alphastreet said:

Aaron needs some Jesus Juice

Aaron needs a swift kick in the ass.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

More evidence "OK" mag lied.

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/60677956.html

Am I the only one kinda freaked out by his Billie Jean pose?

Yeah, he looks like an idiot in that picture.

Anyway, how is it possible for magazines to publish such lies without punishment?

I'm watching a music documentary on the 90s and a pet peeve has reared it's head again.

When people talk of the early 90s and the emergence of grunge - they always point to Nirvana knocking off Dangerous from number 1. And whilst not to take anything away from Nevermind - which is a fantastic album things need to be put in perspective.

When Nevermind "knocked" Dangerous off the number 1 spot, Dangerous had spent the previous 4 weeks at number 1. Also Nevermind was number 1 for a week then got knocked off that spot by Garth Brooks.

So yes Nevermind was influential in its reach and launched a short lived new style of music in grunge, but everything has to be put in perspective.

Swa said:

I'm watching a music documentary on the 90s and a pet peeve has reared it's head again.

When people talk of the early 90s and the emergence of grunge - they always point to Nirvana knocking off Dangerous from number 1. And whilst not to take anything away from Nevermind - which is a fantastic album things need to be put in perspective.

When Nevermind "knocked" Dangerous off the number 1 spot, Dangerous had spent the previous 4 weeks at number 1. Also Nevermind was number 1 for a week then got knocked off that spot by Garth Brooks.

So yes Nevermind was influential in its reach and launched a short lived new style of music in grunge, but everything has to be put in perspective.

Media will always find a way to belittle Mike and his achievements in any way.

dag said:

Swa said:

I'm watching a music documentary on the 90s and a pet peeve has reared it's head again.

When people talk of the early 90s and the emergence of grunge - they always point to Nirvana knocking off Dangerous from number 1. And whilst not to take anything away from Nevermind - which is a fantastic album things need to be put in perspective.

When Nevermind "knocked" Dangerous off the number 1 spot, Dangerous had spent the previous 4 weeks at number 1. Also Nevermind was number 1 for a week then got knocked off that spot by Garth Brooks.

So yes Nevermind was influential in its reach and launched a short lived new style of music in grunge, but everything has to be put in perspective.

Media will always find a way to belittle Mike and his achievements in any way.

I don't see it as belittling MJ but they use that moment as the turning point of music - the birth of grunge. And yes it was monumental - but they fail to point out it had been number 1 for 4 weeks prior so something was bound to replace it.

Do they then laud Garth Brooks for knocking off Nirvana? lol.

[Edited 7/1/11 3:41am]

Swa said:

I don't see it as belittling MJ but they use that moment as the turning point of music - the birth of grunge. And yes it was monumental - but they fail to point out it had been number 1 for 4 weeks prior so something was bound to replace it.

Do they then laud Garth Brooks for knocking off Nirvana? lol.

[Edited 7/1/11 3:41am]

I don't know about anywhere else, but Nirvana's knocking off MJ's Dangerous signaled a new era for American culture as rock music was taking back it's 'rightful' place. The 80s were, officially, over and a new era had dawned.

Meh...I can't even be bothered to listen to a lot of that shit anymore. Listening to a lot of 90s rock annoys the hell out of me now.

As for that Aaron Carter OK Magazine issue, like wow. I still think it's suspect for anyone to believe a tabloid mag, but at the same time, as I said before, had that shit actually happened, we would have been heard about it and it would have been used in the 2005 trial against him had the cops had actually been called.

mookie said:

Timmy84 said:

AW HELL! That Daphne Barak bitch. And OK lied. Jesus Christ... burn the tabloids for real. OK! is definitely tabloidish. Again apologies to Aaron for cursing. Why do folks always twist words from someone else?! Fuck it.

No, no still curse Aaron. He could've came out and told what was really in this interview, but he hasn't. For the past 2 weeks on his twitter page, he's been deleting fans and even his own fans questions that ask what the hell is this crap? For him not to clear this up, says it all.

Even CBS News has jumped on this crap.

Exactly! As I watched the video clip of the interview I also noticed that there was no mention of MJ giving him coke and booze when he was 15, so I thought maybe it was said later on in the interview. But if he never even said such a thing then why hasnt he come out and denied it yet? He should've released a statement the second this story hit the news but he hasnt said anything denying these quotes yet which speaks volumes imo.

Swa said:

dag said:

Media will always find a way to belittle Mike and his achievements in any way.

I don't see it as belittling MJ but they use that moment as the turning point of music - the birth of grunge. And yes it was monumental - but they fail to point out it had been number 1 for 4 weeks prior so something was bound to replace it.

Do they then laud Garth Brooks for knocking off Nirvana? lol.

[Edited 7/1/11 3:41am]

Well, did they mention afterwards what album did knock Nirvana's off the first spot? I am not sure. Why do they wanna point it out for Mike? They either wanted to highlights Nirvana's success by pointing out that it replaced MICHAEL JACKSON's album or they wanted to say that Michael Jackson was slowly losing it cause he got replaced by a band that was't that big up till then. Hard to say why they feel the need to always mention it.

OT, but stop helping media spread this crap! spread the love Mike's getting. This is Beautiful!

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dag said:

Well, did they mention afterwards what album did knock Nirvana's off the first spot? I am not sure. Why do they wanna point it out for Mike? They either wanted to highlights Nirvana's success by pointing out that it replaced MICHAEL JACKSON's album or they wanted to say that Michael Jackson was slowly losing it cause he got replaced by a band that was't that big up till then. Hard to say why they feel the need to always mention it.

Because they knocked off MICHAEL JACKSON. No matter what they try to imply, it's still Michael Jackson, king of pop. And here come these nobodies from Seattle with grunge rock. As I said before, it signaled a new era in the American pop music scene...at the time.

Aaron is full of shit . Nick was into drugs and alcohol too, so he could have very much have been influenced by his own brother too. Also he's a spoiled brat who once hung around Miss Lindsey Lohan and he was her boyfriend.

Aaron Carter: I NEVER Sai...Me Coke!!!

8 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Aaron Carter's rep claims the singer NEVER told an entertainment reporter Michael Jackson gave him cocaine and alcohol when he was 15-year-old ... and says the reporter COMPLETELY FABRICATED the story.



The controversy stems from an article that ran in OK! Magazine in Australia, written by international journalist Daphne Barak. In the article, Carter was quoted as saying, "Yes, [MJ] gave me wine. I mean, I could have refused, but I was 15. As for drugs? He gave me cocaine."

But Carter's rep tells TMZ, "Nothing was said that was reported" ... and directed us toward a YouTube video of the interview with Barak ... which seems to back up Aaron's side of the story.

We've reached out to Barak for comment -- so far, no response.

http://youtu.be/5RSo_Du086s

[Edited 7/1/11 12:10pm]

The estate better sue some folks over this. This is seriously messed up.

NaughtyKitty said:

Aaron Carter: I NEVER Sai...Me Coke!!!

8 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Aaron Carter's rep claims the singer NEVER told an entertainment reporter Michael Jackson gave him cocaine and alcohol when he was 15-year-old ... and says the reporter COMPLETELY FABRICATED the story.



The controversy stems from an article that ran in OK! Magazine in Australia, written by international journalist Daphne Barak. In the article, Carter was quoted as saying, "Yes, [MJ] gave me wine. I mean, I could have refused, but I was 15. As for drugs? He gave me cocaine."

But Carter's rep tells TMZ, "Nothing was said that was reported" ... and directed us toward a YouTube video of the interview with Barak ... which seems to back up Aaron's side of the story.

We've reached out to Barak for comment -- so far, no response.

http://youtu.be/5RSo_Du086s

[Edited 7/1/11 12:10pm]

so he waits and finally says something?! It's been spread all over the place now. He needs to say this to a major publication

Does anyone know where that footage at 0:32 is from? He's sitting in some chair.

^ You're calling peeps here crazy? Read your sentence again. No offence, but you sound like an idiot.

NaughtyKitty said:

Aaron Carter: I NEVER Sai...Me Coke!!!

8 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

Aaron Carter's rep claims the singer NEVER told an entertainment reporter Michael Jackson gave him cocaine and alcohol when he was 15-year-old ... and says the reporter COMPLETELY FABRICATED the story.



The controversy stems from an article that ran in OK! Magazine in Australia, written by international journalist Daphne Barak. In the article, Carter was quoted as saying, "Yes, [MJ] gave me wine. I mean, I could have refused, but I was 15. As for drugs? He gave me cocaine."

But Carter's rep tells TMZ, "Nothing was said that was reported" ... and directed us toward a YouTube video of the interview with Barak ... which seems to back up Aaron's side of the story.

We've reached out to Barak for comment -- so far, no response.

http://youtu.be/5RSo_Du086s

[Edited 7/1/11 12:10pm]

What an ugly soul .....

God please Give us Michael back, we will give you aaron talentless carter!

Asymphony5 said:

http://www.vibe.com/posts/tricky-stewart-speaks-his-michael-jackson-experience

Tricky Stewart Speaks On His Michael Jackson Experience

"I met Michael years and years ago in the early 90s like 1993. And one day he was working at a tudio and he was about to block the studio for a couiple weeks. I was running over and he and teddy riley were trying to kick me out bc I was working all night. At that time he would have a bunch of video games to create the vibe and he caught me playing one of his pacman games and he was like you know youre playing my game right? laughs. There’s no mistaking that voice. I turn around and there he was. he was just kidding though, real cool. it was just amazing to be in his presence, it was a dream come true. Everyone who’s ever done music has wanted to do something with Michael Jackson. I believe he was the numnber one call in all of music for pretty much all of his career.

it was quick. I was just in awe. He might have said other things, but at that point you don’t hear much (laughs). You’ll never know you’ll react until he’s right behind. I thought I was cool around every star, but there’s the ones that still shake you up.

I worked on three songs for MJ, one of them which definietyely made it and two for other projects. The song is called Keep Your Head Up

We were planning on getting together at some point before, my camp and his camp. And it looked like were going to work together, but we never got to actually get in the studio. But the label contacted me about producing some previously recorded records that he was working on 2007. When I got the opp I said oh I could do something w that one and that one. I got the opp to work on this keep your head up record and it turned out to be pretty great. It’s just him doing him. He produced it and wrote it.

The idea… the way I try to do it… although I do have a sound. There’s no other umbrella, there’s no other single ladies. I believe every artist has a sound and clearly mj has one of the most indetifiable musical sounds out there. It wasn’t about me putting my sound on it, it was about making his sound the best it could be. I put a lot of effot to make sure these records felt like MJ. It was a tremendous amount of pressure to live up to his body of wrk. I was doing the best I could do, just trying to do what he would want me to do. A lot of times it felt like he was in there with me just working on the record.

I didn’t veer off what he did. There is no banging 808s because that’s not what he was known for.

The expectation was there, so there was a bit more pressure that I put on myself. Because im trying to live up to the greatest producer and some of the greatest producer. I want my place in history however it pertains to miachel Jackson that there was a certain level of integrity and creatibity put into the records.

These were works he was working on that he didn’t get the opportunity to finish. Its not me reworking a Michael Jackson, im basically filling in what he didn’t get into. I didn’t go in and create a whole entire track to a Michael Jackson vocal.

I can’t speak for anything other than what I know. The songs I worked on definitely have a really good vibe. They’re well-written, well-produced. They sound like genuine Michael Jackson records.

its got the little verse with the big chorus and the choir that comes in at the end. And he got the chance to get the choir already.

the best part of the experience is about the legacy and the lineage of what it means to have it in my discography. To work in any capacity with the greatest entertainer of all time was a huge moment for me. there’s noone more that I wanted to produce for than Michael Jackson.

One of them I worked on real heavy. A song called Slve to the Rhythem. LA and babyface wrote the record. By me having so much familiarity on their music it was lots of fun to beat those guys up. I really wanted to destroy the production on their own record laughs. So that was fun and when I played it for them they were blown away.

Everything is subject to opinion. I personally believe, given the opp to work on a mj project, I was def going to do it. I think at the end of the day, theres something to be said about the mysteriousness of his work being there. But theres something about your music being able to live on till the end of time. we’re celebrating the beatles pretty heavily right now and right before Christmas. Michael Jackson to some people wont be remembered after a certain point. It’s great to always be celebrating the greatness of people. Michael Jackson is a national treasure. He was big for our country. I think it’s the right thing to do to let people live on. I understand the case for both sides, but I knew I could keep the integrity of his music. "

sigers1 said:

Asymphony5 said:

^ You're calling peeps here crazy? Read your sentence again. No offence, but you sound like an idiot.

what bit is idiotic dangling your own baby child out of a hotel window many floors up? Or sharing a bed with children who were not family? Be more specific Asymphony5

It's just sad that these are the only things you want to point out regarding someone who did so much, especially since some of the things are unfounded.

bboy87 said:

http://www.vibe.com/posts/tricky-stewart-speaks-his-michael-jackson-experience

Tricky Stewart Speaks On His Michael Jackson Experience

"I met Michael years and years ago in the early 90s like 1993. And one day he was working at a tudio and he was about to block the studio for a couiple weeks. I was running over and he and teddy riley were trying to kick me out bc I was working all night. At that time he would have a bunch of video games to create the vibe and he caught me playing one of his pacman games and he was like you know youre playing my game right? laughs. There’s no mistaking that voice. I turn around and there he was. he was just kidding though, real cool. it was just amazing to be in his presence, it was a dream come true. Everyone who’s ever done music has wanted to do something with Michael Jackson. I believe he was the numnber one call in all of music for pretty much all of his career.

it was quick. I was just in awe. He might have said other things, but at that point you don’t hear much (laughs). You’ll never know you’ll react until he’s right behind. I thought I was cool around every star, but there’s the ones that still shake you up.

I worked on three songs for MJ, one of them which definietyely made it and two for other projects. The song is called Keep Your Head Up

We were planning on getting together at some point before, my camp and his camp. And it looked like were going to work together, but we never got to actually get in the studio. But the label contacted me about producing some previously recorded records that he was working on 2007. When I got the opp I said oh I could do something w that one and that one. I got the opp to work on this keep your head up record and it turned out to be pretty great. It’s just him doing him. He produced it and wrote it.

The idea… the way I try to do it… although I do have a sound. There’s no other umbrella, there’s no other single ladies. I believe every artist has a sound and clearly mj has one of the most indetifiable musical sounds out there. It wasn’t about me putting my sound on it, it was about making his sound the best it could be. I put a lot of effot to make sure these records felt like MJ. It was a tremendous amount of pressure to live up to his body of wrk. I was doing the best I could do, just trying to do what he would want me to do. A lot of times it felt like he was in there with me just working on the record.

I didn’t veer off what he did. There is no banging 808s because that’s not what he was known for.

The expectation was there, so there was a bit more pressure that I put on myself. Because im trying to live up to the greatest producer and some of the greatest producer. I want my place in history however it pertains to miachel Jackson that there was a certain level of integrity and creatibity put into the records.

These were works he was working on that he didn’t get the opportunity to finish. Its not me reworking a Michael Jackson, im basically filling in what he didn’t get into. I didn’t go in and create a whole entire track to a Michael Jackson vocal.

I can’t speak for anything other than what I know. The songs I worked on definitely have a really good vibe. They’re well-written, well-produced. They sound like genuine Michael Jackson records.

its got the little verse with the big chorus and the choir that comes in at the end. And he got the chance to get the choir already.

the best part of the experience is about the legacy and the lineage of what it means to have it in my discography. To work in any capacity with the greatest entertainer of all time was a huge moment for me. there’s noone more that I wanted to produce for than Michael Jackson.

One of them I worked on real heavy. A song called Slve to the Rhythem. LA and babyface wrote the record. By me having so much familiarity on their music it was lots of fun to beat those guys up. I really wanted to destroy the production on their own record laughs. So that was fun and when I played it for them they were blown away.

Everything is subject to opinion. I personally believe, given the opp to work on a mj project, I was def going to do it. I think at the end of the day, theres something to be said about the mysteriousness of his work being there. But theres something about your music being able to live on till the end of time. we’re celebrating the beatles pretty heavily right now and right before Christmas. Michael Jackson to some people wont be remembered after a certain point. It’s great to always be celebrating the greatness of people. Michael Jackson is a national treasure. He was big for our country. I think it’s the right thing to do to let people live on. I understand the case for both sides, but I knew I could keep the integrity of his music. "

So basically, he says that he worked on Keep your head up, but actually has never seen Mike working on it.

dag said:

sigers1 said:

Asymphony5 said: what bit is idiotic dangling your own baby child out of a hotel window many floors up? Or sharing a bed with children who were not family? Be more specific Asymphony5

It's just sad that these are the only things you want to point out regarding someone who did so much, especially since some of the things are unfounded.

dag said:

Michael's not here to defend himself and Aaron said that the story isn't true

how about we all leave it at that?

bboy87 said:

Michael's not here to defend himself and Aaron said that the story isn't true

how about we all leave it at that?

sigers1 said:

sigers1 said:

This forum is crazy, Mike made some good tunes but why would u be surprised if he did actually give a child some coke not being funny on the scheme of things that is a lot less worse than dangling your baby out of a hotel window in the UK that would be deemed as abuse of a child. Look Michael was great but he was a drug addict and did sleep in a bed with minors deal with it, there is no conspiracy,what would be the benefit, now turn up Billie Jean and moonwalk to your hearts content

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Unholyalliance said: