Timmy84 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

It really is all about the way one asks the question, isn't it?

Exactly! Plus if it had been that question, this thread would be over but some people just wanna see themselves type words...

Especially those on a public relations campaign (or life mission) for their favorite artist!

purplethunder3121 said:

Timmy84 said:

Exactly! Plus if it had been that question, this thread would be over but some people just wanna see themselves type words...

Especially those on a public relations campaign (or life mission) for their favorite artist!

Yeah like a dozen people here...

[Edited 8/3/11 16:01pm]

Timmy84 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Whoever you like the best is The Greatest Entertainer Ever.

Mine is a tie between Prince and Springsteen.

Honestly, if Tyler had asked that question, I think the majority in here would've picked Prince (including me) with FEW exceptions.

LOL, I didn't even read his post. I just answered the question he asked in the title.

I saw he had a Queen video in his post so I figured his answer was Freddie Mercury.

RodeoSchro said:

Timmy84 said:

Honestly, if Tyler had asked that question, I think the majority in here would've picked Prince (including me) with FEW exceptions.

LOL, I didn't even read his post. I just answered the question he asked in the title.

I saw he had a Queen video in his post so I figured his answer was Freddie Mercury.

He said that was his second pick. I think Prince was his first.

My Uncle Teddy was the greatest entertainer after consuming 2 bottles of Wild Turkey and some Maker's Mark. No lie.

TylerHippie said:

That's your opinion. Damn, did you really just say Queen suck?

[Edited 8/3/11 10:55am]

"Why Queen suck" by elmer

Freddie Mercury
Freddie Mercury's songs
Freddie Mercury's moustache
Freddie Mercury's stage presence

Freddie Mercury's attempts at transvestitism
Brian May
Brian May's guitar playing
Brian May's hair
Brian May's love of astronomy

Timmy84 said:

But after that, nothing. Sammy paid the price for being the greatest entertainer because it came with more baggage than Michael or Prince could've ever imagined but I'm sure they knew because they read about it and heard about it. So did James.

I completely agree with this. When I introduced my kids to Sammy they were literally in awe. They ended up on a youtube marathon, finding other jewels from the past as well from various entertainers. I think it's important for parents to make sure their children are aware of past generation greats so that they genuinely form a holistic view in regards to whatever subject they find interesting. I introduced my children to a diverse range of music beginning when they were toddlers, ranging from classical to rock. I exposed them to piano lessons, guitar lessons, dance (multiple styles) and more. My oldest is 18 and he went to a predominately African American high school his senior year. It was a shock to him because he was called "weird" by many because of his musical taste, considering he's African American. He listens to everything from Disturbed to Prince to Ludacris. He even has Etta James on his Ipod, whom he says is his favorite female singer ever! He is open minded to all music and I think that it is important to instill different music (backgrounds) in children as well as their contributions to music individually and collectively.

Michael recognized what Sammy endured in order to be recognized, paving the way for many behind him. So when I see the following video I feel for Sammy as he cries because he knows what he went through, in the end, did not go unnoticed.

InspirationalOne said:

Timmy84 said:

But after that, nothing. Sammy paid the price for being the greatest entertainer because it came with more baggage than Michael or Prince could've ever imagined but I'm sure they knew because they read about it and heard about it. So did James.

I completely agree with this. When I introduced my kids to Sammy they were literally in awe. They ended up on a youtube marathon, finding other jewels from the past as well from various entertainers. I think it's important for parents to make sure their children are aware of past generation greats so that they genuinely form a holistic view in regards to whatever subject they find interesting. I introduced my children to a diverse range of music beginning when they were toddlers, ranging from classical to rock. I exposed them to piano lessons, guitar lessons, dance (multiple styles) and more. My oldest is 18 and he went to a predominately African American high school his senior year. It was a shock to him because he was called "weird" by many because of his musical taste, considering he's African American. He listens to everything from Disturbed to Prince to Ludacris. He even has Etta James on his Ipod, whom he says is his favorite female singer ever! He is open minded to all music and I think that it is important to instill different music (backgrounds) in children as well as their contributions to music individually and collectively.

Michael recognized what Sammy endured in order to be recognized, paving the way for many behind him. So when I see the following video I feel for Sammy as he cries because he knows what he went through, in the end, did not go unnoticed.

Yeah I definitely agree and props on you raising your kid on music.

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I definitely agree and props on you raising your kid on music.

Thank you. I couldn't have it any other way. Life is too short to be closed minded. I want my children to soar higher than I did so they can experience life from a different point of view. That's only feasible if they are open to difference and change.

InspirationalOne said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I definitely agree and props on you raising your kid on music.

Thank you. I couldn't have it any other way. Life is too short to be closed minded. I want my children to soar higher than I did so they can experience life from a different point of view. That's only feasible if they are open to difference and change.

I feel ya.

JAMES BROWN.

InspirationalOne said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I definitely agree and props on you raising your kid on music.

Thank you. I couldn't have it any other way. Life is too short to be closed minded. I want my children to soar higher than I did so they can experience life from a different point of view. That's only feasible if they are open to difference and change.

Inspir---I don't have kids but wow, you set such a good example for yours that it gives me a good example to follow if I end up being a parent one day. It's refreshing to hear that younger kids know that more than "Weezy" "Breezy" and "Drake" exist...well done

InspirationalOne said:

Timmy84 said:

But after that, nothing. Sammy paid the price for being the greatest entertainer because it came with more baggage than Michael or Prince could've ever imagined but I'm sure they knew because they read about it and heard about it. So did James.

I completely agree with this. When I introduced my kids to Sammy they were literally in awe. They ended up on a youtube marathon, finding other jewels from the past as well from various entertainers. I think it's important for parents to make sure their children are aware of past generation greats so that they genuinely form a holistic view in regards to whatever subject they find interesting. I introduced my children to a diverse range of music beginning when they were toddlers, ranging from classical to rock. I exposed them to piano lessons, guitar lessons, dance (multiple styles) and more. My oldest is 18 and he went to a predominately African American high school his senior year. It was a shock to him because he was called "weird" by many because of his musical taste, considering he's African American. He listens to everything from Disturbed to Prince to Ludacris. He even has Etta James on his Ipod, whom he says is his favorite female singer ever! He is open minded to all music and I think that it is important to instill different music (backgrounds) in children as well as their contributions to music individually and collectively.

Michael recognized what Sammy endured in order to be recognized, paving the way for many behind him. So when I see the following video I feel for Sammy as he cries because he knows what he went through, in the end, did not go unnoticed.

After I started reading Sammy's autobiography, Michael's "You Were There" took a new perspective.

Sammy til he was a young adult, didn't see color and was confused about racism. He grew up on stage and didn't get why people didn't like him and his father because of the color of their skin. He was a little boy and because hotels wouldn't let he, his father, and his uncle stay, they had to sleep at a train station and they were barely getting paid. He went into the army and his bunkmates tortured him. Once they took white paint, wrote the n word across his chest and had him dance and then beat him up, but all the pain he went through NEVER broke him. Sammy was a true entertainer and innovator IMO

I'll never forget the part where he went to Miami for a show (he was the headline act) and the hotel he was performing in wouldn't let him stay, even had a a sign saying "No N-words and No Dogs". He got tired of it and began to FORCE them into letting him stay. Sammy's struggles led to many things many enterainers these days are able to do with ease

So when I saw Michael's clip again after watching it and then seeing Sammy on Arsenio and alluded that Michael was his heir, I understood

I think Michael got what Sammy went through because he went through similar things on a lesser scale when he was younger. Michael grew up on the chitlin circuit and was the opening act for people like James Brown, Jackie Wilson, Etta James, The O'Jays

I was the same way as your son My friends didn't get my taste in music or films. My dance teacher was surprised that I knew about Fred Astaire or The Nicholas Brothers

[Edited 8/3/11 21:59pm]

Timmy84 said:

chocolate1 said:

Qusetions like this are too subjective.

People like different things: A person might name his/her favorite pop artist. Someone else might name an opera singer. A jazz musician. A dancer. A broadway star.

It depends on what people are entertained by...

Mmhmm exactly.

what we may consider "crazy entertainment" that other cultures THOURGHLY enjoy, may seem totally banal to us. Does it mean it's less entertaining? No.

Whenever I see that silly GIF with the fat guy danciing a shaking around in a thong, I love it. It THOURGHLY entertains me. I laugh out loud nearly every single time and stay and watch it for a while.

There SOOO many types and degrees of entertainment, it is not possible, in ANY manner, to try to narrow something down like that.

bboy87 said:

InspirationalOne said:

I completely agree with this. When I introduced my kids to Sammy they were literally in awe. They ended up on a youtube marathon, finding other jewels from the past as well from various entertainers. I think it's important for parents to make sure their children are aware of past generation greats so that they genuinely form a holistic view in regards to whatever subject they find interesting. I introduced my children to a diverse range of music beginning when they were toddlers, ranging from classical to rock. I exposed them to piano lessons, guitar lessons, dance (multiple styles) and more. My oldest is 18 and he went to a predominately African American high school his senior year. It was a shock to him because he was called "weird" by many because of his musical taste, considering he's African American. He listens to everything from Disturbed to Prince to Ludacris. He even has Etta James on his Ipod, whom he says is his favorite female singer ever! He is open minded to all music and I think that it is important to instill different music (backgrounds) in children as well as their contributions to music individually and collectively.

Michael recognized what Sammy endured in order to be recognized, paving the way for many behind him. So when I see the following video I feel for Sammy as he cries because he knows what he went through, in the end, did not go unnoticed.

After I started reading Sammy's autobiography, Michael's "You Were There" took a new perspective.

Sammy til he was a young adult, didn't see color and was confused about racism. He grew up on stage and didn't get why people didn't like him and his father because of the color of their skin. He was a little boy and because hotels wouldn't let he, his father, and his uncle stay, they had to sleep at a train station and they were barely getting paid. He went into the army and his bunkmates tortured him. Once they took white paint, wrote the n word across his chest and had him dance and then beat him up, but all the pain he went through NEVER broke him. Sammy was a true entertainer and innovator IMO

I'll never forget the part where he went to Miami for a show (he was the headline act) and the hotel he was performing in wouldn't let him stay, even had a a sign saying "No N-words and No Dogs". He got tired of it and began to FORCE them into letting him stay. Sammy's struggles led to many things many enterainers these days are able to do with ease

So when I saw Michael's clip again after watching it and then seeing Sammy on Arsenio and alluded that Michael was his heir, I understood

I think Michael got what Sammy went through because he went through similar things on a lesser scale when he was younger. Michael grew up on the chitlin circuit and was the opening act for people like James Brown, Jackie Wilson, Etta James, The O'Jays

I was the same way as your son My friends didn't get my taste in music or films. My dance teacher was surprised that I knew about Fred Astaire or The Nicholas Brothers

[Edited 8/3/11 21:59pm]

what book are you speaking of?

id like to pick one up, thanks!

Thought this would be interesting to see. Skip to 0:59 to see Sammy call Mike one of the greatest entertainers ever. Great to see that they had mutual respect.

bboy87 said:

Graycap23 said:

Trying 2 be objective, I'd say Sammy was the single most talented individual period.

He left no stones unturned in the entertainment world.

Gray have you read the book "Sammy"? It's a combo of his 2 autobiographies with more parts added on. It's a great read. It was like he had to try every form of entertainment. It's a shame that he's sometimes forgotten

I know I need 2 read it....but I have such a backlog of books right now it's out of control.

1 day............I will.

Graycap23 said:

bboy87 said:

Gray have you read the book "Sammy"? It's a combo of his 2 autobiographies with more parts added on. It's a great read. It was like he had to try every form of entertainment. It's a shame that he's sometimes forgotten

I know I need 2 read it....but I have such a backlog of books right now it's out of control.

1 day............I will.

You HAVE TO. I had to hold back tears in the part where he was enduring the mistreatment from his fellow soldiers. This guy didn't know anything about racism or why people hated him or looked down on him because he was black. I felt the same way when I watched this documentary called "Ethnic Notions". To think about the things Sammy, Bogangles, Ethel Waters, Hattie McDaniel and so many others had to endure....

bboy87 said:

Graycap23 said:

I know I need 2 read it....but I have such a backlog of books right now it's out of control.

1 day............I will.

You HAVE TO. I had to hold back tears in the part where he was enduring the mistreatment from his fellow soldiers. This guy didn't know anything about racism or why people hated him or looked down on him because he was black. I felt the same way when I watched this documentary called "Ethnic Notions". To think about the things Sammy, Bogangles, Ethel Waters, Hattie McDaniel and so many others had to endure....

...and which should never be forgotten, especially by this and coming generations.

In terms of Sammi Davis Jr.

I'm not trying to be anti-semitic, but lets call a spade a spade here. He sang some ditties, read some lines, tappd danced and snapped his fingers....the greatest entertainer ever? Really? I've been more entertained by a hamster on a wheel.

I'm not even gonna talk about Elvis' racist ass.

Michael jackson could sing and dance and make children cream their pants...in more ways than one. One who CONTINUALLY relied on other's instead of himself to remain relevant...while HE ws busy popping pills and and getting anesthesised(sp?)

I'm going to go with someone and give my reason and I expect to be flamed just as much as I flamed....

Robert fickin Johnson

the world first "ROCK" musician. He lived on the fronline and reported what he saw. He wlked that crumbly edge of the grand canyon and told us how it felt, so we don't all have to do it. I'm not speaking to first musical celebrity cuz there' motzart and all that shit. I'm talking Rock & Roll. He purposefuly tempted fate, ultimately paid the price. but his music spoke to the emotions involved in living on the edge....shared that alll with us. I don't believe this was his intent, but it's what happened.

it's a model that is followed to this day. The people who live on the edge(drug use, halucanigins(sp?), sexual escapaades,they roll th dice and put it all the line) and report from the front line action to us so we don't all have to and we can learn from them. Most make it thru, some don't. I salute the soldiers. I don't condone the behavior, but I respect it.

BobGeorge909 said:

In terms of Sammi Davis Jr.

I'm not trying to be anti-semitic, but lets call a spade a spade here. He sang some ditties, read some lines, tappd danced and snapped his fingers....the greatest entertainer ever? Really? I've been more entertained by a hamster on a wheel.

I'm not even gonna talk about Elvis' racist ass.

Michael jackson could sing and dance and make children cream their pants...in more ways than one. One who CONTINUALLY relied on other's instead of himself to remain relevant...while HE ws busy popping pills and and getting anesthesised(sp?)

Not even right, dude.

smoothcriminal12 said:

BobGeorge909 said:

In terms of Sammi Davis Jr.

I'm not trying to be anti-semitic, but lets call a spade a spade here. He sang some ditties, read some lines, tappd danced and snapped his fingers....the greatest entertainer ever? Really? I've been more entertained by a hamster on a wheel.

I'm not even gonna talk about Elvis' racist ass.

Michael jackson could sing and dance and make children cream their pants...in more ways than one. One who CONTINUALLY relied on other's instead of himself to remain relevant...while HE ws busy popping pills and and getting anesthesised(sp?)

Not even right, dude.

U're right. I won't argue. I don't believe it to be true. Honestly...I think he had some boundary issues in that regard, but I don't think he molested hose kids. this disclaimer would have come btw, with or without your reply.

it's just it's the ongoing joke with him...and...

it rhymed so well

BobGeorge909 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Not even right, dude.

U're right. I won't argue. I don't believe it to be true. Honestly...I think he had some boundary issues in that regard, but I don't think he molested hose kids. this disclaimer would have come btw, with or without your reply.

it's just it's the ongoing joke with him...and...

it rhymed so well

Meh. I'll forgive you.

smoothcriminal12 said:

BobGeorge909 said:

U're right. I won't argue. I don't believe it to be true. Honestly...I think he had some boundary issues in that regard, but I don't think he molested hose kids. this disclaimer would have come btw, with or without your reply.

it's just it's the ongoing joke with him...and...

it rhymed so well

Meh. I'll forgive you.

My second run-on scentence stands however.

BobGeorge909 said:

In terms of Sammi Davis Jr.

I'm not trying to be anti-semitic, but lets call a spade a spade here. He sang some ditties, read some lines, tappd danced and snapped his fingers....the greatest entertainer ever? Really? I've been more entertained by a hamster on a wheel.

I'm not even gonna talk about Elvis' racist ass.

Michael jackson could sing and dance and make children cream their pants...in more ways than one. One who CONTINUALLY relied on other's instead of himself to remain relevant...while HE ws busy popping pills and and getting anesthesised(sp?)

i hope you'll feel better in the morning. with all due respect.

[Edited 8/4/11 20:26pm]

free2bfreeda said:

i hope you'll feel better in the morning. with all due respect.

[Edited 8/4/11 20:26pm]

don't do that. I feel fine. keep the flower too.

Like it was said before, it's subjective. I think Sammy was GREAT along with Michael and James. I don't think some folks see what the big deal about Sammy because the bar has been raised BUT the man could put on one hell of a show

One guy who I haven't seen mentioned...

[img:$uid]http://www.celebritymen.info/resimler/fred-astaire-10.jpg[/img:$uid]

DakutiusMaximus said:

Hero0101 said:

All due respect, the best live performances I have ever seen have come from this woman:

[img:$uid]http://files.myopera.com/jekav/blog/tori-amos.jpg[/img:$uid]

Either solo or with a band, this woman brings it. Easily the most intense, emotional, powerful thing I've ever seen.

=0P

Ok, I have to confess my lack of hipness here. I don't know the face.

Just who is "this woman" that delivers the best live performances?

It's Tori Amos.

=0P

BobGeorge909 said:

In terms of Sammi Davis Jr.

I'm not trying to be anti-semitic, but lets call a spade a spade here. He sang some ditties, read some lines, tappd danced and snapped his fingers....the greatest entertainer ever? Really? I've been more entertained by a hamster on a wheel.

I'm not even gonna talk about Elvis' racist ass.

Michael jackson could sing and dance and make children cream their pants...in more ways than one. One who CONTINUALLY relied on other's instead of himself to remain relevant...while HE ws busy popping pills and and getting anesthesised(sp?)

I'm going to go with someone and give my reason and I expect to be flamed just as much as I flamed....

Robert fickin Johnson

the world first "ROCK" musician. He lived on the fronline and reported what he saw. He wlked that crumbly edge of the grand canyon and told us how it felt, so we don't all have to do it. I'm not speaking to first musical celebrity cuz there' motzart and all that shit. I'm talking Rock & Roll. He purposefuly tempted fate, ultimately paid the price. but his music spoke to the emotions involved in living on the edge....shared that alll with us. I don't believe this was his intent, but it's what happened.

it's a model that is followed to this day. The people who live on the edge(drug use, halucanigins(sp?), sexual escapaades,they roll th dice and put it all the line) and report from the front line action to us so we don't all have to and we can learn from them. Most make it thru, some don't. I salute the soldiers. I don't condone the behavior, but I respect it.

[img:$uid]http://i903.photobucket.com/albums/ac231/mjscarousal/janetandmichael-3.gif[/img:$uid]