Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

The mix was done in 1988, but the song was originally done in 1985 or 1986

There's more songs that were recorded for the album. Come Together is from the original 1985 sessions (sans Quincy Jones)

Yeah I thought that was off. Probably was a Bad outtake then he finished it in 1988 but left it alone I guess.

they felt it wasn't "hitting the mark" so Michael let Bottrell work on it while he was on tour and then Bill would send the tapes to Michael for feedback if I remember correctly

From the information I have gathered, Streetwalker was completed before BAD was released. It didn't make the final cut and may have been worked on further when MJ went on the BAD Tour.

And as for other BAD outtakes, I know there was an article about a song called Apocalypse Now that was worked on. Another song was ready called The Price of Fame. And there's another demo called What You Do To Me and Tomboy. It's also possible Buffalo Bill was worked on for BAD as well. No clue if Groove Of Midnight was ever recorded past the early demo stage. That was a Temperton track that went to Garrett. I think it was pretty much decided Temperton's sound didn't fit with the album and by this time, MJ was branching out and doing his own thing. I don't have all my notes in front of me, just thinking out loud..

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I thought that was off. Probably was a Bad outtake then he finished it in 1988 but left it alone I guess.

they felt it wasn't "hitting the mark" so Michael let Bottrell work on it while he was on tour and then Bill would send the tapes to Michael for feedback if I remember correctly

I see...

I'm sure this has been brought up here before but since I'm kinda new, I'll post it anyway... The early demo of Dangerous rips off Streetwalker. Riley was brought in and created a whole new "floor" to Dangerous. Listening to both versions you can tell what that means.

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

According to Bill Botrell, Streetwalker was recorded in 1988, after the Bad album.

Fly Away was an outtake also

The mix was done in 1988, but the song was originally done in 1985 or 1986

There's more songs that were recorded for the album. Come Together is from the original 1985 sessions (sans Quincy Jones)

Streetwalker might have a very early demo but the one that was released was recorded in 1988 according to Bill

But we all know how Michael is with music. For example, they mentioned how MJ brought in a guitarist and recorded "Much Too Soon" during the HIStory sessions, not knowing that he wrote that song back in 1981. According to them, he gave no impression that the song was already written years prior

Derek1984 said:

From the information I have gathered, Streetwalker was completed before BAD was released. It didn't make the final cut and may have been worked on further when MJ went on the BAD Tour.

And as for other BAD outtakes, I know there was an article about a song called Apocalypse Now that was worked on. Another song was ready called The Price of Fame. And there's another demo called What You Do To Me and Tomboy. It's also possible Buffalo Bill was worked on for BAD as well. No clue if Groove Of Midnight was ever recorded past the early demo stage. That was a Temperton track that went to Garrett. I think it was pretty much decided Temperton's sound didn't fit with the album and by this time, MJ was branching out and doing his own thing. I don't have all my notes in front of me, just thinking out loud..

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I think Groove of Midnight was recorded, Just listen to Garrett's version of the song , you can hear MJ at the very end of the song ............Listen Carefully you will hear MJ at the end

Not a big deal that the Dangerous demo is like Streetwalker, a lot of writers turn to their own rough ideas for inspiration and may take a thing or two and use it. I do find it interesting it was completed after 1987 though, it does sound very 1988 to me now that you mention it.

And now that takes me to Cheater, do you really believe it was completed for Bad? Even though I hear it and I know the bass from it is what was used in live performances of Shake Your Body Down to the ground in the Bad tour, it sounds like it was completed after 1987. I played Cheater for a friend who's a big fan that doesn't go on forums when Ultimate Collection came out, and he said it sounds timeless that it could have fit into HIStory era too, I found that interesting

Derek1984 said:

I'm sure this has been brought up here before but since I'm kinda new, I'll post it anyway... The early demo of Dangerous rips off Streetwalker. Riley was brought in and created a whole new "floor" to Dangerous. Listening to both versions you can tell what that means.

In the Dangerous court case MJ stated that the bass from Streetwalker was used as the basis for the initial demo version of Dangerous - it was intentional as MJ really liked the groove and wanted to see if it could have a new life.

Personally I always felt Streetwalker sounded too similar to TWYMMF to be included on BAD.

^ He knew that too, which is why the intro was used in the beginning of TWYMMF performances

alphastreet said:

^ He knew that too, which is why the intro was used in the beginning of TWYMMF performances

The first time I heard that intro - the whoo hoo, whoo hoooo - was at the BAD tour when it was used as the intro to Heartbreak Hotel.

Swa said:

alphastreet said:

^ He knew that too, which is why the intro was used in the beginning of TWYMMF performances

The first time I heard that intro - the whoo hoo, whoo hoooo - was at the BAD tour when it was used as the intro to Heartbreak Hotel.

actually that's where I first heard it too on the Legend Continues tape, but in a different scale. I heard it more clearly in TWYMMF at the Grammys which happened a few months after the launch of the tour

you said AT the Bad tour? you went?

alphastreet said:

Swa said:

The first time I heard that intro - the whoo hoo, whoo hoooo - was at the BAD tour when it was used as the intro to Heartbreak Hotel.

actually that's where I first heard it too on the Legend Continues tape, but in a different scale. I heard it more clearly in TWYMMF at the Grammys which happened a few months after the launch of the tour

you said AT the Bad tour? you went?

Yes, saw BAD in Melbourne, Australia in 1987.

Was first in line for tickets for Dangerous in Australia, but on the morning they cancelled the sale and tour.

HIStory x 2 in Melbourne, x 2 in Sydney, Australia 1996

Sadly had ticket for This Is It x 3 nights in London

Wow lucky you! I remember Australian coverage of the HIStory tour on TV cause of him marrying Debbie and taping all that

The closest I got was having tickets to two shows at the o2, and I had chances to go to Indiana and Montreal in 2003 to see him, but regret not going now cause I kept insisting I would just travel if it were for a concert though I wasn't sure if he would ever do one again or not that time, and it almost happened!

alphastreet said:

Wow lucky you! I remember Australian coverage of the HIStory tour on TV cause of him marrying Debbie and taping all that

The closest I got was having tickets to two shows at the o2, and I had chances to go to Indiana and Montreal in 2003 to see him, but regret not going now cause I kept insisting I would just travel if it were for a concert though I wasn't sure if he would ever do one again or not that time, and it almost happened!

I know how you feel. I was tempted to go to the 2001 NY shows, but decided not to based on I wasn't 100% sure what the shows would be like and decided I would be gutted if I flew all that way and the shows were cancelled.

My next MJ journey will be flying to Vancouver in November to see 2 Cirque Shows.

I was going to see two cirque shows, but had to give one up, I got to keep the show with the closer seats

I wanted to go to NYC so badly for MSG cause I'm not very far from the US border, but I knew I would not be able to. I was still practically a kid. Finishing up high school, not enough money, and so on. But I was hopeful he would do more shows and that I could move out to campus and then go off for them that way None of that happened at all.

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Never got to see MJ in concert. Had tickets to This Is It. I have tickets for opening night of cirque in Montreal.

I'm going to one of the Toronto shows for cirque.

And all my life, I got high off the thought of seeing MJ in person and it was finally going to happen when I scored my o2 tickets for September. It seemed like everything was set up like having enough money for it, and wanting to go to London anyways for the past few years and having the chance and happening to have relatives there I could stay with and friends from here happening to go there to do their graduate programs so I would have plenty of things to do there. I know it sounds selfish, but I lead a stressful life for years and seeing MJ being my high when I was at my worst just before his death was like having the carpet pulled from under me though if we knew what he was going through with the insomnia, I wouldn't have wanted him to do it. We just had no clue and though I accepted he may not tour again, when he said he was, I wanted to believe so badly he was ready.

Now I realize I just have addictive traits and that there are other ways to "feel high"...chemical free of course

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

but are we lying tho? I mean, if you really watch his videos, some of them make you go WTF!

Questions never answered:

Where was he in the Don't Stop Til You Get Enough video? A pinball machine?

Where was he going in Billie Jean? WHAT WAS THE ACTUAL STORYLINE? When he disappeared, where did he go?

Where all dancers in the Bad video go after the video went back to black and white? If you think about it, the Bad short film could've been edited a bit better

Smooth Criminal leaves so many plot holes I'd have to make a list for them

I think Don't Stop is like inside a Crystal Ball or marble

Where did he go in Billie Jean? He ended up on the bed in Beat It didn't he?

http://mymjjtribute.tumblr.com

found on tumblr.. nice pix, gifs

What do you all think?

"The Drill" dance sequence featuring Omer Bhatti

ViintageJunkiie said:

What do you all think?

"The Drill" dance sequence featuring Omer Bhatti

Absolutely not.

ViintageJunkiie said:

What do you all think?

"The Drill" dance sequence featuring Omer Bhatti

Lawd, the drill is gonna become like Thriller with everybody tryin' to do it

Michael Jackson holds the Guinness World Record for the longest span of US Top 40 singles = 39 years and 2 months

He first charted on the Billboard Hot 100 on November 6, 1971 with "Got To Be There" and last with "Hold My Hand" on January 1, 2011.

https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson

bboy87 said:

Michael Jackson holds the Guinness World Record for the longest span of US Top 40 singles = 39 years and 2 months

He first charted on the Billboard Hot 100 on November 6, 1971 with "Got To Be There" and last with "Hold My Hand" on January 1, 2011.

https://www.facebook.com/michaeljackson

^ Looking at that again, I'm reminded of when Marvin Gaye, though they never mentioned it in their books I don't think, had the longest span (and that was 38 years and some months between October 1962 and July 2001) when he was included as a featured vocalist (or sampled) in "Music" by Erick Sermon so it looks like Michael bested it.

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

What do you all think?

"The Drill" dance sequence featuring Omer Bhatti

Lawd, the drill is gonna become like Thriller with everybody tryin' to do it

I KNOW RIGHT!

*quietly goes to delete my video of me doing it*

My Hello World collection arrived earlier than I thought.

ONLY1DARKCHILD Rodney Jerkins I think im gonna create something on my site called the The Lost Sessions so people can hear songs that never seen the light of the day.

bncaddell Brandon N. Caddell In the studio with the big homie's

@ONLY1DARKCHILD @BIGSHIZ going thru the archive of DARKCHILD listening to unreleased Greatness...!!!

ONLY1DARKCHILD Rodney Jerkins In the studio w/ @BigShiz listening to #DARKCHILD records that yall never heard. Brandy, Usher, Mj, Biggie, Jay Z, Destiny's Child, etc... http://twitter.com/#!/ONLY1DARKCHILD/

Can he jerkins put out jackson tracks without the permission of the estate/ sony ?

motownlover said:

ONLY1DARKCHILD Rodney Jerkins I think im gonna create something on my site called the The Lost Sessions so people can hear songs that never seen the light of the day.

bncaddell Brandon N. Caddell In the studio with the big homie's

@ONLY1DARKCHILD @BIGSHIZ going thru the archive of DARKCHILD listening to unreleased Greatness...!!!

ONLY1DARKCHILD Rodney Jerkins In the studio w/ @BigShiz listening to #DARKCHILD records that yall never heard. Brandy, Usher, Mj, Biggie, Jay Z, Destiny's Child, etc... http://twitter.com/#!/ONLY1DARKCHILD/

Can he jerkins put out jackson tracks without the permission of the estate/ sony ?

I for one hope he does...if they don't agree to put the songs on the album and give him a royalty cut but I think Rodney may check to see if they try to "mess with it" lol

For those of you who have no problem watching him and looking at him, I'm struggling again

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKepJbCy9C8&feature=related [/youtube]