to be a problem. I bought Standing on the Verge of Getting It On yesterday and was surprised to hear:

"A luscious bitch she is, true

But it's not nice to fool mother nature
The proud mother of god like all ho's
Is jealous of her own shadow"

I really don't need to hear "bitch" and "ho" in the first 15 seconds of my album. And of course there's "No Head No Backstage Pass" from Let's Take It to the Stage. Even The Mothership Connection has "Handcuffs":

"If I have to keep you barefoot and pregnant

Oh, to keep you here in my world

(Lay down, girl) lay down and take off-a your shoes

Cause I'm a-gonna do to you

What it is I got to do"

Is anybody else troubled by this? And what P-Funk albums do you recommend if I don't want to hear any misogyny?

"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
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Reply #1 posted 07/03/11 1:10pm

armpit

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Funkadelic is party music. You're taking it way too seriously. lol

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #2 posted 07/03/11 1:13pm

Timmy84

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Reply #3 posted 07/03/11 1:19pm

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Timmy84 said:

lol

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Reply #4 posted 07/03/11 1:30pm

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Tell em George. In the kitchen you stay!

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MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #5 posted 07/03/11 1:31pm

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I actually kinda like that first set of lyrics. lol

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Reply #6 posted 07/03/11 1:38pm

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armpit said:

Funkadelic is party music. You're taking it way too seriously. lol

Um, how is it a party if I'm offended?

Keep in mind that I enjoy the hell out P-Funk generally. Their best combines humor, dance, and a serious side. Right now I'm listening to Funkentelechy:

"When you're taking every kind of pill (deprogram, program)

Nothing seems to ever cure your ill"

"Funk is a non-profit organization!"

Great stuff!

"Love & honesty, peace & harmony"
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Reply #7 posted 07/03/11 1:49pm

babynoz

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Tell em George. In the kitchen you stay!

You so crazy, biggrin

Anyhoo, this was recorded before the PC era just like Richard Pryor's albums. That should be taken into consideration.

Also unlike a lot of today's music, it's not like that's what came out of their mouths on every other song.

I think the main problem with the usage of various non-PC words is the tendency to overuse by those with limited vocabulary and limited creativity.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #8 posted 07/03/11 1:50pm

Timmy84

babynoz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Tell em George. In the kitchen you stay!

You so crazy, biggrin

Anyhoo, this was recorded before the PC era just like Richard Pryor's albums. That should be taken into consideration.

Also unlike a lot of today's music, it's not like that's what came out of their mouths on every other song.

I think the main problem with the usage of various non-PC words is the tendency to overuse by those with limited vocabulary and limited creativity.

Exactly. It was a different time obviously. People could say ANYTHING then. Now you're being put under a microscope if you even say anything similar to what the bruhs at Funkadelic were saying then.

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Reply #9 posted 07/03/11 1:59pm

controversy99

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Timmy84 said:

babynoz said:

You so crazy, biggrin

Anyhoo, this was recorded before the PC era just like Richard Pryor's albums. That should be taken into consideration.

Also unlike a lot of today's music, it's not like that's what came out of their mouths on every other song.

I think the main problem with the usage of various non-PC words is the tendency to overuse by those with limited vocabulary and limited creativity.

Exactly. It was a different time obviously. People could say ANYTHING then. Now you're being put under a microscope if you even say anything similar to what the bruhs at Funkadelic were saying then.

um, the PC era? how is it a PC era when so many songs overuse non-PC words, to use your phrase?

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Reply #10 posted 07/03/11 2:10pm

babynoz

controversy99 said:

Timmy84 said:

Exactly. It was a different time obviously. People could say ANYTHING then. Now you're being put under a microscope if you even say anything similar to what the bruhs at Funkadelic were saying then.

um, the PC era? how is it a PC era when so many songs overuse non-PC words, to use your phrase?

What makes this the PC era is that the usage of certain terms is commented on far more frequently than in the past, and the fact that the overuse of those terms is condemned in certain circles.

Just as there are so many artists guilty of this overuse, there's also a much larger backlash than in previous eras.

Pryor used the n-word frequently and not much was said about it at the time until he himself retired the word from his act after visiting Africa. Since then there has been a growing consensus against it's usage even though some artists still insist on using it. The attitude toward certain words has changed in the PC era even if some didn't get the memo. lol

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Reply #11 posted 07/03/11 2:15pm

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If this is misogyny then just about every rapper in the business is a misogynist.

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Reply #12 posted 07/03/11 2:42pm

HuMpThAnG

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If this is misogyny then just about every rapper in the business is a misogynist.

Exactly!!!

And didn't someone else sing about having sex with his sister? hmmm

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Reply #13 posted 07/03/11 2:44pm

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HuMpThAnG said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

If this is misogyny then just about every rapper in the business is a misogynist.

Exactly!!!

And didn't someone else sing about having sex with his sister? hmmm

Doesn't that same guy also have a song called Irresistable Bi*ch? lol

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Reply #14 posted 07/03/11 2:46pm

Timmy84

smoothcriminal12 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

Exactly!!!

And didn't someone else sing about having sex with his sister? hmmm

Doesn't that same guy also have a song called Irresistable Bi*ch? lol

He also committed domestic violence under a character in "Bob George".


So who's zooming who here?

And my favorite artist did an S&M track and was all "bitch are you cumming?!" So if you're gonna get upset at anyone being misogyny, might as well name every male artist that ever recorded in tthe history of recorded music back to the blues era. evillol

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Reply #15 posted 07/03/11 2:47pm

SPYZFAN1

....and keep in mind this is a site for a man that wrote a song called "Irresistible Bitch". And starred in a mega hit blockbuster movie that had misogyny all throughout it (even though he did not write it).

Not saying George is right, but at the same time I try not take some of his stuff too seriously.

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Reply #16 posted 07/03/11 2:48pm

Timmy84

SPYZFAN1 said:

....and keep in mind this is a site for a man that wrote a song called "Irresistible Bitch". And starred in a mega hit blockbuster movie that had misogyny all throughout it (even though he did not write it).

Not saying George is right, but at the same time I try not take some of his stuff too seriously.

Yeah like for example I don't see no tightwad getting upset over George having a song called "Jimmy's Got a Little Bit of Bitch In Him" dedicated to a gay member of Funkadelic's crew. wink

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Reply #17 posted 07/03/11 5:02pm

baroque

there is so much misogyny in music. people just like to make an example of like funk, hip hop and or rap. why? well i'll leave that to you!

how come no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock ! not to mention the female chauvinistic attitudes in the pop world.

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Reply #18 posted 07/03/11 5:04pm

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controversy99 said:

armpit said:

Funkadelic is party music. You're taking it way too seriously. lol

Um, how is it a party if I'm offended?

Keep in mind that I enjoy the hell out P-Funk generally. Their best combines humor, dance, and a serious side. Right now I'm listening to Funkentelechy:

"When you're taking every kind of pill (deprogram, program)

Nothing seems to ever cure your ill"

"Funk is a non-profit organization!"

Great stuff!

How do you even get offended by that? Seriously?

Look, it's the equivalent of someone saying you're a 'bad bitch'. It's actually a compliment and not an insult.

If you're that easily offended, you probably should just stay away from p-funk along with a whole lot of other stuff because you're gonna stay constantly pissed off. lol

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Reply #19 posted 07/03/11 5:06pm

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baroque said:

there is so much misogyny in music. people just like to make an example of like funk, hip hop and or rap. why? well i'll leave that to you!

how come no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock ! not to mention the female chauvinistic attitudes in the pop world.

...Oh no, you went there.

Pull back soldier, pull back!

GET TO THE CHOPPA! falloff

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #20 posted 07/03/11 5:09pm

baroque

armpit said:

baroque said:

there is so much misogyny in music. people just like to make an example of like funk, hip hop and or rap. why? well i'll leave that to you!

how come no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock ! not to mention the female chauvinistic attitudes in the pop world.

...Oh no, you went there.

Pull back soldier, pull back!

GET TO THE CHOPPA! falloff

im saying this without no malice. i'm just saying i've noticed that from people i've been hearing around me. i wish not to offend anyone.

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Reply #21 posted 07/03/11 5:11pm

Harlepolis

controversy99 said:

While I love Funkadelic, I find the misogyny in some of the lyrics to be a problem. I bought Standing on the Verge of Getting It On yesterday and was surprised to hear:

"A luscious bitch she is, true

But it's not nice to fool mother nature
The proud mother of god like all ho's
Is jealous of her own shadow"

I really don't need to hear "bitch" and "ho" in the first 15 seconds of my album. And of course there's "No Head No Backstage Pass" from Let's Take It to the Stage. Even The Mothership Connection has "Handcuffs":

"If I have to keep you barefoot and pregnant

Oh, to keep you here in my world

(Lay down, girl) lay down and take off-a your shoes

Cause I'm a-gonna do to you

What it is I got to do"

Is anybody else troubled by this? And what P-Funk albums do you recommend if I don't want to hear any misogyny?

Not I.

Pure bless to my eardrums.

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Reply #22 posted 07/03/11 5:13pm

Timmy84

baroque said:

armpit said:

...Oh no, you went there.

Pull back soldier, pull back!

GET TO THE CHOPPA! falloff

im saying this without no malice. i'm just saying i've noticed that from people i've been hearing around me. i wish not to offend anyone.

You sure didn't offend me. I agree! nod

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Reply #23 posted 07/03/11 5:24pm

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U sho ain't fonky if this bothers U!

HOLLERIFUHEARME

[Edited 7/3/11 17:24pm]

You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam!
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Reply #24 posted 07/03/11 5:57pm

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Thank you hit and runner, your'e about 37 years too late with your aggravation. Ain't nothing left to do but throw that shit away, set the funk free.

Jeux Sans Frontiers
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Reply #25 posted 07/03/11 6:09pm

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baroque said:

there is so much misogyny in music. people just like to make an example of like funk, hip hop and or rap. why? well i'll leave that to you!

how come no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock ! not to mention the female chauvinistic attitudes in the pop world.

Are you familiar with the PMRC? They had an awful lot to say about the lyrics in rock music.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PMRC

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Reply #26 posted 07/03/11 6:28pm

armpit

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baroque said:

armpit said:

...Oh no, you went there.

Pull back soldier, pull back!

GET TO THE CHOPPA! falloff

im saying this without no malice. i'm just saying i've noticed that from people i've been hearing around me. i wish not to offend anyone.

I know, but that's...like....it might get real weird in here soon cuz you said that lol.

That's the elephant in the room that you aren't supposed to point out.

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #27 posted 07/03/11 6:29pm

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minneapolisFunq said:

U sho ain't fonky if this bothers U!

HOLLERIFUHEARME

[Edited 7/3/11 17:24pm]

...True. lol

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Reply #28 posted 07/03/11 7:21pm

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Damn, some of you all can be mean. I think it's a good question to ask. Drop the 'tude folks---at least once a month. lol

Space for sale...
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Reply #29 posted 07/03/11 8:09pm

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IMO, if one digs deeply into P-Funks VERY broad catalog...

They frequently are making some kind of "socio-political" statement....(drugs, laws, relationships, etc).

Their habit of doing it often with puns & witty symbolism (kind of a "wink-wink, chuckle" kinda humor) doesn't detract from the seriousness of the subject matter that GC & crew have covered.

P-Funk will move yer ass....but almost always intended to be provocatively thoughtful, too at some level.

I too, have been alternately "shocked..offended...had my mind changed" by a bunch of P-Funk.

"THINK....it ain't illegal, yet."

Funk Is It's Own Reward
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