controversy99 said:

While I love Funkadelic, I find the misogyny in some of the lyrics to be a problem...

Is anybody else troubled by this? And what P-Funk albums do you recommend if I don't want to hear any misogyny?

Parliament/Funkadelic is not for everyone, particularly not those easily offended. I'm not troubled by their lyrics, though would recommend that P-Funk is probably not for you. Generally speaking, they're a fairly raunchy ensemble.

I've always known that Funkadelic were more high risk than Parliament.

armpit said:

Funkadelic is party music. You're taking it way too seriously.

Like rap is party music, so ignore the lyrics that everyone is yelling right?

babynoz said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Tell em George. In the kitchen you stay!

You so crazy,

Anyhoo, this was recorded before the PC era just like Richard Pryor's albums. That should be taken into consideration.

Also unlike a lot of today's music, it's not like that's what came out of their mouths on every other song.

I think the main problem with the usage of various non-PC words is the tendency to overuse by those with limited vocabulary and limited creativity.

WTF?

So we here now IS PC?!!! Hardly.

No pass (or consideration) for when it was recorded . . . . . . .

Tupac, Biggie, Eminem etc are all so focused on being PC these days . . . . Well, Tupac and Biggie aren't so concerned I guess these days, but when they were recording, I don't recall them opting for PC expressions . . . .

Timmy84 said:

babynoz said:

You so crazy,

Anyhoo, this was recorded before the PC era just like Richard Pryor's albums. That should be taken into consideration.

Also unlike a lot of today's music, it's not like that's what came out of their mouths on every other song.

I think the main problem with the usage of various non-PC words is the tendency to overuse by those with limited vocabulary and limited creativity.

Exactly. It was a different time obviously. People could say ANYTHING then. Now you're being put under a microscope if you even say anything similar to what the bruhs at Funkadelic were saying then.

Timmy!

C'mon.

People can and do say anything now!

You are not put under a microscope for saying anything similar to Funkadelic.

Nikki Minaj is mysogynist on Pink Friday and not a word heard . . . .

[Edited 7/4/11 10:07am]

babynoz said:

controversy99 said:

um, the PC era? how is it a PC era when so many songs overuse non-PC words, to use your phrase?

What makes this the PC era is that the usage of certain terms is commented on far more frequently than in the past, and the fact that the overuse of those terms is condemned in certain circles.

Just as there are so many artists guilty of this overuse, there's also a much larger backlash than in previous eras.

Pryor used the n-word frequently and not much was said about it at the time until he himself retired the word from his act after visiting Africa. Since then there has been a growing consensus against it's usage even though some artists still insist on using it. The attitude toward certain words has changed in the PC era even if some didn't get the memo.

Where the backlash against rappers using the n-word? Where's the backlash/boycott against Tarantino's fondness for overuse of the n-word? When has Eminem been boycotted for his mysogyny? His homophobia didn't stop 'Stan' from being a hit.

smoothcriminal12 said:

If this is misogyny then just about every rapper in the business is a misogynist.

And they are.

It seems to be acceptable seeing how well it's being defended here . . . .

HuMpThAnG said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

If this is misogyny then just about every rapper in the business is a misogynist.

Exactly!!!

And didn't someone else sing about having sex with his sister?

That's not misogyny.

smoothcriminal12 said:

HuMpThAnG said:

Exactly!!!

And didn't someone else sing about having sex with his sister?

Doesn't that same guy also have a song called Irresistable Bi*ch?

Prince being mysogynistic doesn't excuse anyone else now does it?

Doesn't even mean Prince fans find it acceptable. It's not like Prince polls his fans before deciding what to release.

Timmy84 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Doesn't that same guy also have a song called Irresistable Bi*ch?

He also committed domestic violence under a character in "Bob George".

So who's zooming who here?

And my favorite artist did an S&M track and was all "bitch are you cumming?!" So if you're gonna get upset at anyone being misogyny, might as well name every male artist that ever recorded in tthe history of recorded music back to the blues era.

Are YOU going to name every male artist that ever recorded as misogynist?

I don't think they are.

It seems to be a weak argument that because it's everyone, it must be alreadly acceptable.

I don't think every male artist is misogynist.

There are women who are misogynistic also.

Timmy84 said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

....and keep in mind this is a site for a man that wrote a song called "Irresistible Bitch". And starred in a mega hit blockbuster movie that had misogyny all throughout it (even though he did not write it).

Not saying George is right, but at the same time I try not take some of his stuff too seriously.

Yeah like for example I don't see no tightwad getting upset over George having a song called "Jimmy's Got a Little Bit of Bitch In Him" dedicated to a gay member of Funkadelic's crew.

Must we be upset over any and every? No.

The poster may not have been offended by homophobic or gay bashing lyrics as misogynistic lyrics.

One isn't required to be equally outraged by all perceived slights and offenses. Tough world to live in if you do.

baroque said:

there is so much misogyny in music. people just like to make an example of like funk, hip hop and or rap. why? well i'll leave that to you!

how come no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock ! not to mention the female chauvinistic attitudes in the pop world.

Co-sign.

Pick and choose.

It's not like it's a standard or principle they are holding to.

I ain't got the energy... you're on your own and this topic is dead...after I bump this one more time.

armpit said:

controversy99 said:

Um, how is it a party if I'm offended?

Keep in mind that I enjoy the hell out P-Funk generally. Their best combines humor, dance, and a serious side. Right now I'm listening to Funkentelechy:

"When you're taking every kind of pill (deprogram, program)

Nothing seems to ever cure your ill"

"Funk is a non-profit organization!"

Great stuff!

How do you even get offended by that? Seriously?

Look, it's the equivalent of someone saying you're a 'bad bitch'. It's actually a compliment and not an insult.

If you're that easily offended, you probably should just stay away from p-funk along with a whole lot of other stuff because you're gonna stay constantly pissed off.

Being called a 'bad bitch' can be offensive to the recipient even if it is meant as a compliment.

If you consider it a compliment, does that bar someone from being offended?

If you're that clueless maybe you should stay away from women.

baroque said:

armpit said:

...Oh no, you went there.

Pull back soldier, pull back!

GET TO THE CHOPPA!

im saying this without no malice. i'm just saying i've noticed that from people i've been hearing around me. i wish not to offend anyone.

Who cares if they are offended?

Facts are facts.

minneapolisFunq said:

U sho ain't fonky if this bothers U!

HOLLERIFUHEARME

[Edited 7/3/11 17:24pm]

So funk is only profane and misogynistic?

SUPRMAN said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Doesn't that same guy also have a song called Irresistable Bi*ch?

Prince being mysogynistic doesn't excuse anyone else now does it?

Doesn't even mean Prince fans find it acceptable. It's not like Prince polls his fans before deciding what to release.

No one ever said that Prince's misogyny excused anyone else's misogyny. We were just pointing out something funny. Jeez louise...

Hell, I'm leaving this thread before it gets ugly just like the Cee-Lo thread.

smoothcriminal12 said:

SUPRMAN said:

Prince being mysogynistic doesn't excuse anyone else now does it?

Doesn't even mean Prince fans find it acceptable. It's not like Prince polls his fans before deciding what to release.

No one ever said that Prince's misogyny excused anyone else's misogyny. We were just pointing out something funny. Jeez louise...

Hell, I'm leaving this thread before it gets ugly just like the Cee-Lo thread.

Why bring up the fact that Prince has misogynistic material?

Being Prince fans, most of us would know that already.

It seemed to imply that if we were Prince fans we've been exposed to misogyny and excused it or at least found it acceptable.

yeah, you mugs are taking this waaaaaay too serious

SUPRMAN said:

baroque said:

there is so much misogyny in music. people just like to make an example of like funk, hip hop and or rap. why? well i'll leave that to you!

how come no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock ! not to mention the female chauvinistic attitudes in the pop world.

Co-sign.

Pick and choose.

It's not like it's a standard or principle they are holding to.

I will direct you to the PMRC just like I did baroque. To suggest that "no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock" is to be ignorant of the recent past. The reason that albums with naughty language come with warning labels is a direct result of people complaining about the lyrics in "white" rock music.

The reason that the media are focusing their attention on "black" music these days is because it is by a wide margin the most popular music.

rialb said:

SUPRMAN said:

Co-sign.

Pick and choose.

It's not like it's a standard or principle they are holding to.

I will direct you to the PMRC just like I did baroque. To suggest that "no one complains about the misogyny in hair metal, heavy metal and even rock" is to be ignorant of the recent past. The reason that albums with naughty language come with warning labels is a direct result of people complaining about the lyrics in "white" rock music.

The reason that the media are focusing their attention on "black" music these days is because it is by a wide margin the most popular music.

Agreed.

Timmy84 said:

I ain't got the energy... you're on your own and this topic is dead...after I bump this one more time.

LOL! You know what time it is bro...

The OP was on the up & up, but you know how it goes when peeps show up with their "argue for the sake of arguing so I can show-boat and be seen" agenda.

You're right...it aint worth the energy.

If music offends you, by all means, PLEASE STOP LISTENING TO IT. After all, there's nothing worse than being offended.

If the music ain't offending somebody or affecting somebody, it ain't no good.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

I ain't got the energy... you're on your own and this topic is dead...after I bump this one more time.

LOL! You know what time it is bro...

The OP was on the up & up, but you know how it goes when peeps show up with their "argue for the sake of arguing so I can show-boat and be seen" agenda.

You're right...it aint worth the energy.

Ain't that the truth.

controversy99 said:

While I love Funkadelic, I find the misogyny in some of the lyrics to be a problem. I bought Standing on the Verge of Getting It On yesterday and was surprised to hear:

"A luscious bitch she is, true

But it's not nice to fool mother nature
The proud mother of god like all ho's
Is jealous of her own shadow"

I really don't need to hear "bitch" and "ho" in the first 15 seconds of my album. And of course there's "No Head No Backstage Pass" from Let's Take It to the Stage. Even The Mothership Connection has "Handcuffs":

"If I have to keep you barefoot and pregnant

Oh, to keep you here in my world

(Lay down, girl) lay down and take off-a your shoes

Cause I'm a-gonna do to you

What it is I got to do"

Is anybody else troubled by this? And what P-Funk albums do you recommend if I don't want to hear any misogyny?

You need to get a grip on reality and take this P.C. crap somewhere else. These guys were grown ass men who grow up in a different time from today. Enjoy the music and realize they were high out of their minds went they wrote most of the lyrics.

babynoz said:

Timmy84 said:

I ain't got the energy... you're on your own and this topic is dead...after I bump this one more time.

LOL! You know what time it is bro...

The OP was on the up & up, but you know how it goes when peeps show up with their "argue for the sake of arguing so I can show-boat and be seen" agenda.

You're right...it aint worth the energy.

SUPRMAN said:

minneapolisFunq said:

U sho ain't fonky if this bothers U!

HOLLERIFUHEARME

[Edited 7/3/11 17:24pm]

So funk is only profane and misogynistic?

What kind of response is this?

NO SQUARES ALLOWED!

"Funk is whatever you want it or need it to be for that time"

Som'n George would say, I think

minneapolisFunq said:

U sho ain't fonky if this bothers U!

HOLLERIFUHEARME

[Edited 7/3/11 17:24pm]

OOOKKKAAYY!!?!??

HuMpThAnG said:

"Funk is whatever you want it or need it to be for that time"

Som'n George would say, I think

What'cha gonna do George? "Whatever it takes, whatever the party calls for!"