Another new song from Van Hunt called
"The Savage Sincere L of P" You can download it for free here ... http://www.pastemagazine....-of-p.html

The demo for this song has been kicking around few a while now... But now we have the compeleted version.

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Excelente! Initializing download.

Thanks........

Identity said:

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Excelente! Initializing download.

I love this cover. weird, but cool.

Thanks!

*listening to it now*

Sounds... different. Am definately intrigued by this album. I loved his last two records so am looking forward to hearing the new one.

I'm over him.

I listened to June and this song but I'm not feeling them at all. I'm also infinitely annoyed by how he titles his songs. Hope the album is good as a whole.

I'm really excited for this album! Van Hunt's album are always moving in a different direction then that last album. He keeps going more into his own sound.. Can't wait for September!

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I love this mutherfucker.

The first chord progression and I said "Oh, c'mon man! How many times

are we going to hear I-IIIb-IIb-I"?

And then he took it to outer space.

He's a knack for interesting - no, smart

progressions - he's knows his theory apparently. Well,

I actually know that he knows his theory (that story remains personal).

Listen at 41secs-45secs at how he brings the listener back from

the jazzier stuff going on; yeah, it's a generic songwriting

progression but really smart to place it there.

He's a better songwriter than given credit and we're lucky

to have him now. In twenty years, they'll be asking why

he wasn't a bigger player in the game (cough*Arthur Lee*cough).

I heard this song like 3-4 years ago. It's changed up slightly, the bass and harpsichord is different.

Alej said:

I'm over him.

I listened to June and this song but I'm not feeling them at all. I'm also infinitely annoyed by how he titles his songs. Hope the album is good as a whole.

I know, I know he's a bit pretentious, but he's the only person that can get away with it with me

lyecry said:

Alej said:

I'm over him.

I listened to June and this song but I'm not feeling them at all. I'm also infinitely annoyed by how he titles his songs. Hope the album is good as a whole.

I know, I know he's a bit pretentious, but he's the only person that can get away with it with me

A bit is an understatement.

But yes, his music is very good. I just hope that he delivers a solid album that overshadows the pretense.

lyecry said:

Alej said:

I'm over him.

I listened to June and this song but I'm not feeling them at all. I'm also infinitely annoyed by how he titles his songs. Hope the album is good as a whole.

I know, I know he's a bit pretentious, but he's the only person that can get away with it with me

I have a different take on this post (which I think is interesting):

Van Hunt is not pretentious (in what sense are you using the word?). He's smart and he's uniquely creative. These qualities in the midst of bland, vapid, unoriginal and dumb ass songwriting could possibly strike someone as being 'pretentious'.

In fact, none of you either Alej or lyecry are using the word 'pretense' or 'pretentious' accurately. Go look 'em up and then holler at me.

duccichucka said:

lyecry said:

I know, I know he's a bit pretentious, but he's the only person that can get away with it with me

I have a different take on this post (which I think is interesting):

Van Hunt is not pretentious (in what sense are you using the word?). He's smart and he's uniquely creative. These qualities in the midst of bland, vapid, unoriginal and dumb ass songwriting could possibly strike someone as being 'pretentious'.

In fact, none of you either Alej or lyecry are using the word 'pretense' or 'pretentious' accurately. Go look 'em up and then holler at me.

Completely agree.

For all the people in the music industry to be calling out and complaining about Van Hunt should be at the bottom of your list.

I wouldn't call him pretentious. A little leftfield perhaps, but leftfield in a good way, like Prince Dirty Mind era.

It's refreshing to hear someone doing something different and not pandering to the youth market. Back when Van Hunt was new on the scene and still signed to a major label it would've been very easy for him to collaborate with some flavour of the month producer and bring in a rent-a-rapper to get his songs played on the radios. I respect him for being one of the only black artists around today who hasn't done that. His music is as far away from the mainstream scene as you could possibly get. I don't think he's deliberately doing that to be pretentious, he just wants to make more experiemental sounds.

MattyJam said:

duccichucka said:

I have a different take on this post (which I think is interesting):

Van Hunt is not pretentious (in what sense are you using the word?). He's smart and he's uniquely creative. These qualities in the midst of bland, vapid, unoriginal and dumb ass songwriting could possibly strike someone as being 'pretentious'.

In fact, none of you either Alej or lyecry are using the word 'pretense' or 'pretentious' accurately. Go look 'em up and then holler at me.

Completely agree.

For all the people in the music industry to be calling out and complaining about Van Hunt should be at the bottom of your list.

I wouldn't call him pretentious. A little leftfield perhaps, but leftfield in a good way, like Prince Dirty Mind era.

It's refreshing to hear someone doing something different and not pandering to the youth market. Back when Van Hunt was new on the scene and still signed to a major label it would've been very easy for him to collaborate with some flavour of the month producer and bring in a rent-a-rapper to get his songs played on the radios. I respect him for being one of the only black artists around today who hasn't done that. His music is as far away from the mainstream scene as you could possibly get. I don't think he's deliberately doing that to be pretentious, he just wants to make more experiemental sounds.

You nailed it. I mean you absolutely nailed it, dude. Hunt is left-field and quirky. He's not churning out rehashed Stone, Mayfield, Nelson et al tunes - he's crafting music.

Pretentious means that he's (Hunt, in this case) either doing something that he is incapable of doing (which means that the onus of proving that is on the person making the claim) or that what he's doing deserves attention. Hunt has clearly shown us aurally and musically that he consistently writes and plays music he can pull off. Its an ambiguous word that is usually used (inaccurately) to mean that the person is 'arrogantly lofty" and that you do not like it (the work) or get it, so for the sake of coming across as naive, you claim it to be pretentious.

Beethoven's 9th's is pretentious because it demands our attention and Beethoven was capable of pulling off what he could do. Van Hunt playing a virtuoso guitar solo in the middle of "Dust" would be pretentious - he's incapable of doing so. Therefore his solo would come across as shallow and affected - he would be pretending or committing a false pretense.

There are far too many italicized words in this post - sorry. Do they work, by the way? Is the intended emphasis every clearly indicated?...

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I heard this song like 3-4 years ago. It's changed up slightly, the bass and harpsichord is different.

Just a remix............nothing more.

Graycap23 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I heard this song like 3-4 years ago. It's changed up slightly, the bass and harpsichord is different.

Just a remix............nothing more.

No.

What was out 3-4 years ago was a demo. This is the finsihed version.

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P2daP said:

Graycap23 said:

Just a remix............nothing more.

No.

What was out 3-4 years ago was a demo. This is the finsihed version.

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Okay..........

duccichucka said:

lyecry said:

I know, I know he's a bit pretentious, but he's the only person that can get away with it with me

I have a different take on this post (which I think is interesting):

Van Hunt is not pretentious (in what sense are you using the word?). He's smart and he's uniquely creative. These qualities in the midst of bland, vapid, unoriginal and dumb ass songwriting could possibly strike someone as being 'pretentious'.

In fact, none of you either Alej or lyecry are using the word 'pretense' or 'pretentious' accurately. Go look 'em up and then holler at me.

OMG...lol Now, I love me some Van as much as yall do. I have always thought that he had smart lyrics. And yes, he is a good musician. The "pretense" comes when it seems that he is trying to hard to be different or quirky when he naturally already is.

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lyecry said:

duccichucka said:

I have a different take on this post (which I think is interesting):

Van Hunt is not pretentious (in what sense are you using the word?). He's smart and he's uniquely creative. These qualities in the midst of bland, vapid, unoriginal and dumb ass songwriting could possibly strike someone as being 'pretentious'.

In fact, none of you either Alej or lyecry are using the word 'pretense' or 'pretentious' accurately. Go look 'em up and then holler at me.

OMG...lol Now, I love me some Van as much as yall do. I have always thought that he had smart lyrics. And yes, he is a good musician. The "pretense" comes when it seems that he is trying to hard to be different or quirky when he naturally already is.

Pretty much, yeah.

P2daP said:

Graycap23 said:

Just a remix............nothing more.

No.

What was out 3-4 years ago was a demo. This is the finsihed version.

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Cool, I actually liked the ndemo version better.

i'm just leaving a comment so I can follow this topic and it will show up in my org. thanks. interesting first few tracks

Alej said:

lyecry said:

OMG...lol Now, I love me some Van as much as yall do. I have always thought that he had smart lyrics. And yes, he is a good musician. The "pretense" comes when it seems that he is trying to hard to be different or quirky when he naturally already is.

Pretty much, yeah.

This is the most illogical post I've read on this board in quite some time!

Lyecry, so what you're saying is that he is trying too hard to be himself; that he is trying too

hard to transcend what he naturally already is?

That makes no sense.

If he is already quirky and left-field and tries harder to be who he already is (quirky and left-field), how is that a pretense? How is he pretending to do something he can't do when actually in doing it, he's doing what he naturally already is? How is he unable to do something he already is (doing) for the sake of doing what he already is doing in order to show that he actually is capable of doing what he is already doing?

Lol! C'mon guys! You're simply misusing the word! What you really want to say in this case, is that his music, in your opinion, has gotten quirkier and more left-field; that the fancy surface and high presentation of the music does not match the lower substance of the music; simply that and that you don't like it. How is a quirky dude putting on airs that he's a quirky dude? To put that on its head, even a quirky dude putting on airs that he is a quirky dude, makes him a quirky dude! He isn't doing something he isn't capable of doing!!!!

In order to claim one is pretentious (the grandiose and highly affected presentation does not match the low quality of the presentation's substance) you have to present evidence for your claim.

I wanna argue that Hunt is one of the most interesting songwriters in the past 20years but I've not the spirit nor time to back that shit up.

duccichucka said:

Alej said:

Pretty much, yeah.

This is the most illogical post I've read on this board in quite some time!

Lyecry, so what you're saying is that he is trying too hard to be himself; that he is trying too

hard to transcend what he naturally already is?

That makes no sense.

If he is already quirky and left-field and tries harder to be who he already is (quirky and left-field), how is that a pretense? How is he pretending to do something he can't do when actually in doing it, he's doing what he naturally already is? How is he unable to do something he already is (doing) for the sake of doing what he already is doing in order to show that he actually is capable of doing what he is already doing?

Lol! C'mon guys! You're simply misusing the word! What you really want to say in this case, is that his music, in your opinion, has gotten quirkier and more left-field; that the fancy surface and high presentation of the music does not match the lower substance of the music; simply that and that you don't like it. How is a quirky dude putting on airs that he's a quirky dude? To put that on its head, even a quirky dude putting on airs that he is a quirky dude, makes him a quirky dude! He isn't doing something he isn't capable of doing!!!!

In order to claim one is pretentious (the grandiose and highly affected presentation does not match the low quality of the presentation's substance) you have to present evidence for your claim.

I wanna argue that Hunt is one of the most interesting songwriters in the past 20years but I've not the spirit nor time to back that shit up.

Dude, whatever. I think he's pretentious, you don't, cool. Get over it.

Alej said:

duccichucka said:

This is the most illogical post I've read on this board in quite some time!

Lyecry, so what you're saying is that he is trying too hard to be himself; that he is trying too

hard to transcend what he naturally already is?

That makes no sense.

If he is already quirky and left-field and tries harder to be who he already is (quirky and left-field), how is that a pretense? How is he pretending to do something he can't do when actually in doing it, he's doing what he naturally already is? How is he unable to do something he already is (doing) for the sake of doing what he already is doing in order to show that he actually is capable of doing what he is already doing?

Lol! C'mon guys! You're simply misusing the word! What you really want to say in this case, is that his music, in your opinion, has gotten quirkier and more left-field; that the fancy surface and high presentation of the music does not match the lower substance of the music; simply that and that you don't like it. How is a quirky dude putting on airs that he's a quirky dude? To put that on its head, even a quirky dude putting on airs that he is a quirky dude, makes him a quirky dude! He isn't doing something he isn't capable of doing!!!!

In order to claim one is pretentious (the grandiose and highly affected presentation does not match the low quality of the presentation's substance) you have to present evidence for your claim.

I wanna argue that Hunt is one of the most interesting songwriters in the past 20years but I've not the spirit nor time to back that shit up.

Dude, whatever. I think he's pretentious, you don't, cool. Get over it.

Well, I already know that what you think isn't exactly pretentious, in the true sense of the word;

but I'm quite sure you naturally already know that you naturally already don't know that. You don't like it because you don't get it; just say that Alej and I'll respect your opinion more.

Ta-ta.

duccichucka said:

Alej said:

Dude, whatever. I think he's pretentious, you don't, cool. Get over it.

Well, I already know that what you think isn't exactly pretentious, in the true sense of the word;

but I'm quite sure you naturally already know that you naturally already don't know that. You don't like it because you don't get it; just say that Alej and I'll respect your opinion more.

Ta-ta.

Yes, whatever.

duccichucka said:

Alej said:

Pretty much, yeah.

This is the most illogical post I've read on this board in quite some time!

Lyecry, so what you're saying is that he is trying too hard to be himself; that he is trying too

hard to transcend what he naturally already is?

That makes no sense.

If he is already quirky and left-field and tries harder to be who he already is (quirky and left-field), how is that a pretense? How is he pretending to do something he can't do when actually in doing it, he's doing what he naturally already is? How is he unable to do something he already is (doing) for the sake of doing what he already is doing in order to show that he actually is capable of doing what he is already doing?

Lol! C'mon guys! You're simply misusing the word! What you really want to say in this case, is that his music, in your opinion, has gotten quirkier and more left-field; that the fancy surface and high presentation of the music does not match the lower substance of the music; simply that and that you don't like it. How is a quirky dude putting on airs that he's a quirky dude? To put that on its head, even a quirky dude putting on airs that he is a quirky dude, makes him a quirky dude! He isn't doing something he isn't capable of doing!!!!

In order to claim one is pretentious (the grandiose and highly affected presentation does not match the low quality of the presentation's substance) you have to present evidence for your claim.

I wanna argue that Hunt is one of the most interesting songwriters in the past 20years but I've not the spirit nor time to back that shit up.

I don't mind him being quirky. IMO and this just my opinion. Its like he's doing something to make him seem quirker than he already is. Maybe I should have phrased it as "prove his quirkyness". You know like that weird kid in high school that's already weird, but goes out their way to prove how weird they really are. You know like some art school student over doing it a bit. Just be natural, no need for all the extra. Like the guy mentioned the song title is a little 'extra' BUT NOTHING IS WRONG WITH THE SONG.

And the "pretentiousness" (sorry for the worng use of the word) I'm talking about is just something MINOR that I've noticed about him. Dosen't make me think less of him or his talent.

Nowhere did I say that I've disliked his songwriting or music. His lyrics are smart. I love it. His music has been the soundtrack of my last relationship. And Out of the Sky is my theme song.

Maybe I've used the word in the wrong way, but I know what I'm trying to say. Over thinking actions to prove you're different...what word should I use for that?

NOW since we both like his songwriting we can discuss that. Bring up a song let's chat.

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From Brooklyn Southpaw:

With his new What Were You Hoping For?, Van Hunt employs a spare but dizzyingly vibrant meld of day-glo psychedelic soul laced with glammed-up riffs and the acerbic energy of punk. A joint venture between the Nashville-based Thirty Tigers and Hunt’s own label, godless-hotspot, the album sees the Grammy-winning musician/songwriter/producer turning up the volume on his genre-smashing songcraft and the results are altogether gripping. From the breakneck “Watching You Go Crazy Is Driving Me Insane” and “A Time Machine Is My New Girlfriend” to the metallic k.o. of the album’s first single,“Eyes Like Pearls,” Hunt unleashes a sound that reverberates with caustic wit, passion, and the thrilling excitement of an artist operating at the peak of his powers. Careening with exhilarating intensity and frenetic, inventive musicality, What Were You Hoping For? is Van Hunt’s most daring and provocative work to date.

“I’m really excited about this record,” Hunt says. “I love the way it sounds. I’m nervous about the way it’ll be received, even by big Van Hunt fans, and I think that’s good. I want the record to be disruptive.”

Hunt both produced and played, with former drummer Ruthie Price his only accompaniment. Together they constructed a series of tracks radiating raw power and vivid color, later enlisting keyboardist/programmer Peter Dyer to “build a landscape of sound around the songs.” Hunt declares the record’s minimalist approach to be “musically adept but also stringently unique. People might describe it as futuristic.”

Hunt’s low-key line of attack only serves to further amplify his audacious songwriting, his lyrical eye for detail as sharp and quick as his camera. Songs like the meaty beaty “North Hollywood” or the beguiling title track crackle with all the dissonance and tension of modern life in the golden west.

“All of these elements are coming together to create this combustion,” Hunt says. “My experience of trying to live here and survive myself is really where this record was born.”

“We’re gonna play until we either make a lot of money or run out of it,” Hunt says. Hunt has returned to action invigorated and re-energized, his time in the wilderness spurring on his already ambitious sound and vision. What Were You Hoping For? marks a genuine milestone for Van Hunt, the moment in which this sonic adventurer lit out for territories all his own.

“I feel like I’ve finally shed the music that I grew up with,” he says. “I made a record that doesn’t sound like anything I’ve heard before.”