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Reply #30 posted 06/23/11 7:52am

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TotalAlisa said:

the album isn't as bad as what people making it out to be.

I think beyonce just needs to stop plagiarising and be original.

Stop with the robotic answers and fake good girl personality.

Get rid of the the bleach blond rat nest

STOP WEARING BATHING SUITS

Learn how to dancer other then coochie poppin, and stop yelling and shouting.

That's all she knows. It's too late to stop now.

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Reply #31 posted 06/23/11 7:52am

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Identity said:

Beyonce's very demure new Target ad. wink

1) Why didn't they choose the deluxe cover as the actual cover? At least she wouldn't be lookin' like a strung-out hooker.

2) I seriously wonder if she's gonna be rockin' long blonde tracks and sparkly leotards when she's 50-60 years old...well, if Madge can do it...shrug

Honey, stop talking and just create the music.
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Reply #32 posted 06/23/11 7:55am

Musicslave

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Beyonce's very demure new Target ad. wink

lol Haven't done anything demure since day 1. With that being said, is it me or does "Party" sounds like SWV's song, "That's What I Need"?

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Reply #33 posted 06/23/11 2:42pm

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Identity said:

Beyonce's very demure new Target ad. wink

1) Why didn't they choose the deluxe cover as the actual cover? At least she wouldn't be lookin' like a strung-out hooker.

2) I seriously wonder if she's gonna be rockin' long blonde tracks and sparkly leotards when she's 50-60 years old...well, if Madge can do it...shrug

thing is that the strongest songs are "Lay Up under me" "Schoolin Life" and "Dance For You" this album is better than the others she has done, BDAY being the second best, i didnt like "Dangerously in Love" that much at all, tons of filler and bland songs.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #34 posted 06/23/11 2:50pm

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Although this article reads faker than a mug, I do believe her label is nervous. And they should be. If I remember correctly, usually one week from the release date she'd have either the No. 1 song in the country or something in the Top 10 by now. Their first single didn't generate the buzz that their used to so, I could understand any anxiety.

I definitely don't believe the "reunion" talk either.

Regardless of first week sales, I hope she stands by her music and not abandon it like some others (Ne-Yo, Christina Aguilera) recently. Have some integrity about your shit, damn.

I feel that she needs to stand by it, because its your work and u like it and feel its good than stand by it, if you join in with people shitting on it because it dont sell than u ARE NOT AN ARTIST, any creative person that shits on their own work doesnt deserve to be able to have WORK in my opinion.

The Reunion stuff is NOT going to happen in any way shape or form, if it even comes close to happening it will be without Michelle Williams who will not be part of it and thats straight fact.

The thing is that the label has itself to blame, you are the promoters, this album will do what its going to do regardless, but its up to a label to push it over to people. Im tired of hearing that "Run the World" was a horrible single choice, like she hasnt had BAD songs in the top 10 before, i just think people are just tired of her right now, she has done everything possible but light herself on fire and juggle while singing at this point, but its way too much, the public is bored with her style of singing etc...everyone has their SHINE TIME and then you sink to a level and you have to just accept it or fade away or become someone that is constantly trying to chase your own fame, i hope she is wise enough to accpet her simpler state.


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #35 posted 06/23/11 3:16pm

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Beyonce In Big Trouble If New Album Flops As Predicted

06/23/11 4:53am Roger Friedman

This is a rare marketing and A&R disaster in the making: Beyonce‘s new album, called “4,” will be released officially on Monday in the UK and in the US on Tuesday. It’s a potential dud, big time. Already attacked on Page Six in the New York Post yesterday, “4″ was “leaked” back on June 9th to blogs and on Twitter. Now it’s officially streaming on AOL. You can listen to it and judge for yourselves, but this CD is problematic to say the least.

What’s interesting is that neither Page Six nor some testy blogs have figured out how this happened.

http://music.aol.com/new-releases-full-cds#/1

Blaming Sony’s Rob Stringer is not the answer. I think the responsibility for this debacle will rest withTeresa LaBarbera Whites, senior A&R exec for Columbia Records. Whites has been working with Beyonce since discovering her at the age of 9 in Texas two decades ago. Whites moved back to Columbia from Jive Records earlier this year just to work with Beyonce on this CD. (It was Whites who resuscitated Britney Spears on her last two albums.)

Beyonce has always been in a strange position with her solo albums. Her first hit, “Crazy in Love,” was a reworking of a Chi Lites record, with a huge sample of the horns and rhythm section. Since then she’s had really just a couple of actual hits–”Single Ladies” and “Irreplaceable.” Beyonce herself is not a writer, and she generally has poor song selections. On her last album, the song “If I Were a Boy” was appropriated from young singer songwriter B.C. Jean, who consequently got a recording deal with Clive Davis.


“4″ is very misguided. I’m actually surprised that the collection is so uninspired and has no cohesive vision. The first three tracks are desultory ballads. There’s actually a song called “Rather Die Young.” Really? Beyonce would rather die young? Drop dead gorgeous, married to a hip hop mogul (Jay Z), gifted with a fabulous voice–and she’s singing about dying young? Who allowed such a thing to happen?

Better track sequencing could have really helped “4.” Tracks 8, 9, 10, and 11– the excellent “Love on Top,” the inventive “Countdown,” a very catchy “End of Time,” and “I Was Here” — are the standouts. I would have led with these tracks instead of burying them. (But didn’t Beyonce already have a song called “Until the End of Time”?) The new album has a feeling of being tired, and rushed, and not really thought through in any meaningful way. Those four songs should have been the singles and hits–and featured prominently.

Never at this age did Aretha, Gladys or Tina sound this disengaged from their own work. But — as pointed out in current stories– Beyonce isn’t just a singer. She’s an empire. Her voice is no longer an instrument. It’s a marketing tool. And not a very good one right now.

http://www.showbiz411.com...-predicted

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Reply #36 posted 06/23/11 3:38pm

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I absolutely LOVED "Who Run the World" the first time I heard it! It's actually, in MY opinion, BETTER than "Single Ladies" where it's not only funky (like S.L.'s,) but more anthemic with its feminist, no nonsense approach, which I LOVE. I wasn't a huge fan of "I Am...Sasha Fierce," in all of its incarnations (reissues, deluxe reissue, etc...,) but who really knows what's next for Queen Bey? We'll just have 2 wait and C. I predict another multiplatinum success. As for Destiny's Child...they may have been hot in the 90's, but I don't really see the same hotness in 2012. They're too Old School now. Besides, Miss Kelly's doin' fine enough on her own, as is Michelle. smile

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Reply #37 posted 06/23/11 4:17pm

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musicjunky318 said:

I'm actually excited about the flop. I wanted a Destiny's Child reunion and I guess this is the way I'm gonna get it.

Plus it'll shut up a lot of her stans who think she's bullet-proof and love dragging everybody else through the mud.

falloff

I only like I Miss You , Best Thing I Never Had , Party is my jam (Kanye can do no wrong) that's the only one I have on repeat I think this should be a single. Love On Top and End of Time I like too but overall this album bored me to tears. Oh well

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Reply #38 posted 06/23/11 4:25pm

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I don't know why some people think that a Destiny's Child "reunion" will be a major success.It'll be the same crappy music that Beyonce does,just under a different name biggrin

don't know why, but i laughed my ass off after i read that. it's totally true. lol lol lol

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Reply #39 posted 06/23/11 4:48pm

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The label should be more worried about its dearth of good music! razz

"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato

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Reply #40 posted 06/23/11 5:58pm

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MyNameIsPiper said:

1) Why didn't they choose the deluxe cover as the actual cover? At least she wouldn't be lookin' like a strung-out hooker.

2) I seriously wonder if she's gonna be rockin' long blonde tracks and sparkly leotards when she's 50-60 years old...well, if Madge can do it...shrug

thing is that the strongest songs are "Lay Up under me" "Schoolin Life" and "Dance For You" this album is better than the others she has done, BDAY being the second best, i didnt like "Dangerously in Love" that much at all, tons of filler and bland songs.

I just can't get over how white she has bleached her self. Is she ashamed to be black or something, her music is frothy pop with little or no memorability. She has an average voice, and she can't play any instruments very well (She did play some Piano). This album will spend one week at number 1 and flopparoo to #28 the next week. Sasha Fierce was garbage, this should be even worse.

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Reply #41 posted 06/23/11 9:32pm

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I don't understand how the label is predicting a flop, when Beyonce supposedly turned in over 70 songs from them to pick from. Wouldn't that be there fault? Or was the selection that awful to choose from.

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Reply #42 posted 06/23/11 9:39pm

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Where does all this hateful nonsense come from these days? Its like people just make up some bullshit to stir the pot. BOTH of the songs released thus far are great, far better than most of whats been on her last two solo albums. Just watch, the album will debut at number one with huge sales (well, huge sales for this day and age).

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Reply #43 posted 06/23/11 9:42pm

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Oh, and in case nobody understands what I'm getting at, NO major record label is going to publicize ANY worry of low sales for a major artist. That's the exact OPPOSITE of what they would be doing, even if they though the album was complete shit. Her label is part of the machine, they're going to tell everyone the album is great even if its not. Even after its released, they're still going to tell people its great. Then they're going to release big videos and push all her songs across mulitiple radio formats. Because that's what the machine does. They DON'T talk poorly of one of their biggest artists the week before her new album is released.

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Reply #44 posted 06/23/11 9:57pm

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how does traveling the world influence your music, when your music basically is inspired from the 80s and 90s lol lol

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Reply #45 posted 06/23/11 10:46pm

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Bullshit like this makes me wonder if the labels push albums to fail to keep artists from doing their own thing. It's not the first time the labels have deliberately fucked up an album release to get their way. “Kelly Clarkson won't just do what she's told? Fuck her, let's just tell the world that her album is dog shit.” “Busta Rhymes wants to do a second concept album about Anarchy? Fuck it, lets just tell the world that the album is dog shit and drop him from the label.”

And then they wonder why nobody wants to buy their product.

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