No, its not. There are literally THOUSANDS of great rock, electronic and jazz artists releasing interesting original music right now. But you have to make an effort to discover them. You may have to wade through some stuff you DON'T like to find the stuff you love. But people will have to stop listening to what mainstream media feeds them and spend that time working at finding the stuff that really fulfills them if they want something different. The good stuff simply isn't being pushed by the "big guys" right now. And because record sales are so slow these days, the little guys don't have the money to do major promotional campaigns anymore. But believe me, if you look for it, there is GREAT stuff out there waiting to be heard.

Some of my younger cousins like this 'jerk rap', although it just sounds like teen girls talking nasty to me.

MickyDolenz said:

Some of my younger cousins like this 'jerk rap', although it just sounds like teen girls talking nasty to me.

Tell them to listen to something classy!

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paniuroczy said:

No it’s not, you’re just lazy. Look harder, man. There is a lot of great music out there today but it doesn’t mean you’ll find it on the top 40 list; you just gotta look around.

For example, lately I’ve been obsessed with arabic music. Sooo goood. So much soul. &I don’t even have to understand it to appreciate the beauty of that music.

See, it doesn’t even have to be in english. I’m always discovering new music, constantly. New and old. That is the beauty of the internet; I can always find something great!

im sorry i can't get into foreign music, i like to atleast understand what is being said.

I think that person is talking about AMERICAN music has died.

arabic music does not have SOUL, unless a black american singer is singing on the track

RKJCNE said:

MickyDolenz said:

Some of my younger cousins like this 'jerk rap', although it just sounds like teen girls talking nasty to me.

Tell them to listen to something classy!

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"I can't even lie, I can't do it when I'm sober" *siiiigh* Really? .... I just... ugh

TylerHippie said:

LayzieKrayzie said:

I'm 20 and I think you're an idiot.

That hurt my feelings...

a lot of people on this forum are rude asses, just curse him out.

I remember when i first join they were hurting my feelings too, I NEVER used to curse either, now if they try to mess with me I will GO crazy on them.

Don't be so nice they will walk over you.

and if anyone doesn't think the majority of mainstream american music is dead, then their an idiot

vainandy said:

paisleypark4 said:

Start listening to the underground! Plenty of choices...Find what type of music you like and ..look for it. It is what we have to do these days...or stick around here, sometimes people know some really good shit (like Dam Funk, Lugo, Sam Sparro, Confection, Bjork ) that will not get play on the radio! Stick around.

That's what I used to do in the 1990s when shit hop took over. I listened to strictly the underground gay house music scene and I partied all night long in a club full of gay people while the above ground straight world was asleep.

However, it's different now. There is no underground gay black scene. It's shit hop and mainstream. There is an underground gay white scene these days but it's that shitty trance music that sounds horrible. If I were to find some underground music that I like these days, I would be listening to it alone and that's no fun. There's nothing like partying with a large group of people and having fun instead of finding something good, listening to it alone, and feeling like you're alone on a desert island because no one else is listening to it. It feels like the rest of the world died and you're the only one that survived and that's a very lonely feeling.

Good music has always been something played in a social setting where people gather, meet new people, and have fun. Nowadays, good music is something to listen to alone and that's ass backwards from the way it used to be.

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you act like gays are a different species or something. lololol

things have changed, but i would think by now you would have accepted how music changed.

TotalAlisa said:

TylerHippie said:

That hurt my feelings...

a lot of people on this forum are rude asses, just curse him out.

I remember when i first join they were hurting my feelings too, I NEVER used to curse either, now if they try to mess with me I will GO crazy on them.

Don't be so nice they will walk over you.

and if anyone doesn't think the majority of mainstream american music is dead, then their an idiot

I think the idiot may be the person who didn't process the thread title. Because it doesn't say, "A Majority of American Mainstream Music Is Dead". It just says, "Music Is Dead", and its not. Not in the slightest. In fact I'd say its stronger than its been at any point in the last decade.

Also, I totally disagree with you advice regarding people being jerk faces here. Acting the same way NEVER helps, or fixes the problem. That's been proven here a thousand times over. They don't know you from a hole in the wall, so just ignore 'em and have discussions with the people who treat you fairly. Without calling them an idiot if at all possible.

Cerebus said:

TotalAlisa said:

a lot of people on this forum are rude asses, just curse him out.

I remember when i first join they were hurting my feelings too, I NEVER used to curse either, now if they try to mess with me I will GO crazy on them.

Don't be so nice they will walk over you.

and if anyone doesn't think the majority of mainstream american music is dead, then their an idiot

I think the idiot may be the person who didn't process the thread title. Because it doesn't say, "A Majority of American Mainstream Music Is Dead". It just says, "Music Is Dead", and its not. Not in the slightest. In fact I'd say its stronger than its been at any point in the last decade.

Also, I totally disagree with you advice regarding people being jerk faces here. Acting the same way NEVER helps, or fixes the problem. That's been proven here a thousand times over. They don't know you from a hole in the wall, so just ignore 'em and have discussions with the people who treat you fairly. Without calling them an idiot if at all possible.

i think the idiot is the person who didn't read all the AMERICAN artist he listed, which would insinuate he was talking about AMERICAN mainstream music.

I think the idiot is a person who just looks at the title, and NOT read and comprehend the whole post. You can catch the jist of what he is saying.

I think the idiot maybe the person who is a hypocrite tell others not call others idiots, when they did themselves.

there are a lot of rude people on this forum. I been here since 2004 i should know.

Even if you don't act the same its not going to fix it, atleast if you say something back they won't mess with you as much. I used to get messed with a lot when i first joined because i let people say shit to me and not say anything back.

just like im say shit right back to you

[Edited 6/23/11 22:27pm]

TotalAlisa said:

I think that person is talking about AMERICAN music has died.

"American" music would be created by the natives, who were here 1st and they didn't speak English. English is a language native to Europe.

TylerHippie said:

If it doesn't have Lil Wayne, Drake( I actually dig him), Nicki Minaj, 808 drums,corny ass eurodance or a techno beat,the subject of money, over mixed hi-hats or excessive use of the "b" and "n-word", it's not a hit.

I'm 19, and this generation is fucking insane. These people are playing the same fucking songs over and over! "Miguel "Sure Thing", that annoying ass Kirt Franklin song, "Far Away" etc...

There needs to be more people like Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga, who actually has talent.

I don't even know what to say anymore...

I fucking hate seeing a rap artist or any artist hold a instrument knowing damn well they can't play the fucking instrument.(T-Pain & Chris Brown "Best Love Song" video, Jay-Z etc...)

Also, I get fucking tired of hearing how some "artist" from this decade, channeled another artist from the 60's 70's or 80's, why the fuck do you need to channel someone? Be original, or at least try.

Hey Tyler,

i have a quick question, are you speaking about AMERICAN MAINSTREAM MUSIC???

TotalAlisa said:

paniuroczy said:

No it’s not, you’re just lazy. Look harder, man. There is a lot of great music out there today but it doesn’t mean you’ll find it on the top 40 list; you just gotta look around.

For example, lately I’ve been obsessed with arabic music. Sooo goood. So much soul. &I don’t even have to understand it to appreciate the beauty of that music.

See, it doesn’t even have to be in english. I’m always discovering new music, constantly. New and old. That is the beauty of the internet; I can always find something great!

im sorry i can't get into foreign music, i like to atleast understand what is being said.

I think that person is talking about AMERICAN music has died.

arabic music does not have SOUL, unless a black american singer is singing on the track

Oh, I've heard some Indians throwin' DOWN. I couldn't believe it but they were. The drums were throbbing, hell, it was like Indian house music. I enjoyed myself.

TotalAlisa said:

vainandy said:

That's what I used to do in the 1990s when shit hop took over. I listened to strictly the underground gay house music scene and I partied all night long in a club full of gay people while the above ground straight world was asleep.

However, it's different now. There is no underground gay black scene. It's shit hop and mainstream. There is an underground gay white scene these days but it's that shitty trance music that sounds horrible. If I were to find some underground music that I like these days, I would be listening to it alone and that's no fun. There's nothing like partying with a large group of people and having fun instead of finding something good, listening to it alone, and feeling like you're alone on a desert island because no one else is listening to it. It feels like the rest of the world died and you're the only one that survived and that's a very lonely feeling.

Good music has always been something played in a social setting where people gather, meet new people, and have fun. Nowadays, good music is something to listen to alone and that's ass backwards from the way it used to be.

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you act like gays are a different species or something. lololol

things have changed, but i would think by now you would have accepted how music changed.

We are a different species. Disco started in our clubs and we're the ones that made house big. We've always had our own underground scene and always partied hard even when straight people were getting into weaker stuff.....until now.

MickyDolenz said:

TotalAlisa said:

I think that person is talking about AMERICAN music has died.

"American" music would be created by the natives, who were here 1st and they didn't speak English. English is a language native to Europe.

lets not nit pic, you know exactly what i mean

I guess you don't call people living in the USA, AMERICANS. Cause if not what do you call them and their music. Cause last time i check people call it American Music. ie AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS

Native American is the correct term for the natives who were here FIRST.

i swear people try to be smart asses

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TotalAlisa said:

Hey Tyler,

i have a quick question, are you speaking about AMERICAN MAINSTREAM MUSIC???

I imagine that this is a worldwide site, so you can't assume that everyone that posts here lives in the USA. "American" can mean anything, like a person living in South America, North America, Central America, etc.

MickyDolenz said:

TotalAlisa said:

Hey Tyler,

i have a quick question, are you speaking about AMERICAN MAINSTREAM MUSIC???

I imagine that this is a worldwide site, so you can't assume that everyone that posts here lives in the USA. "American" can mean anything, like a person living in South America, North America, Central America, etc.

but guess what they call it AMERICAN MUSIC.

which is why we have the AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS.

american can mean all the above, BUT most people just say AMERICA, when they are speaking of the USA, and when they are speaking about both south and north they say AMERICAS.

[Edited 6/29/11 7:01am]

TotalAlisa said:

Native American is the correct term for the natives who were here FIRST.

They didn't call themselves that. How can they be Native Americans (or Columbus calling them Indians), when it was the white immigrants who stole their lands that named the place the United States of America, the ones from Spain who named Mexico, etc.

MickyDolenz said:

TotalAlisa said:

Native American is the correct term for the natives who were here FIRST.

They didn't call themselves that. How can they be Native Americans (or Columbus calling them Indians), when it was the white immigrants who stole their lands that named the place the United States of America, the ones from Spain who named Mexico, etc.

GOING OFF ON A TANGENT

what the HELL does this have to do with?????

AMERICAN MAINSTREAM MUSIC, or even this thread???????

just like africans didn't call themselves africans, how can they be Africans, when the french named their entire continent???? Weren't they originally called nubians????? So what are the "natives" in america called then????

TotalAlisa said:

your just mad about my previous comments

I'm not mad about anything, because I don't know what you said other than saying that something was foreign. It is incorrect to say that non-English music is foreign to the US. English is foreign as well. It is not native to the USA, just as French is not native to Canada, or Spanish to Mexico.

TotalAlisa said:

So what are the "natives" in america called then????

Whatever their individual tribes name were. They didn't have a collective name for everyone in the land, such as Indian, American, Canadian, Russian, Iranian, British, etc. They weren't all the same people or race.

Cerebus said:

Also, I totally disagree with you advice regarding people being jerk faces here. Acting the same way NEVER helps, or fixes the problem. That's been proven here a thousand times over. They don't know you from a hole in the wall, so just ignore 'em and have discussions with the people who treat you fairly. Without calling them an idiot if at all possible.

Negative people can't do anything but hurl out insults. Anybody can say stuff on a computer, but won't do it face to face if they knew who they were talking to. I've heard several stories of people getting beat up or killed because someone arguing online decided to track the other party down. You don't know who you're talking to online. Thugs, KKK, gang members, prisoners, rapists, etc. are on the internet too.

MickyDolenz said:

TotalAlisa said:

I'm not mad about anything, because I don't know what you said other than saying that something was foreign. It is incorrect to say that non-English music is foreign to the US. English is foreign as well. It is not native to the USA, just as French is not native to Canada, or Spanish to Mexico.

Why do you even care????

any language that i cannot understand is foreign to me. The person was talking about arabic music, and YES that is foreign to me.

Just how someone who speaks spanish would consider any other language foreign to them if they do not understand.

So from my point of view YES ITS FOREIGN.

i don't care if its native to the USA, WHAT does this have to do with what this thread is about.

what is your point????... what are you trying to prove???? it still doesn't change the fact, i don't like to listen to music that is not in English and I PREFER American music. I just like to know what they are saying, is that a crime.....

i can tell what i said earlier bothered you, and I know what it was.

You still can't rebutal the fact that American Music is called AMERICAN MUSIC, now you are going off on a tangent that makes no sense, and has nothing to do with nothing, and its not even proving anything wrong, nor is it helping your argument. Your trying to find a way to make what i say wrong, when its NOT. I find this hilarious.

MickyDolenz said:

Cerebus said:

Also, I totally disagree with you advice regarding people being jerk faces here. Acting the same way NEVER helps, or fixes the problem. That's been proven here a thousand times over. They don't know you from a hole in the wall, so just ignore 'em and have discussions with the people who treat you fairly. Without calling them an idiot if at all possible.

Negative people can't do anything but hurl out insults. Anybody can say stuff on a computer, but won't do it face to face if they knew who they were talking to. I've heard several stories of people getting beat up or killed because someone arguing online decided to track the other party down. You don't know who you're talking to online. Thugs, KKK, gang members, prisoners, rapists, etc. are on the internet too.

what are you trying to insinuate, let me know now so i can start the investigation and law suit.

negative can nit pic over bullshit just to start arguments, and since you know all this why are you picking arguments with people online and especially over bullshit, that has no logic.

I Myself am 20, and i agree music is not as great as it once was. But i agree with a lot of these people it's a cliche for people to keep saying music is dead! i mean i just don't listen to the radio

My ipod is my radio & i ignore the rest haha. But in hindsight we do have some underground artists that are very good!, so i just listen to them. I have learned to just live with my ipod and ignore current trends cause it doesn't matter to me.

Enjoy the music you have and that will keep music alive for you

TotalAlisa said:

TylerHippie said:

If it doesn't have Lil Wayne, Drake( I actually dig him), Nicki Minaj, 808 drums,corny ass eurodance or a techno beat,the subject of money, over mixed hi-hats or excessive use of the "b" and "n-word", it's not a hit.

I'm 19, and this generation is fucking insane. These people are playing the same fucking songs over and over! "Miguel "Sure Thing", that annoying ass Kirt Franklin song, "Far Away" etc...

There needs to be more people like Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga, who actually has talent.

I don't even know what to say anymore...

I fucking hate seeing a rap artist or any artist hold a instrument knowing damn well they can't play the fucking instrument.(T-Pain & Chris Brown "Best Love Song" video, Jay-Z etc...)

Also, I get fucking tired of hearing how some "artist" from this decade, channeled another artist from the 60's 70's or 80's, why the fuck do you need to channel someone? Be original, or at least try.

Hey Tyler,

i have a quick question, are you speaking about AMERICAN MAINSTREAM MUSIC???

Yes I am.

TotalAlisa said:

TylerHippie said:

That hurt my feelings...

a lot of people on this forum are rude asses, just curse him out.

I remember when i first join they were hurting my feelings too, I NEVER used to curse either, now if they try to mess with me I will GO crazy on them.

Don't be so nice they will walk over you.

and if anyone doesn't think the majority of mainstream american music is dead, then their an idiot

Well, I'm not sure about that, but it's good not to take it personally. That way you don't get upset and then start saying some crazy shit that only makes you seem mad. At the end of the day no one's opinions changes and life goes on.

Though...it is possible to be nice and respectful at all times. It is.

TotalAlisa said:

paniuroczy said:

No it’s not, you’re just lazy. Look harder, man. There is a lot of great music out there today but it doesn’t mean you’ll find it on the top 40 list; you just gotta look around.

For example, lately I’ve been obsessed with arabic music. Sooo goood. So much soul. &I don’t even have to understand it to appreciate the beauty of that music.

See, it doesn’t even have to be in english. I’m always discovering new music, constantly. New and old. That is the beauty of the internet; I can always find something great!

im sorry i can't get into foreign music, i like to atleast understand what is being said.

I think that person is talking about AMERICAN music has died.

arabic music does not have SOUL, unless a black american singer is singing on the track

How would you even know?? It may not be the kind of soul you're thinking of, it's now what you would define as soul music but there is soul in it.

+if james brown, the godfather of soul thinks he's good, he muuust be right!

HAKIM FTW!

^^Might I add, Hakim has also done a collaboration with Stevie Wonder.

TotalAlisa said:

MickyDolenz said:

I imagine that this is a worldwide site, so you can't assume that everyone that posts here lives in the USA. "American" can mean anything, like a person living in South America, North America, Central America, etc.

be a smart ass all you want.

but guess what they call it AMERICAN MUSIC.

which is why we have the AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS.

american can mean all the above, BUT most people just say AMERICA, when they are speaking of the USA, and when they are speaking about both south and north they say AMERICAS.

your just mad about my previous comments, and want to nic pic over BULLSHIT. go right ahead, and i will keep rebutting.

I think before you go spouting your "knowledge" you should do a bit of research...

Although the American Music Awards is primarily for artists that originate from the United States, international artists like Elton John, Def Leppard, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, George Michael, Rihanna, Enrique Iglesias, Shakira, Justin Bieber, Muse, and the Spice Girls have also won awards on the show, although this is primarily due to their popularity in the United States.

While the Grammy Awards are awarded based on votes by members of the entertainment industry, the AMAs are determined by a poll of music buyers, and as a result is more of a representative of public opinion.

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tinaz said:

TotalAlisa said:

be a smart ass all you want.

but guess what they call it AMERICAN MUSIC.

which is why we have the AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS.

american can mean all the above, BUT most people just say AMERICA, when they are speaking of the USA, and when they are speaking about both south and north they say AMERICAS.

your just mad about my previous comments, and want to nic pic over BULLSHIT. go right ahead, and i will keep rebutting.

I think before you go spouting your "knowledge" you should do a bit of research...

Although the American Music Awards is primarily for artists that originate from the United States, international artists like Elton John, Def Leppard, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, George Michael, Rihanna, Enrique Iglesias, Shakira, Justin Bieber, Muse, and the Spice Girls have also won awards on the show, although this is primarily due to their popularity in the United States.

While the Grammy Awards are awarded based on votes by members of the entertainment industry, the AMAs are determined by a poll of music buyers, and as a result is more of a representative of public opinion.

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[Edited 6/24/11 18:22pm]

LIKE I SAID!!! its still called AMERICAN MUSIC

the whole argument was about me saying this guy was talking about American music,

and i asked him was he talking about AMERICAN MUSIC, and he said YES.

i don't care about technicalities or whatever. Does Celine Dion Live in the USA, almost all those artist you listed live in the US, and record in the US and have American Producers, and sing in english. SO most people CONSIDER it AMERICAN MUSIC.

Thats like me saying if i go to japan, record music in japanese language, and have japanese producers, and produce music of their culture, that its American music, just because im American.

British and Canadians have ALWAYS tried to copy American Music, so with that being said, you can still consider it AMERICAN MUSIC if its played in USA and was made to cater to US Radio.