Unholyalliance said:

To those including The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour and White Album, I don't really think you understand the thread. It's kind of hard to put them on par with Fullfillingness and Songs in the Key, for instance. Or Off The Wall and Thriller. The most compelling sequences are the one's (like Stevie's and many others here) where the progression builds peaks with an undisputed masterpiece. Several others here fit into that category, but not The Beatles (even though I love all of those albums.) You can't squeeze the The Beatles into every thread, and any mention of them in this one is off-topic.

Unless it's Ringo Starr!

I Wanna Be Santa Claus

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Liverpool 8

Y Not

(I skipped the brilliant Ringo Rama, as it was a throw away album.)

It's funny. But at the end of the day the Beatles' ENTIRE CAREER fits into the period between Off the Wall and Bad. Kind of hard to compare, don't you think? By the way, I don't disagree with you about Off The Wall and Thriller. Just so I understand you, you're proceeding those with Music & Me and Forever, Michael to come up with that brilliant four album sequence?

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Unholyalliance said:

To those including The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour and White Album, I don't really think you understand the thread. It's kind of hard to put them on par with Fullfillingness and Songs in the Key, for instance. Or Off The Wall and Thriller. The most compelling sequences are the one's (like Stevie's and many others here) where the progression builds peaks with an undisputed masterpiece. Several others here fit into that category, but not The Beatles (even though I love all of those albums.) You can't squeeze the The Beatles into every thread, and any mention of them in this one is off-topic.

Unless it's Ringo Starr!

I Wanna Be Santa Claus

Choose Love

Liverpool 8

Y Not

(I skipped the brilliant Ringo Rama, as it was a throw away album.)

Huh, to me Songs in the Key of Life is vastly overrated and I would rate The Beatles as being the superior album. I'll grant you that "Revolution 9" derails the album a bit but what else is "wrong" with The Beatles?

As far as Magical Mystery Tour goes I would argue that it's not a "real" album and just ignore it.

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Minnie Riperton: Come To My Garden, Perfect Angel, Adventures In Paradise, Stay In Love

rialb said:

Unholyalliance said:

To those including The Beatles Magical Mystery Tour and White Album, I don't really think you understand the thread. It's kind of hard to put them on par with Fullfillingness and Songs in the Key, for instance. Or Off The Wall and Thriller. The most compelling sequences are the one's (like Stevie's and many others here) where the progression builds peaks with an undisputed masterpiece. Several others here fit into that category, but not The Beatles (even though I love all of those albums.) You can't squeeze the The Beatles into every thread, and any mention of them in this one is off-topic.

Unless it's Ringo Starr!

I Wanna Be Santa Claus

Choose Love

Liverpool 8

Y Not

(I skipped the brilliant Ringo Rama, as it was a throw away album.)

Huh, to me Songs in the Key of Life is vastly overrated and I would rate The Beatles as being the superior album. I'll grant you that "Revolution 9" derails the album a bit but what else is "wrong" with The Beatles?

As far as Magical Mystery Tour goes I would argue that it's not a "real" album and just ignore it.

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Totally agree. The White Album is widely regarding as one of the great albums in rock history.

elmer said:

It's a matter of personal taste, that's what you fail to understand. An incremental quality increase over four consecutive albums does not objectively make for a compelling sequence.

It seems to be MJ who wheedles his way into threads like this, time to forget the guy

What's really ironic about these statements from you and the other one I quoted on the top is that this entire thread is really just based on OPINIONS. You, nor anyone else, are in any position to tell people whose work can and can not be posted here. That is unless whatever people chose was supposed to based on your own subjective tastes rather than anyone else's. Careers have nothing to do with this thread, because who gives a flying fuck about that? Obviously not you, because you included Prince in your first post and his career can't even fucking compare to that of the Beatles, at all. In fact, most people wouldn't say that those Prince albums that you posted in the first post can even compare to those 4 Beatles albums you posted unless they were Prince fans in particular. So why only mention it when MJ is brought up into the conversation?

It seems like a double standard on your part. Couple that with the fact that not being able to respect other people's opinions is a very juvenile already.

Here, I will sum up all of your related posts & arguments in one pic:

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was the "Best Four Album Sequences" thread, not the "Name Four Consequtive Albums That You Like" thread.

Anyone can name four albums in a row by an artist they love, but again... that is off topic. There are plenty of my favorite artists that I won't list in this thread becuase they were more sporadic, or tended to throw a "clunker" that wasn't up the the standard of the others.

Compared to Off the Wall and Thriller; Bad, Dangerous, and HIStory were clunkers in that they were not up to the same standard as Off the Wall and Thriller. I think most people will agree with this. Certainly, anyone with a broad view of music will tell you this.

So sick of people bringing up MJ in every thread, like the idiots who are compelled to mention him in the "Name Artists Who Made Great Music Past the Age of 50," thread, when the dude fucking droppped dead as a finacially destitute, nearly homeless has-been who hadn't scored a #1 hit in 15 years, at the age of 50.

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Imaginative said:

Compared to Off the Wall and Thriller; Bad, Dangerous, and HIStory were clunkers in that they were not up to the same standard as Off the Wall and Thriller. I think most people will agree with this. Certainly, anyone with a broad view of music will tell you this.

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I personally agree with this; "Off the Wall" and "Thriller" back to back was far better than anything else he produced later in his career.

I think there are some great things on both "Bad" and "Dangerous" but overall they pale compared to these 2 classics. And "History" isn't even in the conversation. The flaccid cover of "Come Together" alone is a black mark on the album.

^^^^There's no such thing as "best". That's an opinion and snob talk. If I like something, that's all that matters. Those "best" lists always include mostly caucasian (usually rock) acts, and others are ignored.

MickyDolenz said:

^^^^There's no such thing as "best". That's an opinion and snob talk. If I like something, that's all that matters. Those "best" lists always include mostly caucasian (usually rock) acts, and others are ignored.

Then why did you contribute to a thread that is about the "Best Four Album Sequences?"

Imaginative said:

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought this was the "Best Four Album Sequences" thread, not the "Name Four Consequtive Albums That You Like" thread.

Anyone can name four albums in a row by an artist they love...

That's what OP did when they added ATWIAD to their list in the FIRST post.

Imaginative said:

Compared to Off the Wall and Thriller; Bad, Dangerous, and HIStory were clunkers in that they were not up to the same standard as Off the Wall and Thriller. I think most people will agree with this. Certainly, anyone with a broad view of music will tell you this.

So your opinion is objectively right, because some other people share the same opinion?

Imaginative said:

So sick of people bringing up MJ in every thread, like the idots who are compelled to mention him in the "Name Artists Who Made Great Music Past the Age of 50," thread, when the dude fucking droppped dead as finacially destitute, nearly homeless has-been who hadn't had a #1 hit in 15 years, at the age of 50.

LOL Did you not see the Michael Jackson sticky on the top of this forum when you clicked on Music: Non-Prince link? What does that tell you about this sub-forum?

Bone Thugs N Harmony: Creepin' On Ah Come Up/E. 1999 Eternal/The Art Of War/BTNHResurrection

Imaginative said:

MickyDolenz said:

^^^^There's no such thing as "best". That's an opinion and snob talk. If I like something, that's all that matters. Those "best" lists always include mostly caucasian (usually rock) acts, and others are ignored.

Then why did you contribute to a thread that is about the "Best Four Album Sequences?"

Because they thought that this thread was about everyone sharing their subjective opinions rather than some music snobs trying to hijack the thread.

Kiss Dressed to kill-Destroyer-R&R Over-Love Gun (not including the live albums)

Van Halen VH1-VH2-Women&Children-Fair Warning

Janet Control-RN-Janet-Velvet Rope

MJ Off The Wall-Thriller-Bad-Dangerous

Iron Maiden Iron Maiden-Killers-Nr of the beast-Piece of mind

Ozzy Blizzard-Dairy-Bark at the moon-The Ultimate Sin

Prince Purple Rain-ATWIAD-Parade-SOTT

and this 4 album sequence is imo as good as those from The Beatles or Bwab Dylan,

2bad Motley Crue and Jamiroquai have a weak album in their first 4 releases or they were also included.

Stevie (but his more like seven albums): from Where I'm Coming From to Secret Life of Plants

Minnie had it too: Come to My Garden, Perfect Angel, Adventures in Paradise and Stay in Love

Marvin had about six: What's Going On, Trouble Man, Let's Get It On, I Want You, Here, My Dear, In Our Lifetime

Bowie... depends on which ones you prefer, either the Ziggy-era glam rockers or the Berlin period concept albums

Prince: from Dirty Mind to Sign O' The Times but I guess the best sequence is somewhere between 1999 and Sign O' The Times.

Imaginative said:

MickyDolenz said:

^^^^There's no such thing as "best". That's an opinion and snob talk. If I like something, that's all that matters. Those "best" lists always include mostly caucasian (usually rock) acts, and others are ignored.

Then why did you contribute to a thread that is about the "Best Four Album Sequences?"

Because I can put what I like as it asks an opinion. If someone lists what they like, it isn't your job to put that person down because you don't like what they like or it doesn't fit what the white male media promotes as being superior. It's not that serious. "Best" can't be proven, it's an opinion of the listener and his/her taste and what their culture is. Someone who grows up in a Latin music background is not going to choose The Beatles or Led Zeppelin as "best" as that's not what they know or relate to. They might choose Tito Puente, Hector Lavoe, Vicente Fernandez, or Celia Cruz albums. Someone who only listens to hip hop is not going to list Michael Jackson or Willie Nelson records. And so on.

Unholyalliance said:

Unholyalliance said:

Imaginative said:

Then why did you contribute to a thread that is about the "Best Four Album Sequences?"

Because they thought that this thread was about everyone sharing their subjective opinions rather than some music snobs trying to hijack the thread.

It is but Imaginative is loser who wants to shove his opinions down everyone else's throat

aardvark15 said:

Unholyalliance said:

Because they thought that this thread was about everyone sharing their subjective opinions rather than some music snobs trying to hijack the thread.

It is but Imaginative is loser who wants to shove his opinions down everyone else's throat

Trying to understand your broken English is a little hard.

I guess it's only my opinion that an artist releasing four classic, timeless albums over the course of 2, 3 or 4 years is a little more compelling than an artist dribbling out four albums over a nearly 15 years period.

I would venture to say that the OP wishes that he placed some sort of time frame on these "consequtive albums," but I think he assumed it would be obvious to most that they should be close enough to one another to have some sort of relation... as his examples did.

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Unholyalliance said:

Careers have nothing to do with this thread, because who gives a flying fuck about that? Obviously not you, because you included Prince in your first post and his career can't even fucking compare to that of the Beatles, at all. In fact, most people wouldn't say that those Prince albums that you posted in the first post can even compare to those 4 Beatles albums you posted unless they were Prince fans in particular. So why only mention it when MJ is brought up into the conversation?

It seems like a double standard on your part. Couple that with the fact that not being able to respect other people's opinions is a very juvenile already.

Here, I will sum up all of your related posts & arguments in one pic:

You're confused. I didn't bring up Prince or The Beatles in any of my lists. I could have, but they were already mentioned. So far, I have mentioned four album streaks by Miles Davis, The Band, Bee Gees, Fleetwood Mac, The Velvet Underground, Simon and Garfunkel and XTC.

Acts mentioned by others in the thread that I happen to agree with are Beatles (pick any four), Dylan (pick any four from the '60s), Hendrix*, Stevie Wonder, The Rolling Stones, all of which represent the BEST examples of the OPs intention in starting this thread.

Steely Dan, P-Funk (Were they even mentioned? Do we count Parliament and Funkadelic as separate acts?), Talking Heads, among others also had very strong streaks. By definition, a "streak" is, "An unbroken series." Even if the OP didn't use that word, it was strongly implied. Michael Jackson's so-called "streaks" were broken by several long periods of artistic inactivity. This is not an opinion. This is a fact.

This is before we even get to the quality of MJs material, as it compares to Thriller and Off the Wall. Are any of you willing you go to the mat and say any of his material outside of those albums exceeded the quality and standard set by Off the Wall and Thriller? That any of them were as original or as ground-breaking? Or even as enduring?

If so, please come forward and say so. Otherwise, you're bringing up MJ just to hear the sound of your own voice.

* A bit of a cheat as the fourth album was unfinished and released posthumously. Only three that he put his stamp on.

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Imaginative said:

This is before we even get to the quality of MJs material, as it compares to Thriller and Off the Wall. Are any of you willing you go to the mat and say any of his material outside of those albums exceeded the quality and standard set by Off the Wall and Thriller? That any of them were as original or as ground-breaking? Or even as enduring?

If so, please come forward and say so. Otherwise, you're bringing up MJ just to hear the sound of your own voice.

* A bit of a cheat as the fourth album was unfinished and released posthumously. Only three that he put his stamp on.

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Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible were all amazing albums. Bad revolutionized music videos just as much as Thriller did. Bad has amazing grooves on it but is not as good (personally) as the next albums but revolutionized music too and inspired many artists.

Dangerous is an amazing abum. It covers several genres:

New Jack Swing, Rock, Gospel, and just straight pop. Dangerous introduced a Michael that no one had seen before. A smooth talkin' man who knows his way around the block. The music is amazing and some tracks just put a smile on your face. Dangerous was a very very original album.

Next came HIStory. HIStory is a very angry album as it came out after the sex scandal. Tracks like Scream, Earth Song, and This Time Around show pure, beautiful, raw anger. Other songs like Little Susie and Smile are so beautiful that you amost want to cry. Then there's Stranger in Moscow. A beautiful beautiful song whch combines amazing imagery with Michael's feelings of loneliness. Many artists like Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Rihanna, ect. used HIStory as a way to guide there musical journeys.

Next is Invincible. Invincible shows again another adult Michael singing songs like Break of Dawn. A beautiful love song that oozes sensuality. Songs like Threatend and Unbreakable are directed at the former racist Sony president. The songs pretty stated that Michael was still there and he couldn't prevent MJ's music from being published. Songs like Cry and Lost Children bring out the sweet man that is Michael Jackson. Like HIStory, Many artists like Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Rihanna, ect. used Invincible as a way to guide there musical journeys.

I could go into more detail but it would probably be to much for you're troll mind to handle.

Imaginative said:

To those including MJ's Dangerous and HIStory, I don't really think you understand the thread. It's kind of hard to put them on par with Fullfillingness and Songs in the Key, for instance. Or Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. The most compelling sequences are the one's (like Stevie's and many others here) where the progression builds peaks with an undisputed masterpiece. Several others here fit into that category, but not MJ or Janet (even though I love all of those J&L Janet albums.) You can't squeeze the Jackson's into every thread, and any mention of them in this one is off-topic.

Unless it's Joe Jackson!

Look Sharp!

I'm the Man

Beat Crazy

Night & Day

(I skipped the brilliant Jumpin' Jive, as it was a throw away tribute of all covers.)

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not sure , however that does go for hagdonna

:facepalm:

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aardvark15 said:

Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible were all amazing albums.

Cool. Don't let me keep you from enjoying them!

Not sure what Dewrede is trying to convey.

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Imaginative said:

aardvark15 said:

Bad, Dangerous, HIStory, and Invincible were all amazing albums.

Cool. Don't let me keep you from enjoying them!

Not sure what Dewrede is trying to convey.

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I will. Snd U need to stop hating u fuckin troll

elmer said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

Nirvana - Bleach / Nevermind / In Utero / Unplugged in New York

Kick Unplugged's arse outta there, add Incesticide, and I'm with you.

I can live with that

NoVideo said:

rialb said:

Huh, to me Songs in the Key of Life is vastly overrated and I would rate The Beatles as being the superior album. I'll grant you that "Revolution 9" derails the album a bit but what else is "wrong" with The Beatles?

As far as Magical Mystery Tour goes I would argue that it's not a "real" album and just ignore it.

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Totally agree. The White Album is widely regarding as one of the great albums in rock history.

yeah when it was released i have heard that the deal was to bash it because of how disjointed it seemed, and so many songs etc...the usual argument came up that some should have b sides and this was best a single cd, but like Paul said, "who cares its the Beatles, we did it, it sold, great!"

Yeah although i dont feel "songs in the key of life" was overrated, i do feel that "Beatles" album is one of the best double records ever.

great thread Chris!

many stuff I agree on here, I'll add:

Kylie Minogue: Impossible Princess - Light Years - Fever - Body Language (can't bear that i'm leaving out X)

lastdecember said:

NoVideo said:

Totally agree. The White Album is widely regarding as one of the great albums in rock history.

yeah when it was released i have heard that the deal was to bash it because of how disjointed it seemed, and so many songs etc...the usual argument came up that some should have b sides and this was best a single cd, but like Paul said, "who cares its the Beatles, we did it, it sold, great!"

Yeah although i dont feel "songs in the key of life" was overrated, i do feel that "Beatles" album is one of the best double records ever.

I see that I described Songs in the Key of Life as being "vastly overrated." That's probably going too far but I definitely think it is somewhat overrated. Double albums are often viewed as masterpieces due to their ambition but for me Songs in the Key of Life is probably the weakest of his classic era, it's certainly the least consistent and inferior to Talking Book and Innervisions. A few of the songs go on for much too long and wear out their welcome, I don't think that's true of his other albums from that era. It's still a great album but I'll never understand why it is universally hailed as his greatest.

The Beatles I find interesting for it's diffuseness. The songs are (mostly) great but the band seems to be pulling in different directions. I certainly wouldn't call it a cohesive and focused album but I think that's part if its charm.

rialb said:

lastdecember said:

yeah when it was released i have heard that the deal was to bash it because of how disjointed it seemed, and so many songs etc...the usual argument came up that some should have b sides and this was best a single cd, but like Paul said, "who cares its the Beatles, we did it, it sold, great!"

Yeah although i dont feel "songs in the key of life" was overrated, i do feel that "Beatles" album is one of the best double records ever.

I see that I described Songs in the Key of Life as being "vastly overrated." That's probably going too far but I definitely think it is somewhat overrated. Double albums are often viewed as masterpieces due to their ambition but for me Songs in the Key of Life is probably the weakest of his classic era, it's certainly the least consistent and inferior to Talking Book and Innervisions. A few of the songs go on for much too long and wear out their welcome, I don't think that's true of his other albums from that era. It's still a great album but I'll never understand why it is universally hailed as his greatest.

The Beatles I find interesting for it's diffuseness. The songs are (mostly) great but the band seems to be pulling in different directions. I certainly wouldn't call it a cohesive and focused album but I think that's part if its charm.

I agree with you on your assessment of both the White Album and Songs in the Key of Life.

I respect Stevie but I've never really been able to get into his music that much. It just seems a slog to get through it. I do love R&B/pop and all types of stuff, but maybe it's his voice, maybe it's just his style, I dunno... I wouldn't really judge his albums one way or the other because he's just not for me personally, but others that I know and respect admire his work greatly. But I can't get through

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Rayan said:

great thread Chris!

many stuff I agree on here, I'll add:

Kylie Minogue: Impossible Princess - Light Years - Fever - Body Language (can't bear that i'm leaving out X)

I am so lacking in my Kylie collection!! I really need to take the time to delve into more of her stuff. I've enjoyed pretty much everything I've heard from her, and i have some friends who are HUGE Kylie fans.

rialb said: