sunlite said:

Junie was a genius! The fact that he was all over the place was what made him sound unique. A hit does not = good music, just popularity. His 70's solo output was abstract funk for sure and not for everyone, but he did what he wanted. The hits came through his stnts with Op and P-Funk. The nastiest OP stuff is from their Junie era. "Ecstacy" and "Pain" being the examples of this. He made P-Funk hit when they started slipping. Yeah he needs his own Unsung episode!

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WORD!!!!!!

Junie has influenced MORE Cats than U know in this "Biz-Ness"!!!!!!

Shaolin325 said:

Timmy84 said:

I will.

Thanks!

you can see it heah

http://www.tvoneonline.co..._remix.flv

I am THRILLED someone finally put out a documentary about my FAVORITE group of all time.

The Ohio Players were and still are unmatched. Their funky style, lyrics and blatant sexy covers are clearly the platform to why many of us are on this Prince site right now.

Sugar IS THE MAN! Each member of the group formed a great collective that can't be match but seriously..... Sugar IS The Ohio Players. When I see them come to town, I need his voice that's it!!

I'm so glad he is doing well after 2 strokes. God Bless! He speaks wonderfully and that voice... Whew..that's the aphrodisiac for a romantic evening. :kisses:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Are the Ohop Players Rock and Roll Hall of Famers. Yes or Noo?

I think they should be. Maybe not headliners, but an induction most definitely.

daytonohioplayer said:

daytonohioplayer said:

Yeah, when my dude told me, I was floored. He is actually one of the dudes on the Unsung special. He told me over lunch when he was in Dayton. Hell Diamond wanted to get paid too, but when they told him we already got Sugar and Marshall, I guess he came aboard.

Well hell I might as well let the cat out of the bag. Scott Brown, who was on the Unsung special, and is a professor at UCLA, is doing a book on the Dayton funk. The book is in the final stages. He is coming back to Dayton soon to finish it. He is bring a photographer from Japan to take pictures. When talking specifically about the Players, I asked why they fizzled. He basically said they same gangster, pimp persona that made them was the same thing that took them out. Made sense. I asked him based on his research, why did the Dayton scene just die. Simply put there wasnt a Berry Gordy or a Dick Griffey to run the scene. The mob was running these Dayton groups. Groups getting paid with drugs, cash, hoes and cars and not paying attention to the paperwork.

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

funkpill said:

Shaolin325 said:

Thanks!

you can see it heah

http://www.tvoneonline.co..._remix.flv

THANKS FUNKPILL!!!

Paris9748430 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Are the Ohop Players Rock and Roll Hall of Famers. Yes or Noo?

I think they should be. Maybe not headliners, but an induction most definitely.

It's only what 4 black bands in the Rock hall. P-Funk, EWF, Isleys and Sly/Family Stone. You can count James Brown, but I don't think any of his sidemen were inducted (except with P-Funk, lol)

phunkdaddy said:

daytonohioplayer said:

Well hell I might as well let the cat out of the bag. Scott Brown, who was on the Unsung special, and is a professor at UCLA, is doing a book on the Dayton funk. The book is in the final stages. He is coming back to Dayton soon to finish it. He is bring a photographer from Japan to take pictures. When talking specifically about the Players, I asked why they fizzled. He basically said they same gangster, pimp persona that made them was the same thing that took them out. Made sense. I asked him based on his research, why did the Dayton scene just die. Simply put there wasnt a Berry Gordy or a Dick Griffey to run the scene. The mob was running these Dayton groups. Groups getting paid with drugs, cash, hoes and cars and not paying attention to the paperwork.

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

That was Lester Troutman

HuMpThAnG said:

phunkdaddy said:

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

That was Lester Troutman

Thanks. Always get them two mixed up.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Paris9748430 said:

I think they should be. Maybe not headliners, but an induction most definitely.

It's only what 4 black bands in the Rock hall. P-Funk, EWF, Isleys and Sly/Family Stone. You can count James Brown, but I don't think any of his sidemen were inducted (except with P-Funk, lol)

This excludes vocal groups like The Temptations or Jackson Five, right?

sosgemini said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

It's only what 4 black bands in the Rock hall. P-Funk, EWF, Isleys and Sly/Family Stone. You can count James Brown, but I don't think any of his sidemen were inducted (except with P-Funk, lol)

This excludes vocal groups like The Temptations or Jackson Five, right?

Yes. Even if you include the vocal groups, it's just a few more like the norm Dells, Tempts, Tops, J5 and O'Jays.

phunkdaddy said:

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

Yeah that comment made me Yup it was some homer-ism going on with that statement by Lester

Abdul said:

phunkdaddy said:

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

Yeah that comment made me Yup it was some homer-ism going on with that statement by Lester

He might have a point?

to each their own i guess, but how can ya seriously fake this funk ? smh lol

^ Least Junie's in the Hall of Fame with P-Funk. Maybe if the Ohio guys get in, he'll be a second-time inductee. That is if they think of inducting them.

Timmy84 said:

^ Least Junie's in the Hall of Fame with P-Funk. Maybe if the Ohio guys get in, he'll be a second-time inductee. That is if they think of inducting them.

that's the ticket and also wanna thank daytonohioplayer for sharing his valuable info about what went on in the behind the scenes

phunkdaddy said:

daytonohioplayer said:

Well hell I might as well let the cat out of the bag. Scott Brown, who was on the Unsung special, and is a professor at UCLA, is doing a book on the Dayton funk. The book is in the final stages. He is coming back to Dayton soon to finish it. He is bring a photographer from Japan to take pictures. When talking specifically about the Players, I asked why they fizzled. He basically said they same gangster, pimp persona that made them was the same thing that took them out. Made sense. I asked him based on his research, why did the Dayton scene just die. Simply put there wasnt a Berry Gordy or a Dick Griffey to run the scene. The mob was running these Dayton groups. Groups getting paid with drugs, cash, hoes and cars and not paying attention to the paperwork.

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

Yeah I noticed that bogus comment he made too. I was like "wow" did he just say that bullshit just now? EWF DEFINITELY was not trying to be OHIO PLAYERS....EWF has always and always will have their own style. When I hear EWF I'm not even reminded of the Ohio Players. They both totally different funk groups in their own right. I think ole Lester was feeling himself because he was asked to be interviewed.

missfee said:

phunkdaddy said:

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

Yeah I noticed that bogus comment he made too. I was like "wow" did he just say that bullshit just now? EWF DEFINITELY was not trying to be OHIO PLAYERS....EWF has always and always will have their own style. When I hear EWF I'm not even reminded of the Ohio Players. They both totally different funk groups in their own right. I think ole Lester was feeling himself because he was asked to be interviewed.

I don't think that is what he meant by his comments. I thought he meant that EWF was copying the OHIO Players in the sense that they wanted 2 be an extremely TIGHT live band and was inspired by the live aspects of the OHIO Players.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Abdul said:

Yeah that comment made me Yup it was some homer-ism going on with that statement by Lester

He might have a point?

I don't think so

Lucky enough to come across the rare and hard to find, ANGEL on cd for $5 used. Perfect Shape!!!

Does anyone dvd-r the Unsung shows? I accidently erased the Players episode, now I cant record it to dvd-r.

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/jusello/angel.jpg[/img:$uid]

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MotorBootyAffair said:

Lucky enough to come across the rare and hard to find, ANGEL on cd for $5 used. Perfect Shape!!!

Does anyone dvd-r the Unsung shows? I accidently erased the Players episode, now I cant record it to dvd-r.

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/jusello/angel.jpg[/img:$uid]

[Edited 7/18/11 9:31am]

They will show it again.

Graycap23 said:

MotorBootyAffair said:

Lucky enough to come across the rare and hard to find, ANGEL on cd for $5 used. Perfect Shape!!!

Does anyone dvd-r the Unsung shows? I accidently erased the Players episode, now I cant record it to dvd-r.

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/jusello/angel.jpg[/img:$uid]

[Edited 7/18/11 9:31am]

They will show it again.

and again

HuMpThAnG said:

Graycap23 said:

They will show it again.

and again

and...........

sunlite said:

Junie was a genius! The fact that he was all over the place was what made him sound unique. A hit does not = good music, just popularity. His 70's solo output was abstract funk for sure and not for everyone, but he did what he wanted. The hits came through his stnts with Op and P-Funk. The nastiest OP stuff is from their Junie era. "Ecstacy" and "Pain" being the examples of this. He made P-Funk hit when they started slipping. Yeah he needs his own Unsung episode!

[Edited 7/5/11 13:54pm]

Yeah shit like Player's Ballin, Food Stamps, Pride & Vanity, Our Love Has Died, Singin In The Mornin.....I love how OP could fuse blues/soul/jazz/gospel and funk all in the space of one album...

HuMpThAnG said:

phunkdaddy said:

It's amazing. They were on top of the world. The hits quickly dried up before 1980. I

actually got my mom to buy me their last album with top ten hits on it Angel while

i was still in elementary school. What does everyone think about Zapp Troutman's comment

at the end about EWF copping the Ohio Players style. I definitely disagree with

that one. I think Maurice had his own vision of what he wanted EWF to sound like and

look like. Maurice always stated that he wanted blacks to be aware of African heritage

through their music and it showed with the sound and album covers which was definitely

different from what the Ohio Players were doing. I think Zapp was just being a Dayton

homer with that comment.

That was Lester Troutman

Man, EWF was/is as distinctive in their sound as OP and all the other bands from that era was, and being that he was there you would think Lester would know better than 2 trip like that. But I guess that goes 2 show how just how many egos there are in funk so go figure..... lol