Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yep, changed the game.

This little young rapper coiming up in the early 90s got what Prince couldn't get with Warner Brothers, control over all his music and got 80% of the money coming in.

Ohhh. Well since you put it like that...

Bout it Bout it!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Ohhh. Well since you put it like that...

Bout it Bout it!

Your posts causes such outrage on here

babybugz said:

TylerHippie said:

babybugz said:

Your posts causes such outrage on here

I have a God given talent

....to annoy!

Bum bum, CHISH!

smoothcriminal12 said:

TylerHippie said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

....to annoy!

Bum bum, CHISH!

If I'm annoying, why come in my thread? Makes no sense...

That was a joke....note the bum bum chish.

[Edited 7/30/11 18:33pm]

It depends on what you mean?

Musically, no one.

sosgemini said:

mistatee said:

No artist of the last decade comes even close to the impact Prince had.
#1 single

#1 album

#1 movies

.... all at the same time.

JLo actually did this a few years back. And Whitney did it with The Bodyguard era. Barbara Streisand did it and I am sure a handful of others.

Not discrediting your statement, just trying to remove the purple tinged glassed.

Janet did it too in 93', #1 single for 8 weeks, #1 album for 6 weeks at least, movie opening at #1

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TylerHippie said:

I'm 19, so I wouldn't really know what kind of impact Prince had in the 80's.

But from what I read and seen since becoming a fan back in 08', Prince was the man from 83-88.

And I have a way of making myself feel like I was apart of the 80's(pretty cool huh?). The reason I

say this is because I know how every Prince fan felt during his run in the 80's. I know I'm kind of

confusing you, and I apologize.

But since I can make myself feel like I was apart of the 80's, I'm going to say I think Lady Gaga has had the same impact as Prince. Fashion wise, and artistic wise. I'm not comparing them

musicially, I'm saying that their albums and songs has had the same impact.

People look at Gaga and Prince has real musicians. ALL OF THIS IS MY OPINION.

Can you name a artist who had the same impact as Prince?

[Edited 7/29/11 5:28am]

you posted on: 07/23/11 11:19pm

This Is Why Lady Gaga Is The Best Female Artist Of This Decade

you said: "I'm not going to argue anyone, this is my opinion. She's fucking talented, get over it.

If she would've played "Purple Rain" instead of Prince, you people would still hate her.

If you people down play this performance, your just a fucking hater."

my question is: are you still trying to prove or point, or should I ask "what is your point?"

I agree with pressure's statement.

Imo Prince did not need gimmicks to prove his artistry. yes he was/is flamboyant, but he never let is flamboyance supercede his talent and ability to bring some of the world's greatest musical artist together. seriously, there is no comparison between the two when it comes to true talent. one is super talented and worked hard from day one. the other (lady gaga) has some talent, but it is super hyped and dipped in saccarinized eye-candy by the music mogals. she should take off all that and raw meat and expose her true talent.

I would hardly ask for opinions of most of the Orgers on this board, as they see any music post-1994 as a bunch of crap. And while there has been a lot of crappy music released from that time, there has been some decent music put out as well, but you won't hear that from many of the Orgers here.

But since you're asking about which musicians of your generation has had as much impact on the music scene as Prince did with his, I would list the following:

Eminem

Kanye West

Beyonce

Outkast

Lady GaGa

All of them have sold millions of albums while also developing a huge following and critical acclaim.

I would sort of rank the following artists below the former, as they either had limited output, were great in their niche, or were more famous as celebrities than musical artists:

Justin Timberlake

Britney Spears

Christina Aguilera

50 Cent

Alicia Keys

Coldplay

And these artists were actually 90's artists which had a big impact on the last decade (2000's):

Jay-Z

Foo Fighters

Mariah Carey

Radiohead

728huey said:

I would hardly ask for opinions of most of the Orgers on this board, as they see any music post-1994 as a bunch of crap. And while there has been a lot of crappy music released from that time, there has been some decent music put out as well, but you won't hear that from many of the Orgers here.

But since you're asking about which musicians of your generation has had as much impact on the music scene as Prince did with his, I would list the following:

Eminem

Kanye West

Beyonce

Outkast

Lady GaGa

All of them have sold millions of albums while also developing a huge following and critical acclaim.

I would sort of rank the following artists below the former, as they either had limited output, were great in their niche, or were more famous as celebrities than musical artists:

Justin Timberlake

Britney Spears

Christina Aguilera

50 Cent

Alicia Keys

Coldplay

And these artists were actually 90's artists which had a big impact on the last decade (2000's):

Jay-Z

Foo Fighters

Mariah Carey

Radiohead

PERFECT! The middle list is eh to me but they are below the former. But i was thinking Kanye, Outkast and i don't really like GaGa but i can't deny her impact so her to. Not to mention Radiohead, Jay-Z, Mariah Carey etc... i would say Janelle has a lot of potential

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The problem isn't that there isn't talent out there. The problem is that whenver someone shows potential it's clamped down by very slow release rate and record companies making sure the artists stay within their own boxes. Their output just consists of a few good records, but it's not a string of classic after classic for at least a decade or so as was the case with Prince or others like Bowie. Very few artists really develop in any real way due to all the outside pressure.

I can think of a few exceptions to that rule, but they just sort of fade out from the public eye after a while. I have great respect for them for getting out of the mainstream game and doing more independent releases, but the price to pay is that they won't be around to influence the public perception of what popular is and what it can be like. In the end we've ended up with even definitions of what is "mainstream" and what is "alternative" or "underground".

novabrkr said:

The problem isn't that there isn't talent out there. The problem is that whenver someone shows potential it's clamped down by very slow release rate and record companies making sure the artists stay within their own boxes. Their output just consists of a few good records, but it's not a string of classic after classic for at least a decade or so as was the case with Prince or others like Bowie. Very few artists really develop in any real way due to all the outside pressure.

I can think of a few exceptions to that rule, but they just sort of fade out from the public eye after a while. I have great respect for them for getting out of the mainstream game and doing more independent releases, but the price to pay is that they won't be around to influence the public perception of what popular is and what it can be like. In the end we've ended up with even definitions of what is "mainstream" and what is "alternative" or "underground".

Yeah i mean i can point out tons of artists that could be in that vein

Alicia Keys

Norah Jones

Ryan Adams

(the last two to me are right on a prince level as far as putting out music and going all over with it) Ryan Adams is someone to me that easily was the decades best "artist" and still is doing better and better stuff.

The problem i have isnt talent its the constant "oh theres good music/artists, you just have to look, its in a hole under a chair down a mineshaft..." alright thats exaggerated, but this is why there is no growth, you cant grow when you are buried so to speak for the most part, if we are talking the impact of someone like PRINCE, lets face it, Prince was not an "underground hidden artist" maybe on the first record he was, but after that he was pretty much in the "light" of the media and getting play and growing album to album. Nowadays that isnt the case most of the time, someone as prolific as say Ryan Adams is never gonna get "play" or that exposure to be that "impace" that a Prince was, so its cool to point out Radiohead and others and it sounds good on paper, but those are no where near on a level of exposure to have that impact.

TylerHippie said:

Vict0r said:

The obvious answer to your question would be Michael Jackson and Madonna. But I'm 20 so I'm not qualified to answer your question as I didn't grow up in the 80s.

I said what artist from this generation, meaning 1999-2011.

There isn't one. And I have a different concept of the word "generation". As long as Prince is alive and producing music, I consider him a part of the current generation.

You know what I think it's a problem for some of us? We were SPOILED by acts like Michael, Prince, even going back to people like Elvis or the Beatles. A superstar of any magnitude larger than the average star is rare, always has been but the way the media plays it, you think they always existed until not but I never thought it was that huge lol

TylerHippie said:

I'm 19, so I wouldn't really know what kind of impact Prince had in the 80's.

But from what I read and seen since becoming a fan back in 08', Prince was the man from 83-88.

And I have a way of making myself feel like I was apart of the 80's(pretty cool huh?). The reason I

say this is because I know how every Prince fan felt during his run in the 80's. I know I'm kind of

confusing you, and I apologize.

But since I can make myself feel like I was apart of the 80's, I'm going to say I think Lady Gaga

has had the same impact as Prince. Fashion wise, and artistic wise. I'm not comparing them

musicially, I'm saying that their albums and songs has had the same impact.

People look at Gaga and Prince has real musicians. ALL OF THIS IS MY OPINION.

Can you name a artist who had the same impact as Prince?

[Edited 7/29/11 5:28am]

Like the case of David Bowie & Madonna having their share of clones (Lady Gaga being a clone of both legends!), Prince also has plenty of clones over the years.

TylerHippie said:

Vict0r said:

The obvious answer to your question would be Michael Jackson and Madonna. But I'm 20 so I'm not qualified to answer your question as I didn't grow up in the 80s.

I said what artist from this generation, meaning 1999-2011.

In the 2000's, who exactly are the Michael/Prince/Madonna of this specific decade?

Since Gaga's success came too late in the decade, she isn't the #1 answer for the Madonna-status because that would be Beyonce. For Michael-status, that would be Usher. For the Prince-status, that would be will.i.am (I hate myself for say THAT!!! )

The 1990's is more clear somewhat. For the Madonna-status, that would be either Madonna herself OR Mariah. For Michael-status, that would be Shania Twain. For Prince-status, it would be R.Kelly (and THIS isn't saying much TBDH! ).

Now the 1970's is too easy. For the Madonna-status, that would be Donna Summers. For the Michael-status, that would be Stevie Wonder. For the Prince-status, that would be David Bowie.

sosgemini said:

mistatee said:

No artist of the last decade comes even close to the impact Prince had.
#1 single

#1 album

#1 movies

.... all at the same time.

JLo actually did this a few years back. And Whitney did it with The Bodyguard era. Barbara Streisand did it and I am sure a handful of others.

Not discrediting your statement, just trying to remove the purple tinged glassed. ;-

You are very correct concerning Whitney! Even I knew that.

The Spice Girls also did it with Spiceworld (The Album), Spiceworld (The Movie), & Too Much (#1 UK single; not sure of ranking as a USA single).

I find people's desire to always wanna pass the baton and christen this latest hit maker the [insert icons name] of their generation to be incredibly callow. Like someone else said, for as long as Prince is still alive and making music, no one is going to be the next him. And certainly not fucking Lady Gaga, of all people.

If you want Prince, then listen to Prince.

If you want Madonna, then listen to Madonna.

If you want MJ, then listen to MJ.

Stop trying to recast them like they're fictional characters so that you can have your own version of the pop culture years they peaked in. Sorry you missed out on the era when they were the regular chart toppers, but Lady Gaga is no one's Prince; nor is she the modern day equivalent to what he was during his prime.

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chamber said:

I find people's desire to always wanna pass the baton and christen this latest hitmaker the [insert icons name] of their generation to be incredibly callow. Like someone else said, for as long as Prince is still alive and making music, no one is going to be the next him. And certainly not fucking Lady Gaga, of all people.

If you want Prince, then listen to Prince.

If you want Madonna, then listen to Madonna.

If you want MJ, then listen to MJ.

Stop trying to recast them like they're fictional characters so that you can have your own version of the pop culture years they peaked in. Sorry you missed out on it when they were the regular chart toppers, but Lady Gaga is no one's Prince.

[Edited 7/31/11 21:06pm]

Plus that's the reason the industry's full of shit because they're too busy trying to create another version of a legend that doesn't exist.

After reading Huey's pick of Eminem, I thought of this song and agree with him. He has had a big impact on modern music.

When I think of Prince, MJ, Madonna, why they are so special is because they brought something unique to the table, exceptionally rare music, fashion and dance, they were in a class by themselves. Just like perhaps Elvis or the Beatles did of their generation. Today I just don't see anyone unique,, they are more like this generations copy cat of the past. Lady Gaga to me is a modern day Madonna. and i actually like her. Nobody else strikes out even though I may enjoy their music. Janelle Monae has potential but the music industry is so weird now not sure she would reach as high as them. We'll see with her next album. just me two cents.

Graycap23 said:

Does NOT exist.

chamber said:

I find people's desire to always wanna pass the baton and christen this latest hit maker the [insert icons name] of their generation to be incredibly callow. Like someone else said, for as long as Prince is still alive and making music, no one is going to be the next him. And certainly not fucking Lady Gaga, of all people.

If you want Prince, then listen to Prince.

If you want Madonna, then listen to Madonna.

If you want MJ, then listen to MJ.

Stop trying to recast them like they're fictional characters so that you can have your own version of the pop culture years they peaked in. Sorry you missed out on the era when they were the regular chart toppers, but Lady Gaga is no one's Prince; nor is she the modern day equivalent to what he was during his prime.

[Edited 7/31/11 21:09pm]

I'll take it a step further by telling all music fans that were born AFTER 1985 that do not know any better to do the following:

1. The first step is to listen to all of the classic albums & watch all of the classic videos of the real Michael Jackson, Prince Roger Nelson, & Madonna Ciccone.

2. As soon as they become new fans of these legendary recording artists, the next step is to stop giving the clones & the wannabes of the 1990's, 2000's, & 2010's too much credit for something that the real Michael/Prince/Madonna has already done.

End of.

wonder505 said:

When I think of Prince, MJ, Madonna, why they are so special is because they brought something unique to the table, exceptionally rare music, fashion and dance, they were in a class by themselves. Just like perhaps Elvis or the Beatles did of their generation. Today I just don't see anyone unique,, they are more like this generations copy cat of the past. Lady Gaga to me is a modern day Madonna. and i actually like her. Nobody else strikes out even though I may enjoy their music.

Those are good points.

I think in recent years, the music industry has focused on, and developed, a model that ensures them the greatest revenue. And anything that falls outside that model never sees the light of day. Back in the 70's and before, the vibe was all about creativity, individuality, and self-expression. Today the vibe seems to be: Let's repeat exactly what we know has the greatest potential to go platinum in the first week of release. Then, they push it on the radio, and now iTunes, to ensure that it happens.

Timmy84 said:

(C) Cravens at the Prince board of the forum.

I like your hands Timmy.

You have a womans hands!!!!

The answer is obvious.

SquirrelMeat said:

Timmy84 said:

(C) Cravens at the Prince board of the forum.

I like your hands Timmy.

You have a womans hands!!!!

Very funny.