This thread has pretty much ran its course and her talked about on here has as well (which is a good thing imo). Sadly the album get’s old pretty fast hopefully her next album will be executed better I’m sure when she puts out another video someone will post it on here but a whole new thread for the album is not needed.
I did find this interview she did with pop justice which had some interesting parts in it I’ll post it and that will be the last thing I’ll post. It’s long though so I’m not posting the whole thing.
Part one
What sort of thing are people writing for you? What do they think Lady Gaga should sing about?
Boys and dicks. Cocks. Pussy. 'I'm in the club'. It's funny because there's not really one song on this album that's about any of that. There's no songs about getting drunk in a nightclub. 'Electric Chapel' is the closest. 'Government Hooker' is very filthy and sexual...But..There are no songs that are all 'ooh I want you in my bed', although they do feel very sexy. Very soulful, but not in a 'soul music' kind of way. I think people are now becoming slightly blind to the outfits and they're asking what the fuck's underneath it. And that's where this album comes in.
If you feel people are becoming blind to the outfits, does that make you want to make the outfits even bigger and more attention-grabbing, or do you see it as a signal that you can move away from the outfits?
It's more that I'm always a performance artist trying to more articulately relate my costume choices to my music. And that's what I'm really excited about. It's as if, well, 'Bad Romance' was great, 'Poker Face' was great, 'Love Game' was great, all these songs were great, but it wasn't until I wrote 'Born This Way' that I realised how culturally unrelatable my music had been before. I learned something so very valuable about myself putting that record [the 'Born This Way' single] out, and it's that I've done absolutely nothing to change the world - zero - until now. It made me realise I had so much to do, but that's wonderful for me. I don't know how to explain it any other way than to say that it felt like I'd opened a door to myself that I didn't know was there. I thought I'd already shaken the world up and I only realised when I put out 'Born This Way' that I hadn't started to shake the world up at all. It was like resetting my...Does this make any sense?
Well I understand how you might say that you think 'Born This Way' is lyrically the most important thing you've done. But what about beyond the lyrics? So does the importance you feel in the lyrics, does that importance win out over the melody of 'Bad Romance'? Do the lyrics being 'important' make it a better pop song?
No, it's completely different. 'Bad Romance' as a song was amazing and is amazing and had this giant cultural impact where it was big on YouTube and everyone learned the dance moves and made the costumes and everything. Right? 'Bad Romance' didn't piss anybody off, at al. Maybe it pissed off a couple of [other] artists, but it didn't piss off any actual people. It was just a really great pop song. This ['Born This Way'] was the first time that an outfit wasn't what pissed people off about me. Do you know how exciting that is for someone like me? The only thing that made me controversial before was the fact that my show had no heel. Suddenly, I put out 'Born This Way', the lyrics were really literal, and there was a huge backlash in the United States. Suddenly I'm not controversial because of my shoes, or controversial because of my clothes. I'm controversial because of my music.
But why did you want to piss people off?
It's not about pissing them off, it's about shaking them UP. It's the cultural shitstorm. There's a difference between being a cultural shitstorm based on artistry and style, and being a cultural shitstorm based on the message you're conveying. 'Born This Way' created a cultural shitstorm that is completely different from the cultural shitstorm 'Bad Romance' created. And what I didn't want to do is give you 'Bad Romance 2.0'. 'Judas' might be 'Bad Romance 7.0', yes, but I'm not going to give that to you first. First, I'm going to show you I'm capable of creating a different sort of shitstorm. But even I didn't know that [before 'Born This Way' came out]. I thought it was going to part of the same shitstorm. Until I saw what occurred. 'Who does she think she is?' I mean the gay community was like 'who does she think she is speaking for us'. (Starting to shout a bit) The shitstorm that occurred was so massive and it was the first time that I was viewed controversially because of my music.
Well one way of looking at that is that you doing something right, because you got a reaction out of people. If you've done a song about equal rights and right wing people don't like it then perhaps you've done your job. But if the gay community is also going 'piss off', then has it still done its job?
Of course it has. I had an eleven-year-old boy come up to me after the show yesterday, crying. And he said, "'Born This Way' is my favourite song'. It's a triumph. It's a song that asks people to look inside themselves, even if they don't like it: 'why am I angry about this song?'. If you're already free, what's the problem? Is it because you don't want me to define your freedom? Is it because you don't want me to represent you? Is it because you don't believe that the kids who are eleven years old aren't still dealing with the social situations you dealt with in the 70s? I have twelve and sixteen-year-olds going, 'free me - when I go to school I'm being bullied. Help'. And I'm like, 'okay, this record's for you'. And that's it.
Did 'Born This Way' have to sell in order to be a success? Usually artists insisted that it's wrong to gauge a song based on its sales but if the point of 'Born This Way' was to spread a message then it needed to be huge in order to culturally important, right?
What you're saying is absolutely true...I want you to know how I think about music. Help me help myself when I'm explaining this to you. There's a lot of really shitty songs that are Number One for long periods of time in lots of countries. But I know that Gaga fans who are 11 year olds now will remember 'Born This Way' in thirty years.
The logic at the heart of the 'God makes no mistakes' line in 'Born This Way' was, of course, infuriating to anti-gay religious groups...
Oh please of COURSE it is! If you don't believe in anything it's massively annoying because it's like, 'who the fuck are you to press your religious beliefs on me?', but anyone who believes - and this is mostly in America...Well there are a lot of people who believe that when God is mad he shakes the earth, and I don't believe that. Well to say God makes no mistakes, it takes the knife away from all those who are prejudiced and religious. And that's why I did it.
Did you worry about the repercussions of that sort of line?
There were a lot of people who came into this room [the recording studio] who said, 'are you sure you want the word "God" in the song?'. And I said, 'yes'. The point is not for me to say what God is, the point is the make you look into yourself and to ask yourself, 'if there is a being in the sky or wherever who you believe created all of this, does he make mistakes?'. You can either believe or not believe, either way the song frees you. If you were born this way and are atheist, you were still born this way.
It seems like you feel you've cracked the code to get to the next level of your career. I mean if you didn't feel that you were moving on, well, we'd probably still be sitting here talking about your new album, but I wonder what you'd be saying instead?
If I'd released any song other than 'Born This Way' first, everyone would have said, 'oh, she gave us another "Bad Romance" and lots of shiny clothes and dance moves in the video'. I had to do something that reflected the growth of the fan base and the inspiration of the fans. And we got way more than we bargained for. We exposed the cultural situation that is so important...I can't even begin to tell you - Don't Ask Don't Tell being repealed just as the album was being made, Obama's anti bullying campaign...All this stuff is happening, in America that's all centred on saving young people's lives because of how they're treated in school. And that was the absolute whole point of the song.
There's another song about Mary on the album, isn't there?
Yes, 'Bloody Mary'. I'm very fascinated by her.
Why?
Because when I was young and I went to Catholic school - an all girls school - we were told to pray to God and pray to Jesus, but I always prayed to women. I guess I always worshipped a more feminine force in my life and I didn't view God as having a particular gender. I always either prayed to Mother Mary or Mary Magdelene, or to my father's sister Joanne who had died when he was a kid because I viewed her as an angel in the sky in the house of the Kingdom working alongside God. You know, watching over me. It must be so big up there. A lot of people. So I always prayed to women and that's the thing that I look to now to make me strong in this very unique situation that is being a pop signer. I always pray to Mary and to Joanne. It's very sad that in those [Biblical] times women were stoned for adultery or for doing inappropriate things. Women were always the target, so I guess I looked to my past and my faith to find bravery in myself. So on this record I thought a lot about my faith and tried to channel a lot of that into myself, and so make myself brave.
So the lyrics are Mary sort of talking...If you listen to the lyrics and the way the cadence goes, the way I'm actually singing, I start quite sweetly then I go into these quite demonic tones, then I come back to sweetness, and then the chorus is me ultimately, publicly singing, 'I won't cry for you, I won't crucify the things you do, I won't cry for you when you're gone I'll still be Bloody Mary'. I'll still bleed, is what I'm trying to say. I guess I'm fascinated by her - like I said, I worshipped women in my religion as a young girl - and in my belief Mary was in it all along. I think she knew what was going to happen. But I also believe that she loved him, and I believe there was a moment when she cried. So she says 'I won't cry for you' but in the rest of the song, in the way that it feels, it's sad and quite...Dirgic? Is that the right word? Like a death dirge...There's that kind of quality to it. It's about me having to be a superstar.
It feels like the 'Hair' / 'Road to Love' / 'The Edge of Glory' sound is like the heart or the blueprint or whatever of the album and the rest of it is draped around it...It feels like the experience of listening to this album is completely different to the experience of listening to the 'The Fame Monster', just like 'The Fame Monster' was different to 'The Fame'.
Well, isn't it nice to play 'Abbey Road' next to 'Sergeant Pepper'? You know, when you go back - not to liken myself to The Beatles but if I'm going to try to become anything then I should go for the most legendary band of all time - The Beatles sound completely different between those two albums, but if it wasn't for those two being different, 'Sergeant Pepper' being completely revolutionary and everyone hating it when it first came out, we wouldn't love The Beatles like we love them today. The took a tremendous risk with that album. Anyway, my point is, I think it's the evolution of me as an artist that people will be able to believe in me more as a true artist. And it's that evolution which will also secure my longevity. (Pauses) I wanted to say something else! You say that 'Hair' is the blueprint, the hall mark of your exploration of the album, right? However, how disappointing would it be if every song was exactly the same? I could go through every song and have all of those specific elements, but I very specifically have not done that because I want the album to be a journey and I want the whole experience of the journey to be like this. So there will be moments when it will peak - like with 'Edge of Glory' which is a major techno rock moment, and with 'Hair' but there will also be moments like 'Bloody Mary'.
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