musicjunky318 said:

NEW YORK -- Columbia Records executives fear that Beyonce's new album, "4," could be a dud after she refused to return to the studio to re-record new tracks, the New York Post reported Wednesday, citing sources.

"They're very nervous about Beyonce's new record," an industry insider said. "It doesn't have the hit songs that her fans are used to. They asked her to make changes, but she said no."

Bracing for the worst, Columbia suits were strategizing in case of slower sales and had "quiet discussions" about the reunion of Destiny's Child.

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Beyonce's career has stalled a bit," a source said. "Columbia seems to think they can get some mileage out of a comeback record with all of the girls."

Another source said that Destiny's Child could start recording together as early as October, with a suggested album title "Family Reunion."

But Kelly Rowland might not be eager to join forces again. A source said, "She has her own solo career now -- why would she want to be singing backup for Beyonce?"

A Columbia rep said, "All I know is that the record came in ... Nothing was ever discussed to change it."

Beyonce's rep added, "All of this is completely untrue. All of it."

Rowland's rep did not return a request for comment.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/06/22/beyonces-album-4-could-bomb-columbia-fears/#ixzz1Q1mYdejy

I don't buy it, looks like a stan wrote this to me.

RKJCNE said:

musicjunky318 said:

NEW YORK -- Columbia Records executives fear that Beyonce's new album, "4," could be a dud after she refused to return to the studio to re-record new tracks, the New York Post reported Wednesday, citing sources.

"They're very nervous about Beyonce's new record," an industry insider said. "It doesn't have the hit songs that her fans are used to. They asked her to make changes, but she said no."

Bracing for the worst, Columbia suits were strategizing in case of slower sales and had "quiet discussions" about the reunion of Destiny's Child.

"

Beyonce's career has stalled a bit," a source said. "Columbia seems to think they can get some mileage out of a comeback record with all of the girls."

Another source said that Destiny's Child could start recording together as early as October, with a suggested album title "Family Reunion."

But Kelly Rowland might not be eager to join forces again. A source said, "She has her own solo career now -- why would she want to be singing backup for Beyonce?"

A Columbia rep said, "All I know is that the record came in ... Nothing was ever discussed to change it."

Beyonce's rep added, "All of this is completely untrue. All of it."

Rowland's rep did not return a request for comment.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/06/22/beyonces-album-4-could-bomb-columbia-fears/#ixzz1Q1mYdejy

I don't buy it, looks like a stan wrote this to me.

Some of them are panicking right now. I'm not a huge fan of hers (I like SOME of her stuff) but Bey's gonna do alright. Maybe not like the rest of them are doing (*coughGagacough*) but people shouldn't think a person flops if all they do is sell platinum.

Timmy84 said:

RKJCNE said:

I don't buy it, looks like a stan wrote this to me.

Some of them are panicking right now. I'm not a huge fan of hers (I like SOME of her stuff) but Bey's gonna do alright. Maybe not like the rest of them are doing (*coughGagacough*) but people shouldn't think a person flops if all they do is sell platinum.

Femme Fatale is certified platinum with two top 5 singles and another smash on the way and you'll still find people saying Britney is flopping.

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

Some of them are panicking right now. I'm not a huge fan of hers (I like SOME of her stuff) but Bey's gonna do alright. Maybe not like the rest of them are doing (*coughGagacough*) but people shouldn't think a person flops if all they do is sell platinum.

Femme Fatale is certified platinum with two top 5 singles and another smash on the way and you'll still find people saying Britney is flopping.

I don't think that's a flop either but I guess what makes them happy.

This disc hasn't even come out yet right? So why is everybody saying it's bombed? That doesn't even make any sense.

I think the album will do OK (maybe between 200K-500K)....how has her album sales been in the past???

I don't think people who listen to Bobby Bland, Randy Travis, or Rosie Ledet would write articles like this about them, nor care about how much they sold in the 1st week.

MickyDolenz said:

I don't think people who listen to Bobby Bland, Randy Travis, or Rosie Ledet would write articles like this about them, nor care about how much they sold in the 1st week.

Well they're not female pop stars lol just saying. Yeah I know but unfortunately that's how it is.

armpit said:

This disc hasn't even come out yet right? So why is everybody saying it's bombed? That doesn't even make any sense.

I don't believe the label is fearing the album will bomb; however, early estimates give analysts a general indication of sales. Should they be troubled by the first single's lukewarm reception? Perhaps so.

Timmy84 said:

musicjunky318 said:

Femme Fatale is certified platinum with two top 5 singles and another smash on the way and you'll still find people saying Britney is flopping.

I don't think that's a flop either but I guess what makes them happy.

I think it would flop (according to Beyonce standards). If she sold 500,000 in the states, that would be a flop for her.

I have a feeling that this project will go ahead and be released. If they didn't hold back that Sasha Fierce crap, they shouldn't hold this one back either.

armpit said:

This disc hasn't even come out yet right? So why is everybody saying it's bombed? That doesn't even make any sense.

Didn't the first two singles bomb? That's usually not a good sign.I can see why her record company is concerned.

musicjunky318 said:

NEW YORK -- Columbia Records executives fear that Beyonce's new album, "4," could be a dud after she refused to return to the studio to re-record new tracks, the New York Post reported Wednesday, citing sources.

"They're very nervous about Beyonce's new record," an industry insider said. "It doesn't have the hit songs that her fans are used to. They asked her to make changes, but she said no."

Bracing for the worst, Columbia suits were strategizing in case of slower sales and had "quiet discussions" about the reunion of Destiny's Child.

"

Beyonce's career has stalled a bit," a source said. "Columbia seems to think they can get some mileage out of a comeback record with all of the girls."

Another source said that Destiny's Child could start recording together as early as October, with a suggested album title "Family Reunion."

But Kelly Rowland might not be eager to join forces again. A source said, "She has her own solo career now -- why would she want to be singing backup for Beyonce?"

A Columbia rep said, "All I know is that the record came in ... Nothing was ever discussed to change it."

Beyonce's rep added, "All of this is completely untrue. All of it."

Rowland's rep did not return a request for comment.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/06/22/beyonces-album-4-could-bomb-columbia-fears/#ixzz1Q1mYdejy

Yeah this def sounds and looks like a fake article written by a fan of another pop female to create drama where there is no drama at all. First of all the wording is terrrible, if a critic of reporter wrote this i have no idea why they were allowed too just for the poor references and quotes that are not even attatched to anyone..."sources say" And whats with the "Kelly Rowland has a solo career...now, she has had one going for a decade already, "Beyonces career has stalled a bit" no one at her label would dare say that, she isnt some punk kid first or second album in, she practically brings in all the money for that label. "they are very nervous about the record because there are no hit singles on it" well tough, then do your job at marketing, thats got nothing to do with her, the album is cut, ITS THE JOB of the song promoters thats what those cats get paid for, if they fail to do it, then they get fired, tired of hearing artists be the blame for this BS, heard this a long time ago in a STYX behind the music episode, "we just record and go out and tour the song promoter has to do their job"

the album isn't as bad as what people making it out to be.

I think beyonce just needs to stop plagiarising and be original.

Stop with the robotic answers and fake good girl personality.

Get rid of the the bleach blond rat nest

STOP WEARING BATHING SUITS

Learn how to dancer other then coochie poppin, and stop yelling and shouting.

The album isn't bad. I actually like it. And I might just head over to Target in the next week or so and pick it up. Party is my jam

TotalAlisa said:

I think beyonce just needs to stop plagiarising and be original.

That never hurt Led Zeppelin.

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armpit said:

This disc hasn't even come out yet right? So why is everybody saying it's bombed? That doesn't even make any sense.

Probably because 3 songs had to be "leaked" before one got some buzz. They're just being nervous. She'll sell fine but maybe not the exorbitant numbers they expect for Beyonce!

HonestMan13 said:

armpit said:

This disc hasn't even come out yet right? So why is everybody saying it's bombed? That doesn't even make any sense.

Probably because 3 songs had to be "leaked" before one got some buzz. They're just being nervous. She'll sell fine but maybe not the exorbitant numbers they expect for Beyonce!

Because they leaked them, thing is, its just a record, there is way too much now about this kinda stuff, you did the album, put it out, this is where the industry FAILS big time, because they are already throwing their own project under the bus, they are so concerned with hits and sales they lost sight of how to do basic things like market music, they now are HYPING----FAILING, its sick but its the truth. But truth be known, there is not much loss on their part, Beyonce is gonna bring you in cash no matter what, but remember this woman his been in the "light" for a decade plus now, thats a long "period" of time, artists always have a grace period where they are in, where their shit dont stink so to speak, they all have it from Prince down the line, if you want a career you will have these periods of time. Personally its my favorite solo album by her, not saying much but i like it overall, though i have listened to the new Selena Gomez album more already which doesnt say much for Beyonce as far as being able to hold my interest

I'd rather see her stand by her album and take her chances. I'm glad she refused to listen to the execs if this is true. She should be powerful enough in her career to tell them no, she's made them hundreds of millions of dollars.

She has to evolve and change the older she gets. And she's not going to be able to hit it out of the park every time. She's been competent in her singing and acting career.

I'm kind of surprised she hasn't made her father step down as her manager.

SoulAlive said:

armpit said:

This disc hasn't even come out yet right? So why is everybody saying it's bombed? That doesn't even make any sense.

Didn't the first two singles bomb? That's usually not a good sign.I can see why her record company is concerned.

I think whether the album blows up and sells five million copies or flops, Beyonce will be just fine.

But I said before, I thought "Run The World (Girls)" was a bad choice for a leadoff single. The song just doesn't have any melody or hook to keep listeners interested in it. When you heard "Crazy In Love" or "Single Ladies" for the first time, you knew they would be smash hits from the get go because they both had hugely catchy hooks. But this album deosn't have that, or at least doesn't have one that gets listeners and casual fans excited.

dalsh327 said:

I'd rather see her stand by her album and take her chances. I'm glad she refused to listen to the execs if this is true. She should be powerful enough in her career to tell them no, she's made them hundreds of millions of dollars.

She has to evolve and change the older she gets. And she's not going to be able to hit it out of the park every time. She's been competent in her singing and acting career.

I'm kind of surprised she hasn't made her father step down as her manager.

Fixed.

Oh, and Don Corleone is no longer her manager. She recently got rid of him .

[Edited 6/22/11 18:48pm]

musicjunky318 said:

Timmy84 said:

Some of them are panicking right now. I'm not a huge fan of hers (I like SOME of her stuff) but Bey's gonna do alright. Maybe not like the rest of them are doing (*coughGagacough*) but people shouldn't think a person flops if all they do is sell platinum.

Femme Fatale is certified platinum with two top 5 singles and another smash on the way and you'll still find people saying Britney is flopping.

It may be certified platinum but it hasn't even sold 600,000 copies yet. It has a long way to go before it even matches Blackout.

dalsh327 said:

I'd rather see her stand by her album and take her chances. I'm glad she refused to listen to the execs if this is true. She should be powerful enough in her career to tell them no, she's made them hundreds of millions of dollars.

She has to evolve and change the older she gets. And she's not going to be able to hit it out of the park every time. She's been competent in her singing and acting career.

I'm kind of surprised she hasn't made her father step down as her manager.

I see you haven't been on the board in a while. She fired him months ago.

MyNameIsPiper said:

dalsh327 said:

I'd rather see her stand by her album and take her chances. I'm glad she refused to listen to the execs if this is true. She should be powerful enough in her career to tell them no, she's made them hundreds of millions of dollars.

She has to evolve and change the older she gets. And she's not going to be able to hit it out of the park every time. She's been competent in her singing and acting career.

I'm kind of surprised she hasn't made her father step down as her manager.

Fixed.

Oh, and Don Corleone is no longer her manager. She recently got rid of him .

[Edited 6/22/11 18:48pm]

LOL Don Corleone.

Her album really isn't all that great. Dangerously in Love and B'Day are her best albums to date and I think "4" is her worst. The album just doesn't mesh to me...Out of 72 songs she supposedly sent the label, they picked the worst ones

I Miss You

Party

Love on Top

Dance For You

are the only songs I can tolerate.

Although this article reads faker than a mug, I do believe her label is nervous. And they should be. If I remember correctly, usually one week from the release date she'd have either the No. 1 song in the country or something in the Top 10 by now. Their first single didn't generate the buzz that their used to so, I could understand any anxiety.

I definitely don't believe the "reunion" talk either.

Regardless of first week sales, I hope she stands by her music and not abandon it like some others (Ne-Yo, Christina Aguilera) recently. Have some integrity about your shit, damn.

I'm actually excited about the flop. I wanted a Destiny's Child reunion and I guess this is the way I'm gonna get it.

Plus it'll shut up a lot of her stans who think she's bullet-proof and love dragging everybody else through the mud.

Beyonce's very demure new Target ad.

I don't know why some people think that a Destiny's Child "reunion" will be a major success.It'll be the same crappy music that Beyonce does,just under a different name