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Thread started 06/07/11 3:02pm

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Suede reissues (2cd/1dvd)

These look fantastic. Three discs each featuring the original album and some demos on the first disc, the b-sides on the second disc and a dvd with assorted videos, live performances and documentaries. All five studio albums will be reissued. I'm not sure where I'll find the cash for these but they all look like must buys to me.

Here is an interesting preview:

http://www.3dicd.com/Suede/

Click on an album and a window launches that features a reproduction of the booklet and samples of the songs.

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/11 12:20am

Toofunkyinhere

I love Suede!, especially Dog Man Star and Coming Up. These guys were way underrated, i think Brett Anderson has one of the great voices!

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Reply #2 posted 06/08/11 12:25am

Timmy84

I'm gonna check them out real soon. Thanks. Brett Anderson is gorgeous. love

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Reply #3 posted 06/08/11 12:32am

Toofunkyinhere

Bit of a shame i already have Sci-Fi Lullabies which has most of the B-Sides from the first 3 albums, which kind of makes these remasters a bit of a waste of time for me to get, Dog Man Star's probably the first one i'd go for though "The Living Dead, "My Dark Star","Killing Of a Flash Boy and "Modern Boys" are all amazing songs. Very impressive remasters!

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Reply #4 posted 06/08/11 3:09am

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Toofunkyinhere said:

Bit of a shame i already have Sci-Fi Lullabies which has most of the B-Sides from the first 3 albums, which kind of makes these remasters a bit of a waste of time for me to get, Dog Man Star's probably the first one i'd go for though "The Living Dead, "My Dark Star","Killing Of a Flash Boy and "Modern Boys" are all amazing songs. Very impressive remasters!

I think you still get roughly a full disc of previously unreleased music (demos and outtakes plus some b-sides that were left off of Sci-Fi Lullabies) and the dvd's look like they are pretty packed.

Oddly, it looks like the promo videos are not included on the Dog Man Star dvd. confused

Now I'm just waiting for Blur's catalog to get a similar treatment.

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Reply #5 posted 06/08/11 5:13am

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These look great, but I'm not going to spend money on these since I have all the albums, about 20 CD-singles and one EP. Buying those one at a time was already a too big of an investment for a student like me. I don't really see the point in remastering their music since at least to my ears the audio quality on the original releases is perfect.

"Life's an elevator, it goes up and down. Life's an elevator can't you dig the sound?" -Marc Bolan
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Reply #6 posted 06/08/11 8:05am

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I've pre-ordered them all, and the first one arrived on Saturday. I've been listening to it like crazy, it sounds absolutely amazing. Yeah, I had all the b-sides, but it's nice to have them all in one package, and sounding so wonderful. There is also really cool content on the DVD - - all the videos, plus 2 live performances and an interesting interview with Brett and Bernard.

Suede is one of my favorite bands, and I can't wait for Dog Man Star to arrive!!

Brett did an interesting note in the package for the reissue of the first album, giving an alternate tracklisting - if he could go back in time, he'd have put on My Insatiable One and To the Birds in place of Moving and Animal Lover. Their b-sides are definitely some of their strongest tunes.

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Reply #7 posted 06/08/11 11:33pm

Toofunkyinhere

Yeah they look pretty tasty, i'll probably end up getting a couple anyway, won't be able to resist them looking at them in the record store;-)

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Reply #8 posted 06/09/11 4:19am

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I'm not 100% sure but it looks like there are some live tracks and remixes that were originally released as b-sides that are not going to be included. I can kind of understand that as the discs will probably flow much better without them and they are often the kinds of songs that you will only listen to once or twice but it still would have been great if everything was included.

Also, wasn't there an alternate version of New Morning that you could access on your computer? At the time that album was released I didn't even own a computer so I never heard those songs. I wonder if some of them are in the reissues and if the others might be available for download?

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Reply #9 posted 06/09/11 6:22am

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"A New Morning" was substantially re-recorded with a different producer when it was released, and at one point Suede did put several of the earlier versions of the songs w/ the different producer available to download online. There are some demos on the reissue but it doesn't look like those alternate verions are included. They should be widely available over the interwebs to d/load, I assume - I've never bothered to track them down personally.


I really like "A New Morning" but I think that the sequencing and track selection was flawed. As ususal they left some of the better songs as b-sides. Also the first single was wrong and the artwork and title didn't exactly scream "SUEDE". But it does have some really great material. I think it could have done much better commercially with a little tweaking.

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Reply #10 posted 06/09/11 3:02pm

Toofunkyinhere

Yes my version of A New Morning says the same thing (place cd into computer to access a whole album worth of unheard material), however when i put it in my computer nothing happens:-( . I really like that album aswell, the bonus tracks in particular ("You Belong to Me","Oceans","Superstar") greatly improve it, I've always wished "You Belong to Me" was included a little further up the tracklisting (maybe track 3?) to make it a bit more upbeat at the start,
anyone know if any of the other outtakes are woth checking out?, I also know "Love the Way You Love" and "Attitude" from the singles album both of which i like. I think Head Music is a good album aswell (the first half anyway).

PS i just listened to "This World Needs a Father" on youtube for the first time, another great undiscovered gem of a b-side, can't believe it wasn't on Sci-Fi Lullabies! he even says Sci-Fi Lullabies in it!

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Reply #11 posted 06/09/11 3:48pm

Toofunkyinhere

Also how about that Tears album? i always forget about that one, anyone else like it? i love it!

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Reply #12 posted 06/09/11 4:18pm

JoeTyler

I'm not sure if I want to listen to Suede ever again...

don't get me wrong, their 92-97 work is fantastic, but hell, if there ever was a band for the "young people" hell that's Suede. Yes, I'm getting old, I know, but for me, some bands are better left out in the past, when I was 14-22 years old... touched

hell, I still think that's one of the reasons that the band broke up, they were young AND they were making music for the young people of the 90s generation, and then, good riddance...

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Reply #13 posted 06/09/11 4:24pm

Timmy84

I'm of the '90s generation so I definitely wanna cop the classic shit from them.

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Reply #14 posted 06/09/11 4:29pm

JoeTyler

Timmy84 said:

I'm of the '90s generation so I definitely wanna cop the classic shit from them.

yeah, but we're not 17 anymore lol that's why I can't hear their stuff again...

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Reply #15 posted 06/09/11 4:30pm

Timmy84

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm of the '90s generation so I definitely wanna cop the classic shit from them.

yeah, but we're not 17 anymore lol that's why I can't hear their stuff again...

I have one of those moods where if I do wanna feel nostalgic, I'll seek it. wink

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Reply #16 posted 06/09/11 4:33pm

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Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

yeah, but we're not 17 anymore lol that's why I can't hear their stuff again...

I have one of those moods where if I do wanna feel nostalgic, I'll seek it. wink

wink

one of the things that pisses me off about the 90s bands is that they disappeared after relatively short careers confused that's why I prefer to leave those bands in the past...and that's why Pearl Jam is still my fav "90s" band, lol

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Reply #17 posted 06/09/11 4:34pm

Timmy84

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

I have one of those moods where if I do wanna feel nostalgic, I'll seek it. wink

wink

one of the things that pisses me off about the 90s bands is that they disappeared after relatively short careers confused that's why I prefer to leave those bands in the past...and that's why Pearl Jam is still my fav "90s" band, lol

lol

In the case of Nirvana, its front man died, same with Alice in Chains until finding another singer and Weiland and his problems with STP.

The '90s bands, all of them, seem to have potential but then other things got in the way.

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Reply #18 posted 06/09/11 4:39pm

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Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

wink

one of the things that pisses me off about the 90s bands is that they disappeared after relatively short careers confused that's why I prefer to leave those bands in the past...and that's why Pearl Jam is still my fav "90s" band, lol

lol

In the case of Nirvana, its front man died, same with Alice in Chains until finding another singer and Weiland and his problems with STP.

The '90s bands, all of them, seem to have potential but then other things got in the way.

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yeah, Nirvana and AiC represent everything wrong about 90s bands, and it hurts cuz they were amazing musically. Oasis also had the potential for a +30 years career but they finally blew it a couple of years ago, fuckin' Abel & Cain lol, too bad that 2 brothers can't stand each other... neutral

so, Pearl Jam, I guess lol

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Reply #19 posted 06/09/11 4:42pm

Timmy84

JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

lol

In the case of Nirvana, its front man died, same with Alice in Chains until finding another singer and Weiland and his problems with STP.

The '90s bands, all of them, seem to have potential but then other things got in the way.

[Edited 6/9/11 16:35pm]

yeah, Nirvana and AiC represent everything wrong about 90s bands, and it hurts cuz they were amazing musically. Oasis also had the potential for a +30 years career but they finally blew it a couple of years ago, fuckin' Abel & Cain lol, too bad that 2 brothers can't stand each other... neutral

so, Pearl Jam, I guess lol

Oasis got on my fucking nerves and it was not just their attitude. I also hated how the media, especially in the UK, was hyping them up like they were the '90s Beatles. Far from it. neutral

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Reply #20 posted 06/09/11 4:47pm

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Toofunkyinhere said:

Yes my version of A New Morning says the same thing (place cd into computer to access a whole album worth of unheard material), however when i put it in my computer nothing happens:-( . I really like that album aswell, the bonus tracks in particular ("You Belong to Me","Oceans","Superstar") greatly improve it, I've always wished "You Belong to Me" was included a little further up the tracklisting (maybe track 3?) to make it a bit more upbeat at the start,
anyone know if any of the other outtakes are woth checking out?, I also know "Love the Way You Love" and "Attitude" from the singles album both of which i like. I think Head Music is a good album aswell (the first half anyway).

PS i just listened to "This World Needs a Father" on youtube for the first time, another great undiscovered gem of a b-side, can't believe it wasn't on Sci-Fi Lullabies! he even says Sci-Fi Lullabies in it!

There are several terrific b-sides from the "New Morning" period - especially "Golden Gun" which backed up "Attitude", "Simon" - which Brett Anderson said should have been on the album - "Cool Thing", which in my opinion should have not only been on the album, but should have been a single, and several others.

They really fucked up with the sequencing and tracklisting, and with the first single "Positivity". Had they released "Obsessions" first, followed by "Cool Thing" with "Streetlife" and/or "Beautiful Loser" as subsequent singles, I think it would have done fairly well.

Agree on "This World Needs a Father" - great tune. The first one in the studio after the departure of Bernard Butler, I believe. Was b-side to "New Generation". It is included on the "Dog Man Star" reissue, which - dammit - didn't arrive today as I'd hoped. Maybe tomorrow!!!

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Reply #21 posted 06/09/11 4:47pm

JoeTyler

Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

yeah, Nirvana and AiC represent everything wrong about 90s bands, and it hurts cuz they were amazing musically. Oasis also had the potential for a +30 years career but they finally blew it a couple of years ago, fuckin' Abel & Cain lol, too bad that 2 brothers can't stand each other... neutral

so, Pearl Jam, I guess lol

Oasis got on my fucking nerves and it was not just their attitude. I also hated how the media, especially in the UK, was hyping them up like they were the '90s Beatles. Far from it. neutral

well, in the 94-96 it seemed that way; I mean, the songs of that period are THAT good; after that, meh, just 6/10 material until the mid-00's excellent new albums...

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Reply #22 posted 06/09/11 4:49pm

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Timmy84 said:

I'm of the '90s generation so I definitely wanna cop the classic shit from them.

Their first 3 albums - and the accompanying b-sides - are all as good as anything that came out in the 90's. There was a definite drop for their final 2 albums, but they are still very good in my opinion. But at minimum, get their first 3. I'd recommend all 5.

They just put out a new 2-disc retrospective "Best Of". Disc one is singles, disc two is the best album tracks and b-sides. The compilation focuses heavily on the first 3 albums. It would be a good sampler to start with.

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Reply #23 posted 06/09/11 4:49pm

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JoeTyler said:

Timmy84 said:

Oasis got on my fucking nerves and it was not just their attitude. I also hated how the media, especially in the UK, was hyping them up like they were the '90s Beatles. Far from it. neutral

well, in the 94-96 it seemed that way; I mean, the songs of that period are THAT good; after that, meh, just 6/10 material until the mid-00's excellent new albums...

Oasis bought that hype too. That's why they fizzled out so quickly. They ain't shit now. And Liam and Noel, I wouldn't mind busting either of them with a bat.

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Reply #24 posted 06/09/11 4:49pm

Timmy84

NoVideo said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm of the '90s generation so I definitely wanna cop the classic shit from them.

Their first 3 albums - and the accompanying b-sides - are all as good as anything that came out in the 90's. There was a definite drop for their final 2 albums, but they are still very good in my opinion. But at minimum, get their first 3. I'd recommend all 5.

They just put out a new 2-disc retrospective "Best Of". Disc one is singles, disc two is the best album tracks and b-sides. The compilation focuses heavily on the first 3 albums. It would be a good sampler to start with.

Thanks I will. smile

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Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

well, in the 94-96 it seemed that way; I mean, the songs of that period are THAT good; after that, meh, just 6/10 material until the mid-00's excellent new albums...

Oasis bought that hype too. That's why they fizzled out so quickly. They ain't shit now. And Liam and Noel, I wouldn't mind busting either of them with a bat.

Agreed. Their 2nd album was terrific, and they had a few scattered singles after that which I liked, but they fizzled long before they realized they fizzled. Suede was much better, IMHO.

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Timmy84 said:

JoeTyler said:

well, in the 94-96 it seemed that way; I mean, the songs of that period are THAT good; after that, meh, just 6/10 material until the mid-00's excellent new albums...

Oasis bought that hype too. That's why they fizzled out so quickly. They ain't shit now. And Liam and Noel, I wouldn't mind busting either of them with a bat.

spit that's cold lol

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Reply #27 posted 06/09/11 4:51pm

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NoVideo said:

Timmy84 said:

Oasis bought that hype too. That's why they fizzled out so quickly. They ain't shit now. And Liam and Noel, I wouldn't mind busting either of them with a bat.

Agreed. Their 2nd album was terrific, and they had a few scattered singles after that which I liked, but they fizzled long before they realized they fizzled. Suede was much better, IMHO.

wow, Suede also fizzled after Coming Up...

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JoeTyler said:

NoVideo said:

Agreed. Their 2nd album was terrific, and they had a few scattered singles after that which I liked, but they fizzled long before they realized they fizzled. Suede was much better, IMHO.

wow, Suede also fizzled after Coming Up...

Which they readily admit; good luck getting that kind of admission from the Gallagher brothers.

Well, they do defend "Head Music" to an extent, but they realize their strongest work was the first three. That's evident from the interviews, and their track selection for the recent compilation and their live shows.

But I'd argue their last 2 albums - while not up to their earlier standard - are still better than anything that Oasis put out post-Morning Glory.

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Reply #29 posted 06/09/11 4:58pm

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NoVideo said:

JoeTyler said:

wow, Suede also fizzled after Coming Up...

Which they readily admit; good luck getting that kind of admission from the Gallagher brothers.

Well, they do defend "Head Music" to an extent, but they realize their strongest work was the first three. That's evident from the interviews, and their track selection for the recent compilation and their live shows.

But I'd argue their last 2 albums - while not up to their earlier standard - are still better than anything that Oasis put out post-Morning Glory.

wait, are they currently touring? eek

but meh, their last two albums were too poppy, happy and...safe? I prefer the bitter, troubled Suede, even Coming Up had some definite darkness behind the catchy choruses...

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