I'd say.... yes

TD3 said:

I'd say.... yes

Listening to your channel, I'd say, I believe you

TD3 said:

I'd say.... yes

And I sentiment what Harlepolis said.

Interesting question. I understand when people say that music is music and that people's tastes vary but I think for some people (myself included) the experience of music is a little deeper and serious.Which is why I think some people take thing's so personal when it comes to music. I'm talking about music, the experience, and not celebrity worship and the malarkey that comes with fame.

I've had this debate with my bf. We both love live music and we've been fortunate in the past two years to have seen tons of live shows (including 4 Prince shows). Our musical tastes, however, differ. He tends to like pop music exclusively. He says things like, "Kate Perry is fluff but it's like a piece of candy. Nothing to be taken seriously." But at the end of the day, that's really all he listens to. And too much candy, well you know how that goes. I've taken him to see some jazz gigs at the Catalina Club, punk rock gigs and obscure bands at Spaceland in Silver Lake, the LA Philharmonic doing Wagner's Parsifal (which he hated). I introduced him to, via live shows, to Ani Difranco, Brenden Perry, Prince, Elbow, Empire of the Sun, The Gossip, Eryka Badu, Fever Ray, Esperanza Spalding, Janelle Monet and many others. And although he said he enjoyed most of the shows I've never seen/heard him go out of his way to listen to any of those artists again. He tends to prefer dance music and he's introduced me to a lot of DJs and he introduced me to Dragonnette and Robyn, whom we both saw live and in Robyn's case I too became a fan after her seeing her live (To date I've seen Robyn four times). He also dragged me to see Kylie Mongoue at the Hollywood Bowl and trust me when I tell you I went with an open mind because I didn't mind some her stuff he played. BUT, the "live" show was a nightmare. Cheese Vegas Lounge Act Fest. I was so uncomfortable I was crawling out of my skin.

I also tend to get emotional when it comes to music. I can't play Joni Mitchell without getting a lump in my throat. And I welcome that emotion. To me that's what it's about. When we saw Prince together (in LA) I started bawling at some point during the show when I realized (again and again) what an amazing live performer Prince is and I think I cried too because it dawned on me how prevelant Prince music has been for me for the last 20 years. I don't know. Can't explain it. I just tend to take music more seriously. Don't really know.

There's no music genre that's not represented, even in some small part, in my music collection. I love, and listen, to ALL music. When I was younger, I wasn't crazy about Opera or Country. But today I have a significant amount of Country music in my collection, and even some Opera, along with a fair amount of Classical music. So I believe I can say, without a shadow of doubt, that I am truly a MUSIC fan. And I'm certain that people are often puzzled by the music they hear coming from my speakers, lol (...like music from the Middle East).

TheResistor said:

I also tend to get emotional when it comes to music.

See, that's why I don't consider myself a fan of music. I think some people have an ear to listen to music from an almost scientific side. Whereas I listen to it for the emotional response it creates. I could care less if someone is singing in tune or skillfully.

theAudience said:

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Or would you be more accurately classified as a GENRE fan?

This question came to me after reading something posted in paligap's The Lounge III : A Touch of Brazil (MPB) thread.

He was asked if he lived in Brazil. His answer was, "nah...I'm just a music fan." I thought about that.

Since we've met a few times and have had face-to-face conversations outside of this forum, I know that his answer was truly sincere.

So I thought i'd throw this question out there just to see if/how people would respond.
Remember, there is no right or wrong answer, only an honest one.

UPDATE:

Based on some of the intial responses, I think the question should be clarified a bit so we don't end up playing on semantics.

For example, if you were asked, "Are you a SPORTS fan?" and you answered "Yes" but as it turns out the only sport you ever watch/research/attend/etc is baseball. In reality, that makes you a BASEBALL fan, not really a SPORTS fan.



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I am a music fan, that happens to enjoy soul, funk, house, hip-hop and pop over all other genres.

And just for the record I'm also a sports fan, who happens to enjoy Football (NFL) over all other sports!!!

Also, I don't agree with the assumption that if you only like one or two or even three genres/artists you're not a music fan.

My 69 year old father has been jamming to Barry White since the '70s - he's probably listening to one of his songs as I type this . Barry White made some of the best music ever made in my opinion. And I'm talking about the music, not his lyrics. This man used an orchestra unlike any soul artist I have heard. The fact that my Dad likes this type of instrumentation or musicianship (violins, bass, piano etc all highlighted in Barry's music) qualifies him as a fan of music.

You could argue that my father has missed out of some other great artists/genres/music, but you can not say he's not a fan of music. That's just crazy.

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I'll put it like this, without music, my life would be too chaotic. Music calms the spirit down.

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sosgemini said:

TheResistor said:

I also tend to get emotional when it comes to music.

See, that's why I don't consider myself a fan of music. I think some people have an ear to listen to music from an almost scientific side. Whereas I listen to it for the emotional response it creates. I could care less if someone is singing in tune or skillfully.

vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

Honest Andy. Love ya kid.

I knew you'd get a jab or two in.



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Definitely a "genre-ist" here, but I've always made the distiction between music that I love & the other stuff that I merely respect or appreciate.

I can respect MANY musical forms, but only my fave genres really become a part of me.

sosgemini said:

TheResistor said:

I also tend to get emotional when it comes to music.

See, that's why I don't consider myself a fan of music. I think some people have an ear to listen to music from an almost scientific side. Whereas I listen to it for the emotional response it creates. I could care less if someone is singing in tune or skillfully.

That's really the ultimate point for a lot of people--- it either moves you or it doesn't.

I remember Pat Metheny saying something to this extent , that at the end of the day people love certain music because of the way it speaks to them, the way it makes them feel--and that has nothing to do with how much technique or ability the artist has, or doesn't have.

Personally, I grew up exposed to a wide variety of music--so yeah, I'm definitely a music fan....but it still comes down to what moves me and what doesn't. Beyond that, it could be any sound, from any genre. Now I admit that generally, I don't like a lot of current radio, or these bands that show up on late night TV, armed with "three chords and the truth"...

But on the other hand, sometimes those three chords may hit you just right..........

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I'd say I am more of a music fan, but I find that to be a bit frustrating in a sense. It make my music collection really varied (which I enjoy), but not quite as cohesive as I would want (which annoys me).

I am working on narrowing my interests more rather than just rolling with whatever I'm feeling at the moment to have less "what was I thinking?!" moments when I go through my stuff.

HipHop and Funk are my forte.

Dashes of rock/blues/pop/etc are thrown in on occasion.

I personally give more respect to those who are knowledgeable in a particular category, as opposed to merely dabbling in many different styles.

Nope - not a music fan.

I can mostly recognize and appreciate when music is played well, but for me to be a fan I have to have that emotional connection. So that narrows my preferences to rock, funk, blues musically or something with lyrics that I connect with on a personal level.

Great thread idea Aud....

Yes I LOVE all kinds of music. One thing I've always dug about the org. is that everyone's musical

tastes are so diverse and there's always something new to discover.

I always get a kick out of people that say "Yeah I like all kinds of music..I like Oasis, Van Halen,

Nine Inch Nails, The Beatles"...or "I like Jay-Z, Mary J, and some of my mom's old school R&B". I want to say to them "That is NOT all kinds of music!!!"

One of the things that I hate about today's popular music is that it lacks diversity. I agree with the

other poster..It's the same drum loop, synth patch, same voice modulator, same subject, etc.

I used to love the artists back in the day that could stretch out and shift gears and give you a

variety of music in 45 to 50 minutes. And still keep their sound.

sosgemini said:

TheResistor said:

I also tend to get emotional when it comes to music.

See, that's why I don't consider myself a fan of music. I think some people have an ear to listen to music from an almost scientific side. Whereas I listen to it for the emotional response it creates. I could care less if someone is singing in tune or skillfully.

That scares me..............

Yeah, I am truly a MUSIC fan...

I was exposed to a wide variety of music from a young age and I still appreciate lots of different sounds.

My first love will always be funk and soul but my collection includes gospel, classic rock, bhangra, classical, new age and beyond. The only genres I'm not too keen on are most opera singers, most hip hop artists, and any type of metal music.

Graycap23 said:

sosgemini said:

See, that's why I don't consider myself a fan of music. I think some people have an ear to listen to music from an almost scientific side. Whereas I listen to it for the emotional response it creates. I could care less if someone is singing in tune or skillfully.

That scares me..............

The beauty of humanity is our individuality.

sosgemini said:

Graycap23 said:

That scares me..............

The beauty of humanity is our individuality.

Yeah what scares me more is people thinking the same lol just because people aren't fans of music doesn't mean they don't feel it lol

60-40 genre fan/ music fan.

PDogz said:

There's no music genre that's not represented, even in some small part, in my music collection. I love, and listen, to ALL music. When I was younger, I wasn't crazy about Opera or Country. But today I have a significant amount of Country music in my collection, and even some Opera, along with a fair amount of Classical music. So I believe I can say, without a shadow of doubt, that I am truly a MUSIC fan. And I'm certain that people are often puzzled by the music they hear coming from my speakers, lol (...like music from the Middle East).

I never had any country in my collection until recent years also. A few years ago, after I brought a gay hillbilly home...oh, I'm not lying honey, this motherfucker come straight outta Greenville, Mississippi in the Delta and was a catfish farmer of all things .....I'm sitting there playing my seduction slow jams, Heatwave, Switch, The Stylistics, Blue Magic, etc. and I tell him if there's anything he'd like to hear, just let me know and he says country and I'm like .

That motherfucker gave the best night of sexy hot fun I've EVER had, oh he was a hairy Tom Selleck type hairy fucker, and when I got the internet, I downloaded LOADS of country that I remember when I was growing up. If I ever run into another one like him, I'm gonna be prepared this time. We'll be a throwing a hoopin' and a'hollerin' wang dang doodle all night long listening to John Anderson with his dick....just a'swanginnnnn'.

theAudience said:

vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

Honest Andy. Love ya kid.

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Oh, you know I live for it.

Definitely not a "genre" fan. I like certain artists, and dig up everything I can by them. Listening to music by genre is very painful to me. There are only a handful of artists in any given genre I find appealing.

To me it's about the "minds" behind the music, not the category someone places the artist in.

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vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

There are some bad-ass operas Andy, don't limit yourself. That music has stood the test of time for a reason.

V10LETBLUES said:

vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

There are some bad-ass operas Andy, don't limit yourself. That music has stood the test of time for a reason.

I don't have a problem with opera. They are THE most talented vocalists on the face on the planet, I'll give 'em that. And they do have actual music behind them even if I personally consider it dull. I do give opera and any other form of music that I may not be into respect because they are talented genres with talented singers and musicians. Well, I respect all forms of music except shit hop because that is the genre that was a threat to and killed R&B and funk, the other genres weren't a threat and didn't affect it at all.

However, since opera and classical music is still considered by a huge amount of mainstream society as "dorky" and "nerd" music, I'm more than happy to use it as a comparison tempowise to shit hop just to rattle some thug cages.

Timmy84 said:

I'll put it like this, without music, my life would be too chaotic. Music calms the spirit down.

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It helps to set my mood, as well as change it. I'm a combination of genre/era type listener. My foundation is soul, funk, disco, gospel, and pop/folk sound of the 70's. It expanded from there in middle and high school to new wave, freestyle, smooth jazz, and classic rock. I'm still discovering new music, but mostly from previous eras. I can't say that I listen to all types of music because I know I haven't heard every subgenre. The music from my childhood leads to a strong reaction or memory, so I hold the music of then much closer to me. Wherever I go, the Ipod is with me.

vainandy said:

PDogz said:

There's no music genre that's not represented, even in some small part, in my music collection. I love, and listen, to ALL music. When I was younger, I wasn't crazy about Opera or Country. But today I have a significant amount of Country music in my collection, and even some Opera, along with a fair amount of Classical music. So I believe I can say, without a shadow of doubt, that I am truly a MUSIC fan. And I'm certain that people are often puzzled by the music they hear coming from my speakers, lol (...like music from the Middle East).

I never had any country in my collection until recent years also. A few years ago, after I brought a gay hillbilly home...oh, I'm not lying honey, this motherfucker come straight outta Greenville, Mississippi in the Delta and was a catfish farmer of all things .....I'm sitting there playing my seduction slow jams, Heatwave, Switch, The Stylistics, Blue Magic, etc. and I tell him if there's anything he'd like to hear, just let me know and he says country and I'm like .

That motherfucker gave the best night of sexy hot fun I've EVER had, oh he was a hairy Tom Selleck type hairy fucker, and when I got the internet, I downloaded LOADS of country that I remember when I was growing up. If I ever run into another one like him, I'm gonna be prepared this time. We'll be a throwing a hoopin' and a'hollerin' wang dang doodle all night long listening to John Anderson with his dick....just a'swanginnnnn'.

Learning to appreciate music outside your usual genres is a lot easier when someone you're interested in helps to introduce you to it.

When I lived in North Carolina in the late 70's, I learned to appreciate Blue Grass & Country music by hanging out with co-workers at the local Honky-tonks. I mean, they had sawdust on the floor, live bands, and the whole-9. Them cowboys would be jumping up on tables, playing them fiddles, and stompin' them boots! I can honestly say, I had good times, despite the fact I'd be the only Black guy in the whole joint, lol.

One time, I went to this one Honky-tonk to meet some friends after work. Well, when I got there, my friends hadn't arrived yet. So here I was, this ONE Black guy, in this bar surrounded by about a hundred rednecks, lol. There was a group over by the bar that just kept eye-balling me for like 20 minutes or so. Then next thing I know, one of them started walking over toward me. I was thinking "Oh boy, here we go!".

Then he walked up to me and said "Hey, me and my buddies noticed you over here standing by yourself, why not come over here with us and have a beer!" I was like "Aw man, thanks a lot! But I'm waiting for some friends, and they should be here shortly". Then he was like "Well alright, but if they're not here soon, just come on over and party with us!". At that point, I was SOLD on the whole Honky-tonk idea. About 20 more minutes later, my work-buddies showed up, and I went on to have one of the best times of my life! Boots, fiddles & all!

Just proves that you can't judge books by their cover. Ever since then, I've always challenged myself in situations like that, and I've learned a lot about the world.