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Music: Non-Prince Poll Question: Are you truly a MUSIC fan?

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Or would you be more accurately classified as a GENRE fan?

This question came to me after reading something posted in paligap's The Lounge III : A Touch of Brazil (MPB) thread.

He was asked if he lived in Brazil. His answer was, "nah...I'm just a music fan." I thought about that.

Since we've met a few times and have had face-to-face conversations outside of this forum, I know that his answer was truly sincere.

So I thought i'd throw this question out there just to see if/how people would respond.
Remember, there is no right or wrong answer, only an honest one.


UPDATE:

Based on some of the intial responses, I think the question should be clarified a bit so we don't end up playing on semantics.

For example, if you were asked, "Are you a SPORTS fan?" and you answered "Yes" but as it turns out the only sport you ever watch/research/attend/etc is baseball. In reality, that makes you a BASEBALL fan, not really a SPORTS fan.



Music for adventurous listeners

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[Edited 7/29/11 13:47pm]

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Reply #1 posted 07/29/11 12:35am

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Everybody is a music fan imo.

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Reply #2 posted 07/29/11 12:59am

novabrkr

Not having much money as a teenager but having a great library system in my country made me a music fan.

The internet offers the same possibility for getting exposed to all kinds of different music these days, but it's sort of sad that most people just don't care in any case. They'll listen to something for a few seconds and decide it's not for them because it doesn't have enough bass or something like that.

My tastes have swung back quite strongly to the classic soul / funk / jazz / rock of the 1960s, 1970s and the early 1980s. If I listen to any newer music it's usually of the electronic or experimental kind (or some kind of retro stuff). I also like some brainless pop stuff as I find that type of material easier to listen to when I'm doing something at my home.

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Reply #3 posted 07/29/11 2:03am

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The thing about this question is, even if someone is the most rigid, close-minded person in their musical tastes and only sticks to one or two genres, the point is, it's still music. So of course they're a music fan. Everybody loves music, even if they don't like every genre. Music is a pretty universal thing.

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Reply #4 posted 07/29/11 2:32am

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armpit said:

The thing about this question is, even if someone is the most rigid, close-minded person in their musical tastes and only sticks to one or two genres, the point is, it's still music. So of course they're a music fan. Everybody loves music, even if they don't like every genre. Music is a pretty universal thing.

I like this answer.

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Reply #5 posted 07/29/11 3:43am

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leecappella said:

armpit said:

The thing about this question is, even if someone is the most rigid, close-minded person in their musical tastes and only sticks to one or two genres, the point is, it's still music. So of course they're a music fan. Everybody loves music, even if they don't like every genre. Music is a pretty universal thing.

I like this answer.

Me too. nod


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Reply #6 posted 07/29/11 4:13am

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Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

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Reply #7 posted 07/29/11 4:20am

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vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

Dude, I think your comments about the tempo of today's music were valid five years ago, but not anymore. The tempos have speeded up a lot in the last two years. That's my impression anyway. The music is more techno now than hip-hop, even when they're rapping on it.

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Reply #8 posted 07/29/11 6:23am

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vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

I swear, the tempo of most funk music is around 95 or 100, while music today is 120-140. lol

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Reply #9 posted 07/29/11 6:39am

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You just have to look at the front page of non prince forum to realise that the vast majority of people on here have a very narrow musical pallet.

Its about 90% R&B tinged and 95% U.S. based.

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Reply #10 posted 07/29/11 6:45am

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I'll take "good" music from any style and or source on Earth.

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Reply #11 posted 07/29/11 6:53am

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armpit said:

The thing about this question is, even if someone is the most rigid, close-minded person in their musical tastes and only sticks to one or two genres, the point is, it's still music. So of course they're a music fan. Everybody loves music, even if they don't like every genre. Music is a pretty universal thing.

I don't agree. I think some people *think* they are music fans but are subconsciously using that as a conduit for their celebrity obsession. lol

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Reply #12 posted 07/29/11 6:55am

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midnightmover said:

vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

Dude, I think your comments about the tempo of today's music were valid five years ago, but not anymore. The tempos have speeded up a lot in the last two years. That's my impression anyway. The music is more techno now than hip-hop, even when they're rapping on it.

Techno as in that auto tuned shit that's all over the place now. Oh, that shit's got to go too. Sounds like a pop version of trance.

As for today's music and knowing specifics about it, I don't know any because I took all stations that play current music off my dial years ago and wish I could escape hearing any hint of it from the television, passing cars, and neighbors. But I know I could turn to an R&B station that plays current music right now and I can promise you, it would be something slow. As for the pop stations, I could care less. I didn't give a damn about pop back in the day so I sure as hell don't give a damn about it now. And as for the passing cars and music coming from neighbors or from the streets, or anywhere else where you just could not escape hearing today's music, I haven't heard anything past an opera tempo unless I went to a white gay club and then it's trance shit that's actually too fast to dance to.

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Reply #13 posted 07/29/11 7:00am

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smoothcriminal12 said:

vainandy said:

Both. I listen to many types of music but funk is what I listen to 80% of the time so you could say that I'm a genre fan. However, whatever genre I'm listening to, the music is what catches my ear before anything else. The feel of the bass and the drums and a good groove. The way someone sings comes second, and the actual lyrics come last. But a person can be an excellent singer or even have excellent lyrics but if the music behind it sounds like shit, then the song isn't even worth listening to because it sounds horrible. That's why today's music is a bunch of bullshit. No good music behind it. Just a damn weak ass drum machine that barely taps at a slow ass opera tempo. Hell, that ain't music, no matter how good the singing may be.

I swear, the tempo of most funk music is around 95 or 100, while music today is 120-140. lol

Must be that trance influenced stuff which is tolerable, I mean, I can stand to be in the same room with it, but it sure as hell ain't enjoyable....unless you're a extra hyper rabbit hopping around on a pogo stick high on speed. You sure as hell can't shake no ass to it, that's for damn sure. lol

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Reply #14 posted 07/29/11 7:08am

JoeTyler

Yes

Music, painting and literature absorb my time, and some of my money... lol cool

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Reply #15 posted 07/29/11 7:18am

Harlepolis

Honestly and on a larger scope? I'd say that I'm still a genre fan.

I think being a "music fan" requires a dose of growth, maturity and patience that I haven't achieved yet. Don't get me wrong, I'm not selling myself short in this post, I still dig many types of music that I haven't been exposed to or knew previously but wasn't interested into in the past, but my attention span gets focused on limited types of music, at least for the time being.

The upside of having mood swings though is, I'll eventually break the routine and listen to other stuff.

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Reply #16 posted 07/29/11 7:20am

Tortilla

Yes.

All types of music, although there are genres that I know very little about (country, blues, heavy metal, world). Not to say that I reject these styles. I simply don't have enough knowledge as far as the history of them. It's always helpful receiving recommendations and that's why this forum can be really great at times.

I've only been a member for over a year, but have been reading it for a long time (5+). It's changed quite a bit, but there are still informative and thoughtful threads to keep me engaged and coming back for more. smile

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Reply #17 posted 07/29/11 7:31am

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Music fan here, on my days off of work I pretty much spend hours searching the internet looking for new music to enjoy.

I can enjoy music from just about any genre, I can even enjoy the occasional country song. As long as I think a song is genuinely good I can enjoy it.

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Reply #18 posted 07/29/11 7:34am

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SquirrelMeat said:

You just have to look at the front page of non prince forum to realise that the vast majority of people on here have a very narrow musical pallet.

Its about 90% R&B tinged and 95% U.S. based.

Yeah. Although I think it's because people who are mainly into that sort of stuff tend to just start more threads in general. A lot of it is just celebrity gossip, so it's really not even about the music. The same sort of thing has happened on many other music or music related forums.

I would say that it was 90% R&B tinged and 95% U.S. based maybe 2-3 years ago, but more recently this subforum has gotten a bit more diverse again. Thanks to Micky, Timmy and other guys starting more threads on music that is, well, not shit.

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Reply #19 posted 07/29/11 7:54am

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Music Fan here. biggrin

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Reply #20 posted 07/29/11 8:13am

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No....probably not. There are many genres of music that I just won't listen to sad Not an adventurous listener for sure.

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Reply #21 posted 07/29/11 9:17am

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Graycap23 said:

I'll take "good" music from any style and or source on Earth.

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Reply #22 posted 07/29/11 9:18am

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Thanks for all the answers so far.

Based on some of the intial responses, I think the question should be clarified a bit so we don't end up playing on semantics.

For example, if you were asked, "Are you a SPORTS fan?" and you answered "Yes" but as it turns out the only sport you ever watch/research/attend/etc is baseball. In reality, that makes you a BASEBALL fan, not really a SPORTS fan.

Does that make sense? wink


Music for adventurous listeners

tA

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Reply #23 posted 07/29/11 9:28am

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It makes a lot of sense. In fact I had this kind of argument with a coworker because she claims to be a baseball fan but knows nothing of the game, she just claims to like the Yankees.

Having said that, I still consider myself a music fan because I will listen to different forms of music and maybe like a few things from the genres. I might prefer one kind more than others, but I still enjoy being exposed to various types of music. And live music makes it even better. music


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Reply #24 posted 07/29/11 9:30am

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theAudience said:

Thanks for all the answers so far.

Based on some of the intial responses, I think the question should be clarified a bit so we don't end up playing on semantics.

For example, if you were asked, "Are you a SPORTS fan?" and you answered "Yes" but as it turns out the only sport you ever watch/research/attend/etc is baseball. In reality, that makes you a BASEBALL fan, not really a SPORTS fan.

Does that make sense? wink


Music for adventurous listeners

tA

peace Tribal Records

I'm gonna say no then. What I am is a fan of using music as a soundtrack to my life. I think I am more a movie fan than a music fan.

Or so I think...today. lol

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Reply #25 posted 07/29/11 9:36am

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armpit said:

The thing about this question is, even if someone is the most rigid, close-minded person in their musical tastes and only sticks to one or two genres, the point is, it's still music. So of course they're a music fan. Everybody loves music, even if they don't like every genre. Music is a pretty universal thing.

Generally speaking, no. There are lots of people (perhaps not in this forum) that music is just something to have on in the background. It's not important to them and they are satisfied with what is playing softly on their top 40 or AC radio station.

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Reply #26 posted 07/29/11 9:44am

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To answer the question in relation to me, I'd say I was much more of a music fan when I was younger. Now as I get older, I find myself narrowing my tastes and weeding out genres on the fringe of what I liked like hip hop and death metal for example--although a song or movie could come along and temporarily reignite my interest in one of those. However, I don't seek out the new stuff by artists of that ilk anymore.

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armpit said:

Everybody is a music fan imo.

One might think so.

However, i've run into folks who could care less or what they do occasionally listen to is so narrow, they would definitely be classified as a fan of a specific genre.

Music for adventurous listeners

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Reply #28 posted 07/29/11 1:16pm

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novabrkr said:

Not having much money as a teenager but having a great library system in my country made me a music fan.

The internet offers the same possibility for getting exposed to all kinds of different music these days, but it's sort of sad that most people just don't care in any case. They'll listen to something for a few seconds and decide it's not for them because it doesn't have enough bass or something like that.

My tastes have swung back quite strongly to the classic soul / funk / jazz / rock of the 1960s, 1970s and the early 1980s. If I listen to any newer music it's usually of the electronic or experimental kind (or some kind of retro stuff). I also like some brainless pop stuff as I find that type of material easier to listen to when I'm doing something at my home.

Nice points.

Music for adventurous listeners

tA

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Reply #29 posted 07/29/11 1:40pm

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armpit said:

The thing about this question is, even if someone is the most rigid, close-minded person in their musical tastes and only sticks to one or two genres, the point is, it's still music. So of course they're a music fan. Everybody loves music, even if they don't like every genre. Music is a pretty universal thing.

Pretty much what I was gonna say (a bit differently but still lol).

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