You can’t blame the artists too much because they just look at it as a tribute to Michael they might not know and not deep in the family drama like others.

carinemjj said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Yep. Smh =

Thanks (to you both)

You enlighted me now, I've been wondering this for too long now lol...

babybugz said:

You can’t blame the artists too much because they just look at it as a tribute to Michael they might not know and not deep in the family drama like others.

Yeah I know but still fuck that family.

Interesting...

This is what you get when you enter the registration form and get to the refund question page..

(doesn't come from me, there's no way I'd be registering to this....)

The Concert is the Jackson Family's official tribute concert for Michael.

Michael's mother Mrs Katherine Jackson has agreed to attend the Concert with as many of Michael's children as are available. The guest artistes who have contracted with the Promoter to appear at the Concert are listed on the Website.

The Promoter does not guarantee the final line-up and cannot be responsible for the non-appearance at the Concert of any contracted artiste. If 50% or more of the number of contracted artists attend and perform the Concert will take place and no refunds will be offered.

http://home.michaelforeve...tandc.html

carinemjj said:

Interesting...

This is what you get when you enter the registration form and get to the refund question page..

(doesn't come from me, there's no way I'd be registering to this....)

The Concert is the Jackson Family's official tribute concert for Michael.

Michael's mother Mrs Katherine Jackson has agreed to attend the Concert with as many of Michael's children as are available. The guest artistes who have contracted with the Promoter to appear at the Concert are listed on the Website.

The Promoter does not guarantee the final line-up and cannot be responsible for the non-appearance at the Concert of any contracted artiste. If 50% or more of the number of contracted artists attend and perform the Concert will take place and no refunds will be offered.

http://home.michaelforeve...tandc.html

Now that's some shady BS right there but then again I really shouldnt be surprised.

Yes that's true, and I dont blame them too much. Its just that when you have Michael's own mother sending out invites to other artists practically begging them to be a part of this tribute (see story: http://www.tmz.com/2011/0...-lo-jay-z/)

One would think that naturally, Janet would be a part of this concert because she's Michael's sister who's a huge superstar in her own right. Having her be a part would definitely be a big draw to concert. But either she wasnt asked to contribute or she straight up refused to be a part (and I dont blame her). If his own sister doesnt want to be a part of this tribute--even if she were to sing one song or give a brief speech about her brother, that should be a big red flag to anyone who decides to perform for this concert. The family is divided on this, and if I were a performer who'd been asked to be a part, I would not because of all the chaos and how poorly organized this whole thing is. Just sayin.

I always said that Janet has NEVER trusted her family. Yeah she said she sees them all the time, yeah I know "cool aunt" and she's there for family gatherings but she only wants them as a FAMILY, not in the music/entertainment business. She knows good and damn well her mother don't know how to organize a damn concert. You saw how she quickly left after that "Jackson Family Honors" scam. Janet knew from day one: don't put family and business together. She clearly has also learned not to put relationships and business together, seeing she made that mistake, twice. So why would she trust her mother and do the concert? Besides she's got her OWN concert tour. Remember, she's gonna be back in the U.S. when the alleged concert takes place.

Timmy84 said:

I always said that Janet has NEVER trusted her family. Yeah she said she sees them all the time, yeah I know "cool aunt" and she's there for family gatherings but she only wants them as a FAMILY, not in the music/entertainment business. She knows good and damn well her mother don't know how to organize a damn concert. You saw how she quickly left after that "Jackson Family Honors" scam. Janet knew from day one: don't put family and business together. She clearly has also learned not to put relationships and business together, seeing she made that mistake, twice. So why would she trust her mother and do the concert? Besides she's got her OWN concert tour. Remember, she's gonna be back in the U.S. when the alleged concert takes place.

Oh I didnt know she was gonna be on tour during the same time of the concert. But you are right on about how Janet feels about doing business with her family Timmy! As I said, I dont blame her for not supporting this concert, I would do the same if I were in her shoes. But for those who are unfamiliar with the history of the drama and craziness of the Jackson family, on the surface it looks strange to have MJ's mom reaching out to other stars to get them to perform for this and yet Janet not being a part of it. I mean, I totally get her reasons and I agree with Janet.

And then you have the limelight lovin Jermaine against it--the same guy who tried to get his own tribute together (and failed) and who's been going on a mini-tour of his own singing Michael's hits. If he's against this concert then you KNOW somethings def. wrong with this it!

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

I always said that Janet has NEVER trusted her family. Yeah she said she sees them all the time, yeah I know "cool aunt" and she's there for family gatherings but she only wants them as a FAMILY, not in the music/entertainment business. She knows good and damn well her mother don't know how to organize a damn concert. You saw how she quickly left after that "Jackson Family Honors" scam. Janet knew from day one: don't put family and business together. She clearly has also learned not to put relationships and business together, seeing she made that mistake, twice. So why would she trust her mother and do the concert? Besides she's got her OWN concert tour. Remember, she's gonna be back in the U.S. when the alleged concert takes place.

Oh I didnt know she was gonna be on tour during the same time of the concert. But you are right on about how Janet feels about doing business with her family Timmy! As I said, I dont blame her for not supporting this concert, I would do the same if I were in her shoes. But for those who are unfamiliar with the history of the drama and craziness of the Jackson family, on the surface it looks strange to have MJ's mom reaching out to other stars to get them to perform for this and yet Janet not being a part of it. I mean, I totally get her reasons and I agree with Janet.

And then you have the limelight lovin Jermaine against it--the same guy who tried to get his own tribute together (and failed) and who's been going on a mini-tour of his own singing Michael's hits. If he's against this concert then you KNOW somethings def. wrong with this it!

Exactly. And also if THIS doesn't prove to some Jackson family apologists (*coughMJJF/KOPcough*) that there's trouble in Hayvenhurst, nothing will convince them, as the good people in the UK would say, "bleeding blokes".

Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Oh I didnt know she was gonna be on tour during the same time of the concert. But you are right on about how Janet feels about doing business with her family Timmy! As I said, I dont blame her for not supporting this concert, I would do the same if I were in her shoes. But for those who are unfamiliar with the history of the drama and craziness of the Jackson family, on the surface it looks strange to have MJ's mom reaching out to other stars to get them to perform for this and yet Janet not being a part of it. I mean, I totally get her reasons and I agree with Janet.

And then you have the limelight lovin Jermaine against it--the same guy who tried to get his own tribute together (and failed) and who's been going on a mini-tour of his own singing Michael's hits. If he's against this concert then you KNOW somethings def. wrong with this it!

Exactly. And also if THIS doesn't prove to some Jackson family apologists (*coughMJJF/KOPcough*) that there's trouble in Hayvenhurst, nothing will convince them, as the good people in the UK would say, "bleeding blokes".

Timmy84 said:

I always said that Janet has NEVER trusted her family. Yeah she said she sees them all the time, yeah I know "cool aunt" and she's there for family gatherings but she only wants them as a FAMILY, not in the music/entertainment business. She knows good and damn well her mother don't know how to organize a damn concert. You saw how she quickly left after that "Jackson Family Honors" scam. Janet knew from day one: don't put family and business together. She clearly has also learned not to put relationships and business together, seeing she made that mistake, twice. So why would she trust her mother and do the concert? Besides she's got her OWN concert tour. Remember, she's gonna be back in the U.S. when the alleged concert takes place.

What amazes me is, Janet's allowed to leave the family be and do her own thing. Unlike MJ, she's not badgered into doing things. It's like right now they could so use her credibility, but amazingly the family and the leeches around them seem to just leave her alone.

So we have

Team Randy

Randy

Jermaine

and probably Janet (since she usually supports Randy and usually doesn't want to be involved in family business)

and possibly Rebbie

and Joseph

Team Katherine

Katherine

Jackie

Tito

La Toya

Marlon

Which side are you on? I am trying to make up my mind

[Edited 8/12/11 14:43pm]

manthevan said:

So we have

Team Randy

Randy

Jermaine

and probably Janet (since she usually supports Randy and usually doesn't want to be involved in family business)

and possibly Rebbie

and Joseph

Team Katherine

Katherine

Jackie

Tito

La Toya

Marlon

Which side are you on? I am trying to make up my mind

[Edited 8/12/11 14:43pm]

I would go with Team Randy, even though I'm not a fan of his either. But this whole thing looked shady as hell from the get-go, with the way they've set up the ticketing and the charity donations, the $100K "trust fund" money for MJ3 that they announced this concert first w/out even securing the performers before hand, Katherine's last minute desperate courting of performers to perform at this tribute, the promoter not even guaranteeing the final line-up of performers (see Carinemjj's post) and so on...

I'm with Team Fuck All Of Them Except Michael, Janet, Prince Michael, Paris and Blanket.

Timmy84 said:

I always said that Janet has NEVER trusted her family. Yeah she said she sees them all the time, yeah I know "cool aunt" and she's there for family gatherings but she only wants them as a FAMILY, not in the music/entertainment business. She knows good and damn well her mother don't know how to organize a damn concert. You saw how she quickly left after that "Jackson Family Honors" scam. Janet knew from day one: don't put family and business together. She clearly has also learned not to put relationships and business together, seeing she made that mistake, twice. So why would she trust her mother and do the concert? Besides she's got her OWN concert tour. Remember, she's gonna be back in the U.S. when the alleged concert takes place.

Janet is in a very 1985 position here. God Bless her.

manthevan said:

So we have

Team Randy

Randy

Jermaine

and probably Janet (since she usually supports Randy and usually doesn't want to be involved in family business)

and possibly Rebbie

and Joseph

Team Katherine

Katherine

Jackie

Tito

La Toya

Marlon

Which side are you on? I am trying to make up my mind

[Edited 8/12/11 14:43pm]

manthevan said:

So we have

Team Randy

Randy

Jermaine

and probably Janet (since she usually supports Randy and usually doesn't want to be involved in family business)

and possibly Rebbie

and Joseph

Team Katherine

Katherine

Jackie

Tito

La Toya

Marlon

Which side are you on? I am trying to make up my mind

[Edited 8/12/11 14:43pm]

I used to like Tito and Jackie the most (with Janet and Rebbie) because they kept it low profile and always paid respect to Michael... so seeing them jump in this concert saddens me a lot.

So I'm on my own side watching them with Popcorn and tissues..

mookie said:

Timmy84 said:

I always said that Janet has NEVER trusted her family. Yeah she said she sees them all the time, yeah I know "cool aunt" and she's there for family gatherings but she only wants them as a FAMILY, not in the music/entertainment business. She knows good and damn well her mother don't know how to organize a damn concert. You saw how she quickly left after that "Jackson Family Honors" scam. Janet knew from day one: don't put family and business together. She clearly has also learned not to put relationships and business together, seeing she made that mistake, twice. So why would she trust her mother and do the concert? Besides she's got her OWN concert tour. Remember, she's gonna be back in the U.S. when the alleged concert takes place.

What amazes me is, Janet's allowed to leave the family be and do her own thing. Unlike MJ, she's not badgered into doing things. It's like right now they could so use her credibility, but amazingly the family and the leeches around them seem to just leave her alone.

Thank you for posting this. I agree wholeheartedly. I've always wondered why this family doesn't EXPECT Janet or badger her to help in anyway. My question is why do they just allow her to go on her merry way and not request or ask her to help?Why don't they expect her to have the brothers on HER tour? Why don't Katherine and Joe expect her to help out her nieces, nephews and other 2nd generation Jackson family member. WTF was Michael expected to help body and if he didn't even the damn media was saying that he refused to help his family. Again double standards.

Free2BMe said:

Thank you for posting this. I agree wholeheartedly. I've always wondered why this family doesn't EXPECT Janet or badger her to help in anyway. My question is why do they just allow her to go on her merry way and not request or ask her to help?Why don't they expect her to have the brothers on HER tour? Why don't Katherine and Joe expect her to help out her nieces, nephews and other 2nd generation Jackson family member. WTF was Michael expected to help body and if he didn't even the damn media was saying that he refused to help his family. Again double standards.

And watch as the years go on, just like their father, we'll hear and read about the kids being used and badgered into doing things, while still never hearing anything about Janet being bugged by the family.

Free2BMe said:

Thank you for posting this. I agree wholeheartedly. I've always wondered why this family doesn't EXPECT Janet or badger her to help in anyway. My question is why do they just allow her to go on her merry way and not request or ask her to help?Why don't they expect her to have the brothers on HER tour? Why don't Katherine and Joe expect her to help out her nieces, nephews and other 2nd generation Jackson family member. WTF was Michael expected to help body and if he didn't even the damn media was saying that he refused to help his family. Again double standards.

I've always just assumed it was because Janet never got talked into doing a whole lot of bullshit for the family to begin with -- by the time she was a star and therefore somebody they'd be interested in manipulating, she'd already learned to say no from looking at how they treated Michael, I would guess. So because she probably said no to their ideas right off the bat, they learned there was no use in trying with her. But because Michael had agreed to their shit before, they thought they could talk him into it again even when he'd said no approximately 2,349,109 times. That's just my theory -- who the hell knows with that family, though.

babybugz said:

manthevan said:

So we have

Team Randy

Randy

Jermaine

and probably Janet (since she usually supports Randy and usually doesn't want to be involved in family business)

and possibly Rebbie

and Joseph

Team Katherine

Katherine

Jackie

Tito

La Toya

Marlon

Which side are you on? I am trying to make up my mind

[Edited 8/12/11 14:43pm]

I'm on Team I stopped caring about the Jackson's drama just listen to their music and life has been better since. You should join this team

Good point

I pray for that family... their a mess.

NaughtyKitty said:

MJ's KIDS Going To the Tribute Concert DESPITE Jermaine's Wishes

Michael Jackson's children have decided they want to fly to Wales to catch the upcoming MJ Tribute Concert in person ... despite the fact they're getting pushback from two of their famous uncles.

An MJ family rep tells us, "Paris, Blanket and Prince have been asked to attend the MJ Tribute in Wales and they have decided to go."

The rep adds, "They are extremely excited and they're hoping they will have the opportunity to contribute in some way by making a speech. Nothing has been set in stone yet for how they can help, but they really hope they can. "

However, we're told, "Jermaine and Randy are fighting it."

As TMZ previously reported, the two brothers feel the timing of the tribute is "inappropriate" -- explaining, "We find it impossible to support an event that is due to take place during the criminal trial surrounding Michael's death."

''They have been asked'' is not the right term... Katherine recieved a 100 000$ check to prostitute the kids again for this concert. Proof? The kids APPEAR ON THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS SHEET OF THE CONCERT WHEN YOU REGISTER FOR TICKETS!!!

Not surprised.

A little OT but Randy is suing his former personal assistant for, get ready for this, stealing his damn house keys:

Michael Jackson's brother Randy claims a no-good thief has stolen the keys to his home, and he's pointing the finger at his very own personal assistant, TMZ has learned.

Jackson filed a police report with the Pasadena Police Department a few days ago claiming his former female assistant quit her job recently and refused to give back the keys to his home.

Sources close to the ex-assistant tell TMZ the two ended their professional relationship on very bad terms, but she's no thief.

The assistant worked for Jackson for roughly six months and claims she quit because she felt she was being underpaid.

After the split, the woman is saying she may have already had the keys in her possession because of her duties as Jackson's assistant but returned them ASAP.

We're told an investigation is underway, but law enforcement sources tell us the two sides are still trying to work things out. There is no official comment yet from either Jackson or the assistant.

LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/en...-is-thief/

MJ dying is really bringing out the worst from this family.

Arbwyth said:

Free2BMe said:

Thank you for posting this. I agree wholeheartedly. I've always wondered why this family doesn't EXPECT Janet or badger her to help in anyway. My question is why do they just allow her to go on her merry way and not request or ask her to help?Why don't they expect her to have the brothers on HER tour? Why don't Katherine and Joe expect her to help out her nieces, nephews and other 2nd generation Jackson family member. WTF was Michael expected to help body and if he didn't even the damn media was saying that he refused to help his family. Again double standards.

I've always just assumed it was because Janet never got talked into doing a whole lot of bullshit for the family to begin with -- by the time she was a star and therefore somebody they'd be interested in manipulating, she'd already learned to say no from looking at how they treated Michael, I would guess. So because she probably said no to their ideas right off the bat, they learned there was no use in trying with her. But because Michael had agreed to their shit before, they thought they could talk him into it again even when he'd said no approximately 2,349,109 times. That's just my theory -- who the hell knows with that family, though.

janet was never really part of the j5/jacksons, the 'vegas' family act notwithstanding. there is no emotional blackmail they could trade in on with janet.

however, with mj, his parents and his brothers felt that he owed them something. supposedly, katherine had told him once 'you might not need your brothers, but they need you.' and supposedly right before he died, joe was out front of mj's house screaming that he had nothing and it was mj's fault. there is a lot anger and bitterness there, in spite of what they pretend, because mj did leave them, taking all "their" money and fame with him. janet didn't do that to them, cause their fame and money never came through her, so i think they don't feel the same sense of 'betrayal', if you will, toward her.

but i don't think they were always successful in getting mj to do stuff. after the victory tour, he never committed to another tour with his brothers. jermy put together that 'family honors' thing and sold it on the premise that mj would perform; he didn't. when they were doing that reality show, most of which had been shot well before he died, mj couldn't even be bothered to be heard on the telephone. even janet made an 'appearance' that way. jermy, randy, and others manipulated him in other ways, though, like moving in with katherine knowing that mj wouldn't let his mother go without, and that if she asked him, he would give her more money to cover her added expenses.

Timmy84 said:

A little OT but Randy is suing his former personal assistant for, get ready for this, stealing his damn house keys:

Michael Jackson's brother Randy claims a no-good thief has stolen the keys to his home, and he's pointing the finger at his very own personal assistant, TMZ has learned.

Jackson filed a police report with the Pasadena Police Department a few days ago claiming his former female assistant quit her job recently and refused to give back the keys to his home.

Sources close to the ex-assistant tell TMZ the two ended their professional relationship on very bad terms, but she's no thief.

The assistant worked for Jackson for roughly six months and claims she quit because she felt she was being underpaid.

After the split, the woman is saying she may have already had the keys in her possession because of her duties as Jackson's assistant but returned them ASAP.

We're told an investigation is underway, but law enforcement sources tell us the two sides are still trying to work things out. There is no official comment yet from either Jackson or the assistant.

LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/en...-is-thief/

[Edited 8/13/11 21:18pm]

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:

A little OT but Randy is suing his former personal assistant for, get ready for this, stealing his damn house keys:

Michael Jackson's brother Randy claims a no-good thief has stolen the keys to his home, and he's pointing the finger at his very own personal assistant, TMZ has learned.

Jackson filed a police report with the Pasadena Police Department a few days ago claiming his former female assistant quit her job recently and refused to give back the keys to his home.

Sources close to the ex-assistant tell TMZ the two ended their professional relationship on very bad terms, but she's no thief.

The assistant worked for Jackson for roughly six months and claims she quit because she felt she was being underpaid.

After the split, the woman is saying she may have already had the keys in her possession because of her duties as Jackson's assistant but returned them ASAP.

We're told an investigation is underway, but law enforcement sources tell us the two sides are still trying to work things out. There is no official comment yet from either Jackson or the assistant.

LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/en...-is-thief/

randy i

My thoughts exactly. Just STUPID.