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Thread started 08/07/11 12:40pm

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Diana Ross Pres. The Jackson 5 vs. Candy Girl [New Edition]

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Zip A Dee Doo Dah

Nobody

I Want You Back

Can You Remember

Standing In The Shadows Of Love

You've Changed

My Cherie Amour

Who's Lovin U

Born To Love You

Now while it was a nice album in my opinion...there were too many covers to make it stand hard on it's own. Especially trying to cover Temptations classic Born To Love You (which I am impressed by Michaels lower register at his age...). My Cherie Amour is nice...not as nice as Stevies and Can You Remember is better than the Delfonics version.

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Gimme Your Love

She Gives Me A Bang

Is This The End?

Pass The Beat

Popcorn Love

Candy Girl

Ooh Baby

Should Have Never Told Me

Gotta Have Your Lovin

Jealous Girl

This album is very bubblegum and full of early 80's electronic flair..not only that but it captures their vocal elements very well setting them apart from other 80's kid acts to come from them. Is This The End and Jealous Girl are still timeless classics. I dont even have to say more about the highlighted funk-pop on the rest of the jams. Pass The Beat is alright even...Ooh Baby..meh..dont even remember what that one sounds like to be frank.

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Reply #1 posted 08/07/11 12:41pm

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Never listened to either, so I couldn't say.

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Reply #2 posted 08/07/11 12:49pm

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Why all these versus threads? It sucks. AND it's not even a fair fight because J5 came first and basically paved the way for New Edition.

Why not just enjoy each group and their for what they were?

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Reply #3 posted 08/07/11 12:52pm

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armpit said:

Why all these versus threads? It sucks. AND it's not even a fair fight because J5 came first and basically paved the way for New Edition.

Why not just enjoy each group and their for what they were?

It's only matter of opinion...doesnt mean that anyone's album is 'better or greater' just a healthy evaluation.

I put on facebook that I like New Editions songs more than Jackson 5 songs..and my brother strongly disagreed with me....

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Reply #4 posted 08/07/11 12:53pm

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smoothcriminal12 said:

Never listened to either, so I couldn't say.

How you going to call yourself smoothcriminal and never even listened to his first album?

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Reply #5 posted 08/07/11 12:57pm

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paisleypark4 said:

smoothcriminal12 said:

Never listened to either, so I couldn't say.

How you going to call yourself smoothcriminal and never even listened to his first album?

For most of my years I was a fan of adult Michael. Just recently I discovered The Jacksons and now I'm looking into The Jackson Five. I just wasn't interested, besides a few songs.

And smoothcriminal is from Bad. It's not like I called myself "I Want Your Back" or "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah." lol

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Reply #6 posted 08/07/11 1:03pm

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Most Motown albums of the 1960's contained a lot of remakes. The Supremes even had entire albums of Sam Cooke and Beatles songs. Even songs that were written by Motown staff writers were recorded on multiple groups.

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Reply #7 posted 08/07/11 1:11pm

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Granted, the title track for Candy Girl is a well-known excellent rip-off of I Want You Back.

But in terms of best album overall, my (controversial) vote goes to New Edition's Candy Girl album because most of those tracks were potential r&b/soul hits. Bubblegum funk is pretty good! cool

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Reply #8 posted 08/07/11 1:15pm

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Some filler on both albums. The main difference for me is that the J5 had 2 excellent songs ("Who's Loving You" and "I Want You Back") while NE just had 1 ("Popcorn Love"). I prefer both groups' second albums.

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Reply #9 posted 08/07/11 1:15pm

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Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5 clearly wins this battle. I mean cuts like "Do You Remember?", "I Want You Back", "Nobody" and "Who's Loving You" edges out everything New Edition has ever done. It's also one of the most profound debuts in pop history as well, so...yeah Jacksons win hands down. No contest!

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Is This The End? and Jealous Girl are "I'll Be There" and "I Found That Girl" with different names.

Popcorn Love sounds like an "I Want You Back" and "The Love You Save" had a love child.

Candy Girl is an "ABC" rip-off.

With that said, I listen to both albums, but I listen to the J5 album more.

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smoothcriminal12 said:

paisleypark4 said:

How you going to call yourself smoothcriminal and never even listened to his first album?

For most of my years I was a fan of adult Michael. Just recently I discovered The Jacksons and now I'm looking into The Jackson Five. I just wasn't interested, besides a few songs.

And smoothcriminal is from Bad. It's not like I called myself "I Want Your Back" or "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah." lol

I know..its just...even at a kid I knew those songs before I knew what Bad was. I guess my upbringing with Jackson 5 was fluent in our family. Guess we just followed on opposite schedueles.

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I see you guys' opinions. Do you think their second albums really stand up to the test of time on eachother? New Edition vs. ABC?

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paisleypark4 said:

I see you guys' opinions. Do you think their second albums really stand up to the test of time on eachother? New Edition vs. ABC?

Both NE and J5's second records were better than ther first effort. Which was better, still gotta go with the J5.

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Reply #14 posted 08/07/11 5:59pm

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paisleypark4 said:

armpit said:

Why all these versus threads? It sucks. AND it's not even a fair fight because J5 came first and basically paved the way for New Edition.

Why not just enjoy each group and their for what they were?

It's only matter of opinion...doesnt mean that anyone's album is 'better or greater' just a healthy evaluation.

I put on facebook that I like New Editions songs more than Jackson 5 songs..and my brother strongly disagreed with me....

Your thoughts?

I disagreed with you too! lol

I think J5 had stronger material, NE didn't have exceptionally strong material until All For Love. Candy Girl and the self titled LP both had a couple of forgettable tunes

And am I the only one who doesn't listen to "Under The Blue Moon"? It's the only NE album aside from One Love that I haven't fully listened to

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bboy87 said:

paisleypark4 said:

It's only matter of opinion...doesnt mean that anyone's album is 'better or greater' just a healthy evaluation.

I put on facebook that I like New Editions songs more than Jackson 5 songs..and my brother strongly disagreed with me....

Your thoughts?

I disagreed with you too! lol

I think J5 had stronger material, NE didn't have exceptionally strong material until All For Love. Candy Girl and the self titled LP both had a couple of forgettable tunes

And am I the only one who doesn't listen to "Under The Blue Moon"? It's the only NE album aside from One Love that I haven't fully listened to

"Blue Moon" is actually not bad, never even listed to One Love besides that single Hot 2Nite. I agree, All For Love is their best album as youngins.

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

I disagreed with you too! lol

I think J5 had stronger material, NE didn't have exceptionally strong material until All For Love. Candy Girl and the self titled LP both had a couple of forgettable tunes

And am I the only one who doesn't listen to "Under The Blue Moon"? It's the only NE album aside from One Love that I haven't fully listened to

"Blue Moon" is actually not bad, never even listed to One Love besides that single Hot 2Nite. I agree, All For Love is their best album as youngins.

One Love had a couple of good songs. I only liked Hot 2Nite for a week when it was released

All For Love and Heartbreak are their best albums. They should've just stayed together and made another album before splitting to do solo projects. Breaking apart in '90 did more damage than they thought

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bboy87 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

"Blue Moon" is actually not bad, never even listed to One Love besides that single Hot 2Nite. I agree, All For Love is their best album as youngins.

One Love had a couple of good songs. I only liked Hot 2Nite for a week when it was released

All For Love and Heartbreak are their best albums. They should've just stayed together and made another album before splitting to do solo projects. Breaking apart in '90 did more damage than they thought

My fav album is actually Home Again. boxed

Maybe cause, I can actually remember when it was released and bought the cassette and played it all the time. And their appearance on Family Matters was GOAT. biggrin

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

One Love had a couple of good songs. I only liked Hot 2Nite for a week when it was released

All For Love and Heartbreak are their best albums. They should've just stayed together and made another album before splitting to do solo projects. Breaking apart in '90 did more damage than they thought

My fav album is actually Home Again. boxed

Maybe cause, I can actually remember when it was released and bought the cassette and played it all the time. And their appearance on Family Matters was GOAT. biggrin

I had it on CD and cassette lol

Home Again is probably my third favorite. When it comes to the side projects/solo albums, I'd say my favorite is BBD's first album, followed by Don't Be Cruel. I'm getting in Johnny's albums, I've only heard 2 of Ralph's (nothing to call home about), and I never heard Ricky's solo joint

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bboy87 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

My fav album is actually Home Again. boxed

Maybe cause, I can actually remember when it was released and bought the cassette and played it all the time. And their appearance on Family Matters was GOAT. biggrin

I had it on CD and cassette lol

Home Again is probably my third favorite. When it comes to the side projects/solo albums, I'd say my favorite is BBD's first album, followed by Don't Be Cruel. I'm getting in Johnny's albums, I've only heard 2 of Ralph's (nothing to call home about), and I never heard Ricky's solo joint

You ever got into Johnny's pre NE work?

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

I had it on CD and cassette lol

Home Again is probably my third favorite. When it comes to the side projects/solo albums, I'd say my favorite is BBD's first album, followed by Don't Be Cruel. I'm getting in Johnny's albums, I've only heard 2 of Ralph's (nothing to call home about), and I never heard Ricky's solo joint

You ever got into Johnny's pre NE work?

Yeah, I have the Johnny Gill '83 and Chemistry. Both solid sets. Half Crazy is a classic IMO

and you know Bobby's King of Stage is my joint! lol

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

paisleypark4 said:

I see you guys' opinions. Do you think their second albums really stand up to the test of time on eachother? New Edition vs. ABC?

Both NE and J5's second records were better than ther first effort. Which was better, still gotta go with the J5.

Now if THIS thread was about the 2nd career album for both groups, J5 got NE owned & pawned!!! wink

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bboy87 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

You ever got into Johnny's pre NE work?

Yeah, I have the Johnny Gill '83 and Chemistry. Both solid sets. Half Crazy is a classic IMO

and you know Bobby's King of Stage is my joint! lol

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Too me King of Stage > Don't Be Cruel.

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

bboy87 said:

One Love had a couple of good songs. I only liked Hot 2Nite for a week when it was released

All For Love and Heartbreak are their best albums. They should've just stayed together and made another album before splitting to do solo projects. Breaking apart in '90 did more damage than they thought

My fav album is actually Home Again. boxed

Maybe cause, I can actually remember when it was released and bought the cassette and played it all the time. And their appearance on Family Matters was GOAT. biggrin

hah! boxed

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AlexdeParis said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

My fav album is actually Home Again. boxed

Maybe cause, I can actually remember when it was released and bought the cassette and played it all the time. And their appearance on Family Matters was GOAT. biggrin

hah! boxed

Shop Around and How Do You Like Your Love Serrved >> Anything else NE has done.

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

AlexdeParis said:

hah! boxed

Shop Around and How Do You Like Your Love Serrved >> Anything else NE has done.

falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff

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AlexdeParis said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Shop Around and How Do You Like Your Love Serrved >> Anything else NE has done.

falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff

One too many chairs.

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Diana Ross Presents had the better singles. Candy Girl is the better album...by a little.

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

AlexdeParis said:

falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff falloff

One too many chairs.

No, 1 for each member and the rest for all their comebacks. lol

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musicjunky318 said:

Diana Ross Presents had the better singles. Candy Girl is the better album...by a little.

Diana Ross Presents only had 1 single lol

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