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Reply #660 posted 09/07/11 5:15pm

lowkey

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lowkey said:

whatever went on between mj and his family is their business not his fans, he was a grown man and made his own decisions. the family was so terrible yet thats where he wanted his kids to be . so you are saying because the kids will have their dads money they should be treated different from the other jackson kids? when mj was 5 his brothers were on stage singing and dancing to, it was the jackson 5 not just michael jackson. im still trying to see how they are being used, maybe because i dont spend most of my life on the internet and i dont see any interest in mj's kids offline, u can enlighten me on how they are being used. as for your last statement, no i really dont know why mj fans seem to hate his family so much. it seems like the fans are more concerned with who gets what or how this man's money is spent then about his real legacy, which is his music. the mj fans i know care about his music not his kids, his money,and all the other shit that dont concern us. for such a caring and generous man mj has some extremely selfish and petty fans.

Screw all this family stuff. Not sure why when it comes to MJ, his family is shoved down our throats. Foul is foul. If it was Debbie Rowe doing any of the things the family were doing, the same posters who choose to overlook what the family is doing, would be the 1st ones calling out Debbie. That's why all these excuses just seems like a joke. Debbie or Lisa Marie just blinks and some of these same Jackson family defenders will bitch up a storm, but suddenly when it comes to the family acting foul, it's none of our business? As for the kids being used. Most of their appearances have been mainly to sell something. So the accusation that they are being used is fair. Everyone knows never in a million years would Priscilla and Yoko do the things this family has done with the kids and be so stupid when it came to their loved one's legacy, so I don't get why some would even try to spin away what it is they are doing with the kids and them coming out with these embarrassing projects.

if debbie or lisa was related to mj at the time of his death why would i have a say in the decisions they made? debbie should be the one with her kids anyway, it was selfish for mj to create those kids and remove the mother from their lives. he left them on his elderly mother and now his fans wanna take every opportunity to attack her.im not nobodys defender, im a jacksons fan and i dont think its right the way mj fans have decided to take out their frustrations over him being gone on his family. of course they have done questionable shit over the years but since mj's death it just seem like any time his family is mentioned there is this big uproar. any other artist and their mother can sing mj songs, but if his brothers do it the fans are upset, anybody can write books about him but if a jackson does it fans are upset, people are making millions from his name,likeness,ect, if a jackson makes a few dollars fans are outraged. im still waiting to hear what they made the kids do, i saw them do a couple of short interviews talking about their dad. if the circus soliel or whateva da hell its called had the kids come to the show put them onstage and have them moonwalk i bet all of you will be up in here clapping like it was the best shit ever.

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Reply #661 posted 09/07/11 5:50pm

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lowkey said:

mookie said:

Screw all this family stuff. Not sure why when it comes to MJ, his family is shoved down our throats. Foul is foul. If it was Debbie Rowe doing any of the things the family were doing, the same posters who choose to overlook what the family is doing, would be the 1st ones calling out Debbie. That's why all these excuses just seems like a joke. Debbie or Lisa Marie just blinks and some of these same Jackson family defenders will bitch up a storm, but suddenly when it comes to the family acting foul, it's none of our business? As for the kids being used. Most of their appearances have been mainly to sell something. So the accusation that they are being used is fair. Everyone knows never in a million years would Priscilla and Yoko do the things this family has done with the kids and be so stupid when it came to their loved one's legacy, so I don't get why some would even try to spin away what it is they are doing with the kids and them coming out with these embarrassing projects.

if debbie or lisa was related to mj at the time of his death why would i have a say in the decisions they made? debbie should be the one with her kids anyway, it was selfish for mj to create those kids and remove the mother from their lives. he left them on his elderly mother and now his fans wanna take every opportunity to attack her.im not nobodys defender, im a jacksons fan and i dont think its right the way mj fans have decided to take out their frustrations over him being gone on his family. of course they have done questionable shit over the years but since mj's death it just seem like any time his family is mentioned there is this big uproar. any other artist and their mother can sing mj songs, but if his brothers do it the fans are upset, anybody can write books about him but if a jackson does it fans are upset, people are making millions from his name,likeness,ect, if a jackson makes a few dollars fans are outraged. im still waiting to hear what they made the kids do, i saw them do a couple of short interviews talking about their dad. if the circus soliel or whateva da hell its called had the kids come to the show put them onstage and have them moonwalk i bet all of you will be up in here clapping like it was the best shit ever.

oh brother! lol
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Reply #662 posted 09/07/11 6:30pm

allsmutaside

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Hey guys! We got another MJ tribute coming up! Tito & Rebbie are involved w/this one! Try to curb your enthusiasm over THIS! bananadance

David Gest, Jacksons plan tribute tour to Michael

Singer Tito Jackson arrives at the launch party for ''The Jacksons: A Family Dynasty'' reality show in Hollywood, California December 9, 2009. REUTERS/Jason Redmond

LOS ANGELES | Tue Sep 6, 2011 8:16am EDT


(Reuters) - Producer David Gest, Tito Jackson and others close to Michael Jackson on Monday unveiled a singing and spoken-word tribute tour to the late King of Pop.

"A Jackson Named Michael: Remembering a Legend," kicks off in the United Kingdom in March 2012, and follows another tribute set for October in Wales that has caused some controversy among fans of the "Thriller" singer.

Gest's show will feature Tito, a member with Michael of Motown singing sensations The Jackson 5, along with another sibling Rebbie Jackson and friend Deniece Williams singing tunes and telling tales about Jackson's life and career. Plans call for a question-and-answer session with audience members.

"The majority of the show will be reminiscences and stories about Michael that the public has never heard," Gest said in a statement.

The tour also follows the October U.K. release of Gest's documentary film, 'Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon," which Jackson's mother and family matriarch Katherine Jackson called "a tremendous achievement."

"This is not my story, but the story of many of Michael's friends' recollections," she said in a statement.

Michael Jackson, who rose to fame in a family of singers before embarking on a solo career that included smash hits such as "Thriller" and "Billie Jean," died in June 2009 of an overdose of the surgical anesthetic propofol which he used as a sleep aid.

His physician at the time, Dr. Conrad Murray, has been charged with involuntary manslaughter in Jackson's death. He has pleaded not guilty and a trial will start in September.

Katherine Jackson is just one of the family's members who has backed a one-night tribute planned for October 8 in Cardiff, Wales. But that tribute has caused some fans to cry foul over the singers who were invited, the charities benefiting from ticket sales and its timing during Murray's trial.

http://www.reuters.com/ar...MW20110906

neutral When will it all stop?

This sounds like a fun and genuine format to me; I would buy a ticket to this just for the storytelling. Gest freaks me out, but I like Rebbie and Tito and they are my favorite Jacksons, personality wise, over Michael and Janet even. When I have heard either of them speak on whatever subject they both come of articulate, interesting and compelling - no phoney voices or artificial delicacy on display.

I loved Michael Jackson. I do wonder if there are any other MJ stans who feel similarly that while unphatomable youthful superstardom, the Pepsi commercial/fire, Arnold Klein and Conrad Murray played key roles in his death, Michael Jackson also failed Michael Jackson? I mean there are so many ways, it seems from afar, in which Michael could have been working on himself and getting his life together with stability and moderation. And maybe he was and I don't have any idea about it. We are all responsible for our own shit storms in the real world at the end of the day. Just trying to express something, not trying to be rude to Michael's spirit, but it seems to me that there are teachable moments in his passing that are being overlooked by a rush to judgement on Conrad Murray.

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Reply #663 posted 09/07/11 9:32pm

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So when the heck are they gonna cancel this crappy tribute??!

I can't see it going ahead with such a poor lineup.

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Reply #664 posted 09/08/11 7:47am

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The very credible *cough* Mr. Andy Picheta (the one who made the conference calls) wrote an open letter to the fans... Does this man actually really questions who or what is a true fan??? eek

disbelief

Oh, by the way... Tickets are now on 2 for 1 selling... falloff Desperate much?

GLE's Letter to members of the MJ Fan Community



Thank you for the opportunity to send a message to Michael’s fans though your club. I know the fans have a number of concerns, most of which were highlighted in Mr Weitzman’s open letter to Chris Hunt. Others have come to the fore since, and I will discuss these also. I have been talking to a number of fan club presidents, and although the emphasis has been different, the core issues are clear.

Equally, our endeavours are clear also: We are presenting the Jackson family tribute to Michael. We have artists of international stature, or with meaningful links to Michael’s music, or both. Together with Christina Aguilera, Ne-Yo and Cee Lo Green, we have performers who have sympathetically and successfully presented Michael’s material – Craig David, Alien Ant Farm. We have young stars who humbly acknowledge inspiration by Michael; JLS, Leona Lewis, Pixie Lott, and Motown legends Smokey Robinson and Gladys Knight who in turn inspired Michael. Attending are Mrs Jackson and the children, siblings La Toya, Tito, Marlon and Jackie, and nephews Siggy, Taj, Taryll and TJ. Ron Weisner, Michael’s ex manager, is the creative producer, ensuring the presentation and performances are of Michael. Kevin Dorsey, who worked with Michael on tours Bad, Dangerous and History, is the Musical Director, working with band and singers to recreate Michael’s exact vision. We have band members of whom every one has played for Michael, either on tour or in the studio. Rehearsals have started in Los Angeles, and the vibe is one of purity of performance and responsibility to the musical legacy.

Michael Forever is the only multi-artist, family led, pure Michael tribute that will ever take place, so put aside your doubts, understand that artists and professionals of this calibre would not associate themselves with anything that was untrue to Michael, accept that we are dealing with your concerns where possible, and join us in honouring one of the world’s greatest ever musical performers while you still can.

We understand your concerns and we are addressing your worries, in the following ways:

The Estate
We have the greatest respect for the estate, the work it does continuing Michael’s legacy and the rights it owns. Until now we have been working in parallel with the estate, licencing available rights to present the show, but still working on the creative for it. The estate has not endorsed Michael Forever, and with the rights we have available, we have not sought or required such endorsement. Now that rehearsals have started, and we have a clearer idea of the shape of the event, we are preparing to reach out to the estate and seek commercial terms to licence certain rights owned by them we have identified as desirable.

The Trial
The timing is unfortunate. When we scheduled the concert in April the trial was due to start in June. It may move again yet. It may be over very quickly, or it may delay again. We believe, and the family believes, that a positive presentation of Michael’s musical genius can only be a good reminder of how great a loss was the loss of him.

Katherine Jackson
Michael’s mother chooses to honour her son. That’s it. Michael worshipped his mother and was very close to La Toya. His fans should respect that bond, and not post such unpleasantness that Taj feels he must publicly protect his grandmother on the web. No true fan of Michael would dishonour Mrs Jackson. Those that do are not deserving of anything other than our disappointment with their actions. The trust fund GLE set up in the children's name and administered by Katherine is our contribution to the family legacy. It was done openly, honourably and with our best intentions.

Other issues
Please remember that the British consumer has a huge amount of protection in English law, and the Event Terms and Conditions are written for insurers, and ours are less onerous than most others. Here's the clause from the Glastonbury festival: "2. The artist and performer line-up and all billed attractions may be subject to change at any time without notice". All purchasers also receive the standard protection offered by their credit card companies. You will see a great show, with exclusively Michael’s music performed by first class acts. The bill is still being added to, but the essence will always be Michael and his genius.

I hope these answers go some way towards explaining our position. We have a tribute worthy of Michael, presented by people passionate and dedicated to doing it right, to his family who loved him, performed by those who were inspired by him or inspired him, those who performed alongside him. We have further important announcements to make in the next few days that will prove beyond doubt that Michael Forever will be the purest most focused Michael tribute ever.

Thank you for reading
Andy Picheta
Producer GLE

http://www.mj4justice.com...-news.html

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Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
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Reply #665 posted 09/08/11 9:35pm

NaughtyKitty

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Jackson fans angry at tribute concert price cuts

(Reuters) - Michael Jackson fans were up in arms on Thursday over reports that promoters of a planned tribute concert had slashed ticket prices and apparently offered 2-for-1 ticket deals to the October event.

The furor on Jackson fan website and a Facebook page was the latest setback for organizers a month ahead of what was planned as a glorious tribute to the "Thriller" singer.

On Facebook, a group called Fans against Michael Forever Tribute posted a link and screenshot of a Ticketmaster UK website running a "buy 1 get 1 free" promotion that is bookable starting on September 16. According to the posting, the offer would not apply to tickets already purchased for the October 8 "Michael Forever" concert in Cardiff, Wales.

Fan site www.mjstar.co.uk reported that ticket holders had received a message from promoters announcing prices had been slashed by up to 50 percent.

Organizers Global Live Events did not immediately return calls for comment on Thursday.

The Ticketmaster website also stated that R&B singer Beyonce will be "making a special contribution on video" to the concert. Promoters had earlier said that Beyonce would be contributing a song via satellite.

Christina Aguilera, Cee Lo Green, Leona Lewis, Smokey Robinson and Ne-Yo are among singers giving live performances at the sports stadium venue in Cardiff, which has about 75,000 seats. Tickets went on general sale on August 24 at the end of an advance registration period.

The reported ticket deals were the latest sign of problems for the promoters. A group of 35 Michael Jackson fan clubs from around the world called in August for the tribute to be canceled, citing confusion over charitable donations, high ticket prices, and a swiftly withdrawn invitation to Jackson critic Gene Simmons and his rock band Kiss.

The "Michael Forever Tribute" is backed by the "Thriller" singer's mother and several of her children, but not by Jackson brothers Randy and Jermaine. The administrators of Jackson's estate, also, did not authorize the concert.

Michael's sister Janet Jackson has said she will not attend because the concert coincides with the trial in Los Angeles of the pop star's personal doctor, who is accused of involuntary manslaughter in his death in June 2009. Jury selection in that trial began on Thursday in Los Angeles.

Earlier this week, Tito and Rebbie Jackson unveiled a rival singing and spoken word tribute show to their brother on Monday that will tour Britain starting in March 2012.

Jackson, 50, died in Los Angeles on June 25, 2009 of an overdose of the anesthetic propofol, just weeks ahead of a series of planned comeback concerts in London.

http://www.reuters.com/ar...HM20110909

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Reply #666 posted 09/08/11 9:37pm

Timmy84

They're embarrassing themselves even more every day. We still got a full month... well just about, since the week's about over lol

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Reply #667 posted 09/08/11 9:40pm

NaughtyKitty

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Timmy84 said:

They're embarrassing themselves even more every day. We still got a full month... well just about, since the week's about over lol

Tell me about it! But I guess greed makes you immune to major embarrassment and blind to public scorn and ridicule disbelief

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Reply #668 posted 09/08/11 9:45pm

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

They're embarrassing themselves even more every day. We still got a full month... well just about, since the week's about over lol

Tell me about it! But I guess greed makes you immune to major embarrassment and blind to public scorn and ridicule disbelief

The funny thing is they've ALREADY been ridiculed and scorned. Even if it does go on, they can't hide the fact that only 6,800 people may only be present for the concert. No way they're gonna fill 70,000 seats by October. No way.

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Reply #669 posted 09/08/11 9:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Tell me about it! But I guess greed makes you immune to major embarrassment and blind to public scorn and ridicule disbelief

The funny thing is they've ALREADY been ridiculed and scorned. Even if it does go on, they can't hide the fact that only 6,800 people may only be present for the concert. No way they're gonna fill 70,000 seats by October. No way.

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Yes they have, and with each stupid action they do they get more ridicule and scorn, yet that hasnt stopped them from going full steam ahead with this farce. Regardless of the majority of the fans speaking out against it, half of the family not in support of it, the Gene Simmons fiasco, the shady ticket pricing/charity pledging....this whole thing screams disaster/shady/desperate money grab to many people but that hasnt stopped them from continuing on with this mess. mad

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Reply #670 posted 09/08/11 9:55pm

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

Timmy84 said:

The funny thing is they've ALREADY been ridiculed and scorned. Even if it does go on, they can't hide the fact that only 6,800 people may only be present for the concert. No way they're gonna fill 70,000 seats by October. No way.

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Yes they have, and with each stupid action they do they get more ridicule and scorn, yet that hasnt stopped them from going full steam ahead with this farce. Regardless of the majority of the fans speaking out against it, half of the family not in support of it, the Gene Simmons fiasco, the shady ticket pricing/charity pledging....this whole thing screams disaster/shady/desperate money grab to many people but that hasnt stopped them from continuing on with this mess. mad

And for a family that has dealt with bad press for 40 years, why do they need more bad news? sad

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Reply #671 posted 09/08/11 10:02pm

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^Ya know? Unless they've all become so immune to it they just dont care anymore?

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Reply #672 posted 09/08/11 10:03pm

Timmy84

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^Ya know? Unless they've all become so immune to it they just dont care anymore?

That could be it. neutral

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Reply #673 posted 09/09/11 9:20am

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From RadarOnline:

beyonce won't do a performance via satellite like promised by the concert. Instead, she'll send a video contribution, which could be an old video from a previous concert / a pre-taped performance / or just a video of her talking...

popcorn Ship is sinking...

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Reply #674 posted 09/09/11 9:40am

mookie

Audio: Jermaine Jackson Speaks His Mind on MJ Tribute Concert

On Thursday, singer Jermaine Jackson appeared The Tavis Smiley Show (radio show) from PRI. During the conversation, he shared his disagreement with the planned Michael Jackson tribute concert.

You can hear the entire conversation on September 16 on public radio stations nationwide. For stations and airtimes, visit www.tavistalks.com

Hear what he says here:

http://soundcloud.com/eur...mj/s-GS2BP

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Reply #675 posted 09/09/11 9:54am

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TMZ reports that Jamie Foxx would participate to this mess..

Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
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Reply #676 posted 09/09/11 11:59am

NaughtyKitty

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carinemjj said:

From RadarOnline:

beyonce won't do a performance via satellite like promised by the concert. Instead, she'll send a video contribution, which could be an old video from a previous concert / a pre-taped performance / or just a video of her talking...

popcorn Ship is sinking...

LOL! Yes the ship is sinking, and if it were a plane it would be crashing and burning. And yet they are still going full steam ahead. Also saw this quote from that article on RadarOnline:

A rep for Beyonce tells RadarOnline.com: “We never announced or confirmed Beyonce's participation, various media outlets announced her performing by satellite not us and we never confirmed that.

lol

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Reply #677 posted 09/09/11 12:10pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Also saw this quote from that article on RadarOnline:


A rep for Beyonce tells RadarOnline.com: “We never announced or confirmed Beyonce's participation, various media outlets announced her performing by satellite not us and we never confirmed that.

lol

wth does that mean? That GLE announced Beyonce as an artist but never told Beyonce she'd be a part of the show?

She would have come up front denying if it was the case... weird...

Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
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Reply #678 posted 09/09/11 12:15pm

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carinemjj said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Also saw this quote from that article on RadarOnline:


A rep for Beyonce tells RadarOnline.com: “We never announced or confirmed Beyonce's participation, various media outlets announced her performing by satellite not us and we never confirmed that.

lol

wth does that mean? That GLE announced Beyonce as an artist but never told Beyonce she'd be a part of the show?

She would have come up front denying if it was the case... weird...

I was thinking the same thing, makes you wonder doesnt it hmmm

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Reply #679 posted 09/09/11 1:01pm

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I was thinking the same thing, makes you wonder doesnt it hmmm

Well, if they are able to have Cee-Lo Green believe that the Estate is actually taking part of this.. maybe they can have Beyonce without her even knowing....

lol

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Reply #680 posted 09/09/11 1:07pm

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carinemjj said:

NaughtyKitty said:

I was thinking the same thing, makes you wonder doesnt it hmmm

Well, if they are able to have Cee-Lo Green believe that the Estate is actually taking part of this.. maybe they can have Beyonce without her even knowing....

lol

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That's very well possible. Although I wouldn't be surprised if Beyonce is simply backing out now being that it's becoming more and more unpopular by the day. Who knows? I wouldn't trust either camp though.

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Reply #681 posted 09/09/11 1:12pm

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Agree

Yeah, I love Graffiti Bridge movie, so what? ''Oooooooooooh Montreal, say it!''
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Reply #682 posted 09/09/11 1:47pm

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

carinemjj said:

From RadarOnline:

beyonce won't do a performance via satellite like promised by the concert. Instead, she'll send a video contribution, which could be an old video from a previous concert / a pre-taped performance / or just a video of her talking...

popcorn Ship is sinking...

LOL! Yes the ship is sinking, and if it were a plane it would be crashing and burning. And yet they are still going full steam ahead. Also saw this quote from that article on RadarOnline:

A rep for Beyonce tells RadarOnline.com: “We never announced or confirmed Beyonce's participation, various media outlets announced her performing by satellite not us and we never confirmed that.

lol

AW HELL!!! falloff

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Reply #683 posted 09/09/11 1:50pm

Timmy84

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TMZ reports that Jamie Foxx would participate to this mess..

He was part of that shitty BET tribute so yeah I can see him doing...something lmao

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Reply #689 posted 09/09/11 4:58pm

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carinemjj said:

NaughtyKitty said:

I was thinking the same thing, makes you wonder doesnt it hmmm

Well, if they are able to have Cee-Lo Green believe that the Estate is actually taking part of this.. maybe they can have Beyonce without her even knowing....

lol

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You know that is possible lol

So now not only is Jamie Foxx performing, he's hosting this mess! barf

Jamie Foxx Hosting Michael Jackson Tribute

Us Magazine - 35 minutes ago

Gone but not forgotten!

Michael Jackson passed away in 2009, but his legacy lives on. On Oct. 8, Jamie Foxx is hosting -- and performing -- at the Michael Forever Tribute Concert in Cardiff, Wales.

"I am truly honored to be working with Global Live Events and the Jackson family members in participating in this epic event," Foxx, 43, told Us Weekly exclusively. "Michael was larger than life and I have admired him, honored him, joked about him but always loved and respected him... I hope I honor his legacy in a way that would make him laugh and cry."

Also participating in the event? Christina Aguilera, Cee Lo Green, Smokey Robinson, The Jackson Brothers and Leona Lewis.

http://omg.yahoo.com/news...bute/71785

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