I was on Twitter and there were people "Right on Nikki! Props for being brave enough to make those comments"

WHAT?! Nikki didn't make comments about equality laws or the seperation between church and state. He made a comment about a man who's been deceased for 2 years. That's brave in 2011? That's what's hot in the streets these days?

Swa said:

Sadly an irrelevant comment by a no longer relevant musician.

Now back to the music....

you're right Swa, I think we should ignore crap like that from now on and keep it moving

this tool was relevant? I thought he was a newbie

bboy87 said:

I was on Twitter and there were people "Right on Nikki! Props for being brave enough to make those comments"

WHAT?! Nikki didn't make comments about equality laws or the seperation between church and state. He made a comment about a man who's been deceased for 2 years. That's brave in 2011? That's what's hot in the streets these days?

No that's Twitter.

bboy87 said:

Swa said:

Sadly an irrelevant comment by a no longer relevant musician.

Now back to the music....

you're right Swa, I think we should ignore crap like that from now on and keep it moving

Exactly.

And now some fun...

^ Lol I loved that! That was great, thanks Swa!

So, looks like Michael's children are into making their own movies, which isnt really a big surprise since Prince was always interested in filmmaking and Paris wants to be an actress. MJ3 and their cousins made a home movie and posted it online:

http://parisjackson-love....7592307527

Saddened by the tragic passing of Michael Jackson, lontgtime friend and legendary sound engineer Bruce Swedien comments the release of the book:

“There might be one or two songs that didn’t make it from each album. But they’re not finished. There aren’t vocals for everything. (...) [One of my favorite songs] is “Don’t Be Messin’ Around.” Michael plays piano on it, and it’s just beautiful. Oh my god, there’s nothing like it.”

I'd love to hear this track.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Saddened by the tragic passing of Michael Jackson, lontgtime friend and legendary sound engineer Bruce Swedien comments the release of the book:

“There might be one or two songs that didn’t make it from each album. But they’re not finished. There aren’t vocals for everything. (...) [One of my favorite songs] is “Don’t Be Messin’ Around.” Michael plays piano on it, and it’s just beautiful. Oh my god, there’s nothing like it.”

I'd love to hear this track.

I think this track will eventually be released but I just have no faith in the Estate to release it properly. Instead of releasing it as it was left, they will probably F with it.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Saddened by the tragic passing of Michael Jackson, lontgtime friend and legendary sound engineer Bruce Swedien comments the release of the book:

“There might be one or two songs that didn’t make it from each album. But they’re not finished. There aren’t vocals for everything. (...) [One of my favorite songs] is “Don’t Be Messin’ Around.” Michael plays piano on it, and it’s just beautiful. Oh my god, there’s nothing like it.”

I'd love to hear this track.

Me, too.

dag said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

I'd love to hear this track.

Me, too.

Me three!

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

I've long hoped there would be an official release of outtakes from his Epic days.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

I've long hoped there would be an official release of outtakes from his Epic days.

They need to create a box set instead of releasing a series of posthumous albums like they plan to do. Release a box set and release every outtake, demo, etc. Label the different eras too. 1976-1979, 1980-1985, 1985-1990, 1990-1993, 1993-1997, 1997-2001, 2001-2004, 2004-2009. Just get it all out there at once. That will make a heck of a lot of money. Imagine all the fans who would rush out to get that.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

I've long hoped there would be an official release of outtakes from his Epic days.

They need to create a box set instead of releasing a series of posthumous albums like they plan to do. Release a box set and release every outtake, demo, etc. Label the different eras too. 1976-1979, 1980-1985, 1985-1990, 1990-1993, 1993-1997, 1997-2001, 2001-2004, 2004-2009. Just get it all out there at once. That will make a heck of a lot of money. Imagine all the fans who would rush out to get that.

Thank you. The Estate should do this. And leave everything as it was left. Still waiting to hear that 1982 mix of Behind The Mask.

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

This might make sense because Streetwalker was a final cut. But I would assume some of the demos are close to being finished and there probably are bunch of them, especially for BAD. The PYT and TGIM demos sound almost finished.

This topic is frustrating to me because I want to hear these unreleased songs bad but there's no way of interacting with the Estate and no way of knowing their plans. I really wish they would just release everything in a box set. I don't care if they are only demos, I want to hear them. Outtakes with The Jacksons need to be included as well. How long do they really plan on stretching what they have? It's frustrating.

Derek1984 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

This might make sense because Streetwalker was a final cut. But I would assume some of the demos are close to being finished and there probably are bunch of them, especially for BAD. The PYT and TGIM demos sound almost finished.

This topic is frustrating to me because I want to hear these unreleased songs bad but there's no way of interacting with the Estate and no way of knowing their plans. I really wish they would just release everything in a box set. I don't care if they are only demos, I want to hear them. Outtakes with The Jacksons need to be included as well. How long do they really plan on stretching what they have? It's frustrating.

Amen. I mean - come on. The Michael album sucked. Everything about it - minus a couple of okay songs - was awful. What they need to do is release a whole boxset. Hold nothing back and just give it all to us. And exclude the Casio tracks. We don't need anymore problems.

And the Estate NEEDS to get the Will.I.Am tracks. Like Will's music or not, I think these are the BEST of what's unreleased and they were meant for the new album.

If the Estate wants to rework songs, that fine... As long as they still give us the versions as they were left. - Put your ego aside McClain.

Derek1984 said:

And the Estate NEEDS to get the Will.I.Am tracks. Like Will's music or not, I think these are the BEST of what's unreleased and they were meant for the new album.

If the Estate wants to rework songs, that fine... As long as they still give us the versions as they were left. - Put your ego aside McClain.

I'm itching for those Will tracks. I've always felt that they'll be killer.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Derek1984 said:

And the Estate NEEDS to get the Will.I.Am tracks. Like Will's music or not, I think these are the BEST of what's unreleased and they were meant for the new album.

If the Estate wants to rework songs, that fine... As long as they still give us the versions as they were left. - Put your ego aside McClain.

I'm itching for those Will tracks. I've always felt that they'll be killer.

The Future and I'm Dreamin'... The next major hits from MJ.

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

According to Bill Botrell, Streetwalker was recorded in 1988, after the Bad album.

Fly Away was an outtake also

ViintageJunkiie said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

According to Bill Botrell, Streetwalker was recorded in 1988, after the Bad album.

Fly Away was an outtake also

That would mean Streetwalker was a Dangerous outtake then?

ViintageJunkiie said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

According to Bill Botrell, Streetwalker was recorded in 1988, after the Bad album.

Fly Away was an outtake also

Well I got the above info from Bruce Swedian so...

smoothcriminal12 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

According to Bill Botrell, Streetwalker was recorded in 1988, after the Bad album.

Fly Away was an outtake also

Well I got the above info from Bruce Swedian so...

Oh Lord...

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Well I got the above info from Bruce Swedian so...

Oh Lord...

Wait, no it wasn't. That wasn't from Bruce. Nevermind.

smoothcriminal12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Oh Lord...

Wait, no it wasn't. That wasn't from Bruce. Nevermind.

ViintageJunkiie said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

There needs to be more outtakes and demos coming out. Apparently Streetwalker was the only official outtake recorded for Bad and everything else was just demos.

According to Bill Botrell, Streetwalker was recorded in 1988, after the Bad album.

Fly Away was an outtake also

The mix was done in 1988, but the song was originally done in 1985 or 1986

There's more songs that were recorded for the album. Come Together is from the original 1985 sessions (sans Quincy Jones)

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

According to Bill Botrell, Streetwalker was recorded in 1988, after the Bad album.

Fly Away was an outtake also

The mix was done in 1988, but the song was originally done in 1985 or 1986

There's more songs that were recorded for the album. Come Together is from the original 1985 sessions (sans Quincy Jones)

Yeah I thought that was off. Probably was a Bad outtake then he finished it in 1988 but left it alone I guess.