This baby-faced rapper now has a baby of his own.

Bow Wow, who shot to fame at age 12 when he was discovered by Snoop Dogg, is now a 24-year-old man with a child of his own, whose birth he had kept secret until today.

And he says the infant has saved his life.

The rapper, real name Shad Gregory Moss, took to his personal website to reveal to fans that he became a dad to daughter Shai Moss back in June.

"My lil girl is betting BIG fast," he write. "I love every minute of it, She inspires me to go harder. Even made me treat my mother better, its like it made me into a man over night."

Bow Wow, who had previously gone on the offensive against gossip sites that had run stories of the child's birth, explains why he finally decided to come clean.

"I waited so long to tell yall the truth because I was nervous on how yall would look at me," he write. "Yall know everyone makes a big deal out of everything i do. I wanted to be 1st n let yall know the real.Yes! I change diapers. Aint as bad as I thought hahaha."

The rapper says he won't be revealing photos of his new baby girl to the world anytime soon. She currently lives with her mother, sexy video vixen Joie Chavis.

"I want her to live with me so bad," wrote the star. "Jus us 2. Thats m y dream man but fellas yall know how it go. Baby gotta stay with they momma and all dat bull. I hate that! So I have to fly 5 hours away to see her. I find myself going into my phone book jus lookn at pix of her. Sometimes I tear up cuz i just cant believe it brotha be emotional."

Bow Wow says that the "bs" that comes with his baby-mama drama is expected and that he sucks it up and now has a reason to live.

"For the past 3 years I een battling life. Even thought about taking my own. I felt like as a kid i did everything and saw everything too fast which spoiled my adult years. i felt as is I had no purpose to live (Thinking selfishly) until god gave me the illest gift of my life."

Congrats.

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Umm why all talk about having "baby-mama drama"??? These dumb stupid fools kill me when they have all this drama with the mother of their child YET it was all good when the women were opening their legs up to them. Pisses me off. You stuck your dick in her, fertilized her egg and created a child. She didn't do that shit by herself. Now you complaining about seeing your child? Yet it was all good to travel that far when you was fucking her mother. Lawd, words just cannot express what I really want to say about his ignorant ass.

Then you claim that having a baby is what made you not want to commit suicide??? Smells like someone was being an attention whore.

[Edited 7/7/11 9:46am]

missfee said:

This baby-faced rapper now has a baby of his own.

Bow Wow, who shot to fame at age 12 when he was discovered by Snoop Dogg, is now a 24-year-old man with a child of his own, whose birth he had kept secret until today.

And he says the infant has saved his life.

The rapper, real name Shad Gregory Moss, took to his personal website to reveal to fans that he became a dad to daughter Shai Moss back in June.

"My lil girl is betting BIG fast," he write. "I love every minute of it, She inspires me to go harder. Even made me treat my mother better, its like it made me into a man over night."

Bow Wow, who had previously gone on the offensive against gossip sites that had run stories of the child's birth, explains why he finally decided to come clean.

"I waited so long to tell yall the truth because I was nervous on how yall would look at me," he write. "Yall know everyone makes a big deal out of everything i do. I wanted to be 1st n let yall know the real.Yes! I change diapers. Aint as bad as I thought hahaha."

The rapper says he won't be revealing photos of his new baby girl to the world anytime soon. She currently lives with her mother, sexy video vixen Joie Chavis.

"I want her to live with me so bad," wrote the star. "Jus us 2. Thats m y dream man but fellas yall know how it go. Baby gotta stay with they momma and all dat bull. I hate that! So I have to fly 5 hours away to see her. I find myself going into my phone book jus lookn at pix of her. Sometimes I tear up cuz i just cant believe it brotha be emotional."

Bow Wow says that the "bs" that comes with his baby-mama drama is expected and that he sucks it up and now has a reason to live.

"For the past 3 years I een battling life. Even thought about taking my own. I felt like as a kid i did everything and saw everything too fast which spoiled my adult years. i felt as is I had no purpose to live (Thinking selfishly) until god gave me the illest gift of my life."

Congrats.

© 2011 E! Entertainment Television, Inc. All rights reserved., http://comcast.eonline.co.../index.jsp

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Umm why all talk about having "baby-mama drama"??? These dumb stupid fools kill me when they have all this drama with the mother of their child YET it was all good when the women were opening their legs up to them. Pisses me off. You stuck your dick in her, fertilized her egg and created a child. She didn't do that shit by herself. Now you complaining about seeing your child? Yet it was all good to travel that far when you was fucking her mother. Lawd, words just cannot express what I really want to say about his ignorant ass.

Then you claim that having a baby is what made you not want to commit suicide??? Smells like someone was being an attention whore.

[Edited 7/7/11 9:46am]

Of course, blame it all on the men. Because it's always their fault.

I could better comprehend how he feels if the statement wasn't written in Ebonics.

The kid's mom! Yummy, yummy.

smoothcriminal12 said:

missfee said:

This baby-faced rapper now has a baby of his own.

Bow Wow, who shot to fame at age 12 when he was discovered by Snoop Dogg, is now a 24-year-old man with a child of his own, whose birth he had kept secret until today.

And he says the infant has saved his life.

The rapper, real name Shad Gregory Moss, took to his personal website to reveal to fans that he became a dad to daughter Shai Moss back in June.

"My lil girl is betting BIG fast," he write. "I love every minute of it, She inspires me to go harder. Even made me treat my mother better, its like it made me into a man over night."

Bow Wow, who had previously gone on the offensive against gossip sites that had run stories of the child's birth, explains why he finally decided to come clean.

"I waited so long to tell yall the truth because I was nervous on how yall would look at me," he write. "Yall know everyone makes a big deal out of everything i do. I wanted to be 1st n let yall know the real.Yes! I change diapers. Aint as bad as I thought hahaha."

The rapper says he won't be revealing photos of his new baby girl to the world anytime soon. She currently lives with her mother, sexy video vixen Joie Chavis.

"I want her to live with me so bad," wrote the star. "Jus us 2. Thats m y dream man but fellas yall know how it go. Baby gotta stay with they momma and all dat bull. I hate that! So I have to fly 5 hours away to see her. I find myself going into my phone book jus lookn at pix of her. Sometimes I tear up cuz i just cant believe it brotha be emotional."

Bow Wow says that the "bs" that comes with his baby-mama drama is expected and that he sucks it up and now has a reason to live.

"For the past 3 years I een battling life. Even thought about taking my own. I felt like as a kid i did everything and saw everything too fast which spoiled my adult years. i felt as is I had no purpose to live (Thinking selfishly) until god gave me the illest gift of my life."

Congrats.

© 2011 E! Entertainment Television, Inc. All rights reserved., http://comcast.eonline.co.../index.jsp

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Umm why all talk about having "baby-mama drama"??? These dumb stupid fools kill me when they have all this drama with the mother of their child YET it was all good when the women were opening their legs up to them. Pisses me off. You stuck your dick in her, fertilized her egg and created a child. She didn't do that shit by herself. Now you complaining about seeing your child? Yet it was all good to travel that far when you was fucking her mother. Lawd, words just cannot express what I really want to say about his ignorant ass.

Then you claim that having a baby is what made you not want to commit suicide??? Smells like someone was being an attention whore.

[Edited 7/7/11 9:46am]

Of course, blame it all on the men. Because it's always their fault.

Never said all men. Just the dumb stupid fools. But it not always the women's fault either.

I saw that yesterday on another site and I have to say Bow Wow sounds like a real bitchmade fool who probably shouldn't have kids. WTF, it took a kid by a woman you weren't really feeling to make you mature and have a better relationship with your own mother? Everyone makes a big deal out of what you do? YOu were worried about fan reaction? Nucca please!

I think BowWow had a kid because it was what all the other dudes were doing, save for the wise Chris Brown. Look at the child's mother. What man wouldn't fuck her without a condom? He complains about having to travel 5 hours to see her. Well that is his choice. Certainly he has the financial wherewithall to move the baby and her mother closer to him or to relocate himself. His suicidal comment makes no sense at all. What could have happened in his life that he wanted to die? When I think of artists who have been through hell and have had suicidal thoughts, his name just doesn't come up.

Oh well. It's all about the child. Good luck to this drama king.

HotGritz said:

I saw that yesterday on another site and I have to say Bow Wow sounds like a real bitchmade fool who probably shouldn't have kids. WTF, it took a kid by a woman you weren't really feeling to make you mature and have a better relationship with your own mother? Everyone makes a big deal out of what you do? YOu were worried about fan reaction? Nucca please!

I think BowWow had a kid because it was what all the other dudes were doing, save for the wise Chris Brown. Look at the child's mother. What man wouldn't fuck her without a condom? He complains about having to travel 5 hours to see her. Well that is his choice. Certainly he has the financial wherewithall to move the baby and her mother closer to him or to relocate himself. His suicidal comment makes no sense at all. What could have happened in his life that he wanted to die? When I think of artists who have been through hell and have had suicidal thoughts, his name just doesn't come up.

Oh well. It's all about the child. Good luck to this drama king.

missfee said:

HotGritz said:

I saw that yesterday on another site and I have to say Bow Wow sounds like a real bitchmade fool who probably shouldn't have kids. WTF, it took a kid by a woman you weren't really feeling to make you mature and have a better relationship with your own mother? Everyone makes a big deal out of what you do? YOu were worried about fan reaction? Nucca please!

I think BowWow had a kid because it was what all the other dudes were doing, save for the wise Chris Brown. Look at the child's mother. What man wouldn't fuck her without a condom? He complains about having to travel 5 hours to see her. Well that is his choice. Certainly he has the financial wherewithall to move the baby and her mother closer to him or to relocate himself. His suicidal comment makes no sense at all. What could have happened in his life that he wanted to die? When I think of artists who have been through hell and have had suicidal thoughts, his name just doesn't come up.

Oh well. It's all about the child. Good luck to this drama king.

Gritz, is seems like that is what he is tryin' to say - in his own way. Yes he seems to lack maturity and insight born of reflection and intellect (ok, he sounds like a dumbass), but he is still tryin' to get to the point that you, in all of your wisdom, went straight to. You did not, however, go straight to the proper use of universal percautions during the exchange of bodily fluids. Your voice becomes effectively mute when you endorse sex without a condemn in your playful and witty manner. Women die everyday because they did not have the capacity, strength or insight to insist on using a condom during sexual intercourse. "What could have happened in his your life that" you would not want to promote the protection of women through empowerment and knowledge? Your statement makes light of the need and human mandate that we all have to treat women well, and to provide them with a joy and security that will sustain them after the intercourse is done.

I am sorry if this response is coming off harsh, but you practically typed it up yourself. You referred to Chris Brown as a wise man after he has given a woman a public beat down, and then berate Lil' Bow Wow for being a little slow and a bit of a chump - that is a whole new level of an oxymora activity right there. I think that you are right when you say it is all about the child, which is at the end of the day why I am posting this too serious response. Bow Wow doesn't need luck, drama king or not. He, and that child, need a supportive voice to move it on down the road with. It is no wonder that the boy hasn't gown into a man.

allsmutaside said:

missfee said:

Gritz, is seems like that is what he is tryin' to say - in his own way. Yes he seems to lack maturity and insight born of reflection and intellect (ok, he sounds like a dumbass), but he is still tryin' to get to the point that you, in all of your wisdom, went straight to. You did not, however, go straight to the proper use of universal percautions during the exchange of bodily fluids. Your voice becomes effectively mute when you endorse sex without a condemn in your playful and witty manner. Women die everyday because they did not have the capacity, strength or insight to insist on using a condom during sexual intercourse. "What could have happened in his your life that" you would not want to promote the protection of women through empowerment and knowledge? Your statement makes light of the need and human mandate that we all have to treat women well, and to provide them with a joy and security that will sustain them after the intercourse is done.

I am sorry if this response is coming off harsh, but you practically typed it up yourself. You referred to Chris Brown as a wise man after he has given a woman a public beat down, and then berate Lil' Bow Wow for being a little slow and a bit of a chump - that is a whole new level of an oxymora activity right there. I think that you are right when you say it is all about the child, which is at the end of the day why I am posting this too serious response. Bow Wow doesn't need luck, drama king or not. He, and that child, need a supportive voice to move it on down the road with. It is no wonder that the boy hasn't gown into a man.

The hell? I'm not endorsing this fool nor his actions in any kind of way.

This munchkin is singing that old "nigga got jacked for his paper" song but he's trying to clean it up by talking all that mess about loving his baby and his fans. Fuck him and his feelings. Chris Brown is wise for one reason and one reason only: he apparently practices safe sex. No hoodrat has come forward claiming to be the mother of his child. I have to commend him for that as we live in a world with too many "baby mommas" and not enough "co-parenting" and "committed relationships".

Yes, your response is too serious. This is Bow Wow we're talking about, not Trey Songz.

HotGritz said:

allsmutaside said:

Gritz, is seems like that is what he is tryin' to say - in his own way. Yes he seems to lack maturity and insight born of reflection and intellect (ok, he sounds like a dumbass), but he is still tryin' to get to the point that you, in all of your wisdom, went straight to. You did not, however, go straight to the proper use of universal percautions during the exchange of bodily fluids. Your voice becomes effectively mute when you endorse sex without a condemn in your playful and witty manner. Women die everyday because they did not have the capacity, strength or insight to insist on using a condom during sexual intercourse. "What could have happened in his your life that" you would not want to promote the protection of women through empowerment and knowledge? Your statement makes light of the need and human mandate that we all have to treat women well, and to provide them with a joy and security that will sustain them after the intercourse is done.

I am sorry if this response is coming off harsh, but you practically typed it up yourself. You referred to Chris Brown as a wise man after he has given a woman a public beat down, and then berate Lil' Bow Wow for being a little slow and a bit of a chump - that is a whole new level of an oxymora activity right there. I think that you are right when you say it is all about the child, which is at the end of the day why I am posting this too serious response. Bow Wow doesn't need luck, drama king or not. He, and that child, need a supportive voice to move it on down the road with. It is no wonder that the boy hasn't gown into a man.

The hell? I'm not endorsing this fool nor his actions in any kind of way.

This munchkin is singing that old "nigga got jacked for his paper" song but he's trying to clean it up by talking all that mess about loving his baby and his fans. Fuck him and his feelings. Chris Brown is wise for one reason and one reason only: he apparently practices safe sex. No hoodrat has come forward claiming to be the mother of his child. I have to commend him for that as we live in a world with too many "baby mommas" and not enough "co-parenting" and "committed relationships".

Yes, your response is too serious. This is Bow Wow we're talking about, not Trey Songz.

No, I believe my response is just fine. From the information in the original post this has nothing to do with being "jacked for his paper." It is actually starting to sound like that old "black man can't catch a break" song. If you have more facts to share about this it would a different story.

Appearances can be deceiving. Your assumption about C. Brown and his use of birth control because he has no children, that we know of, is ill founded. (Anyway, I thougt Trey Songz was why Bow Wow didn't need to use birth control )

OK maybe I was a little too serious in response to "What man wouldn't fuck her without a condom?" But to answer the question, a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom. (Of course the discussion is deeper and broader than a one line answer, but at it's core the truth is a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom.)

allsmutaside said:

HotGritz said:

The hell? I'm not endorsing this fool nor his actions in any kind of way.

This munchkin is singing that old "nigga got jacked for his paper" song but he's trying to clean it up by talking all that mess about loving his baby and his fans. Fuck him and his feelings. Chris Brown is wise for one reason and one reason only: he apparently practices safe sex. No hoodrat has come forward claiming to be the mother of his child. I have to commend him for that as we live in a world with too many "baby mommas" and not enough "co-parenting" and "committed relationships".

Yes, your response is too serious. This is Bow Wow we're talking about, not Trey Songz.

No, I believe my response is just fine. From the information in the original post this has nothing to do with being "jacked for his paper." It is actually starting to sound like that old "black man can't catch a break" song. If you have more facts to share about this it would a different story.

Appearances can be deceiving. Your assumption about C. Brown and his use of birth control because he has no children, that we know of, is ill founded. (Anyway, I thougt Trey Songz was why Bow Wow didn't need to use birth control )

OK maybe I was a little too serious in response to "What man wouldn't fuck her without a condom?" But to answer the question, a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom. (Of course the discussion is deeper and broader than a one line answer, but at it's core the truth is a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom.)

(Anyway, I thougt Trey Songz was why Bow Wow Chris Brown didn't need to use birth control ) Shoot, meesed up the punch line to my own joke. So pathatic.

allsmutaside said:

allsmutaside said:

No, I believe my response is just fine. From the information in the original post this has nothing to do with being "jacked for his paper." It is actually starting to sound like that old "black man can't catch a break" song. If you have more facts to share about this it would a different story.

Appearances can be deceiving. Your assumption about C. Brown and his use of birth control because he has no children, that we know of, is ill founded. (Anyway, I thougt Trey Songz was why Bow Wow didn't need to use birth control )

OK maybe I was a little too serious in response to "What man wouldn't fuck her without a condom?" But to answer the question, a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom. (Of course the discussion is deeper and broader than a one line answer, but at it's core the truth is a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom.)

(Anyway, I thougt Trey Songz was why Bow Wow Chris Brown didn't need to use birth control ) Shoot, meesed up the punch line to my own joke. So pathatic.

I didn't get your joke sorry.

Here's the deal with Bow Wow.

1. He denied ever dating Miss Joie. They were just "friends"

2. She was walking around fully pregnant and tweeting pics of her belly and putting Bow on blast.

3. After #3 happened, Bow continued to deny her and the unborn child

4. Baby got born, turned out cute, and the dna test proved Bow was the father

5. Bow tried to blame the initial denial of his child on his "fans" what few he has.

6. Miss Joie isn't the only jump off Shad has but she is by far the prettiest and has the biggest booty so maybe that was a factor in his sexual carelessness.

He's trifling from here to eternity. As for the use of a condom. Um, you are first supposed to care about your own physical health and safety especially when you are a young male celebrity with numerous groupies at your disposal. Bow apparently didn't care about potentially exposing himself to disease, he only cared about riding that fine girl raw...to put it bluntly.

Identity said:

I could better comprehend how he feels if the statement wasn't written in Ebonics.

I agree. Especially the use of "they" instead of "their." It reminds me of the old slave talk in the movies from the 40s I watch.

HotGritz said:

allsmutaside said:

(Anyway, I thougt Trey Songz was why Bow Wow Chris Brown didn't need to use birth control ) Shoot, meesed up the punch line to my own joke. So pathatic.

I didn't get your joke sorry.

Here's the deal with Bow Wow.

1. He denied ever dating Miss Joie. They were just "friends"

2. She was walking around fully pregnant and tweeting pics of her belly and putting Bow on blast.

3. After #3 happened, Bow continued to deny her and the unborn child

4. Baby got born, turned out cute, and the dna test proved Bow was the father

5. Bow tried to blame the initial denial of his child on his "fans" what few he has.

6. Miss Joie isn't the only jump off Shad has but she is by far the prettiest and has the biggest booty so maybe that was a factor in his sexual carelessness.

He's trifling from here to eternity. As for the use of a condom. Um, you are first supposed to care about your own physical health and safety especially when you are a young male celebrity with numerous groupies at your disposal. Bow apparently didn't care about potentially exposing himself to disease, he only cared about riding that fine girl raw...to put it bluntly.

Yes, I have to own it and say that it would seem he could be trifling from here to eterninty.

Your flipping of the script to first caring about "your own physical health and safety" doesn't reflect accurately the tone and content of your prior posts on this broader matter. (It's bologna. Seriously, who gives a flying pig about him being a "young male celebrity" for the purposes of this conversation? If he were to acquire HIV he would have the latest and best in life saving medical care. If the child were put into his custody he would have more than enough resources to cope.)

You assume a great deal regarding who was responsible for the lack of universal precautions being used during their fabulous raw sex.

2. She was walking around fully pregnant and tweeting pics of her belly and putting Bow on blast. doesn't reflect well on Ms. fine girl. Speaking of trifling to eterninty and the possibility of Bow being "jacked for his paper."

Don't you think he could simply be living with regret that he made a choice to be with a trifling to eternity gal? Perhaps his motivations aren't really that deep. Perhaps he was ashamed about his choices and just didn't know of another way of responding.

And I do think that you get the joke. I think that you are withholding from me on that point just to be mean, which makes me a Lil' Fan of yours. It wasn't the deepest or most sophisticated material, but I think even Lil Bitchmade Bow Wow would get it.

So many girls/women have commented about this news on different sites, calling it "cute."

This kinda crap ain't "cute" to me. It's pathetic. Poor child....

I don't understand this epidemic in the black community-MY community-of babymammas, people not getting married and having kids with multiple people and women left having to raise the kids. Why and where did it all go wrong? Years ago, people were ashamed to have kids out of wedlock. They need to bring that concept back-I am halfway kidding

allsmutaside said:

HotGritz said:

I didn't get your joke sorry.

Here's the deal with Bow Wow.

1. He denied ever dating Miss Joie. They were just "friends"

2. She was walking around fully pregnant and tweeting pics of her belly and putting Bow on blast.

3. After #3 happened, Bow continued to deny her and the unborn child

4. Baby got born, turned out cute, and the dna test proved Bow was the father

5. Bow tried to blame the initial denial of his child on his "fans" what few he has.

6. Miss Joie isn't the only jump off Shad has but she is by far the prettiest and has the biggest booty so maybe that was a factor in his sexual carelessness.

He's trifling from here to eternity. As for the use of a condom. Um, you are first supposed to care about your own physical health and safety especially when you are a young male celebrity with numerous groupies at your disposal. Bow apparently didn't care about potentially exposing himself to disease, he only cared about riding that fine girl raw...to put it bluntly.

Yes, I have to own it and say that it would seem he could be trifling from here to eterninty.

Your flipping of the script to first caring about "your own physical health and safety" doesn't reflect accurately the tone and content of your prior posts on this broader matter. (It's bologna. Seriously, who gives a flying pig about him being a "young male celebrity" for the purposes of this conversation? If he were to acquire HIV he would have the latest and best in life saving medical care. If the child were put into his custody he would have more than enough resources to cope.)

OK slow your roll and lets keep things in perspective. YOU brought up "caring about his partner" and I responded that he should first care about his own safety and health. His being a young male celebrity only offers him more sexual opportunity and risks than the average guy. Sure he could have the best medical care if he indeed got sick but so what? If the child were put into his custody...well, I don't necessarily think that is a good idea.

You assume a great deal regarding who was responsible for the lack of universal precautions being used during their fabulous raw sex.

2. She was walking around fully pregnant and tweeting pics of her belly and putting Bow on blast. doesn't reflect well on Ms. fine girl. Speaking of trifling to eterninty and the possibility of Bow being "jacked for his paper."

^To this: nobody said she was a saint nor a nun. Seems to me that her actions were the result of Bow possibly letting her go and/or denying paternity. IIRC they were together for five or six months and then boom he was on to somebody else but she was left pregnant and she started letting it be known that Shad was the father. What would you have suggested she do? Taking him to court would have been an option but would she appear less trifling in your eyes? I doubt that. Now lets say that she was indeed an opportunist and a gold digger; at the end of the day whose fault is it that she got pregnant? BowWow! He's been in this game too long to not recognize such a scheming woman if indeed that is what Joie is.

Don't you think he could simply be living with regret that he made a choice to be with a trifling to eternity gal? Perhaps his motivations aren't really that deep. Perhaps he was ashamed about his choices and just didn't know of another way of responding.

^ He could very well be living with regret about his choice in a baby momma/girlfriend but again that was HIS choice. He was not forced into a relationship with this girl yet alone screwing her without protection. That's why I don't buy any of the BS he is spouting. He's trying to come off as some sort of victim in my eyes. "poor Bow, he got baby momma drama, poor Bow -he's afraid of losing his fans, poor Bow- he's got to travel 5 hours to see his kid and he felt suicidal..."

And I do think that you get the joke. I think that you are withholding from me on that point just to be mean, which makes me a Lil' Fan of yours. It wasn't the deepest or most sophisticated material, but I think even Lil Bitchmade Bow Wow would get it.

^ ok you're crazy. I kinda like crazy so do you!

HotGritz said:

allsmutaside said:

Yes, I have to own it and say that it would seem he could be trifling from here to eterninty.

Your flipping of the script to first caring about "your own physical health and safety" doesn't reflect accurately the tone and content of your prior posts on this broader matter. (It's bologna. Seriously, who gives a flying pig about him being a "young male celebrity" for the purposes of this conversation? If he were to acquire HIV he would have the latest and best in life saving medical care. If the child were put into his custody he would have more than enough resources to cope.)

OK slow your roll and lets keep things in perspective. YOU brought up "caring about his partner" and I responded that he should first care about his own safety and health. His being a young male celebrity only offers him more sexual opportunity and risks than the average guy. Sure he could have the best medical care if he indeed got sick but so what? If the child were put into his custody...well, I don't necessarily think that is a good idea.

You assume a great deal regarding who was responsible for the lack of universal precautions being used during their fabulous raw sex.

2. She was walking around fully pregnant and tweeting pics of her belly and putting Bow on blast. doesn't reflect well on Ms. fine girl. Speaking of trifling to eterninty and the possibility of Bow being "jacked for his paper."

^To this: nobody said she was a saint nor a nun. Seems to me that her actions were the result of Bow possibly letting her go and/or denying paternity. IIRC they were together for five or six months and then boom he was on to somebody else but she was left pregnant and she started letting it be known that Shad was the father. What would you have suggested she do? Taking him to court would have been an option but would she appear less trifling in your eyes? I doubt that. Now lets say that she was indeed an opportunist and a gold digger; at the end of the day whose fault is it that she got pregnant? BowWow! He's been in this game too long to not recognize such a scheming woman if indeed that is what Joie is.

Don't you think he could simply be living with regret that he made a choice to be with a trifling to eternity gal? Perhaps his motivations aren't really that deep. Perhaps he was ashamed about his choices and just didn't know of another way of responding.

^ He could very well be living with regret about his choice in a baby momma/girlfriend but again that was HIS choice. He was not forced into a relationship with this girl yet alone screwing her without protection. That's why I don't buy any of the BS he is spouting. He's trying to come off as some sort of victim in my eyes. "poor Bow, he got baby momma drama, poor Bow -he's afraid of losing his fans, poor Bow- he's got to travel 5 hours to see his kid and he felt suicidal..."

And I do think that you get the joke. I think that you are withholding from me on that point just to be mean, which makes me a Lil' Fan of yours. It wasn't the deepest or most sophisticated material, but I think even Lil Bitchmade Bow Wow would get it.

^ ok you're crazy. I kinda like crazy so do you!

Really seems like he has babydaddy drama actually. Sounds like he fathered a child in a situation that is not reconciled with his own family system upbringing, and it hurts him something crazy that he was so thoughtless. He doesn't see a way through at this time to a place where an acutal family system can rise up where he can function as a man/father/spouse to that family. Well, you reap what you sow. And he just harvested a long commute to see his Lil' Heart, his Lil' Inspiration, his Lil' Shit Filled Diaper. (Send his ass on Greyhound next time and see how his tweets change like a ...) But really, can we sing a better song for this man boy? "I felt like as a kid i did everything and saw everything too fast which spoiled my adult years." I believe and hope he is putting forward a good faith effort that will evolve and become richer over time. He just doesn't have the tools right yet. Bill Cosby needs to stop by with some damn pudding pops.

Identity said:

I could better comprehend how he feels if the statement wasn't written in Ebonics.

The kid's mom! Yummy, yummy.

well damn!

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scriptgirl said:

I don't understand this epidemic in the black community-MY community-of babymammas, people not getting married and having kids with multiple people and women left having to raise the kids. Why and where did it all go wrong? Years ago, people were ashamed to have kids out of wedlock. They need to bring that concept back-I am halfway kidding

I agree with you. And while they're at it, they also need to bring back the concept of how kids used to actually LEARN in school. I'm blown away by the number of young ADULTS that can't even write legibly, read, speak, or even solve simple math equations. Back in the day, if you weren't able to prove that you had learned the material, your ass just got left back a grade until you did! And THAT was motivation enough to learn.

To Bow Wow: Secret Child? Great, take care of it. Suicidal Thoughts? Feel better.

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scriptgirl said:

I don't understand this epidemic in the black community-MY community-of babymammas, people not getting married and having kids with multiple people and women left having to raise the kids. Why and where did it all go wrong? Years ago, people were ashamed to have kids out of wedlock. They need to bring that concept back-I am halfway kidding

It's a mystery to me why any young woman would want to be bothered with a child; with all there is to do and the opportunity to do whatever. Parenting is very hard work, your time isn't your own, and you need to be making decent money to care for a child properly. Hence all the problems in our community.... a lot of Black folks are in for a crude awakening as we continue through the 21st century.

TD3 said:

scriptgirl said:

I don't understand this epidemic in the black community-MY community-of babymammas, people not getting married and having kids with multiple people and women left having to raise the kids. Why and where did it all go wrong? Years ago, people were ashamed to have kids out of wedlock. They need to bring that concept back-I am halfway kidding

It's a mystery to me why any young woman would want to be bothered with a child; with all there is to do and the opportunity to do whatever. Parenting is very hard work, your time isn't your own, and you need to be making decent money to care for a child properly. Hence all the problems in our community.... a lot of Black folks are in for a crude awakening as we continue through the 21st century.

Tell it.

allsmutaside said:

HotGritz said:

The hell? I'm not endorsing this fool nor his actions in any kind of way.

This munchkin is singing that old "nigga got jacked for his paper" song but he's trying to clean it up by talking all that mess about loving his baby and his fans. Fuck him and his feelings. Chris Brown is wise for one reason and one reason only: he apparently practices safe sex. No hoodrat has come forward claiming to be the mother of his child. I have to commend him for that as we live in a world with too many "baby mommas" and not enough "co-parenting" and "committed relationships".

Yes, your response is too serious. This is Bow Wow we're talking about, not Trey Songz.

No, I believe my response is just fine. From the information in the original post this has nothing to do with being "jacked for his paper." It is actually starting to sound like that old "black man can't catch a break" song. If you have more facts to share about this it would a different story.

Appearances can be deceiving. Your assumption about C. Brown and his use of birth control because he has no children, that we know of, is ill founded. (Anyway, I thougt Trey Songz was why Bow Wow didn't need to use birth control )

OK maybe I was a little too serious in response to "What man wouldn't fuck her without a condom?" But to answer the question, a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom. (Of course the discussion is deeper and broader than a one line answer, but at it's core the truth is a man who cared about his sexual partner wouldn't fuck her without a condom.)

So if the intent is procreation a condom should still be used?

And your comment about him not needing a condom because of Trey Songz?

You ever heard of STD's?

Being gay doesn't exempt one from using condoms.

I just googled her ass, I'm bout to go to the restroom real quick!!

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"I'm on the pill"

BowWow said:

but fellas yall know how it go

Is this the price for celebrity-hood?...That you can't live your life openly

and honestly because of some desire to appease your fans instead, who do not know you personally?

Clearly Bow Wow needs to get out of the game. The fact that you feel compelled

to hide the birth of your own daughter for fear of disappointing anybody means

that you have lost your fucking mind.

duccichucka said:

Is this the price for celebrity-hood?...That you can't live your life openly

and honestly because of some desire to appease your fans instead, who do not know you personally?

Clearly Bow Wow needs to get out of the game. The fact that you feel compelled

to hide the birth of your own daughter for fear of disappointing anybody means

that you have lost your fucking mind.

I don't see why he was being so secretive anyway.It's not as if he's a "hot" celebritry anymore.Does he even have alot of fans these days?

SoulAlive said:

duccichucka said:

Is this the price for celebrity-hood?...That you can't live your life openly

and honestly because of some desire to appease your fans instead, who do not know you personally?

Clearly Bow Wow needs to get out of the game. The fact that you feel compelled

to hide the birth of your own daughter for fear of disappointing anybody means

that you have lost your fucking mind.

I don't see why he was being so secretive anyway.It's not as if he's a "hot" celebritry anymore.Does he even have alot of fans these days?

I was asking that question myself.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I just googled her ass, I'm bout to go to the restroom real quick!!

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this GIF!

Shoo, i gotta admit the baby's mama is hot!!

Bow Wow, Chris Brown everybody in that scream tour fandom have become messed up adults.

babybugz said:

Bow Wow, Chris Brown everybody in that scream tour fandom have become messed up adults.

Ugh you can say that again.