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Reply #60 posted 07/20/11 8:55am

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rolleyes I ain't puttin' nothing in your mouth:

"The point is soul screaming is a traditional part of classic r&b/soul music. If most of you cannot understand it or feeling it in your soul (pun intended), then you do not understand black music. Period."

And this is YOUR opinion not a fact.

No, it IS fact.

It is not an opinion that soul screaming has been a part of classic R&B/Soul music as well as part of the black church. While I agree that not liking it and not understanding it are two different things, it is a commonality that we share culturally that is just "understood" from haaving a common culture. While it certainly doesn't mean that you have to like it (or Patti for that matter), not understanding it means you missed something in class (culturally) because it IS a part of black American culture.

The opinion is that I don't understand or feel that. I didn't say shit about ANY of that. I just said she's screaming in my opinion MOST of the time. Traditional R&B, gospel, soul singers did not scream through a whole song like Patti does IMO. So it's stupid to even bring that other shit up cuz that's not what IIIIIII was talking about. And me not liking Patti does not indicate anything about my understanding of black music. It just means I don't like Patti. And who is the "We" you're referring to?

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Reply #61 posted 07/20/11 8:56am

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BlaqueKnight said:

SCNDLS said:

rolleyes I ain't puttin' nothing in your mouth:

"The point is soul screaming is a traditional part of classic r&b/soul music. If most of you cannot understand it or feeling it in your soul (pun intended), then you do not understand black music. Period."

And this is YOUR opinion not a fact.

No, it IS fact.

It is not an opinion that soul screaming has been a part of classic R&B/Soul music as well as part of the black church. While I agree that not liking it and not understanding it are two different things, it is a commonality that we share culturally that is just "understood" from haaving a common culture. While it certainly doesn't mean that you have to like it (or Patti for that matter), not understanding it means you missed something in class (culturally) because it IS a part of black American culture.

Thank you! Exactly. clapping nod thumbs up!

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Reply #62 posted 07/20/11 8:59am

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falloff So cuz I don't like Patti I hate and don't understand all black music??? That's some mo' ridiculous shit. But again, typical. I didn't know that an opinion of ONE singer equated to hating all black music. But it makes sense in Tony's world which proves that I don't even need to bother discussing it. nuts wave

Well maybe if you (as one of Patti's negative critics) were a little more specific about what you like OR dislike about Patti as a vocalist, then maybe I will not have to point out the obvious problems and/or misunderstanting that some people (especially the few white people that I've known in my life that have complain about Patti to my face) have about Patti's vocal dynamics.

Don't hate on me because I understand AND know the black experience better than you do SCNDLS. Your just be wasting you time making me into the enemy that I'm not.

Just saying.

I don't have to be specific about anything cuz it's not that serious. I don't like her singing style point blank period. And what does race have to do with it? See, this is what I mean you're bringing up shit that don't have NOTHING to do with I'm talking about and talking a bunch of mumbo jumbo that's moot. So once again wave

And how do you KNOW that you understand and know the black experience better than I do? Based on what, me not liking Patti Labelle? Who knew it was that simple? This is exactly the nonsense I'm talking about. nuts

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Reply #63 posted 07/20/11 8:59am

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SCNDLS said:

rolleyes I ain't puttin' nothing in your mouth:

"The point is soul screaming is a traditional part of classic r&b/soul music. If most of you cannot understand it or feeling it in your soul (pun intended), then you do not understand black music. Period."

And this is YOUR opinion not a fact.

While I agree that not liking it and not understanding it are two different things,

That is what I'm talking about. Nothing more.

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Reply #64 posted 07/20/11 9:07am

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SCNDLS said:

BlaqueKnight said:

No, it IS fact.

It is not an opinion that soul screaming has been a part of classic R&B/Soul music as well as part of the black church. While I agree that not liking it and not understanding it are two different things, it is a commonality that we share culturally that is just "understood" from haaving a common culture. While it certainly doesn't mean that you have to like it (or Patti for that matter), not understanding it means you missed something in class (culturally) because it IS a part of black American culture.

The opinion is that I don't understand or feel that. I didn't say shit about ANY of that. I just said she's screaming in my opinion MOST of the time. Traditional R&B, gospel, soul singers did not scream through a whole song like Patti does IMO. So it's stupid to even bring that other shit up cuz that's not what IIIIIII was talking about. And me not liking Patti does not indicate anything about my understanding of black music. And who is the "We" you're referring to?

Are you freaking kidding us?!? omg I know plenty of soul screamers in gospel music past AND present:

Mahalia Jackson (Aretha & Patti got their game directly from THIS woman!)

Albertina Walker

Tramaine Hawkins

The Clark Sisters

Yolanda Adams

Everything & anything that Patti has done vocally in the studio and/or in a live performance is no different from what those ladies of gospels have done all the time. But you would need to do you own research and hear the truth for yourselves. wink

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Reply #65 posted 07/20/11 9:12am

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:

Well maybe if you (as one of Patti's negative critics) were a little more specific about what you like OR dislike about Patti as a vocalist, then maybe I will not have to point out the obvious problems and/or misunderstanting that some people (especially the few white people that I've known in my life that have complain about Patti to my face) have about Patti's vocal dynamics.

Don't hate on me because I understand AND know the black experience better than you do SCNDLS. Your just be wasting you time making me into the enemy that I'm not.

Just saying.

I don't have to be specific about anything cuz it's not that serious. I don't like her singing style point blank period. And what does race have to do with it? See, this is what I mean you're bringing up shit that don't have NOTHING to do with I'm talking about and talking a bunch of mumbo jumbo that's moot. So once again wave

And how do you KNOW that you understand and know the black experience better than I do? Based on what, me not liking Patti Labelle? Who knew it was that simple? This is exactly the nonsense I'm talking about. nuts

[Edited 7/20/11 9:03am]

For a grown man (who is black BTW!) at age 37, I have plenty of life experience, THAT'S how. And I also do my own research, hence why I had to mention some female gospel artists that can soul scream as often as Patti LeBelle does.

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Reply #66 posted 07/20/11 9:14am

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:

I don't have to be specific about anything cuz it's not that serious. I don't like her singing style point blank period. And what does race have to do with it? See, this is what I mean you're bringing up shit that don't have NOTHING to do with I'm talking about and talking a bunch of mumbo jumbo that's moot. So once again wave

And how do you KNOW that you understand and know the black experience better than I do? Based on what, me not liking Patti Labelle? Who knew it was that simple? This is exactly the nonsense I'm talking about. nuts

[Edited 7/20/11 9:03am]

For a grown man (who is black BTW!) at age 37, I have plenty of life experience, THAT'S how. And I also do my own research, hence why I had to mention some female gospel artists that can soul scream as often as Patti LeBelle does.

spit So cuz you're a 37 year old black man you know more about the black experience than I do just because I don't like Patti Labelle??? nutty

And you OBVIOUSLY didn't comprehend my statement about soul/gospel singers cuz you missed my point ENTIRELY but again typical of you comfort

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Reply #67 posted 07/20/11 9:19am

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The opinion is that I don't understand or feel that. I didn't say shit about ANY of that. I just said she's screaming in my opinion MOST of the time. Traditional R&B, gospel, soul singers did not scream through a whole song like Patti does IMO. So it's stupid to even bring that other shit up cuz that's not what IIIIIII was talking about. And me not liking Patti does not indicate anything about my understanding of black music. It just means I don't like Patti. And who is the "We" you're referring to?

[Edited 7/20/11 9:00am]

First, she doesn't scream through entire songs. You are exaggerating. Shall I pick ANY Patti Labelle song and break it down for you and show you? You don't have to exaggerate to make your point. Patti always builds up to her end (which is where her "screaming" as you call it comes in), throwing little ad libs in here and there on the way to let you know what's coming. Its been her style and has been a crowd pleaser for a long time. Patti and Luther have been the STANDARD for "real R&B singers" for a long time. I have to question how detatched you are from black American culture to not know that. Just because you don't like Patti does lessen her influence or impact. The fact that you try to bring that to question says more about your own denial.

I disliked most of Jodeci's songs but I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a huge impact on 90s contemporary R&B. Not everything can be reduced to mere opinion.

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Reply #68 posted 07/20/11 9:21am

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:

For a grown man (who is black BTW!) at age 37, I have plenty of life experience, THAT'S how. And I also do my own research, hence why I had to mention some female gospel artists that can soul scream as often as Patti LeBelle does.

spit So cuz you're a 37 year old black man you know more about the black experience than I do just because I don't like Patti Labelle??? nutty

At this point, you're flamebaiting. And out of respect for Timmy and his thread, I will not entertain your bullshit any further.

But it's good to know that you are no different from some of the other non-U.S. Americans that I know in a few other forums/blogs over the years that show absolutely no respect for black/African culture nor could really care less to educated themselves about something they do not understand.

You're free to live AND die in you own igonant SCNDLS. I will not talk to you in this thread any further. neutral

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Reply #69 posted 07/20/11 9:24am

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BlaqueKnight said:

SCNDLS said:

The opinion is that I don't understand or feel that. I didn't say shit about ANY of that. I just said she's screaming in my opinion MOST of the time. Traditional R&B, gospel, soul singers did not scream through a whole song like Patti does IMO. So it's stupid to even bring that other shit up cuz that's not what IIIIIII was talking about. And me not liking Patti does not indicate anything about my understanding of black music. It just means I don't like Patti. And who is the "We" you're referring to?

[Edited 7/20/11 9:00am]

First, she doesn't scream through entire songs. You are exaggerating. Shall I pick ANY Patti Labelle song and break it down for you and show you? You don't have to exaggerate to make your point. Patti always builds up to her end (which is where her "screaming" as you call it comes in), throwing little ad libs in here and there on the way to let you know what's coming. Its been her style and has been a crowd pleaser for a long time. Patti and Luther have been the STANDARD for "real R&B singers" for a long time. I have to question how detatched you are from black American culture to not know that. Just because you don't like Patti does lessen her influence or impact. The fact that you try to bring that to question says more about your own denial.

I disliked most of Jodeci's songs but I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a huge impact on 90s contemporary R&B. Not everything can be reduced to mere opinion.

That's not been MY experience, you ain't got to show me shit I've seen her live enough to make my own opinion. She sounds like she's screaming thru most of her live performances TO ME. Why are ya'll so bothered that I don't like Patti? It's not that fucking serious and ya'll are turning into this a federal fucking case. Get over it! rolleyes

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Reply #70 posted 07/20/11 9:26am

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BlaqueKnight said:

SCNDLS said:

The opinion is that I don't understand or feel that. I didn't say shit about ANY of that. I just said she's screaming in my opinion MOST of the time. Traditional R&B, gospel, soul singers did not scream through a whole song like Patti does IMO. So it's stupid to even bring that other shit up cuz that's not what IIIIIII was talking about. And me not liking Patti does not indicate anything about my understanding of black music. It just means I don't like Patti. And who is the "We" you're referring to?

[Edited 7/20/11 9:00am]

First, she doesn't scream through entire songs. You are exaggerating. Shall I pick ANY Patti Labelle song and break it down for you and show you? You don't have to exaggerate to make your point. Patti always builds up to her end (which is where her "screaming" as you call it comes in), throwing little ad libs in here and there on the way to let you know what's coming. Its been her style and has been a crowd pleaser for a long time. Patti and Luther have been the STANDARD for "real R&B singers" for a long time. I have to question how detatched you are from black American culture to not know that. Just because you don't like Patti does lessen her influence or impact. The fact that you try to bring that to question says more about your own denial.

I disliked most of Jodeci's songs but I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a huge impact on 90s contemporary R&B. Not everything can be reduced to mere opinion.

As always, you mean well BK. But don't even bother any further. It's very clear to me that SCNDLS is not interested in wanting to understand the impact that black culture has had within American music history. Sometimes, some euro-brats are like that. neutral

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Reply #71 posted 07/20/11 9:27am

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:

spit So cuz you're a 37 year old black man you know more about the black experience than I do just because I don't like Patti Labelle??? nutty

At this point, you're flamebaiting. And out of respect for Timmy and his thread, I will not entertain your bullshit any further.

But it's good to know that you are no different from some of the other non-U.S. Americans that I know in a few other forums/blogs over the years that show absolutely no respect for black/African culture nor could really care less to educated themselves about something they do not understand.

You're free to live AND die in you own igonant SCNDLS. I will not talk to you in this thread any further. neutral

And you are clearly mental because I am a dark-skinned black woman who has lived in the US most of my life and grew up "in the church" so ain't shit YOU can tell me about MY black experience but ONCE again your craziness comes to light. nutty

So you need not EVER talk to me again, somehow I think I'll make it. lol

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Reply #72 posted 07/20/11 9:27am

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TonyVanDam said:

BlaqueKnight said:

First, she doesn't scream through entire songs. You are exaggerating. Shall I pick ANY Patti Labelle song and break it down for you and show you? You don't have to exaggerate to make your point. Patti always builds up to her end (which is where her "screaming" as you call it comes in), throwing little ad libs in here and there on the way to let you know what's coming. Its been her style and has been a crowd pleaser for a long time. Patti and Luther have been the STANDARD for "real R&B singers" for a long time. I have to question how detatched you are from black American culture to not know that. Just because you don't like Patti does lessen her influence or impact. The fact that you try to bring that to question says more about your own denial.

I disliked most of Jodeci's songs but I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a huge impact on 90s contemporary R&B. Not everything can be reduced to mere opinion.

As always, you mean well BK. But don't even bother any further. It's very clear to me that SCNDLS is not interested in wanting to understand the impact that black culture has had within American music history. Sometimes, some euro-brats are like that. neutral

You are too spayshul for words falloff

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Reply #73 posted 07/20/11 9:35am

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SCNDLS said:

BlaqueKnight said:

First, she doesn't scream through entire songs. You are exaggerating. Shall I pick ANY Patti Labelle song and break it down for you and show you? You don't have to exaggerate to make your point. Patti always builds up to her end (which is where her "screaming" as you call it comes in), throwing little ad libs in here and there on the way to let you know what's coming. Its been her style and has been a crowd pleaser for a long time. Patti and Luther have been the STANDARD for "real R&B singers" for a long time. I have to question how detatched you are from black American culture to not know that. Just because you don't like Patti does lessen her influence or impact. The fact that you try to bring that to question says more about your own denial.

I disliked most of Jodeci's songs but I'd be lying if I said they didn't have a huge impact on 90s contemporary R&B. Not everything can be reduced to mere opinion.

That's not been MY experience, you ain't got to show me shit I've seen her live enough to make my own opinion. She sounds like she's screaming thru most of her live performances TO ME. Why are ya'll so bothered that I don't like Patti? It's not that fucking serious and ya'll are turning into this a federal fucking case. Get over it! rolleyes

In an earlier post, you said:

" rolleyes None of this has shit to do with why I don't like Patti and is completely irrelevant. But that's typical Tony. Where is it written that all black people have to like the same ANYTHING? And you sure as hell aren't the arbiter of what I feel in MY soul or what I should consider an artform".

But you have yet to tell anyone (especially me) why you don't like Patti LeBelle as a artist. If you want anyone to understand you instead of giving you an unwanted music history lesson, the least you can do is fixed this problem by explaining why you don't care for Patti.

THIS^ solution is lot more peacefully than you called me "typical Tony". If you wanted respect, you have to show plenty of respect to others as well.

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Reply #74 posted 07/20/11 9:36am

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SCNDLS said:

That's not been MY experience, you ain't got to show me shit I've seen her live enough to make my own opinion. She sounds like she's screaming thru most of her live performances TO ME. Why are ya'll so bothered that I don't like Patti? It's not that fucking serious and ya'll are turning into this a federal fucking case. Get over it! rolleyes

Why do you think I'm trying to get you to like Patti? How would that benefit me?

Given who's site you're on, I'd think you'd be accustomed to screaming in songs.

You are right. Its not that serious.

Patti is loved by many INCLUDING Ledisi, so its not like her influence isn't felt whether you like her or not.

So its cool.

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Reply #75 posted 07/20/11 9:39am

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:

At this point, you're flamebaiting. And out of respect for Timmy and his thread, I will not entertain your bullshit any further.

But it's good to know that you are no different from some of the other non-U.S. Americans that I know in a few other forums/blogs over the years that show absolutely no respect for black/African culture nor could really care less to educated themselves about something they do not understand.

You're free to live AND die in you own igonant SCNDLS. I will not talk to you in this thread any further. neutral

And you are clearly mental because I am a dark-skinned black woman who has lived in the US most of my life and grew up "in the church" so ain't shit YOU can tell me about MY black experience but ONCE again your craziness comes to light. nutty

So you need not EVER talk to me again, somehow I think I'll make it. lol

[Edited 7/20/11 9:35am]

.........mostly likely in the same suburbs as Michelle Bachmann where the percentage of black Americans are within 5%.

Oops, did I say THAT?!?^ lol

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Reply #76 posted 07/20/11 9:44am

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:

And you are clearly mental because I am a dark-skinned black woman who has lived in the US most of my life and grew up "in the church" so ain't shit YOU can tell me about MY black experience but ONCE again your craziness comes to light. nutty

So you need not EVER talk to me again, somehow I think I'll make it. lol

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.........mostly likely in the same suburbs as Michelle Bachmann where the percentage of black Americans are within 5%.

Oops, did I say THAT?!?^ lol

whofarted Wow. So cuz I don't like Patti I have to prove my "blackness" to YOU? But wait I thought I was a "Euro brat" Which is it? And I"m to "live and die in my ignorance" cuz I don't like Patti but you feel just fine saying some dumb shit like this?

I wonder what the percentage of blacks is in Hawaii where the president was born and raised. Guess he isn't black enough either. nutty

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Reply #77 posted 07/20/11 9:45am

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Wow!

The truth is that this quote set the tone for the bullshit that this thread has morphed into - "That's what the world needs, anoher crazy old black bitch. lol" It just didn't work on any level here. My compliments to Blaque Knight for displaying self control and diplomacy while still hitting at the heart of the matter. ("Tell us what the world needs, then.")

Even in a thread where we are discussing a compliment to another artist, the universe has somehow hijacked this thread in Patti's name. Now that's crazy son.

I am having a rough year in my understanding of Patti Labelle. I am really starting to feel that she is often disingenuous, always seeking to prove her worth amongst the Queens who are her contemporaries. It seems to me that every year Ms. Labelle's singing has less and less to do with melody and the like, and more to do with showing out her instrument. (Still, I love you Patti.) I have this lingering comparison going on in my head for Patti and her struggle to have her gifts fully acknowleged, and the scenario with Clive Davis and Whitney; Patti fought the same fight as Whitney, but she was determined not to drown in the storm. And with that observation - I have found my Patti mojo again.

And SCNDLS, you are "dismissed" for suggesting such a thing about The Clark Sisters. "The price you pay for ..." referring to The Clark Sisters as screamers "...is, I collect your fucking head." -O-Ren Ishii

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Reply #78 posted 07/20/11 9:48am

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Wow!

The truth is that this quote set the tone for the bullshit that this thread has morphed into - "That's what the world needs, anoher crazy old black bitch. lol" It just didn't work on any level here. My compliments to Blaque Knight for displaying self control and diplomacy while still hitting at the heart of the matter. ("Tell us what the world needs, then.")

Even in a thread where we are discussing a compliment to another artist, the universe has somehow hijacked this thread in Patti's name. Now that's crazy son.

I am having a rough year in my understanding of Patti Labelle. I am really starting to feel that she is often disingenuous, always seeking to prove her worth amongst the Queens who are her contemporaries. It seems to me that every year Ms. Labelle's singing has less and less to do with melody and the like, and more to do with showing out her instrument. (Still, I love you Patti.) I have this lingering comparison going on in my head for Patti and her struggle to have her gifts fully acknowleged, and the scenario with Clive Davis and Whitney; Patti fought the same fight as Whitney, but she was determined not to drown in the storm. And with that observation - I have found my Patti mojo again.

And SCNDLS, you are "dismissed" for suggesting such a thing about The Clark Sisters. "The price you pay for ..." referring to The Clark Sisters as screamers "...is, I collect your fucking head." -O-Ren Ishii

Where did i say ANYTHING about the clark sisters? What the fuck are YOU on now? My ONLY comments were about Patti and Ledisi. I didn't compare them to anyone else and stated my point clearly. So you can take that bullshit somewhere else. wave

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Reply #79 posted 07/20/11 9:48am

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:

.........mostly likely in the same suburbs as Michelle Bachmann where the percentage of black Americans are within 5%.

Oops, did I say THAT?!?^ lol

whofarted Wow. So cuz I don't like Patti I have to prove my "blackness" to YOU? But wait I thought I was a "Euro brat" Which is it?

I wonder what the percentage of blacks is in Hawaii where the president was born and raised. Guess he isn't black enough either. nutty

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No. But you still never answer this question: Why exactly you do not like Patti LeBelle as a vocalist?

THIS is my 3rd time asking THIS honest question and you're still dodging.

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Reply #80 posted 07/20/11 9:50am

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:

whofarted Wow. So cuz I don't like Patti I have to prove my "blackness" to YOU? But wait I thought I was a "Euro brat" Which is it?

I wonder what the percentage of blacks is in Hawaii where the president was born and raised. Guess he isn't black enough either. nutty

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No. But you still never answer this question: Why exactly you do not like Patti LeBelle as a vocalist?

THIS is my 3rd time asking THIS honest question and you're still dodging.

After the way YOU have acted in this thead I don't owe you a muthafucking thing. I stated MY opinion and I don't give two shits whether you like it or not so get the fuck over it.

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Reply #81 posted 07/20/11 9:56am

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Graycap23 said:

Speaking only 4 myself, I like Patti when she is singing in a "normal" tone, but she starts all of that ablib stuff, it turns me off. All I hear at that point is a bunch of SCREAMING. She is not very good at adlibing live songs in my opinion.

The second part is, I only like about 5% if her recorded material. 4 the most part her music bores me 2 tears. Does he have talent? Yes. Does it move me? No.

I think she's screaming MOST of the time. I don't hate Patti but I don't get why she gets the legend label at all. I've seen them both live and Ledisi's vocal quality/tone and stage presence kills Patti IMO. Plus I can't stand Patti's forever showboating behavior at the most inappropriate times like during Celia Cruz's tribute and Luther's funeral. confused

And if this comment isn't clear enough for you too fucking bad. finger

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Reply #82 posted 07/20/11 9:57am

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:

No. But you still never answer this question: Why exactly you do not like Patti LeBelle as a vocalist?

THIS is my 3rd time asking THIS honest question and you're still dodging.

After the way YOU have acted in this thead I don't owe you a muthafucking thing. I stated MY opinion and I don't give two shits whether you like it or not so get the fuck over it.

You know something SCNDLS, you're a straight up Aunt Jermina, you know that?!? disbelief

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Reply #83 posted 07/20/11 9:59am

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TonyVanDam said:

SCNDLS said:

After the way YOU have acted in this thead I don't owe you a muthafucking thing. I stated MY opinion and I don't give two shits whether you like it or not so get the fuck over it.

You know something SCNDLS, you're a straight up Aunt Jermina, you know that?!? disbelief

lol So now I'm Aunt Jermina cuz I don't like Patti. Who knew Patti was the sacred cow capable of getting folks this worked up falloff

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Reply #84 posted 07/20/11 10:06am

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allsmutaside said:

Wow!

The truth is that this quote set the tone for the bullshit that this thread has morphed into - "That's what the world needs, anoher crazy old black bitch. lol" It just didn't work on any level here. My compliments to Blaque Knight for displaying self control and diplomacy while still hitting at the heart of the matter. ("Tell us what the world needs, then.")

Even in a thread where we are discussing a compliment to another artist, the universe has somehow hijacked this thread in Patti's name. Now that's crazy son.

I am having a rough year in my understanding of Patti Labelle. I am really starting to feel that she is often disingenuous, always seeking to prove her worth amongst the Queens who are her contemporaries. It seems to me that every year Ms. Labelle's singing has less and less to do with melody and the like, and more to do with showing out her instrument. (Still, I love you Patti.) I have this lingering comparison going on in my head for Patti and her struggle to have her gifts fully acknowleged, and the scenario with Clive Davis and Whitney; Patti fought the same fight as Whitney, but she was determined not to drown in the storm. And with that observation - I have found my Patti mojo again.

And SCNDLS, you are "dismissed" for suggesting such a thing about The Clark Sisters. "The price you pay for ..." referring to The Clark Sisters as screamers "...is, I collect your fucking head." -O-Ren Ishii

Where did i say ANYTHING about the clark sisters? What the fuck are YOU on now? My ONLY comments were about Patti and Ledisi. I didn't compare them to anyone else and stated my point clearly. So you can take that bullshit somewhere else. wave

So, a simple error in observing who responded about the Clark Sisters warrants this bullshit "federal case" response? You need to take a break from this situation because you are mistaking a humorous quote from fucking Kill Bill for some reason to get all bunched up. I bring that bullshit right to you, cuz it belongs in your pocket - a pocket full of bullshit.

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Reply #85 posted 07/20/11 10:09am

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allsmutaside said:

SCNDLS said:

Where did i say ANYTHING about the clark sisters? What the fuck are YOU on now? My ONLY comments were about Patti and Ledisi. I didn't compare them to anyone else and stated my point clearly. So you can take that bullshit somewhere else. wave

So, a simple error in observing who responded about the Clark Sisters warrants this bullshit "federal case" response? You need to take a break from this situation because you are mistaking a humorous quote from fucking Kill Bill for some reason to get all bunched up. I bring that bullshit right to you, cuz it belongs in your pocket - a pocket full of bullshit.

YOU misquote me and instead of acknowledging your mistake, apologizing, and moving on you got some more bullshit to say??? Absolutely crazy. lol

[Edited 7/20/11 10:11am]

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Reply #86 posted 07/20/11 10:11am

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SCNDLS said:

After the way YOU have acted in this thead I don't owe you a muthafucking thing. I stated MY opinion and I don't give two shits whether you like it or not so get the fuck over it.

You know something SCNDLS, you're a straight up Aunt Jermina, you know that?!? disbelief

Tony, what the hell? Get your god damn apologies out for that name calling right now son. We all deserve one from you for bringing the conversation to that lonely ugly innapproriate wrong place.

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Reply #87 posted 07/20/11 10:14am

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SCNDLS said:

allsmutaside said:

So, a simple error in observing who responded about the Clark Sisters warrants this bullshit "federal case" response? You need to take a break from this situation because you are mistaking a humorous quote from fucking Kill Bill for some reason to get all bunched up. I bring that bullshit right to you, cuz it belongs in your pocket - a pocket full of bullshit.

YOU misquote me and instead of acknowledging your mistake, apologizing, and moving on you got some more bullshit to say??? Absolutely crazy. lol

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Speaking of apologizing and moving on ...

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Reply #88 posted 07/20/11 10:16am

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SCNDLS said:

YOU misquote me and instead of acknowledging your mistake, apologizing, and moving on you got some more bullshit to say??? Absolutely crazy. lol

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Speaking of apologizing and moving on ...

What do I need to apologize for? You came at me being all extra out of left field for something I DID NOT say and your response was to ratchet shit up a notch for no good reason. But whatever rolleyes

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Reply #89 posted 07/20/11 10:17am

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SCNDLS said:

allsmutaside said:

Speaking of apologizing and moving on ...

What do I need to apologize for? You came at me being all extra out of left field for something I DID NOT say and your response was to ratchet shit up a notch for no good reason. But whatever rolleyes

You need to apolgize for behaving like a chump, plain and simple.

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