sigers1 said:

armpit said:

You guys are handling this Sigers dude all wrong.

You should've just linked him to the craziest fan forum, and let him go join and post this shit over there and get verbally disemboweled.

Hi ite not shit. He did sleep in the same bed as kids, he did abuse drugs and he did mistreat his child by dangling out of a window, that is the truth. MJ fans should not throw mud or questions the honesty of others when his own life and honesty should be put into question

I slept with an adult when I was 12 too my neighbor who was a family friend had to babysit me all night and we watched this movie together in the basement and she fell asleep on the floor so I just decided to sleep next to her..Oh and I went to my friends' birthday party which was a slumber party when I was young and my friends and I slept on the same bed with her aunt...

sigers1 said:

armpit said:

You guys are handling this Sigers dude all wrong.

You should've just linked him to the craziest fan forum, and let him go join and post this shit over there and get verbally disemboweled.

Hi ite not shit. He did sleep in the same bed as kids, he did abuse drugs and he did mistreat his child by dangling out of a window, that is the truth. MJ fans should not throw mud or questions the honesty of others when his own life and honesty should be put into question

Have you thought that maybe all those things have been discussed in this thread. ALL of those issues have been talked about in these threads about him since he died. We all acknowledge that he had made questionable decisions in his life and many of them had consequences to them

BUT at the same time, those aren't the only things that epitomiz Michael Jackson. If you look at this section of the Org, there are threads dedicated to MANY artists who made less than desirable decisions

Marvin Gaye used drugs and alcohol, had a relationship with a 17 year old girl, and allegedly pimped his wife out to other men

Pete Townsend was in trouble for being on a child pornography site

Bootsy Collins, Miles Davis, Sly Stone, and James Brown all had issues with drugs and alcohol

Heck, even the inspiration of this site was accused of pursuing Mayte and Anna Fantastic when they were 16-17 (although he waited until they were of age)

We can make a list of artists that we discuss on this site that made questionable decisions and it would be LONG

BUT that doesn't epitomize who they were

Michael Jackson, with his flaws, was still a good hearted person and that is why fans get annoyed when someone constantly trolls and would rather focus on the positive

How many discussions on the Berlin incidents, or the Martin Bashir interview, or the 2005 trial can we have? Not to mention fans VIVIDLY remember those moments and would rather NOT talk about them

People on this thread aren't throwing mud. What you're doing is constantly posting negativity, snarking, and not contributing to the thread

that's called TROLLING

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bboy87 said:

sigers1 said:

armpit said: Hi ite not shit. He did sleep in the same bed as kids, he did abuse drugs and he did mistreat his child by dangling out of a window, that is the truth. MJ fans should not throw mud or questions the honesty of others when his own life and honesty should be put into question

Have you thought that maybe all those things have been discussed in this thread. ALL of those issues have been talked about in these threads about him since he died. We all acknowledge that he had made questionable decisions in his life and many of them had consequences to them

BUT at the same time, those aren't the only things that epitomiz Michael Jackson. If you look at this section of the Org, there are threads dedicated to MANY artists who made less than desirable decisions

Marvin Gaye used drugs and alcohol, had a relationship with a 17 year old girl, and allegedly pimped his wife out to other men

Pete Townsend was in trouble for being on a child pornography site

Bootsy Collins, Miles Davis, Sly Stone, and James Brown all had issues with drugs and alcohol

Heck, even the inspiration of this site was accused of pursuing Mayte and Anna Fantastic when they were 16-17 (although he waited until they were of age)

We can make a list of artists that we discuss on this site that made questionable decisions and it would be LONG

BUT that doesn't epitomize who they were

Michael Jackson, with his flaws, was still a good hearted person and that is why fans get annoyed when someone constantly trolls and would rather focus on the positive

How many discussions on the Berlin incidents, or the Martin Bashir interview, or the 2005 trial can we have? Not to mention fans VIVIDLY remember those moments and would rather NOT talk about them

People on this thread aren't throwing mud. What you're doing is constantly posting negativity, snarking, and not contributing to the thread

that's called TROLLING

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Thanks for typing that out, bboy. I don't have the energy to do this anymore.

mjforever said:

Oh goodness yeah.

"Whatever you thought about Michael Jackson is correct because it is more about who you are being than it is about Michael because he wasn’t just the man in the mirror, he was the mirror." Barbara Kaufmann

mjforever said:

"Whatever you thought about Michael Jackson is correct because it is more about who you are being than it is about Michael because he wasn’t just the man in the mirror, he was the mirror." Barbara Kaufmann

Good one.

How could someone resist him?

sigers1 said:

Hi ite not shit. He did sleep in the same bed as kids,

Yes, he did. He admit it by himself.In national TV. How many pedophiles have you seen admitting on National TV that they like to hung out with kids and permit with them. I personally none. Pedophile usually try to hide their interest in kids. Jackson since he was young he always declared his love. Since when loving a child has became illegal and criminal? And by the way, did you know that both kids ,Jordan Chandler and Gavin Arvizo, when asked about the police how did they felt about MJ and why did they kept returning back to him, they said that they weren't afraid of him and that they had fan spending time with him. This was, according to them, while Jackson was molesting them. And you want me to believe that a kid is having fan spending time with the man that allegedly molests them? No, man it doesn't work like that. As a person who have experience molestation myself, am telling you that those boys were lying the worst possible way. When you are molested by someone or rapped by someone, even the perfume of that person is enough to make you want to vomit or cry or whatever.

he did abuse drugs

Yes, perscription drugs but if you want them to be cocain,or heroin be my guest. But again i and plenty of people here pointed you some other musician who did real drugs.Do you have the same problem with them or is it Jackson that you have a specific problem with?

and he did mistreat his child by dangling out of a window, that is the truth.

Yes, we said that that was a very bad and stupid move and he almost got his kids taken away from him. What alse do you want us to say? You have made mistakes in your life. Do you like to have people pointing them out to you on your every move? Just because he did this mistake doesn't make him a monster or a person worth being crusified. My aunt almost burn my cousin to death with hot water but does that mean that she didn't love my cousin. No, she adores him but she made a terrible mistake. People make mistakes. It's human nature.

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MJ fans should not throw mud or questions the honesty of others when his own life and honesty should be put into question

If you are refering to the recent Aaron Carter interview then it is amazing to see how easy people believe the worst about MJ. Did you know that Aaron Carter, when Jackson was still alive, defended him and repetedly say that Jackson was a very cool guy? So now, now that Jackson is dead and can't defend himself, now that Aaron Carter has financial problems and a cd to promote, now he remembered that Jackson gave him cocain and wine (Which by the way later this week he denied saying that, just so you know) So this guys credibility is also questionable. He has lied repetedly. Why you chose to believe him. Why people WISH that he has really said this things? WHY? Because they want to have a reason to have Jackson. They want to have a reason to justify their irrational hate that they have regarging MJ. I bet if someone said that Jackson was responsible for the Second Word War, and Jackson was alive during the period, people would believe it. Because thay would believe anything regarding this man without a single proof.

Did you see that this Aaron Carter story circulated without anyone making a simple fact checking? Just copy and paste. This happended with the allegations regarding Jackson in 1993 and 2003. Few were the journalists who checked the informations that they printed. That's why so many people believe that the dude would go to prison and they were shocked when he didn't. The media didn't report anything factual that was going on in that court room.

Now, if you have a problem with Jackson saying that he let kids sleep in his room, if you want to believe that he was a pedophile by that , then go ahead, you have every right to do so. But because i have read everything regarding Jackson, regarding the accusations made against him, i can tell you that the dude was innocent and that there was not a single evidence that he did stuff to kid. On the contrary, there are overwhelming amount of evidence that he was a victim of gready parents, of his fame and of his different phisical appearence and life style.

But as i said, you can believe whatever you want. You can wish that what that Aaron Carter said is true but the thing is just because he said it don't make it a fact. I can say a lot of things for a lot of people for deferent reasons. Would you believe it if i didn't have proofs? NO! Why you chose to believe the worst about Jackson? Why don't you learn both sides of the story and then judge a situation?

I could suggest you some pretty cool articles and esays regarding Jackson, the media and the allegations and you would see by yourself why people defend Jackson but i know that it would be futile because you have obviously made up your mind. But so you know, its better to know both sides of a story and them make up your mind.

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sigers1 said:

Hi ite not shit. He did sleep in the same bed as kids, he did abuse drugs and he did mistreat his child by dangling out of a window, that is the truth. MJ fans should not throw mud or questions the honesty of others when his own life and honesty should be put into question

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Can't believe y'all still feeding the troll... move it the fuck on. Shit!

Troll got the boot.

Move along.........

Thank you, luv4u!!!!

Moving on, indeed. Guys...I thought this was pretty funny...the audacity of some fans eh?

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Thank you, luv4u!!!!

Moving on, indeed. Guys...I thought this was pretty funny...the audacity of some fans eh?

I remembered that story.

WaterInYourBath said:

mjforever said:

Oh goodness yeah.

Oooooooh, baby!

Too gorgeous!

^ If I'm not mistaken, this comes from the rehearsal of the tenth anniversary MTV show.

Timmy84 said:

^ If I'm not mistaken, this comes from the rehearsal of the tenth anniversary MTV show.

Yeah, you're right. I remember that outfit. He was watching the pyrotechnic rehearsal and he kept his distance: "I'ma get back; I was burned because of this kinda stuff."

MyNameIsPiper said:

Timmy84 said:

^ If I'm not mistaken, this comes from the rehearsal of the tenth anniversary MTV show.

Yeah, you're right. I remember that outfit. He was watching the pyrotechnic rehearsal and he kept his distance: "I'ma get back; I was burned because of this kinda stuff."

That's why he didn't have a lot of pyros during the Bad tour.

dag said:

How could someone resist him?

I would've loved to hang out with this dude for a day! Just be silly and not give a fuck.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Thank you, luv4u!!!!

Ahh gee thank you

I was away for the weekend - what I miss?

Oh, never mind - trolls being trolls. I sometimes think they are the same people under various profiles to try and look like they have support for their opinions.

Oh well - back to the music.

Old news - but still a fun story.

'Simpsons' Bombshell -- The TRUTH About MJ Song!!!

6/27/2011 10:16 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Michael Jackson hand-picked an MJ voice impersonator to sing the famous "Happy Birthday Lisa" song featured on "The Simpsons" back in 1991 ... this according to Lisa herself, Yeardley Smith.


Smith was outside the Red O restaurant in L.A. this weekend, when she explained, "[Michael] was not allowed to sing on the show, so he literally hand-picked a guy to sing like him."

During the famous episode, "Stark Raving Dad," Michael provided the voice to a mental patient who thought he was MJ ... but according to reports, Jackson's record label blocked MJ from singing the Lisa birthday song.

MJ ultimately selected a man named Kipp Lennon -- and Yeardley explains, "How unnerving would it be to sing like Michael Jackson in front of Michael Jackson?"

We called Kipp to find out -- so far, no response.

Love that rehearsal pic!

And I'm glad mods did their work to block out trolls.

alphastreet said:

Love that rehearsal pic!

And I'm glad mods did their work to block out trolls.

And thanks to those that report the trolls. Helps the mods do their work.

luv4u said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Thank you, luv4u!!!!

Ahh gee thank you

No, thank you for letting us keep this thread going

We know how we MJ fans get on some Prince fans' nerves

Is anyone else at least comforted with the fact that LA Reid is now in charge of Epic Records? Knowing how much respect he had for MJ, I don't think he'll allow any subpar new MJ album to come out.

Ever wondered what Mike and the kids liked to eat on long airplane trips? I like how he controlled the kid's diets. Makin' sure they eat healthy. Such a good father... His choice of food however...3 times a day?? I love this man...

amit1234 said:

Is anyone else at least comforted with the fact that LA Reid is now in charge of Epic Records? Knowing how much respect he had for MJ, I don't think he'll allow any subpar new MJ album to come out.

I don't know just yet. But I'll keep a close eye on him...

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Ever wondered what Mike and the kids liked to eat on long airplane trips? I like how he controlled the kid's diets. Makin' sure they eat healthy. Such a good father... His choice of food however...3 times a day?? I love this man...

@ the beverage preferences.

Timmy84 said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Ever wondered what Mike and the kids liked to eat on long airplane trips? I like how he controlled the kid's diets. Makin' sure they eat healthy. Such a good father... His choice of food however...3 times a day?? I love this man...

@ the beverage preferences.

I shook my head at the Crown Royal and Orange Crush

that's the Joe in Michael right there