but in her case she wasnt a wealthy person all her life, shit we dont even know how wealthy she was at any point. But i think we forget that WEALTH and sudden fame bring on new problems that we dont even think about because we dont have it like they do. They also are enhanced when in the light, one of my favorite artists Rick Springfield has battled depression his whole life, tried to hang himself when he was a teenager because he felt he was ugly and left out, struggled his whole life, the money he has now and the great wife and family have not taken away those issues he still has them, in fact when he was hitting with his fame thats when it got worse, because now he was still the Ugly kid from back then, that suddenly was in the light. These things exist with many artists, and im not saying they dont exist for the average joe, of course they do, but we tend to forget that celebs are average joes, money changes nothing. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Yeah i think its very sad when death is turned into an event also, or a competition on responses. This is tragic, just like the bombings in Norway and the murder of the child in brooklyn etc.... I mean tragedy is tragedy regardless of how it comes and also the size of your bank account. And also i feel that blowing off problems because people have some stardom is even more insane, i think we get wrapped up all in the stars and forget, their people, good days and bad days and days when they cant handle it anymore, just like joe that works at the corner store, once we get back to realizing that we are all the same than maybe we can erase the list of tragedies "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Hey, no denying it's fascinating, most of the human race live lives where they have to live under a lot of people's thumbs and many of them are miserable as hell because of it. I can't believe these people are less happy than most of us. It's fascinating. | |
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Thanks for the notification since I don't do FB! The tender rendition got me all choked up again... [Edited 7/23/11 23:00pm] | |
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K I have to ask in that last pic, why is everyone in suits and ties??? Is that a UK thing? The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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Poor Winehouse she was a sweetheart.
She real buy her heart and soul in her music and her voice gave millions life.
i was just watching her youtube videos two days ago
I always noctice what how sad she looked on stage. Even when she was healthy she had no joy in her eyes.
I believe she was battling some demons way before she was famous.
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Im really taking back by the "wasted talent" comments.
That is so fucking selfish. Only thing "wasted" was peoples compassion.
Its was "Wasted" appreciation for people in pain It was "Wasted" love that could have be given to all the people suffering.
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As much as I am sadden about her passing, it is a definite waste of life and unparalleled talent.
From this article 3 years ago: http://www.contactmusic.c...ad_1072188
Amy clearly couldn't see it coming. Even though we don't know the cause of death right now, we can't pretend that substance abuse, self-destructive and bad decisions didn't cause her fateful demise. I was one of the few who hoped for a recovery and comeback following Back To Black, but it didn't work out. I loved Amy's music and talent, but her lifestyle and celebrity wasn't something that I dwelled on and joked about like many people. Can't say I'm surprised, but I'm deeply saddened. Wow. How can people be so blind? At the end of the day, we lost someone and we all know the reason why we lost her...*I'm just balling tears right now from the insecurity and naivety on this thread.* Sad that people can't admit the truth. We don't know what trials and tribulations that were implemented on her short life, but it was filled with its highs and lows. Sadly, the lows outweighed the highs and no one could save her. I understand about the struggles of substance abuse and staying sober, but individuals like Amy needed something more than just rehab. They needed deep intervention. Drugs and other substances have destroyed every person that I ever admired, famous or not. The sad part is that some people just don't know what they want or believe that what they submerge themselves into is the only way to happiness. This isn't about fame, wealth or celebrity. This is about reality. People just have a hard time seperating the celebrity and talent from a person and that is the sad part about this. She was like any regular person going through the motions and never seeking the benefit of recovery. So, like I said, it is a waste of life when one can never fully reap the benefit of rehabilition and recovery and their gift is lost.
Sorry for the long post, but I had to express myself fully. May she rest peacefully wherever she is now. R.I.P. Amy! [Edited 7/24/11 1:28am] Check me out and add me on:
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Beautiful, very beautiful, respectful way to pay tribute to her. Very sweet.
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I still don't understand how her life equates to a "waste"
After all you just said its clear that her music and life somehow touch you so how is that wasteful?
Just because fans couldn't get one more album out of her or two more concerts makes Amy's life a wasted one?? I don't get it because you're saying exactly what I'm implying.
Regardless of how she lived her life no one and i mean no one put on this earth life's a "waste" in the grand scheme of things.
People should grateful that we got to hear such a lovely voice.
To say her talent was "wasted" is selfish..Behind that talent was a human being. Her Life regardless of the talent still mattered.
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beyond sad, bless her darling heart, i really hate to think she might have died on her own & off her head. she never got over blake. rest in peace amy X
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What a shameful waste, her best work may have been left in her. The fault though remains that she was a drug user, and she revelled in it. Where were the people to try and turn her life around. She died tto young. When will people ever learn that hard drugs (Excluding caffeine) are not good for you. This womans life was a tragedy. Got some kind of love for you, and I don't even know your name | |
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Who are we to say that ?
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You missed my entire point. It is clear that Amy was a human being. She hurt like us, she survived like us, laughed like us and I'm sure she cried like us. The point that I'm trying to make is that everyone's struggles and troubles are different. We all have them, but they are different. She took substances, just like many, because it allowed her to get rid of her pains, whether they were physical or spiritual. We have no clear idea of what her demons were: childhood issues, family, fame, a will to be the biggest star, her ill relationships, a fascination with death and broken emotion, the pressures of show business... There are many possibilities and combinations. Two things are just sure: she looked both happy and sad when on stage, and she never found a strong answer to her pains and fears that would have allowed her to stay clear of drugs longer. I'm for certain that substance abusers have a reason for why they succumb to substances. The devastating part is that they can't face them spot on and their talent, gift or calling is corrupted. You make the point that her life mattered regardless of talent and that is true. However, why couldn't she see the error of her ways? Most importantly, why didn't she grasp it head on? Superstardom and fame is something we look at in rose-colored glasses. It's clear that she was emotionally broken for a while, but no one could see behind it while she was here. I'm not pointing blame on Amy or anyone because sadly she is not here, but while she was here, the pain she had created a downward spiral for her life and career. We all go through that, but her downward spiral led to her passing. Check me out and add me on:
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^ what you just said is irrelavant to what im taking about.
How is a talent wasted is what i want to know? The girl did not owe you anything.
She didnt owe you the luxury of another ablum. She didnt owe you the luxury of another concert.
Her personal demons have nothing to do with you being heartbroken over the fact she cant make music anymore.
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Wow.
I feel sorry for her hardcore fans who are seeing photos like that one. That's really difficult to handle. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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Reportedly, Amy told a newspaper at one time that she had been diagnosed with manic-depression but refused to take any prescribed medications for it. "Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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sad news, she was a very talented lady. Thank you for posing the link to this Serge->
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I hate the sense of inevitability about this. It's bugging me. | |
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I'm not fighting with you either. She didn't owe anyone (including me) anything and I'm not implying that she did. It's clear that her talent was what kept her sane and made her vibrant, but I'm not implying that she had to make music to please people. Her life was the most important thing she should've been focused on more, but it's clear she had problems keeping her life afloat. Where are do you get off saying that she owed somebody another album or concert? That's just totally off-based...
On another note, it is sad how what should have been a respectful, memorial thread turns into a drug use and moral issues debate. I myself apologize to this org for being one of its party-poopers! Can we please drop the preaching on life and how it should be lived once and for all? This thread should be here for paying respect not for teaching what's right or wrong. Let's remember the good times, bid Amy a farwell and peaceful departure, and showcase her impactful body of work....R.I.P. Amy!
Beautiful! [Edited 7/24/11 3:07am] [Edited 7/24/11 3:08am] [Edited 7/24/11 3:09am] Check me out and add me on:
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Just let Amy rest. I swear... let the music play as Barry White (RIP) would say. God damn. | |
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My cherished Amy memory:
A holiday by car with once love one. We spend hours driving, listening to both BtoB and Frank. I teared up oftentimes, listening to her lyrics and realizing the agonizing, hopeless pain. She sung about her addictions in all honesty. Defying, needing, loving and denying her addictions.
The person I was with listened to the songs, apreciating them, however, not relating at all. Because he was in denial about his own addictions. As he should. That is what a true addiction is. It makes the addictied person defy and warrant off anybody who wants to come between the addicted and the substance of addiction. I know he loved me. However, in the end he allways loved and protected his addictions more.
It's horrible to love a person who is addicted. There is no way anybody can help. That is the saddest thing about it. A person who is suffering so much, in dire need of so much love and help, only not able to receive it and handle it when it is offered. Heartbreaking. True suffering.
I will listen to her music for ever. Allways being sad that she wasn't able to overcome her own struggles. My heart aches when I think about the people who think they are in a position to judge her or the people around her. I'ts been a very painful struggle, she suffered a lot. That was very clear. And there wasn't anybody who could save her from her suffering, and she wasn't able to do it herself. She truly believed the alcohol and drugs relieved her pain. That's what they make you believe. That is how those substances work.
Sending my love to all involved. Listening to Amy's music and "I love a man who's loving whiskey".
Wish you all well and hope you will find a way to relieve your suffering without alcohol, drugs or other harmfull substances.
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I apologize if I said anything to hurt anybody by speculating about her cause of death. Yesterday, I heard that an overdose was highly suspected. Maybe the info was wrong?
My larger point was we all have demons.
I just think to say her life was wasted because she struggled with a drug addiction is not completely fair. We really don't know her circumstances.
She did a lot with her life. She contributed to the world. But clean or not, she apparently already had health issues relating to that addiction which could have killed her, too. Maybe she had a heart attack?
One of my cousins was a former drug addict, and died relatively young in his early 40's of a heart attack. He was clean for years before his death except he was a heavy smoker. He could never kick smoking but gave up everything else even drinking.
If she had problems with depression--I have an acquaintance whose wife suffered from depression. She was a very gifted high school teacher. One day he came home only to find her dead in their garage due to carbon monoxide poisoning. There were no signs she was about ready to take her own life. She just did. She was in her early 30's. She fought a good battle--enough to where she had moments of success and happiness. But she didn't make it.
So I agree, I just think it's life. I don't think it's fair to say, if she had only been strong enough...if she had only had this or that somebody or something could have saved her. Maybe yes, maybe no.. It's hard to say.
Unfortunately, some really neat people just don't make it. Considering her problems, at least Amy Winehouse made it to 27. She was strong enough to make it that long. She was strong enough to have her moments. And all the world stopped to listen...
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SOME of these muthafuckas need to shut the hell up considering what THEIR asses were doing at 27, and 37, and some of them right now. It's just a luck of the draw that they didn't end up the SAME way. People and their opportunistic self-righteousness and judgment are a fucking trip. [Edited 7/24/11 7:20am] | |||||||||
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Manic depression? In that case, I really wish she did treat herself I myself am bipolar and I was refusing meds until I had to admit when I was on edge that I needed help. It was hard hearing I may need my meds for life but I've accepted it. I'm not completely managing but it is keeping me calmer than before and that's better than nothing. It's too bad she didn't take it, though I understand why too in a way cause when I was really feeling those things I was writing so much and didn't want to stop it or have those things go away cause it was making me feel better about myself for a few minutes, but it's really not worth your health. | |
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Why, oh, why must people keep comparing this with what's happened in Norway? I've read that so many bloody times now (most recently in Tommy Lee's tweet, above), and it's such a stupid and smug point to make. Must we choose? Are we not allowed to be compassionate about both? [Edited 7/24/11 7:32am] "Not everything that is faced can be changed; but nothing can be changed until it is faced." - James Baldwin | |
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