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Reply #540 posted 07/01/11 3:57pm

Unholyalliance

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I think it is really disrespectful to call MJ a troll

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Reply #541 posted 07/01/11 4:07pm

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sigers1 said:

Unholyalliance said:

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I think it is really disrespectful to call MJ a troll, it was possibly all the prescribed drugs he was taking that made him do that to his child, he did do it did't he, if that was your neighbour doing that you would call the police wouldn't you?

Unholyalliance was talking to you, asshole.

First there was MOL, now there's you. Why don't you take your hateful and disrespectful banter somewhere else, because it's not welcome here.

Your flawed conclusions only make you look an idiot more than anything.

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Reply #542 posted 07/01/11 4:59pm

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http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Wembley/NewsandFeatures/2011/Wembley-greatest-event-winner-Muse

In 1988 Michael filled Wembley Stadium for a record seven nights. The run brought him a record breaking total Wembley audience of 504,000 spectators. Now 57,869 people have voted for Wembley’s Greatest Event Ever. The results are in and Michael’s Bad Tour has been voted Wembley’s second greatest event ever.

British pop band Muse was crowned Wembley’s Greatest Event Ever.

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #543 posted 07/01/11 10:42pm

sigers1

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http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Wembley/NewsandFeatures/2011/Wembley-greatest-event-winner-Muse



In 1988 Michael filled Wembley Stadium for a record seven nights. The run brought him a record breaking total Wembley audience of 504,000 spectators. Now 57,869 people have voted for Wembley’s Greatest Event Ever. The results are in and Michael’s Bad Tour has been voted Wembley’s second greatest event ever.

British pop band Muse was crowned Wembley’s Greatest Event Ever.



The facts ar wrong the record for Wembley is now held by Take That who have sold out 8 nights, this is massive achievement compared to MJ because aside from a large outdoor concert in Aintree Wembley was MJ's only Uk gigs, in addition to Wembley Take That are playing another 20 Stadium gigs in the UK. Even in 1988 MJ could not have done that. As far as the UK is concerned Take That are the reals Kings of Pop, Muse the Kings of Rock. In terms of his Wembley record Take That Beat It!
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Reply #544 posted 07/01/11 11:32pm

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bboy87 said:

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Wembley/NewsandFeatures/2011/Wembley-greatest-event-winner-Muse

In 1988 Michael filled Wembley Stadium for a record seven nights. The run brought him a record breaking total Wembley audience of 504,000 spectators. Now 57,869 people have voted for Wembley’s Greatest Event Ever. The results are in and Michael’s Bad Tour has been voted Wembley’s second greatest event ever.

British pop band Muse was crowned Wembley’s Greatest Event Ever.

The facts ar wrong the record for Wembley is now held by Take That who have sold out 8 nights, this is massive achievement compared to MJ because aside from a large outdoor concert in Aintree Wembley was MJ's only Uk gigs, in addition to Wembley Take That are playing another 20 Stadium gigs in the UK. Even in 1988 MJ could not have done that. As far as the UK is concerned Take That are the reals Kings of Pop, Muse the Kings of Rock. In terms of his Wembley record Take That Beat It!

Yeah we know that....

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Reply #545 posted 07/01/11 11:38pm

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more audio from the July 16, 1988 Wembley show leaked

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Reply #546 posted 07/02/11 12:22am

sigers1

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more audio from the July 16, 1988 Wembley show leaked






I went to this concert and there was a fair bit of miming on certain songs which was not so obvious from the front but obvious if u were watching on the big video screens.
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Reply #547 posted 07/02/11 1:41am

Unholyalliance

sigers1 said:

The facts ar wrong the record for Wembley is now held by Take That who have sold out 8 nights, this is massive achievement compared to MJ because aside from a large outdoor concert in Aintree Wembley was MJ's only Uk gigs, in addition to Wembley Take That are playing another 20 Stadium gigs in the UK. Even in 1988 MJ could not have done that. As far as the UK is concerned Take That are the reals Kings of Pop, Muse the Kings of Rock. In terms of his Wembley record Take That Beat It!

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Reply #548 posted 07/02/11 3:06am

sigers1

Unholyalliance said:



sigers1 said:


The facts ar wrong the record for Wembley is now held by Take That who have sold out 8 nights, this is massive achievement compared to MJ because aside from a large outdoor concert in Aintree Wembley was MJ's only Uk gigs, in addition to Wembley Take That are playing another 20 Stadium gigs in the UK. Even in 1988 MJ could not have done that. As far as the UK is concerned Take That are the reals Kings of Pop, Muse the Kings of Rock. In terms of his Wembley record Take That Beat It!



Now that surprising as an MJ fan because theirs minors in the picture wack away!
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Reply #549 posted 07/02/11 4:13am

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Reply #550 posted 07/02/11 9:25am

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Some years ago Aaron and Nick Carter were on the Howard Stern show defending Michael Jackson

http://youtu.be/HtURiWjGM8o

Nick: I was there with him and Mike. So I saw what happened.
Aaron: Yeah, it was actually me and Mike and -
Howard: Did you have sleep overs with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: No, never. You know what, actually, Chris Tucker was there too and Rodney Jerkins, he was producing his album.
Howard: Wait, Nick, how does your brother end up at Michael Jackson's place?
Nick: We had gone there with...
Aaron: It was his birthday party.
Nick: It was his birthday party and Mike Tyson was there and...
: How do you get invited?
Nick: Him and Aaron were friends.
Howard: Now how do you become friends with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: Well we met him through Rodney Jerkins, he was in the studio and he wanted to meet the both of us.
Howard: Now when Michael met you he was very interested in you, wasn't he?
Aaron: No, I don't think he was interested like everybody portrays him to be. He's definitely - he's definitely -
Howard: Did he give you a car?
Aaron: No, never.
Howard: Is he viewing this situation wrong, Nick?
Nick: No, no, I'm going to defend him -
Aaron: You don't even need to. You don't even need to. Because it really pisses me off that people would think about Michael like that because...
Howard: I do.
Aaron: Well, you're wrong. You're wrong, Howard. You're wrong, Howard!
Howard: How old are you now?
Aaron: Eighteen.
Howard: How old were you at the time Michael Jackson was hanging out with you?
Aaron: Fifteen.
Howard: Okay, you were fifteen. How old was he, in his forties?
Aaron: I don't know, fifty or something?
Howard: Why is he buying you a car?
Aaron: He never did.
Howard: Did he buy you a lot of expensive gifts? Be honest.
Aaron: No. He gave me a jacket that he wore for the 2001 anniversary that he did with his brothers.
Howard: Would you ever hang out with him at his house?
Aaron: Yeah.
Does he want to hang out with you now?
Aaron: No, I haven't spoken to him for...
You're too old, you're too old. You're getting a beard.
Aaron: That's so mean.
Nick: I went there and saw what happened. But I got some slack later from my mum because she was like "Why did you leave him at that house?" and stuff.
Oh you left him there?
Nick: No, let me explain. What happened was we went there, we hung out, we literally hung out with all these people and I'm not going to lie... it's a little awkward, a little weird, a little different, you know, it's not like everyone else's life. But he's a nice guy.
Aaron: Automatically, automatically already in your head -
Howard: Did you smoke weed with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: No, never, nu-uh.
Howard: Tell the truth, raise your right hand.
Aaron: (raising hand) I swear I never smoked weed with Michael Jackson.
Howard: Did you drink wine with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: No, it's not true, none of this is true.
Howard: Why did you leave Aaron alone with Michael Jackson? What happened?
Aaron: Not a damned thing.
Nick: It was fine, he hung out, Chris Tucker was there. I left because it was a little weird at that point, I had to go - to be honest, there was a girl I took home from that party back home and I couldn't stay long.
Aaron: I saw Michael take a girl home from his own party too.
Howard: Really?
Aaron: Yeah. And I stayed in the movie theatre...
Where there any girls there?
Aaron: Chris Tucker was staying in the movie theatre and I stayed on the other side of the movie theatre.
Howard: Did he put his arms around you, did he touch you?
Aaron: Never, never.
Howard: Did he ever suggest you have a sleep over?
Aaron: No, never, never heard anything like that.

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Reply #551 posted 07/02/11 9:34am

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mjforever said:

Too hot.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #552 posted 07/02/11 10:16am

sigers1

dag said:



mjforever said:




Too hot.


Too Hot is what Jordie Chandler said to MJ can u turn off the electric blanket
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Reply #553 posted 07/02/11 10:29am

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I didn't know he played Bad on the Dangerous tour. This sounds cool.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #554 posted 07/02/11 10:54am

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I'm sorry but to all the people who are saying Aaron Carter was duped and is a good guy, listen to this interview clip. This kid strikes me as like a younger Corey Feldman. By that, I mean, back in 2004, Feldman would be on TV shows, implying bad things about Michael. Saying things that made Michael seemed creepy, but never going over board to say he molested him. Cus he knows if he says too much, he might be crossing a legal line, and he also knows nothing happened. (This punk defended MJ nermous times before this.) It is also like Feldman because he started out saying good things, then when he realized he'd get more print/more MONEY, to slam Michael, let the bullshit begin.

And the nerve of him to wear that jacket Michael gave him, and call, his punkass interview a tribute. I hope this media leech gets what he wants and the attention eats him alive. Punk ass-no-talent-bitch.

Watch at your own risk. I was tempted to punch the screen. What a no talent backstabbing jerk.

Should change his last name to Arvizo.

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Reply #555 posted 07/02/11 11:09am

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I'm sorry but to all the people who are saying Aaron Carter was duped and is a good guy, listen to this interview clip. This kid strikes me as like a younger Corey Feldman. By that, I mean, back in 2004, Feldman would be on TV shows, implying bad things about Michael. Saying things that made Michael seemed creepy, but never going over board to say he molested him. Cus he knows if he says too much, he might be crossing a legal line, and he also knows nothing happened. (This punk defended MJ nermous times before this.) It is also like Feldman because he started out saying good things, then when he realized he'd get more print/more MONEY, to slam Michael, let the bullshit begin.

And the nerve of him to wear that jacket Michael gave him, and call, his punkass interview a tribute. I hope this media leech gets what he wants and the attention eats him alive. Punk ass-no-talent-bitch.

Watch at your own risk. I was tempted to punch the screen. What a no talent backstabbing jerk.

Should change his last name to Arvizo.

When is this interview from?

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #556 posted 07/02/11 12:19pm

mjpersempre

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This forum is crazy, Mike made some good tunes but why would u be surprised if he did actually give a child some coke

That you don't know. Same can be said about all the other people and artists out there. But in this case Aaron Carter, before Jackson died, defended MJ and in lots of interviews he vehemetly denied implications of any kind. Why now, after Jackson's death, now that Carter faces finacial problems, now that he has a cd coming up, now he remembered about coce/wine or whetever?

not being funny on the scheme of things that is a lot less worse than dangling your baby out of a hotel window in the UK that would be deemed as abuse of a child.

This was a very stupid move from MJ's part. He did a very big mistake like those fathers who throw their babies in the air and cauch them or those parents in India who throw their babies from the roof of their house because a tradition or like that Crocodile man who put his baby on the mouth of a crocodile. People do very stupid things some times. I have done many stupid things, i bet you have too. But in my case and in yours there is not someone who is costantly reminding us of that mistake. So we are furtunate about that.

Look Michael was great but he was a drug addict

Actually he was an addict to pain killers.You know, when the pain is so unberable that you would do anything to stop it. But anyway. There are other artists who are also drug addicts, i mean Real drug - cocain, crack, heroin- addicts. That doesn't take something away from them. Am sure that there must be artist that you like who are crack heads.

and did sleep in a bed with minors deal with it,

Yes, he did. Sleeping with someone though doesn't mean f*cking him. Those kinds and parents wanted to be in his room, Jackson let them. He was a Super Star and people wanted to see how he lived, where he slept etc. Just like people want to see Elvis Presley's house. None of those kids said that Jackson did something to them. Only two parent accused Jackon of innapropriate behaviour and instead of going emediately to the police, they were asking money from him.

there is no conspiracy,what would be the benefit,

Unfortunatelly, yes it seems that there is. Money is the word.

now turn up Billie Jean and moonwalk to your hearts content

Yes, i might do that exept from the moonwalk thing. I never learned how to do that ish.

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Reply #557 posted 07/02/11 12:47pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Some years ago Aaron and Nick Carter were on the Howard Stern show defending Michael Jackson

http://youtu.be/HtURiWjGM8o

Nick: I was there with him and Mike. So I saw what happened.
Aaron: Yeah, it was actually me and Mike and -
Howard: Did you have sleep overs with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: No, never. You know what, actually, Chris Tucker was there too and Rodney Jerkins, he was producing his album.
Howard: Wait, Nick, how does your brother end up at Michael Jackson's place?
Nick: We had gone there with...
Aaron: It was his birthday party.
Nick: It was his birthday party and Mike Tyson was there and...
: How do you get invited?
Nick: Him and Aaron were friends.
Howard: Now how do you become friends with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: Well we met him through Rodney Jerkins, he was in the studio and he wanted to meet the both of us.
Howard: Now when Michael met you he was very interested in you, wasn't he?
Aaron: No, I don't think he was interested like everybody portrays him to be. He's definitely - he's definitely -
Howard: Did he give you a car?
Aaron: No, never.
Howard: Is he viewing this situation wrong, Nick?
Nick: No, no, I'm going to defend him -
Aaron: You don't even need to. You don't even need to. Because it really pisses me off that people would think about Michael like that because...
Howard: I do.
Aaron: Well, you're wrong. You're wrong, Howard. You're wrong, Howard!
Howard: How old are you now?
Aaron: Eighteen.
Howard: How old were you at the time Michael Jackson was hanging out with you?
Aaron: Fifteen.
Howard: Okay, you were fifteen. How old was he, in his forties?
Aaron: I don't know, fifty or something?
Howard: Why is he buying you a car?
Aaron: He never did.
Howard: Did he buy you a lot of expensive gifts? Be honest.
Aaron: No. He gave me a jacket that he wore for the 2001 anniversary that he did with his brothers.
Howard: Would you ever hang out with him at his house?
Aaron: Yeah.
Does he want to hang out with you now?
Aaron: No, I haven't spoken to him for...
You're too old, you're too old. You're getting a beard.
Aaron: That's so mean.
Nick: I went there and saw what happened. But I got some slack later from my mum because she was like "Why did you leave him at that house?" and stuff.
Oh you left him there?
Nick: No, let me explain. What happened was we went there, we hung out, we literally hung out with all these people and I'm not going to lie... it's a little awkward, a little weird, a little different, you know, it's not like everyone else's life. But he's a nice guy.
Aaron: Automatically, automatically already in your head -
Howard: Did you smoke weed with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: No, never, nu-uh.
Howard: Tell the truth, raise your right hand.
Aaron: (raising hand) I swear I never smoked weed with Michael Jackson.
Howard: Did you drink wine with Michael Jackson?
Aaron: No, it's not true, none of this is true.
Howard: Why did you leave Aaron alone with Michael Jackson? What happened?
Aaron: Not a damned thing.
Nick: It was fine, he hung out, Chris Tucker was there. I left because it was a little weird at that point, I had to go - to be honest, there was a girl I took home from that party back home and I couldn't stay long.
Aaron: I saw Michael take a girl home from his own party too.
Howard: Really?
Aaron: Yeah. And I stayed in the movie theatre...
Where there any girls there?
Aaron: Chris Tucker was staying in the movie theatre and I stayed on the other side of the movie theatre.
Howard: Did he put his arms around you, did he touch you?
Aaron: Never, never.
Howard: Did he ever suggest you have a sleep over?
Aaron: No, never, never heard anything like that.

I honestly want to snap Howard Stern's neck. He's even worse here than when he was on Piers. disbelief

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"When you close your heart, you close your mind." - Michael Jackson (Man In The Mirror)

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Reply #558 posted 07/02/11 3:00pm

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let's just move past the Carter crap and talk about the music

lol at the impersonator

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Reply #559 posted 07/02/11 4:14pm

sigers1

mjpersempre said:


sigers1 said:



This forum is crazy, Mike made some good tunes but why would u be surprised if he did actually give a child some coke




That you don't know. Same can be said about all the other people and artists out there. But in this case Aaron Carter, before Jackson died, defended MJ and in lots of interviews he vehemetly denied implications of any kind. Why now, after Jackson's death, now that Carter faces finacial problems, now that he has a cd coming up, now he remembered about coce/wine or whetever?



The point is this site is quick to be attack Carter, Fieldman, Bashir et al it is not normal for a grown man to sleep in the same bed with kids if this was your uncle, father, neighbour doing the same thing would you support it? I don't know of any other pop stars of his stature up to that antic with the exception of R Kelly and we all know what happened there. As for drugs cocaine and heroin are both pain killers the difference between them and prescribed drugs is one is legal and the others aren't, the abuse of prescribed drugs and the cocktail that he was taking had the same outcome as the abuse of cocaine or heroin and led to his death. As he was abusing drugs it was probably the reason why he had such poor judgement, but again if a an average Joe held their child out of an 8 storey window just to get his picture in the paper, social services would be involved and it would be deemed as abuse of a child, if they then found out he slept in the same bed as other kids and was addicted to prescribed drugs I a, certain that they would deem his children to be at risk. That's the reality, it does not mean MJ 's music is less great, it means that at best as a person he had v poor judgement. He may have been the king of Pop but sadly for the important things in life he was more like a pauper.


not being funny on the scheme of things that is a lot less worse than dangling your baby out of a hotel window in the UK that would be deemed as abuse of a child.




This was a very stupid move from MJ's part. He did a very big mistake like those fathers who throw their babies in the air and cauch them or those parents in India who throw their babies from the roof of their house because a tradition or like that Crocodile man who put his baby on the mouth of a crocodile. People do very stupid things some times. I have done many stupid things, i bet you have too. But in my case and in yours there is not someone who is costantly reminding us of that mistake. So we are furtunate about that.




Look Michael was great but he was a drug addict



Actually he was an addict to pain killers.You know, when the pain is so unberable that you would do anything to stop it. But anyway. There are other artists who are also drug addicts, i mean Real drug - cocain, crack, heroin- addicts. That doesn't take something away from them. Am sure that there must be artist that you like who are crack heads.





and did sleep in a bed with minors deal with it,




Yes, he did. Sleeping with someone though doesn't mean f*cking him. Those kinds and parents wanted to be in his room, Jackson let them. He was a Super Star and people wanted to see how he lived, where he slept etc. Just like people want to see Elvis Presley's house. None of those kids said that Jackson did something to them. Only two parent accused Jackon of innapropriate behaviour and instead of going emediately to the police, they were asking money from him.




there is no conspiracy,what would be the benefit,



Unfortunatelly, yes it seems that there is. Money is the word.





now turn up Billie Jean and moonwalk to your hearts content




Yes, i might do that exept from the moonwalk thing. I never learned how to do that ish.

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Reply #560 posted 07/02/11 5:12pm

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Reply #562 posted 07/02/11 6:44pm

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I have this footage on VHS! Great footage. cool

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Reply #563 posted 07/02/11 7:13pm

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sigers1 said:

dag said:

Too hot.

Too Hot is what Jordie Chandler said to MJ can u turn off the electric blanket

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Reply #564 posted 07/02/11 8:33pm

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You guys are handling this Sigers dude all wrong.

You should've just linked him to the craziest fan forum, and let him go join and post this shit over there and get verbally disemboweled. lol

"I don't think you'd do well in captivity." - random person's comment to me the other day
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Reply #565 posted 07/02/11 8:56pm

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silverchild said:

scorp84 said:

I have this footage on VHS! Great footage. cool

Remember when fans were trading on VHS? Those were the days lol

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Reply #566 posted 07/02/11 11:47pm

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mjforever said:

Too hot.

Hot like fire and sexy as hell!!

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Reply #567 posted 07/03/11 12:33am

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Reply #568 posted 07/03/11 12:41am

sigers1

EmeraldSkies said:



sigers1 said:


dag said:


Too hot.



Too Hot is what Jordie Chandler said to MJ can u turn off the electric blanket


finger



Well it is the truth
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Reply #569 posted 07/03/11 12:49am

sigers1

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You guys are handling this Sigers dude all wrong.



You should've just linked him to the craziest fan forum, and let him go join and post this shit over there and get verbally disemboweled. lol


Hi ite not shit. He did sleep in the same bed as kids, he did abuse drugs and he did mistreat his child by dangling out of a window, that is the truth. MJ fans should not throw mud or questions the honesty of others when his own life and honesty should be put into question
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